Was to be part of a modular PC system - where you could upgrade your PC without having to open up the case & poke about with screwdrivers. To upgrade the HDD you were meant to buy the relevant module. Acer now seems to have given up on the whole idea.
npinn001
7 Mar 16#48
So whats the verdict, is this a good machine to own or would i be better with a raspberry Pi 3?
dar72
2 Mar 161#47
Haha that's good, a friend of mine said he doesn't have any intention of learning vim, so I said in that case he still needs to learn one command, :q!
I remember getting stuck in vi when I first started
out of interest, i'm looking for a nettop to use as an emulator at my parents when we visit them, would like it to run gamecube games easily, can anybody recommend something suitable?
speculatrix
1 Mar 16#44
not voting hot or cold, because it's cheap, but it's slow. similar performance to the Z3735 chips found in tablets and net-tops etc or the Intel Compute Stick first generation.
Forever_Young
1 Mar 16#43
Ordered, but then 2 minutes later it was cancelled. WTH?
Got an e-mail along the lines of:
I definitely did not cancel it, so is it out of stock then? They've already charged me and all, now have to wait 3 or 4 days for a refund. What an absolute waste of time.
Max TDP: 6 W - must be very cheap to run. No doubt it runs cool and quiet.
the__cat
1 Mar 16#41
It's more of a ZFS thing than an OS thing really. Cheers though.
wordmongerer
1 Mar 16#40
I have a Win 7 disc, how easy is it to install with a USB disc drive?
ShaunHH
1 Mar 16#39
thanks for all the extra information - yes (some of) the Vi shortcuts are in my fingers, and every so often I drag myself away from vi, but usually go back at some point... I was even trying out a vi shortcut addon for notepad++ recently.
I was also tempted to try to use a Vi add-on for Visual Studio, as I started using this at work recently, but then I thought I should really start to learn the proper VS shortcuts :-)
I'll have a look at the firefox plugin...
To be honest, I've never really tried arch (well maybe once - only to to have a look), but might check this out as well....
I've been using Lubuntu to keep things fairly slimline, but maybe should go to a plain debian & then try that with i3?
Thanks for all your help - I know this is a bit of a diversion for the main thread!
Awesome is another popular one, as is dwm. I used Awesome for a while but all of the config is in Lua which I've had no experience with before and no other reason to learn so that's a main reason that I switched to i3.
I'd recommend Arch or Gentoo for any tiling window manager, if you go for a distro like Ubuntu you'll spend a lot of time stripping out their pre-installed stuff, or leaving it in place clogging up your system. Archbang should give you a live disc of an Arch system if you want to try it out, it comes with an Openbox desktop pre-installed and configured although I read somewhere that they have an i3 version too, if not just install it on top to play around with.
I use a lot of terminal-based programs on the eepc and on my PC and full sized laptop, some recommendations would be:
Shell - zsh
Email - mutt
Text Editor - vim
IRC - weechat
IM Clients - bitlbee with libpurple support - on a remote server, connect with weechat relay
File Manager - ranger
RSS - newsbeuter
Reddit - rtv
Music - mpd + ncmcpp (client)
Torrents - rtorrent
Tasks - todo.txt
Google Calendar - gcalcli
Games? nethack obviously :wink:
If you like vi/vim and use Firefox try the vimperator plugin, if not have a look anyway if you like keyboard shortcuts.
TBC15
1 Mar 16#37
What's a POGO pin?
spiceychicken691
1 Mar 162#3
for 79.98 this a bargain. using it as a streaming pc. more than enough power. just think and nvidia shield has less power but double the price
dijital to spiceychicken691
1 Mar 16#36
Im pretty sure a Nvidia Shield would absolutely destroy this thing in terms of performance, the cpu in this thing is a tiny bit slower than one of those 7" Linx that keep popping up here for £39. Bu ton aplus side this runs windows (if thats your thing)
StuffyGibbon
1 Mar 16#35
if you're looking for a NAS then maybe buy a NAS or even a HP microserver?
stealth666
1 Mar 16#34
Good deal with ram and SSD even if small....
flobbit
1 Mar 16#33
I believe NAS4Free (forked from an earlier freeNAS) has lower requirements, might be worth a look.
npinn001
1 Mar 16#32
What would be a good alternative please? Interested in one but if there are other options would be keen to see those and choose
ShaunHH
1 Mar 16#31
Never come across the i3 window manager - but it looks ideal for me as I'm a keyboard shortcut person
Will definitely check this out. Thanks!
:-)
midiman
1 Mar 16#30
Its cheap and will function perfectly fine as a media center but there are better options out there. Heat for the price if not for its performance
empyphil
1 Mar 16#29
IOT is very different, when you power it on all you see on the screen is the IP address of the machine and a few settings you can change. The idea is you write your own programs on it.
Latest kernel, i3 window manager (have used openbox on it too). It lives in my tool bag and is used for network configuration and troubleshooting, email, IRC, things like that. I don't like phones, find them difficult to use so I'd rather use that for email if I'm out working at a customer site all day.
I've run Arch virtual machines with 128mb RAM, think it might need a bit more now. That's without a desktop installed though.
Godspeed
1 Mar 162#22
justanotherpunter
1 Mar 16#21
What hardware out of interest and what are you using it for?
Cheers
dar72
1 Mar 161#20
More importantly, the Pi is ARM and I don't think there's a desktop or server version of Windows compiled for ARM just some development thing they made to get their filthy hands in on the Pi.
Why do you want to install noobdows anyway? Is a real OS too much for you? :smile:
Providing there isn't any weird hardware with obscure proprietary drivers, based on CPU, RAM etc this should run a latest version of a Linux distro easily. I run Arch Linux on much, much, much less. The advantage you'd have with Linux on this over a Pi is this isn't ARM.
Max-Power
1 Mar 161#19
Seems a great deal, I've got an Intel NUC 2820 with 4GB RAM and a 64GB SSD, runs Plex and Kodi great and this isn't far off on benchmarks. Looks more than enough for a cheap media PC with some game streaming.
tech3475
1 Mar 165#18
This is not the windows they are looking for.
dwl99
1 Mar 16#10
Would this be any good running Freenas?
the__cat to dwl99
1 Mar 162#17
FreeNAS needs lots of RAM if you use ZFS.
RealMatch
1 Mar 163#16
There's a version of Windows 10, the IoT Core edition, that runs on ARM hardware and looks like it has just been updated to support the Pi 3
You can run windows on less, but it isn't pretty. I have one of those linx tablets and TBH its only much good for browsing and email, fine on a tablet but I want a lot more from a desktop.
Metallifux
1 Mar 16#12
Same chip as is in the lower end Beebox. Needs 4GB of ram in dual channel to do 4k at 30Hz. Good price, hot from me.
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I remember getting stuck in vi when I first started
:laughing:
Got an e-mail along the lines of:
I definitely did not cancel it, so is it out of stock then? They've already charged me and all, now have to wait 3 or 4 days for a refund. What an absolute waste of time.
I was also tempted to try to use a Vi add-on for Visual Studio, as I started using this at work recently, but then I thought I should really start to learn the proper VS shortcuts :-)
I'll have a look at the firefox plugin...
To be honest, I've never really tried arch (well maybe once - only to to have a look), but might check this out as well....
I've been using Lubuntu to keep things fairly slimline, but maybe should go to a plain debian & then try that with i3?
Thanks for all your help - I know this is a bit of a diversion for the main thread!
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Comparison_of_tiling_window_managers
Awesome is another popular one, as is dwm. I used Awesome for a while but all of the config is in Lua which I've had no experience with before and no other reason to learn so that's a main reason that I switched to i3.
I'd recommend Arch or Gentoo for any tiling window manager, if you go for a distro like Ubuntu you'll spend a lot of time stripping out their pre-installed stuff, or leaving it in place clogging up your system. Archbang should give you a live disc of an Arch system if you want to try it out, it comes with an Openbox desktop pre-installed and configured although I read somewhere that they have an i3 version too, if not just install it on top to play around with.
I use a lot of terminal-based programs on the eepc and on my PC and full sized laptop, some recommendations would be:
Shell - zsh
Email - mutt
Text Editor - vim
IRC - weechat
IM Clients - bitlbee with libpurple support - on a remote server, connect with weechat relay
File Manager - ranger
RSS - newsbeuter
Reddit - rtv
Music - mpd + ncmcpp (client)
Torrents - rtorrent
Tasks - todo.txt
Google Calendar - gcalcli
Games? nethack obviously :wink:
If you like vi/vim and use Firefox try the vimperator plugin, if not have a look anyway if you like keyboard shortcuts.
Will definitely check this out. Thanks!
:-)
Afraid not
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asus_Eee_PC
Latest kernel, i3 window manager (have used openbox on it too). It lives in my tool bag and is used for network configuration and troubleshooting, email, IRC, things like that. I don't like phones, find them difficult to use so I'd rather use that for email if I'm out working at a customer site all day.
I've run Arch virtual machines with 128mb RAM, think it might need a bit more now. That's without a desktop installed though.
Cheers
Why do you want to install noobdows anyway? Is a real OS too much for you? :smile:
Providing there isn't any weird hardware with obscure proprietary drivers, based on CPU, RAM etc this should run a latest version of a Linux distro easily. I run Arch Linux on much, much, much less. The advantage you'd have with Linux on this over a Pi is this isn't ARM.
https://dev.windows.com/en-us/featured/raspberrypi2support
According to that the GPU should be able to handle hevc at 4k although the main cpu is a bit slow;
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Celeron+N3050+%40+1.60GHz
Intel Celeron N3050 1.6GHz
2GB RAM + 32GB SSD
WLAN
Free DOS