​do you let yours out?

You would then be charged for the bullet holes when you hand it back.

Great deal!

Not as fast as you playing dueling Banjos.

​There was a recent offer where you 'just add fuel' so insurance/road tax/service etc was included.

So it was a legitimate question.

redadmiral posted this as a Lease Deal it is still there at the top of the page so all your arguments are defunct and irrelevant. Just because I have the time to follow the deal thread does not make me wrong and anybody that thinks it does needs to think again.

I'd ignore them. They have no idea what they're on about when it comes to leasing. The fact that he thinks a PCP is a lease deal is laughable, so if they're incorrect on that front then they're more thank likely incorrect on other points.

This deal has always been advertised as a personal contract hire, which in essence is a personal lease. The link has always been the same and it certainly doesn't take you to a different deal.

Fleet Prices have misadvertised this as a business contract hire.

Maybe next time you try to make somebody feel stupid you'll click the actual link first and actually see what the deal is. You must have a lot of time on your hands to read 6 pages of comments on a deal you're not interested in

expired because of this.

The header on this page definitely state Lease Deal which is for business people only that have a VAT account or have an arrangement with their employer as a company car, as xerocs posted earlier. PCP is where a private individual leases a car and pays VAT on the deal whereas on a lease deal the VAT can be reclaimed.
Unfortunately when you click on get the deal it directs you to a completely different deal to this, I had not previously clicked on that as I was not interested only the comments that go along with this sort of deal.

I dont understand the difference either. Care to enlighten me?

As per the description on the link - "Personal Contract Hire, sometimes referred to as an Operating Lease, is a long term rental agreement. Contracts typically range from 12 to 60 months and are tailored to the personal user."

It clearly stated Personal Contact Hire on their website. I did actually look up what this meant as I am new to this!!! This is what I found on practically every explanation....
A GUIDE TO PERSONAL CONTRACT HIRE
Personal Contract Hire (PCH) involves leasing a car for an agreed period of time at a fixed monthly cost. For private individuals that means cost-effective, flexible motoring which is cheaper than buying a car. If you're only looking for short term car hire we're able to help with that too.

All servicing and maintenance can be provided – giving you peace-of-mind that everything is running smoothly with no unpredictable costs. At the end of your term, you can simply return your vehicle or replace it with another one. The vehicle should be returned to the leasing company in a condition that meets the BVRLA ‘Fair wear and tear’ guidelines, otherwise charges may be incurred.

So come on then, as you clearly know what you're talking about, explain the difference for all us dim wits!!!

So, needs to be expired then.

After enquiringly about this deal it turns out it's not actually a personal contract hire, they can only honour those prices for businesses. They provided a quote for a personal lease and it was substantially more and for 3 years not 2. Seems they are misrepresenting the deal.

How irritating.

Fortunately, they don't have my details such: I gave a false telephone number and I operate a single-use e-mail address system. So... all they have is [email protected] - which I will now disable :wink:

Can anybody explain the (what I believe to be bizarre) qualification on this offer that has been communicated to me via e-mail? I was told, after making enquiries on this deal, that I would need to provide a letter from my employer explaining I receive a mileage allowance, a pay slip showing mileage allowance, or proof of self-employment/directorship. After asking why they needed such documents for a car obtained on a personal hire basis, I was told this was simply a requirement of the deal.

Sounds nonsense to me?

Eh?

A 2 year lease the same as this.

Cows release about 100kg of methane a year, equal to 2.3t of carbon dioxide in potency.
So buy a C1, and kill 3 cows and you've reduced your carbon footprint.

Well I'm glad you got that off your chest and to be perfectly honest I could not give a damn about carbon footprint, bring on loads of new cars I say and keep innovating manufacturers, I can't wait for the new models you are bringing out.

And when our future generations are living in squalor and and famine, Just remember that 'Independence' you all blindly bought into, Its an inconvenient truth, and i know i am weird i seem to be the only one who cares that a new car creates more of a carbon footprint, in its 'creation' than it ever does in its daily use driven on the road!, Thats what you dont get, New cars are even worse for the environment, would have been better to re-engineer all the old ones rather than melt down and re-make weakening the metal anyway and freshly pumping out all that co2 again!!.

The carbon footprint of making a car is immensely complex. Ores have to be dug out of the ground and the metals extracted. These have to be turned into parts. Other components have to be brought together: rubber tyres, plastic dashboards, paint, and so on. All of this involves transporting things around the world. The whole lot then has to be assembled, and every stage in the process requires energy. The companies that make cars have offices and other infrastructure with their own carbon footprints, which we need to somehow allocate proportionately to the cars that are made.

In other words, even more than with most items, the manufacture of a car causes ripples that extend throughout the economy.

The carbon footprint of a new car:
6 tonnes CO2e: Citroen C1, basic spec
17 tonnes CO2e: Ford Mondeo, medium spec
35 tonnes CO2e: Land Rover Discovery, top of the range

The government scrappage scheme to get all the old cars off the road (Most of them perfectly fine, all the parts are interchangeable! almost any car can be fixed), was actually 'tax payers' money being just given away towards a new generation of car production and co2 emissions so in other words the government paid for most of that pollution to go up onto the atmosphere on the big car company's behalf!

And now here you all are a decade later brainwashed sheep obediently buying into the plan, signing your contracts, all buying cars that you don't ever even 'own' anymore, Madness! and im weird you say?

Btw here is a handy Car carbon footprint calculator try to get a low footprint one like the one in this deal! ;-)


^^^^ME^^^^^ :stuck_out_tongue:

No interest in the deal, but what an entertaining read! :smile:

Thanks crazyal, it just made my blood boil! Just done the quote again and got it down to £1400 by adding myself as the experienced driver (thanks spamcan61), but I am thinking that maybe a used car might be better, well better for my blood pressure anyway

Lol, 'poverty spec'. Hope you enjoyed subsidising all those who went without heated seats / no need to twiddle a dial to make it cold / headlights that annoy other drives / whatever else you got :smiley: Base specs have gotten pretty good nowadays.

Personally, I'd rather eat my own ear off than pay anywhere near £18 grand for a French car, the only plus point is the concrete residuals - as in, they drop like they are made of concrete :smile: And the only reason I'm driving a 4 year old renault megane diesel estate I paid £4500 for!

You're right, closest my cursory glance found was £1600 p/a, though I think there were some cheaper last year. This one still represents poor value comparatively imo, both against lease deals for more valuable cars and DEFINITELY against making a smart second hand choice, which is the best option.

You shouldn't have replied to his trolling comments pinkspider32, they simply are not worth it. Your daughter sounds like a great kid and I hope she gets sorted with a car real soon, the C1 deal looks pretty good with good fuel economy. Here's me complaining to the wife the other day that my Focus ST3 insurance is £335!

Agree that it's very difficult to get such a car at such a price. Only way to get (remotely) close would be to lower the mileage to 5k pa.

You are an idiot - you know nothing about his daughter and their situation so just spout off your ill-informed and misguided assumptions. I hate people like you on the Internet. Another one for the ignore list.

I have a cactus, and no, you can't get the top range £18k rrp model I have for £1300 a year.

In fact, none of the cactus deals you refer to cost £1300 a year, even the poverty spec ones

Well, keeping it close to home, all those C4 Cactus deals for a start?

http://www.hotukdeals.com/search?action=search&keywords=cactus

I wouldn't want one, but there were quite a few good leasing deals on it over the last year around the same outlay, and it's a class up - hell, 3 classes up according to Citroen themselves :smiley:

Though, as you bring it up, yes, anyone who really cares about a good deal would get second hand car, but it doesn't need to be that old. Newest I've bought was a 10 month old 7000 mile skoda octavia for £10k back in 2008. Still going strong on 100k miles (though not in my hands anymore) and still worth £4k, do the maths on that as a yearly outlay (maintenance costs about £1900 total in that time inc cambelt, 4 brake disks and pads, and 5 dealer services)

Yes, save you time so you can sit in front of a screen watching TV or playing games.:smirk:

This seems to have attracted too many hot votes!

£1300 a year wouldn't be that bad if it was a medium priced £12-18k car, but this really is not - it's a basic small engined city car that's only £8500 to buy outright.

I'd spend the extra £300 and get the 1.2 flair, much better engine and spec.
http://www.fleetprices.co.uk/personal-lease-cars/citroen/c1-hatchback/c1-hatchback-12-puretech-flair-5dr-58715782

I got this from my local dealer for £99 deposit and £99 a month with 5k miles, £104 a month and £104 deposit with £8k. Worth asking your dealer.

If you are in management how come you don't know how to Google?

Idiot.

Anyone got any tips for decent insurance deal on this car, I'd like to get one for my daughter when she passes her test as it's cheaper than how much I have to for her school bus every month, but when I went on go compare for this car the cheapest insurance was £1550 with £450 excess ughhhh help please

WELL SAID LOVE

How very ignorant......do you realise that kids these days have to stay in education until they are 18, so whilst my daughter does work, she has 2 part time jobs that she alternates between throughout the month, she in no way can afford to buy herself a car although she has down very well recently and has saved up over £1000.00! Added to this I work away from home during the week and my husband has MS, so she will actually be making a difference to us, by being able to drive! Not sure why I find myself justfing myself and MY decision to help her with a car to you ......but it's probably because your judgemental attitude has made me quite angy.....I only asked for some advice not attitude

haha, what you on about. hahahaha

too many restrictions and regulations. risky to buy

What a weird person you are. The biggest things cars save is time. It is not about laziness. If need some shopping done from three or more different places it would literally take me all day on foot or several hours by bus. With a car I can nip into each location and be home within the hour spending time with my family rather than trudging about in all weathers.

350 miles from £30?


Have the c1 1.2 flair vtech 82 Manual i get around 270 mainly motorway driving from a full tank £32-34


quote=ollie2001]I've got the 1.2 flair with soft top roof. Got it for £146/month with 3 months up front and 10k per year.
Had it a year now and must say its been a pleasure. I'd say the 1.2 is nippier enough to put a small smile on your face, I'm sure I'd get a bit frustrated with the 1.0.
I get about 350 miles out of £30 so not that bad considering I do rag it a fair bit!
Also, not for super tall people! I'm 6'3" and have to have the seat all the way back and lowered all the way, so someone can't sit behind me.[/quote]

Being a male, thent he only Size 10 relevant would be shoes, and that's spot on.

Surely a annual bus pass is cheaper than this deal. And no need to worry about insurance.

not everybody eats American size portions andiejn, bet your not a size 10

sure... on the open road with the wind behind you. very cheap car to run.

I was only messing around, did you not notice the smiley? Seriously though, I wouldn't bother going for a convertible with that kind of budget, better off getting a 'proper' £200 worth of car, rather than some kind of skip.

Would you if you got a C1 to run around in?

Nice, it will do for the missus to fetch the shopping home in.

do these things include insurance?

sorry i'm probably being thick but why wouldn't you just go to a citroen dealer for a lease?

​McDonald's have managers too.

Well it is a 40min drive to work or 4 buses and 22min walk. 2hrs 29min. I'd have to get the first bus at 5.10am and would not get home until until 8pm. This is £12.40 per day. I could save a bit of time and go 3 buses and the train but the cost is twice as much. So adding between 50%-70% onto my day.

Besides if I wanted to save all my money I would cycle the 33 miles each way to work as it would be quicker than public transport. But cycling is dangerous, I've only been knocked off once, sadly it was by a bus.

I'm in management, but have you seen management roles lately? Subway to be a store manager 17,000. I am on more then that but don't want to be giving one week's wage packet to hiring my car when next to that I have to maintain it at that price. Therefore I've been debating if to finance a convertible or bank loan and buy it...thus why I have asked if there is any good convertible deals out..I'm looking to spend maximum 200 a month and the best I have seen is citroen dso3

Look, you're either 'in management', and therefore should be able to spend £350 a month on a car and pay the associated fuel/mileage costs, or you're not and you can't - which is it? :wink:

£516, 4 weekly x 12 here. Rather buy my car outright, pay year insurance and have fuel for a month, throw double the £43 a month at fuel and maintenance fund account, think englanders forget the temp the further north you go gets colder at nights and winter outside summer, we dont all have tube, tram or bus stops/stations with heat! For some its a safety issue, for some health conditions, for others its a means to work.

Had Maggie not given permission to sell local authority buses off, I have two local bus companies (owned big 2 big companoes)and the service is terrible, upto 3 buses to go two miles east a mile and north to the edge of the city, only £6-10 return (£1.50 short hop) or a £3.70 day ticket...(and thats the cheaper of the two) either way 3 miles way = £1.20+ per mile! I can claim mileage allowance much more than 50% cheaper from Her Maj Revenues and Custom than the bus for a 10 minute trip which with bus connections can take upto and over 2 hours, more on a Sat or upto 2 and a half hours + on a Sunday!!

Sure petrol and insurance cost more than a daily £3.70 day ticket, but claim 45p a mile back from work and well your quids in, no buses, cold, waiting, connections or missed connections because one bus was late.

Our carbon footprint could be reduced easy, if public transport was public run...outside London who in the UK has great city wide one ticket transport ?

This is a great deal, for me 1.2 is a minimum for motorway use. Even considering a Dacia in summer and buying few thousand miles ex demo at reduced cost, because thats much cheaper in fuel than the £17 day return to go to the next major city... 25p per mile!!

Do you have the option to buy at the end? Confused

The kind of people that are so lazy they won't walk anywhere more than a 1/4 of a mile, and probably would never go anywhere if cars ceased to exist one day, getting on a bus, train walking to somewhere are all to much like hard work, and not their idea of independence!.

thanks mate..any convertible in general on finance am after really :smiley:..

Best I can see for the Airscape 1.2 feel version is 3+23. Initial payment £315.39 plus £105.13 per month. £120 administration fee. 10k mileage. £2853.38 (£118.89P/M). From lease not buy Ltd.

I have seen loads of lease deals on HUKD.
How do you go on when you hand the car back with regards to little scratches and dints that you get from ignorant supermarket shoppers banging your car?

No, they are right. The discepancy is due to the initial payment not being exactly 9 x the monthly payment. I also make it £2639.58 over the term. Monthly equivalent of £109.98, or £25.38 per week.

Hey everyone was it this car or another that had a lease deal of upfront 1000-1200 and then 30 a month or something? I couldn't remember. My car got written off by halfords and i took them to the small claims court and won. Need to sell my temporary car and the old one now, but been debating it to get one on finance or not..ideally I wanted a convertible and something nice if I was going to end up committing to a 24 month financ deal on one, I had a look with a few of the lease companies on here but convertibles are 350 a month minimum...:disappointed: anyone know any good lease sites ? Do you have to have very good credit to lease? I travel 60 miles a day to work and do a lot of traveling as I am in management so the mileage is a issue for me

The C1 is a fantastic budget car. Perfect for tootling about in. But if you do a lot of motorway driving give it a miss (unless you don't mind compromising to save some cash)

Too much science there!
Fuel goes off after about a year - but most people drive the car and use it up so that isn't a problem.

1.0 ... Might struggle up hills then... :smile:

Haha I know a guy that does smart repairs

You calc is broken. Initial charge is xxx.08 and later payments are ending.x0 so it has to be 8 at the end mate.

how fast does it go?

I've got the 1.2 flair with soft top roof. Got it for £146/month with 3 months up front and 10k per year.

Had it a year now and must say its been a pleasure. I'd say the 1.2 is nippier enough to put a small smile on your face, I'm sure I'd get a bit frustrated with the 1.0.

I get about 350 miles out of £30 so not that bad considering I do rag it a fair bit!

Also, not for super tall people! I'm 6'3" and have to have the seat all the way back and lowered all the way, so someone can't sit behind me.

Been looking at these but worried the boot looks small in photos. How is the boot for day to day life? Does it fit a weekly shop?

Not if he missed or hadn't loaded the gun or was using a figure of speech. :smiley:

Great deal.

Very good. I would pull the trigger on one of these for my missus but she has only had her license for a week. Maybe in six to twelve months when she has a bit more experience driving alone.

Is insurance included :confused:

I've got this car the flair edition, and it's brilliant. Not much room so not a family car but for nipping to work and to the shops with my little on its brilliant. Fits the pram nicely in the boot and lots of room for my little one in the back (but not for adults) £0 road tax, fuel up with £20 and it lasts for ages. Mine is 5 door I think 3 door would be too much of a struggle for anyone trying to get a little on in the back. Reversing camera is brilliant! Great little car

​lol

I've leased the 1 litre flair, great little town/city runaround and is more than comfortable on motorways. Can't go wrong for the price either, brilliant for 1st time drivers.

The Mrs is onto her second lease both been c1, when she handed first back in there was a couple of chips, a tiny mark on seat and a small 5p size mark/dent in car. None were brought up although she had to buy 2 new tyres that were still legal but under what they said they needed to be. They were almost illegal to be fair as they were on for 2 years.

Got the missus the C1 Flair and its a cracking wee town car. If you don't do as much miles as this and can get away with 5,000 a year, I'd recommend the Flair over the Feel. 1.2 litre, alloys, upgraded cabin etc.

you know what I mean

Think it means 'felch my young tight butt' but I'm not so sure now.

​I still have no idea what that means, even when you shout it out

I make it £2639.60, unless my calculator is broke

Price is £2639.58

Looks wrong to me...

initial payment: £692.08
23 monthly p[ayments of £76.90 = £1768.70
Processing fee : £178.80

I make that a grand total of £2639.58 (not £2563.00 indicated in title)

FMYTB

​There was a recent offer where you 'just add fuel' so insurance/road tax/service etc was included.

So it was a legitimate question.

Under £4 a day for a decent town car. Seems amazing value for money.

It does indeed