Thanks for the deal. I've been waiting for the Sony to come in at a good price :-)

BTW, I used this deal to get ao.com to price match.

Absolutely. I think the mantra would be “You’d have to be dumb to buy a smart television”. The timescales are completely different. Most people can comfortably hang on to a television for about a decade, under the ethos of “if it still works, why change it?” Smartphones of a decade ago are dramatically different than those of today — for example, they exist today, all we had back then were feature-phones. The evolution of the two are so differently paced that it doesn’t make sense for half of a television to age and degrade at a different rate to the other half. Phones have taught us all that manufacturers will simply lose interest in your product as soon as the model after the one you bought is on the shelf. Google claim they’ll support Android TV for three years after, for a given model of television. I say that’s nowhere near enough — ten years would be acceptable. I’d be comfortable with ten years guaranteed functionality (not necessarily updates at that stage, but certainly what once worked should still work, or be made to function in some acceptable alternative way). Having ‘dead’ undeletable apps or designed-in buttons or functions that once worked, is simply never acceptable.

Would this be any good for gaming on a XB1 ?

Would this be any good for gaming on a XB1 ?

If you're looking for a 'dumb' tv that is has excellent pq then you should check out the Panasonic TX-50CS520. It still has lots of modern features but isn't tied down with Android OS.

It goes for for around £450 online but can definitely be found cheaper. Asda had them for £380 in a deal someone posted below.

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/panasonic-tx-50cs520-black-380-asda-2336961

Unfortunately this is the curse of "Smart" TVs. At any point in the future the apps can stop working and there is nothing you can do about it.

My Samsung Bluray player was "smart". For about a year. Then half the apps stopped working. After 12 months these devices are considered obsolete by the manufacturer and they've got no real incentive to update them. I would never buy a TV based on Smart features given the awful track record all the manufacturers have at updating them. Services like YouTube will always change so it is the responsibility of the manufacturer to keep up. Most don't bother.

Does anyone know how to get the 5 year garuntee? It's just saying that 1 year is included

I'll never buy a Sony TV again. I bought my current one 5 years ago and they've disabled the YouTube on it.

Im a little dim with these things, whats so great about this set over others. Ive seen a samsung for similar price

this is not android. top price. been waiting for this to reduce in price again :smiley:

ive been told to steer clear of android based sony tv's, is this one?

anyone know the retailer to trust as can't say I've heard of them

Some post codes will qualify for their free delivery option - so possibly £399.99 in total depending on where you live! My London address was free, my address in Scotland only gave the £20 option.

good find op, heat