Just don't :disappointed: - We had the same sort of ridiculous comments in the Redex thread: http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/redex-fuel-system-cleaner-petrol-also-lead-replacement-both-250ml-1-tesco-instore-2188855

I've given up trying to advise people on here about oil / petroleum related things now, it's just not worth the hassle. Let these people live in their own little bubble. Funny thing is, I've spent years working in refineries doing a mixture of engineering and chemistry, yet the internet is the only place is stands for nothing.

There was a thread kicking about a while ago and had some rubbish posted in it about supermarket fuel. I pointed out that Tesco fuel is Esso in almost all areas of the UK. I was called a lair and all sorts of bad things, even though you can find the information on the official ExxonMobil website (Esso is just the name of their retail arm).

I'm certainly not going to debate with anyone in this thread, but choosing oil is quite simple for 99% of people: Buy the cheapest one that you can, that has the correct specifications for your vehicle. If you're changing your oil yearly, you'd have to be doing very high milage for any other considerations to matter.

All the talk about 'additives' in these threads is quite cute. The 'additives' that people speak of are of a very, very small quantity and even in our own internal tests, only made a difference under the most extreme situations - most of which you couldn't replicate in a road engine (because it would be dead before then).

It's no exaggeration to say that we manufactured tests to show that an additive was 'better', passed it to the marketing lot who had a field day, and thus many different 'brands' were born. It was all legal and above board, but some of it was very close to the line back in the 80s and 90s - not so much now though.

Having said that, the marketing still works. I recently spoke to a guy that would only buy a certain brand of oil because "it sticks to the metal" and it had "intelligent molecules"....I kid you not. That was marketing that was used when the product came out decades ago, but of course, it's nonsense ("intelligent molecules" LOL!). It just has a bit less drag (the bottom end the spec allows for) and added zinc, molybdenum and phosphorus to make it 'stick' to things. Of course, that's not even suited to all engines.

Aghhh, sorry, I'm going off on one. Marketing annoys me when it comes to oils. The marketing people I used to work with on occasion used to get as much, if not more than me (and bonuses!), even though they didn't know jack about oils.

Edit - okay, wow. I wasn't expecting this sort of response <3. The self proclaimed oil purists on here usually rate anyone down that doesn't recommend a fully synthetic oil with additives of ostrich tears.

Welcome to the 80's. Where everything was claimed to change your life and do unreasonable claims (People often still believed smoking was good for you). There is a reason the governments around the world started to clamp down on it. This isn't whistle blowing - it's telling you how the industry worked in the 80's (and lots of others - cosmetics and cleaning to name two), with absolutely nothing new being relieved. There is nothing I've said which can't be found in many others places on the web, or even in lessons that deal with the history of marketing.
I wasn't part of the marketing machine, but I was certainly aware of it and we were instructed to remember to pass any information that could help that team on to them.
You also had cartels closely related to this activity: see the Phoebus cartel for example. Marketing back then was embedded into every part of the chain. If you didn't do it, your competitors would.

Again - none of it was illegal - it was just the tests that the industry used was so far from reality that they were of little use to the general public....but strictly speaking, they were true.

I'm not looking for thanks - I'm trying to explain how this situation of people believing a few pence of 'additives' can dramatically change the quality of the oil, as most people don't understand what 'additives' are. I'm spending the time writing these posts because I want to save you money.

The single, most important thing you need to be looking at for your oil is the specifications it has. These are there to ensure certain standards are met. Almost everything else is marketing, if it wasn't and it was important to your engine, it would be a specification (otherwise how would you know it was suitable?).

Heck, I still work as a consultant on occasion, so I should probably keep my mouth shut for self-serving interests. It's just so sad to see the lack of scientific knowledge in the UK. It's at an all time low. We have kids graduating that I've interviewed with degrees who can barely explain the most simple of chemical interactions. The general public is worse: Talking about fuel and oil 'additives' in almost every thread with no understanding of what they mean apart from "it's better to have them m8".

The silly thing is, none of this is unverifiable by using Google and / or speaking to chemists (loads of internet forums out there), but people just can't be bothered to go reading for a couple of hours.

Don't forget the sale5 code stacks aswell for an extra 5% off

TRIPLE QX 5w40 Fully Synthetic Engine Oil 5Ltr £19.43 / Total 10L
Code - FREEOIL2
Buy One Get One Free – Part Number 521776031
Click Here

TRIPLE QX 5w30 Fully Synthetic Engine Oil 5Ltr £34.74 / Total 10L - ***NOW NOT WORKING***
Code - FREEOIL3
Buy One Get One Free - Part Number 521776091
Click Here

TRIPLE QX 10w40 Semi Synthetic Engine Oil - 5ltr £17.99 / Total 10L
Code - FREEOIL4
Buy One Get One Free - Part Number 521776011
Click Here

TRIPLE QX 5w30 Semi Synthetic Engine Oil - 5Ltr £19.99 / Total 10L
Code - FREEOIL 5
Buy One Get One Free - Part number - 521776021
Click Here - [Thanks to chechjb for this one!]

I'm always tempted by Triple QX, but wish I had a better idea of the quality of it and who actually makes it... Some of eurocarparts own brand stuff isn't great. I've always paid the extra few quid for a known quantity like Shell.

Bought thanks..

Bought thanks..

Is there no code for 0w30?

Nice, that's next years oil change sorted :smiley:

Can't go wrong 2-4-1.

Good Price & Free Delivery too. Have some heat

Shhhh... Nobody buy this, you'll have the oil police out again :confused:
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/4-5l-5w30-fully-synthetic-vw-audi-spec-13-99-home-bargains-2380771

Is it suitable for Diesel engines running 10/40?

My 2.5 V6 Mondeo runs with this in it just fine

have some heat my man!

Amazing price, cheers ordered

Anyone here know what to use in BMW 07 e93 325 petrol, been googling and people are saying two different things use BMW LL04 or this or that or that's BS this stuffs better, tempted to by the triple qx 5w30/40

Buy

Good find!

Mine uses about 8.5 per oil change and is due in 2000 miles. Heat.

can not find it on the site now - expired ???
still managed to get the 10w40 which I use for my classic
just need to get some 0w30 for the beemer (takes 6L so it needs to be cheap and good quality as it has a DPF)

Thanks

I'm with you but some people won't be told. They are the willing victims of the advertising scams.

​now, that is what I call good and helpful advice!!!
THANK YOU :wink:

Heat added. My BMW has managed 192k and I've used TripleQ as long as I've owned it. In another 8k miles it'll be just about run in.

F me, someone that knows what they are talking about !
This just won't do.
I demand 1/2 truths,urban myths,witchcraft,vodoo,my mate down the pub and all sorts of general 'tinternet nonsense.

Best oil deal I've ever seen on eurocarparts, have some heat :smiley:

Don't forget the sale5 code stacks aswell for an extra 5% off

oil be avin some of that.......have some heat.....nice find thnx

So you fess up to having been behind a barely legal conspiracy to mislead the public and then you come on here and expect to be thanked for blowing the whistle on your own activities?

Wait a minute, though - a lot of people seem to like what you have to say. Could it be that some people are easily led?

also 5.25 percent via topcashback

is there a code for the PD engine triple qx please?

can you mix n match with this offer?

Cheers. Heat. Ordered. Should keep my old 2001 engine lubricated until Summer at least. Maybe I should get another couple...

Excellent find, needed some, thanks OP. Agree with nomnomnomnom, load of tosh written about oil to flog you branded stuff. If the spec on the container matches what your car needs, buy the cheapest.

TWEET5 for 5% off. Great deal, love the TripleQ stuff for value :smiley:

dont forget 5% quidco

dont forget the 5% quidco :wink:

​i wonder if they worried about that in 1988 when my motor was made.

Code not working for me. Expired?

Welcome to the 80's. Where everything was claimed to change your life and do unreasonable claims (People often still believed smoking was good for you). There is a reason the governments around the world started to clamp down on it. This isn't whistle blowing - it's telling you how the industry worked in the 80's (and lots of others - cosmetics and cleaning to name two), with absolutely nothing new being relieved. There is nothing I've said which can't be found in many others places on the web, or even in lessons that deal with the history of marketing.
I wasn't part of the marketing machine, but I was certainly aware of it and we were instructed to remember to pass any information that could help that team on to them.
You also had cartels closely related to this activity: see the Phoebus cartel for example. Marketing back then was embedded into every part of the chain. If you didn't do it, your competitors would.

Again - none of it was illegal - it was just the tests that the industry used was so far from reality that they were of little use to the general public....but strictly speaking, they were true.

I'm not looking for thanks - I'm trying to explain how this situation of people believing a few pence of 'additives' can dramatically change the quality of the oil, as most people don't understand what 'additives' are. I'm spending the time writing these posts because I want to save you money.

The single, most important thing you need to be looking at for your oil is the specifications it has. These are there to ensure certain standards are met. Almost everything else is marketing, if it wasn't and it was important to your engine, it would be a specification (otherwise how would you know it was suitable?).

Heck, I still work as a consultant on occasion, so I should probably keep my mouth shut for self-serving interests. It's just so sad to see the lack of scientific knowledge in the UK. It's at an all time low. We have kids graduating that I've interviewed with degrees who can barely explain the most simple of chemical interactions. The general public is worse: Talking about fuel and oil 'additives' in almost every thread with no understanding of what they mean apart from "it's better to have them m8".

The silly thing is, none of this is unverifiable by using Google and / or speaking to chemists (loads of internet forums out there), but people just can't be bothered to go reading for a couple of hours.

Hi mate, need some advice. I always fill up at Shell garages, and Shell only. Is the fuel really better at Shell as appose to supermarket fuel?

Thank you

Now doesn't work, invalid or expired.

Just had a live chat with someone and they said that the code for 5W30 oil is now FREEOIL5 but only for semi-synthetic (521776021). That makes it 2 x 5L for £19.99.

Great post showing the power of advertising and marketing, which can be applied to almost every product, from groceries to petrochemicals and everything in between.

pfff FREEOIL3 NOT WORKING :disappointed:

The oil will be perfect, as long as correct specification and grade is used. Spending more is a total waste of money. Regular oil and filter changes are the secret of long engine life.

Awesome price. Its cheap even when its usually 13£ for one bottle.

Nice find, OP, thanks.

Thank you got the deal and also for all the info:p

Late father in law used to be a chemical engineer for a huge cleaning company, he always stick to basic supermarket cheapo brands with his detergents, always reminding us it's the same thing in all the boxes and bottles, but with different perfumes and marketing.

Time to service the car

Personally I don't use this oil ,, I never will , as I choose to only use Ester based oils !!!

But yes that's far more expensive than this oil , and this site is all about deals , and even though I will never use this oil I agree that 2 for the price is a deal !

I totally agree with your comments, and would got little further. It does not matter what oil or fuel you buy. The best oil or fuel is the one that is just adequate to meet the the manufacturers' specification for the vehicle. Anything of a 'higher quality' is a total waste of money.Any professional engineer worth his salt knows that the correct quality standard for ANYTHING, is 'just adequate'. Over 20 years experience negotiating fuel and oil contracts for airlines.
I still have a little laugh when I see claims that supermarket petrol fuel is somehow inferior to that from petrol stations. I wonder what they would say if they knew that different 'branded' petrol stations sometimes receive part loads from the same tanker. You don't see many fuel tankers with a brand name on them these days, becausemost of them belong to independent haulage companies. The days have long gone when tankers were running around with both Shellmex and BP painted on the same tanker! These days its all smoke and mirrors from the marketing guys (and gals!).

Heat for the deal. Changed from edge 5-30 to this as could not justify the cost of it.

The engine seems to like it, and heard good stuff about this brand. Im sure euros wouldnt sell tons of this if it bad, even tho they do with their parts.

^^someone had to bring up the old fuel v fuel :smiley:

Ester is not just a Mobil 1 product :confused:

eh ! im ignoring manufacturers specs , but you don`t know what I drive , or RIDE for that reason,
confused.com :confused:

You put whatever oil you like in you car , I will do the same ,,, and we don't have to justify to anyone why we use that oil,,, deal :smirk:

Well if your car is under warranty and you don't use approved oil then you will have to justify to them in the event of a claim. However as you clearly know more than them no doubt you will convince them not to apply the rules that ordinary mortals have to follow.

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/redex-fuel-system-treatment-2-50-250ml-petrol-diesel-great-price-wilko-2382105?page=3#comments

haha, they're at it again nomnom =D

oh for goodness sakes, go troll someone else ,

Oh I've just realised "CBR" isn't that one of those 2 wheel death traps for those who never grew up. What does it take,a pint of oil?