I expect this'll be cold due to it being an expensive fan but it's cheaper than they normally go for!
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a3lawy
27 Jan 164#30
Those ARE the benefits to some people. That was my point.
The purpose of a watch is to tell the time, which a £5 casio will do relatively reliably. However, there are those that see an old used Rolex for £20,000, think it's a bargain and snap it up. It might be the brand, maybe shape, maybe vintage style, maybe they're indeed just foolish idiots... point being, that's still value for money for them. Their choice. If people want something and willing to pay X for it, that's their value for money threshold.
The purpose a car is to transport people/goods from A to B...............................
scottswaha
26 Jan 163#15
The Dyson Fan-E
Provides air flow by a rapidily rotational element which causes displacement. Clever technology attaches this to something which spins when you switch it on. The patent places this all this within a big plastic 0....
Now for the really clever bit, a big piece of old rope that Dyson charges the foolish $$$$$ for.
XxLJCJxX to terryread1
26 Jan 163#8
Is she not a fan?
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indigowest2004
28 Jan 16#52
I just logged back on to see if i could get any... I managed to get two!!! And its been dispatched... Woop woop!! Ka ching!!!
JamesSmith
27 Jan 16#51
It's more complex than that even.
Whilst the Rolex isn't a great timekeeper the engineering that has gone into making that watch is precision class.
Furthermore, the price can be inflated and deflated.
Rolex are a case in point as they deliberately restrain product volume and through reseller contractual obligation foster exclusivity by restricting sales and discretion is often exercised against those who do not have the right status and profile. The waiting list has been as high as 8 years, and they are picky about who is allowed on the waiting list... That's why some Rolex models fetch more used, than new. For the exact same watch. Value is thus carefully controlled by Rolex themselves, through 'market controls'.
Dyson has a different strategy. They can easily meet demand (and cheaply as they migrated product from England to Malaysia...) Dyson creates value through perceived innovation, and the novel promoted feature(s) is typically visually assimilable - so here it's 'bladeless', the 'bagless' hoover had a transparent housing to remind you, the cyclone feature was explicitly and intentionally formed in the outer casing (where other brands disguise their innards).
The overall effect is, "oh! isn't that clever".
But while some of these technologies have merit, it's tapping into a part of the psyche that is irrational. People awed by this strategy, and/or hypnotised by globs of primary colours, fail to weigh focus more on the things that really matter. Does it work. Is it reliable. Is the price proportional to the work that's gone into making it or am I buying some cheap nasty plastic thing with a novelty feature at 4x it's actual value.
No8
27 Jan 16#50
You are moving the goalposts; "value" and "value for money" are two different things. Just because someone values an item does not make it good value for money.
A Rolex is a poor example, because the right model will appreciate financially and therefore represent a good investment, making it good value for money. I bought my car brand new 17 years ago, and I value it. However, it has no residual value in the marketplace, it's fuel efficiency is poor and it costs a fortune in spares, time and effort to keep roadworthy; although I value it, it does not represent good value for money.
I think we will have to agree to disagree, until you gain a degree in economics. Then we probably will agree.
a3lawy
27 Jan 16#49
This is where you are incorrect. Value is based on what something is "worth" to someone and form over function is certainly a parameter. A Rolex may not be value for money to you (nor me!) but to someone who desires it and willing to pay £X, yes, that's it's worth(value) to them.
reddychvb
27 Jan 16#48
I cancelled my order....
snowee
27 Jan 16#47
This is just for cold air - think I'll just open the window!
Kristang
27 Jan 16#46
I've got the hot and cold version and I can confirm that it is very loud and noisy. Would have gone for this if this comes with the * hot* function.... Unfortunately it won't be very useful for the * cold* only in the UK...
DROiD90
27 Jan 16#45
Yes, back in stock. Just ended up ordering one. Should not have read the post and checked.
hsien
27 Jan 16#44
This is back in stock.....in case anyone is interested...
No8
27 Jan 16#43
Exactly, not that there's anything wrong in that; we all do it to one degree or another.
Sharpharp
27 Jan 16#42
You said - "They'd be like "wtf is that thing"? with the next sentence being "Sucker"...
In all seriousness, I've had multiple dealing with Dyson and their Marketing Department, they try to be slick, but these fans are useless.
For example, the latest Hot/Cold fan, on the packaging it says 5% quieter.... Well if you do your research, it's only 5% quieter than their previous version, which sounds like a Snow-mower in New York right now.
The quality is cheap plastic with a lick of metallic finishes. I sent mine back after 2 days, because of the poor build quality and most of all the NOISE and would never buy one of these again. The only plus for these are that they are children-safe, i.e. no visible moving parts.
But apart from that, these Dyson fans are a joke and have no value, they are constantly available on ebay/argos outlets as refurbs due to their unreliability. If you want to heat a room quietly, go look at the Bionaire range.
JamesSmith
27 Jan 162#33
Dyson claims it's bladeless but contains an impeller in the base which has blades.
Interesting design but it's noisy and overpriced.
Dyson specialises in solving problems where there was none and patenting his solution so only he can build them of very poor quality whilst charging a premium.
Red flags when you buy a vacuum cleaner and the manufacturers website lists dozens of replacement parts all priced up ready to ship when yours breaks down.
At least he came to his senses over the colour schemes remember this monstrosity? My Miele washer looks pretty uninteresting but it doesn't make you vomit and it's 16 years young. Who honestly still uses one of these today? Few as they cost a grand and like most Dyson products were very poor value for money so they aborted making them. Thank god.
AppStar to JamesSmith
27 Jan 16#41
Why all the hate for such a funky looking washing machine? Can you imagine guests popping into your kitchen? They'd be like "wtf is that thing?"
An excellent way to break the ice if you're having trouble finding stuff to talk about.
AppStar
27 Jan 16#40
So it's basically a bit of a status symbol then? Much like the way BMW Mercedes owners feel about their cars.
pnaylor39
27 Jan 16#36
value for money . You've got to question if tesco can afford to discount by half the demand is not very high and there taking a hit on product of profit margin at RRP is so great that even discounting by half their still making a profit. really can anyone really think this is so 30 x better than one at £30. think not people buying because they think it looks cool ( firm over function) . To me functions and value are what drives me to purchase not how it looks
No8 to pnaylor39
27 Jan 16#39
Form over function.
No8
27 Jan 16#38
The Casio is value for money because it is fit for purpose at minimum cost; the Rolex may be of higher quality, and may be much more desirable, but it certainly is not value for money, regardless of the perception of the individual who desires it.
Vanderlust
27 Jan 16#37
Love the design but I don't trust Dyson quality. Plasticky junk in my experience.
If you have cash to throw around you can buy interesting designs of any object but with the appropriate build quality. But most people don't know designers so end up buying whatever's on the high street. Madeindesign might be a good place to start for some. Lots of online stores like this now, loads of fab kit.
Roger_Irrelevant
27 Jan 16#35
James Dyson isn't so much an inventor (what's he invented? A vacuum-cleaner, already been done. A fan? Already been done.) but he is good at creating an 'aura' around his products that means a lot of gullible people will pay a premium for what is a fairly standard product. Albeit a product that has some gimmick which they're made to believe is groundbreaking, but really isn't (cyclone, 'digital motors', 'bladeless fan') and other ****. :stuck_out_tongue:
This year sees the much anticipated Dyson Wheel. Unlike ordinary wheels, the Dyson wheel [insert non-existent problem here and his expensive way of overcoming it..]
kalico
27 Jan 16#34
180 quid... for a fan!
I think I'm not in touch with society these days. You can go on holiday for that.
mxer450
27 Jan 16#32
Thermostat. Windows.........Jeeez
sidmyster
27 Jan 16#31
I've got the AM05... hot/cold version... I think it's great!! Heats the room quickly and evenly. It is loud though. haven't used the cool setting much yet...
a3lawy
27 Jan 164#30
Those ARE the benefits to some people. That was my point.
The purpose of a watch is to tell the time, which a £5 casio will do relatively reliably. However, there are those that see an old used Rolex for £20,000, think it's a bargain and snap it up. It might be the brand, maybe shape, maybe vintage style, maybe they're indeed just foolish idiots... point being, that's still value for money for them. Their choice. If people want something and willing to pay X for it, that's their value for money threshold.
The purpose a car is to transport people/goods from A to B...............................
Joshimitsu91
27 Jan 16#29
In fairness it's not just a fan with a brand name on it, so I don't think people want one because it's expensive. They want one because it's an interesting design. I wouldn't mind one, unfortunately I'm not so well off that I can justify the price, but some people are.
No8
27 Jan 162#28
I think you're confusing value for money with desirability. This fan is an example of the Veblen effect, i.e, people want it because it is expensive; that does not bestow value for money, which is fit for purpose at minimum cost. The purpose of a fan is to move air, which can be achieved for far less than £179!
nbgrobbo
26 Jan 16#1
Over £300 elsewhere. Well spotted!
otterboxer to nbgrobbo
27 Jan 16#27
£290 to much elsewhere.
Sharpharp
27 Jan 161#26
Lower noise? Have you owned one? Unless this is on the lowest setting, then its akin to having a lawnmower on.
indigowest2004
27 Jan 16#25
Tried ordering 5...none in stock...damn it lol
Sonltt
27 Jan 16#24
Sorry, we don't have enough Dyson Desktop Fan AM07 (Iron and Blue) items in stock right now. This item (s) has been added to your save for later basket. You can try to purchase this item again by reducing its quantity.
hafeez42
27 Jan 16#23
I should rate this cold because u made me buy this
pennyfarthing88
27 Jan 16#22
Oh right - many thanks.
Obviously you are an expert of the product - I love your features - any actual benefits?! :confused:
I didn't mention the price - just what were the advantages for all that extra cash? Nice of you to point out the obvious - ' this isn't about price' :laughing:
DealJourno
27 Jan 16#21
If this doesn't go cold, it's going back.
hobknobs
27 Jan 161#20
Still way to expensive..
DonkeyKonk
27 Jan 162#19
If Apple Made Fans.
Marky264
27 Jan 16#18
Always wanted one but can't justify the price! Heat though :smiley:
jamhops
27 Jan 16#17
Tempted... must not order! :neutral_face:
DonkeyKonk
26 Jan 16#14
Good if you have kids or pets running about, no "blades". Its a big unit though.
scottswaha to DonkeyKonk
27 Jan 16#16
But when the proverbial hits the fan there is not as much fun.
scottswaha
26 Jan 163#15
The Dyson Fan-E
Provides air flow by a rapidily rotational element which causes displacement. Clever technology attaches this to something which spins when you switch it on. The patent places this all this within a big plastic 0....
Now for the really clever bit, a big piece of old rope that Dyson charges the foolish $$$$$ for.
declanwhitfield
26 Jan 161#13
1.5% quidco just to add :smiley:
a3lawy
26 Jan 16#12
Lower noise.
No buffeting.
Aesthetics.
These are considered value for money to some people, not always only about cheapest prices.
terryread1
26 Jan 162#11
Should buy it for her really because she's HOT
DonkeyKonk
26 Jan 16#10
mshakil
26 Jan 161#9
It's gonna have to blow me too for that price!!
terryread1
26 Jan 162#7
The **** would hit the fan if my misses found out I bought one
XxLJCJxX to terryread1
26 Jan 163#8
Is she not a fan?
XxLJCJxX
26 Jan 16#6
You wouldn't want **** to hit the fan at this price.. :confused:
terryread1
26 Jan 16#5
This ain't a heater is it
Albert_Tatlock
26 Jan 16#4
It's a fan . . .haha . . i saw what you did there :stuck_out_tongue:
pennyfarthing88
26 Jan 162#3
Wow obviously a good price but what the hell does this do for that extra ( lots of ) that your normal pedestal ( apart from the noise ) fan doesn't do?
I'm obviously out of touch with fans :laughing:
Heat added all the same
Quikfinder
26 Jan 161#2
Can't find it any cheaper than £299.99, great find OP :smile:
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The purpose of a watch is to tell the time, which a £5 casio will do relatively reliably. However, there are those that see an old used Rolex for £20,000, think it's a bargain and snap it up. It might be the brand, maybe shape, maybe vintage style, maybe they're indeed just foolish idiots... point being, that's still value for money for them. Their choice. If people want something and willing to pay X for it, that's their value for money threshold.
The purpose a car is to transport people/goods from A to B...............................
Provides air flow by a rapidily rotational element which causes displacement. Clever technology attaches this to something which spins when you switch it on. The patent places this all this within a big plastic 0....
Now for the really clever bit, a big piece of old rope that Dyson charges the foolish $$$$$ for.
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Whilst the Rolex isn't a great timekeeper the engineering that has gone into making that watch is precision class.
Furthermore, the price can be inflated and deflated.
Rolex are a case in point as they deliberately restrain product volume and through reseller contractual obligation foster exclusivity by restricting sales and discretion is often exercised against those who do not have the right status and profile. The waiting list has been as high as 8 years, and they are picky about who is allowed on the waiting list... That's why some Rolex models fetch more used, than new. For the exact same watch. Value is thus carefully controlled by Rolex themselves, through 'market controls'.
Dyson has a different strategy. They can easily meet demand (and cheaply as they migrated product from England to Malaysia...) Dyson creates value through perceived innovation, and the novel promoted feature(s) is typically visually assimilable - so here it's 'bladeless', the 'bagless' hoover had a transparent housing to remind you, the cyclone feature was explicitly and intentionally formed in the outer casing (where other brands disguise their innards).
The overall effect is, "oh! isn't that clever".
But while some of these technologies have merit, it's tapping into a part of the psyche that is irrational. People awed by this strategy, and/or hypnotised by globs of primary colours, fail to weigh focus more on the things that really matter. Does it work. Is it reliable. Is the price proportional to the work that's gone into making it or am I buying some cheap nasty plastic thing with a novelty feature at 4x it's actual value.
A Rolex is a poor example, because the right model will appreciate financially and therefore represent a good investment, making it good value for money. I bought my car brand new 17 years ago, and I value it. However, it has no residual value in the marketplace, it's fuel efficiency is poor and it costs a fortune in spares, time and effort to keep roadworthy; although I value it, it does not represent good value for money.
I think we will have to agree to disagree, until you gain a degree in economics. Then we probably will agree.
In all seriousness, I've had multiple dealing with Dyson and their Marketing Department, they try to be slick, but these fans are useless.
For example, the latest Hot/Cold fan, on the packaging it says 5% quieter.... Well if you do your research, it's only 5% quieter than their previous version, which sounds like a Snow-mower in New York right now.
The quality is cheap plastic with a lick of metallic finishes. I sent mine back after 2 days, because of the poor build quality and most of all the NOISE and would never buy one of these again. The only plus for these are that they are children-safe, i.e. no visible moving parts.
But apart from that, these Dyson fans are a joke and have no value, they are constantly available on ebay/argos outlets as refurbs due to their unreliability. If you want to heat a room quietly, go look at the Bionaire range.
Interesting design but it's noisy and overpriced.
Dyson specialises in solving problems where there was none and patenting his solution so only he can build them of very poor quality whilst charging a premium.
Red flags when you buy a vacuum cleaner and the manufacturers website lists dozens of replacement parts all priced up ready to ship when yours breaks down.
At least he came to his senses over the colour schemes remember this monstrosity? My Miele washer looks pretty uninteresting but it doesn't make you vomit and it's 16 years young. Who honestly still uses one of these today? Few as they cost a grand and like most Dyson products were very poor value for money so they aborted making them. Thank god.
An excellent way to break the ice if you're having trouble finding stuff to talk about.
If you have cash to throw around you can buy interesting designs of any object but with the appropriate build quality. But most people don't know designers so end up buying whatever's on the high street. Madeindesign might be a good place to start for some. Lots of online stores like this now, loads of fab kit.
This year sees the much anticipated Dyson Wheel. Unlike ordinary wheels, the Dyson wheel [insert non-existent problem here and his expensive way of overcoming it..]
I think I'm not in touch with society these days. You can go on holiday for that.
The purpose of a watch is to tell the time, which a £5 casio will do relatively reliably. However, there are those that see an old used Rolex for £20,000, think it's a bargain and snap it up. It might be the brand, maybe shape, maybe vintage style, maybe they're indeed just foolish idiots... point being, that's still value for money for them. Their choice. If people want something and willing to pay X for it, that's their value for money threshold.
The purpose a car is to transport people/goods from A to B...............................
Obviously you are an expert of the product - I love your features - any actual benefits?! :confused:
I didn't mention the price - just what were the advantages for all that extra cash? Nice of you to point out the obvious - ' this isn't about price' :laughing:
Provides air flow by a rapidily rotational element which causes displacement. Clever technology attaches this to something which spins when you switch it on. The patent places this all this within a big plastic 0....
Now for the really clever bit, a big piece of old rope that Dyson charges the foolish $$$$$ for.
No buffeting.
Aesthetics.
These are considered value for money to some people, not always only about cheapest prices.
I'm obviously out of touch with fans :laughing:
Heat added all the same