Not fussed about 4K gaming.

Which card can I pick up that can play 4K films from PC to 4K TV?

I don't understand what is so hard, you said google is littered with it. So, show us a few google searches.

Seriously mate I don't care anymore as its depressing as hell.

They're making good points... Try and read it.

Ok bye bye troll I can't be bothered to read your rubbish

Provide your google search that is littered with it. Using the words "Just Google it" doesn't mean anything. Google what?
Here are some google searches and results. I only consider first page.
GPU Best Bang for Buck - 970 and 290x neck and neck.
best high end graphics card - More 980 ti than anything. A smattering of 970 and 390
I'm going to stop there. Your turn. Post your google search that nets the results. I don't believe you've actually tried to google this and you are just hoping it returns what you think.
Also, AMD doesn't appear to be picking up any market share, according to the steam hardware survey.http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey
The R300 set of cards don't even make up .30% of all GPUs, which is the minimum required to report % gains. The 960 and 970 are the top gaining GPUs in the list.
If anything, the steam survey suggests NVIDIA is gaining market shares.
Bit Coin mining is done. AMD market share since the 79xx are way down.[/quote ok bye bye troll can't be bothered to read

Provide your google search that is littered with it. Using the words "Just Google it" doesn't mean anything. Google what?

Here are some google searches and results. I only consider first page.

GPU Best Bang for Buck - 970 and 290x neck and neck.

best high end graphics card - More 980 ti than anything. A smattering of 970 and 390

I'm going to stop there. Your turn. Post your google search that nets the results. I don't believe you've actually tried to google this and you are just hoping it returns what you think.

Also, AMD doesn't appear to be picking up any market share, according to the steam hardware survey.

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

The R300 set of cards don't even make up .30% of all GPUs, which is the minimum required to report % gains. The 960 and 970 are the top gaining GPUs in the list.

If anything, the steam survey suggests NVIDIA is gaining market shares.

Bit Coin mining is done. AMD market share since the 79xx are way down.

Damn out of stock. Hope they can still keep this deal going. Probably the best 390 at a really good price.

Google it as its littered on the Internet as the best bang for buck card. It was the 970 but it's not anymore and u seem to lack common sense like most people u fortunately.
Why do u hate amd?
I personally don't hate nvidia but it's not the best bang for buck anymore.
Thank god amd is picking up market share and so we can have compition as every customer wins.

Don't believe everything u read surly you have heard don't believe what u read in the news papers. Microsoft and nvidia and no doubt amd pay review companies to give good review just like Intel do and apple. Would u turn down a big bag of life changing cash ?
These are billion pound companies and u can't begin to imagine what that kind of money looks like when offered. Please don't be so gullible in life as its a very dirty business behind the scenes when that kind of cash is at stake.
Anyway these cards are great for your average gamer who does not have lots of cash for the top cards. Play 1080p ultra settings and scale better in higher resolutions with lots of vram for the future. They are the best bang for buck card and are better than the 970 as they will out live the 970. Nvidia is the best cards if u upgrade each year and buy there top cards and game a hell of a lot but the fact is most people don't have the time to game a lot with work and family life and social life so that makes these cards the better card for the average joe. How u can say they don't make the cards weaker over time is laughable as no one would need to upgrade as optimisation has got better on PC and console are holding them back. How would they sell cards and keep share price high and return dividens back to there share holders of u don't need to upgrade?
The Titian has clearly been gimped and how u say it hasn't is crazy and the 780ti has slowed down so again if they didn't slow them u wouldn't need to upgrade and the company would go bust. There is no way on earth that a 290x now beats a Titian and u say they well it's outdated but it's 2.5 years old and cost £900. I would expect better support for a £900 card wouldn't you if you bought it?
One of my friends is so angry about it as he bought it and now it plays like garbage.
I like nvidia cards as they are the best at release but they are a sneaky company who steals from you by taking performance away from you.
Any how I'm not on a high horse but clearly he is on a one man mission to make nvidia richer or he is getting money for doing this.
He is damaging the industry with out even knowing it. Look at Intel with the monopoly and prices are going up yay
and now we get 5% increase yay
Any way this is my last comment as its driving me nuts but yeah buy nvidia and get great performance today and then amd can go bust and we can look forward to 5-10% increase and price rises.
Amd is the best bang for buck card in this price range fact and is perfect for the average gamer fact !
Good bye

I hardly believe you have the power to tell who is welcome in this thread. Nate1492 has at least brought up some quite credibly sources to the discussion where as you have just given your opinion and stated it as fact.

I don't have much interest in these futile discussions but I just feel you should get of your high horse and be a bit more respectful in your comments. Maybe that's too much to ask in the internet age.

PS. No I'm not what you would call an NVIDIA fan boy, my next card will be an AMD one.

Powered by USB.

10-bit you would have 4:2:0 with the 970.

Thank you, does say active, I assume it needs a power supply on the top of that, is that correct.? Thank you for the chart and my question if you know: what about the NVidia gtx970 in this case (I also got that)? is also stuck at a maximum 8bit panel 4k@ 4-4-4 [email protected] or will work with these top of the range samsung 10bit panel at 4k60hz 4-4-4 (example Samsung js9000)??
Thank You

very curious, is anyone tried the DP to HDMI converter to get 4k at [email protected] from any suitable AMD GPU ?? does it work properly? can anyone address me which one I should buy or any cheap one would do the job well??

R9 295x2 goes against a £3000 Titan z and wiped the floor with it. I don't care just keep off the amd thread as your not welcome. I don't go to nvidia thread telling every one to buy amd. Don't reply as I don't care

You are making things up and trying to make it sound like I'm a fanboy to suit your opinion.

The UK launch price for the 780ti was £599. The US launched at $699.

The UK launch price for the 290x was £449. The US launched at $549.

I mean, you're off by £150 quid for starters. That's a significant fudge on your part. Are you really happy with that big of error? Your statement isn't true and you used it to slam people and their opinions.

Look. I just proved to you with a reasonable review that what you've said is absolutely wrong. you made up more fiction with the prices. And then you called me a fanboy. I'm not making things up. You've created a narrative where you want to call me a fanboy. Fine, you can call me names all you want. I've provided evidence. Stick your head in the sand and ignore it, or accept it, I no longer care.

Oh, and I don't remember you complaining about the AMD 295x and it's 30% gain over the 780ti. Don't forget, it cost £1199, which is double the 780ti and actually £600 quid more. I mean, maybe, just maybe, there is a market for 30% gains? You don't want to pay £150 for a 30% gain, but someone else will pay £600 for a 30% gain.

Sources:

[url=780 ti Launch Price]http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/geforce-gtx-780-ti-review-benchmarks,review-32820-19.html[/url]

[url=290x launch price]http://www.pcr-online.biz/news/read/amd-radeon-r9-290x-uk-price-revealed-it-s-lower-than-the-titan/032274[/url]

Yes they were £650 -£750
290x was £450
Man this day is a killer I'm getting to old and need my sleep

£300 more?

I personally think it's more than 9% and more like 15% and 20% on there own titles that suit there hardware.
But ok 9% down to 6% is massive anyway as that 33% gap that u paid £300 for. Anyway I'm too tired as I'm stuck at work and I'm shattered. Just keep buying the green teams offerings and we can look forward to 5%_10% upgrades in the future.
Seems hard to remember getting over 100% jumps now as those days are long gone same as cpu welcome to the milk factory

Don't be a fool all your life they are not going to sue me. I'm not saying they paid the that reviewer off 100% but they have done in the past like all company's do so don't be so naive

So, you are saying NVIDIA paid for reviews from Hardware Canucks? They are one of the most reputable review sights on the net.

Such allegations are consider libel without proof and could result in you being sued in court. Just saying, this is a serious allegation, you can't just casually call people frauds.

I'll make this easier for you, as you are clearly missing out. You are using words like "smoking the 290x on release" and "now it's not".

On release, according the the article I linked you, and you appear to refuse to read.

November 2013: 780ti was 9% ahead of the 290x.

August 2015: 780ti was 6% ahead of the 290x.

You are trying to say that the 3% change over the course of 2 years is 'gimping' a card? That's an utter joke.

Review not arrivals that predictive text. Any way work in 3 hours so need some sleep I'm going to be shattered tomorrow

Also it really would not surprise me if nvidia paid for arrivals like that as don't forget they was happy to lie about the vram. Believe these companies pay reviewers same as games companies do. Nothing like a big load of tax free cash to spend for a quick article.
Still can't believe 1-5fps and loses in some games for 50% more cash. That is what u called milked.
And o will be milked if the only place I can buy a gpu from is the green team with no competition yay

Are u have a laugh?
I just looked at the benchmarks and it ranges from 1-5 fps.
This is a gpu that cost 50% more than a 290x and u think that's value ?
Erm u can clearly tell that it's been gimped because the 780tu was smoking the 290x on release.
Lol 1-5 fps for 50% more cash.
And u say amd is not better bang for buck?
This is what I mean by if nvidia gets complete control these are the sort of gains we will see.
Also they are old games again and not new ones.
Trust me they are gimping them because there cards are that good and no one will buy them if there is no need to upgrade and that will hurt there share price and will make them broke like amd.
Geez 1-5 fps on a 50% more expensive card released in a month of each other. So that's nearly £300 difference in price and I wonder how many years that would last in your electric meter. Don't forget those are over nearly 2 year old games so the gap is smaller with last winters games and soon the 290x will take it over like the original Titian.
That's nearly £60 a fps your paying there and that's top value well done

Well its all got a bit personal hasn't it.
You're coming across a bit like that Harry Enfield character considerably richer than thou. Really who cares if you spent 2k on a pc, they depreciate worse than cars.
The link nate provided was pretty good evidence they're not crippling their cards. They are end of life products at some point they have to stop supporting it like ms and xp. The reason old AMD cards seem to improve is that they're basically still in production just rebadged.
Please leave personal insults out of it, it's very bad form

Are u have a laugh?
I just looked at the benchmarks and it ranges from 1-5 fps.
This is a gpu that cost 50% more than a 290x and u think that's value ?
Erm u can clearly tell that it's been gimped because the 780tu was smoking the 290x on release.
Lol 1-5 fps for 50% more cash.
And u say amd is not better bang for buck?
This is what I mean by if nvidia gets complete control these are the sort of gains we will see.
Also they are old games again and not new ones.
Trust me they are gimping them because there cards are that good and no one will buy them if there is no need to upgrade and that will hurt there share price and will make them broke like amd.
Geez 1-5 fps on a 50% more expensive card released in a month of each other. So that's nearly £300 difference in price and I wonder how many years that would last in your electric meter. Don't forget those are over nearly 2 year old games so the gap is smaller with last winters games and soon the 290x will take it over like the original Titian.
That's nearly £50 a fps your paying there and that's top value well done !

look mate I'm sorry as I don't want to have a go or argue or call names.
But we wil get royally screwed if amd gets even more broke as they are struggling to fight on two front lines with there terrible Research budget.
Intel does not care about the desktop market much that's why we get 5%.
They care about the mobile section and server market as that's very lucrative.
Nvidia will keep the desk top gpu market and it will get locked into just nvidias vision of the future which is being milked and locked into a Eco system. Surly u want choice of gpu as that's what gives us the buyers great prices but more importantly it creates inovation. Look at the inovation on desk top cpu in the last 5 years or more that is what nvidia desk top gpu will be like.
Yay we get 5-10% better fps.
As it is gpu growth is slowing and soon with one gpu maker it will almost stop developing. Won't that be awsome and I can't wait for that.

Just google the benchmarks as u can see over what nearly 3 years the gap has closed.
The Titian is now no more which bit of price/performance and gimping and lying do u not understand?
Why do u love nvidia so much as nvidia does not love you.
U are crazy to love a company that its aim is to get money out of your pocket and into there's .
How can u support gimpworks when it messes the game up for every one.
How can u support nvidia closing the PC platform like a console and making u chose sides.
Why can't they make gsync and freesync monitors.
Seriously I know you are young and u don't remember the old years but PC is suppose to be a open platform which is shared. Nvidia don't want a open platform they want there own PC ecosystem to close it off so u can't leave.
I like amd just as much as nvidia which is not a lot but we need amd because otherwise we will be milked like Intel is doing. How can u not see this. U think nvidia won't milk us once they have is locked in?
Amd would do the same if they could possibly but they don't want a closed system they want it open.
Why won't game works give the code to amd but yet amd will give there game code to nvidia and yet u support this practise?
Your a fan boy and worse of all your damaging the industry with out seeing it which happens to be a hobby that I love.
I will buy who ever gives me the best gpu price performance and at the moment in time it's amd.
Nvidia and Intel don't want amd dead because then they can't be accused of a monopoly but if they are weak like there cpu is then they can mop up market share but can't be accused of a monopoly because there is compition.
We will be milked and if u think nvidia won't milk is then u are a complete idiot. The company's job is to make a profit and share holders need a return and guess what humans are a naturally greedy species.
I tell u know if amd goes under u will say in the future " oh I wish amd didn't go under as now we see small gpu gains and the cards cost more and we need to upgrade regularly"
Sounds just like Intel all over again dosnt it?
Trust me I have witnessed it with the old great gpu manufacturers like voodoo and ati etc
Nvidia is ahead of amd on dx11 this is common knowledge but if they didn't mess up the drivers then not many people would upgrade can't u see that. Then share holders and investors would not be happy as they want profit and nvidia shares would go down.
I really hope amd comes out and smashes Intel but honestly it's not going to happen but then we would get some gains again instead of 5%.
I remember when I use to upgrade my cpu they would atleast double and some times nearly triple in power.
Gpu use to double and prices where down because lots of compition and cards were coming out every few months. We need that again it it's not going to happen because u want to be milked by nvidia and let amd just survive and watch the gpu market stagnate like the cpu market because it will happen if nvidia keeps mopping up market share and amd not beating Intel.
U even stick up for a company when they lie or mislead over there vram what more proof do u want that nvidia don't give a s**t about you.
Why would u swear a oaf of aligence to a company as that's crazy!
Would u sign a aligence to me if I opened a shop with branded goods and u didn't know me on a face to face or even speak with me over the telephone.
See it's crazy so stop fan boying out and climb out of nvidia bum crack because they will poo all over you when they know they can just like Intel and amd would do the same if they had the power.

Lol little fan boy you do like a good moan and sound like my misses.
Didn't bring the 3.5gb up to score points just try a new direction to help him u understand. The 3.5gb is old news but clearly u are upset by it haha
Go play with your 960 and the good thing is they can't gimp your card very much as its poo to start with.
U just don't want people buying a better card than the one u have.
Meanwhile I sit here with slightly under £2000 PC and soon to upgrade to the highest card next gen if they can do 60fps 4K. And yes I will be going nvidia if they can do it as I'm not a fan boy like u but u can bet your little maggot that I will sell the card before the next next cards come out so it does not get gimped massively but u don't have to worry as your 960 can't be gimped because it was gimped on release because it's a turd. Anyway time to get some sleep and tomorrow I will enjoy my 1440p 144hz freesync on my over powered amd card. Oh and it looks great at those refresh rates and resolution but I guess u will have to wait for the budget cards to offer that power

Stop trying to change the subject.

Get back on the subject that you made a bold claim!

I gave you a link, you said you read it, do you agree?

290x and 780ti have not changed in comparison.

Your statement in the previous post was incorrect.

You have 2 choices.

Admit you were wrong or provide evidence that your statement was correct.

Look, I can't take what you say seriously anymore.

I gave you a source refuting your speculation that NVIDIA gimp their cards post release and you change the subject to 3.5 gb VRAM.

How can anyone take you seriously if you won't admit when you are wrong?

Perhaps you don't understand the article I linked? I'm more than willing to explain what Hardware Canucks have said, if it is too long or too confusing.

I'll simplify it for you.

There has been almost no change between the 290x and the 780ti.

If you want to continue with a civil, adult, conversation, acknowledge this previous sentence or offer *evidence* to dispute. I will not accept your word as evidence.

Better still imagine it's your ferrari (Titian) and it does 100mph easy and then u go for a service and it's a little slower and before u know it , it only does a 100mph and the Ford Focus (290x) is taking you over and out accelerating you. If you bought that u would be **** at Ferrari and it's the same thing just different context .
Oh and you found out it only had 3.5 valves as the other 0.5 valve does not keep up with the engine.
I would be p**sed to say the least

Nvidia cards are the better cards that's a fact and when they release they are awsome but they are sneaky gits. Imagine if Volkswagen sold a car with fake or misleading vram or horse power in this case. They would be sued to the hilt like they have been. Then imagine going for a service and they turn down the rpm each time u go to the garage.
If it was another market they would be sued as it cost Volkswagen more than nvidia is worth.
Like i say kudos to nvidia because they are laughing all the way to the bank. If they didn't make such good gpu And didn't need to turn the power down they would be awsome but then they wouldn't make any money would they as no one would upgrade haha

I'm not denying that AMD might be the better choice in the long run, I believe it's because of GCN, were as NVIDIA do things differently. If it is true, getting the information out is important, to prevent it in the future.

The 970 was sold as a 4GB VRAM card, which it is, the problem is that 0.5GB of it is slower than the rest. Even if it doesn't effect performance much now after driver updates and patches (ignoring most of the slow memory) yet it doesn't excuse it. Put me off the card completely.

The HDMI 2.0 and DVI debate is entirely subjective. If you need HDMI 2.0 then it effects you. Otherwise it doesn't.

Can't sleep and funnily enough I read that the other day. U can see the performance has been turned down. Don't forget this was released after the 290x by about a month and a 50% increase ! And yet the 290x goes toe to toe with it. The 780ti should absolutely blow it out the water. How do u explain the original Titian that cost twice the price and now loses to the 290x yet on release it was destroying the 290x and yet here we are today and it performs worse than a 290x and the 780ti is slowly slowing down. Seriously I really don't know how nvidia gets away with it and kudos to them because they are ripping people off.
Ok let's put it this way then they sold the 970 as 4gb when really it's 3.5gb so if they fake that what gives you faith that they won't slow the card down?
Don't get me wrong amd is no angel but atleast while they are on the ropes they are not screwing there customers over. There is a couple of things I don't like about amd at the minute and that's the overclockers dream quote and no HDMI 2 on the fury X and fury and nano as I think that stingy but in there defence the cards can't do ultra or max settings at 4k and if u are buying that card and going for 4K u clearly like your graphics so u will be monitor over DP as tv looks **** compared to monitor.

Why do I come onto the AMD thread and discuss what is being said?

Because I see people making bold claims, either straight up lying about AMD/NVIDIA or being ignorant about the claims.

When you cannot back up your bold claims when requested, and you refuse to step down, you are actively deceiving consumers.

I am here because I believe there are people on these forums that do not care about fellow consumers. I see a few posters actively lying to consumers. I feel obligated to make sure people can be given information that is relevant, not biased empirical evidence.

I will look tomorrow mate as got work in the morning

Did you check out the link Nate posted here: http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/sapphire-nitro-r9-390-tri-x-8gb-graphics-card-free-delivery-2-quidco-252-99-ebuyer-2368078?p=27132991

Why come on a amd thread as I don't go on nvidia threads. U fan boys are crazy now go play with your 960 for 30 hours a week.
Night night as some of us have work in the morning

Some info :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IghcowGhRBc

So, when I come to this thread with facts, math, and sources, I'm "Repeating rubbish and manipulating people" but when you spout nonsense, you are doing what exactly?

Hypocrite.

This is a myth.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/70125-gtx-780-ti-vs-r9-290x-rematch.html

People keep repeating this without any evidence, so a Hardware Canucks decided to try it out.'

If you can't be bothered reading a 6 page review comparing how 2 years impacts the cards... It can be summed up with this:

You are accusing other people of being a fanboy, yet you type this absolute drivel?

How good is ebuyer? Heard mixed things about them. Will they be a reliable place to buy from?

Don't forget that Nvidia not providing drivers for long time.Example Gtx 770 (powerful card,but...) start to be very slow compare to some AMD cards ,that GTX 770 outperform before.They just stop to support it.-> Who knows what will happen with gtx 970 drivers after PASCAL Nvidia will go out for the market :smiley:

Very wise as there is no point buying now as the next nm gpu are only a half a year away. Thankfully some one speaks sense and wants price/performance but does not care who gives it to them. I have no doubt amd are just as horrible as nvidia or Intel. But for now atleast they don't mess with your cards performance in the near future. Maxwell will see performance loss when pascal releases if nvidia is in a strong postion like they are now and that is not right, you pay your hard earned money for your gpu and it should stay at its full potential through out its life cycle.

Got no intention of buying a new card yet and it depends who has best price/performance at the time. most games I play run fine.

Don't forget Nvidia have 80%market share for add in boards I can't see that changing anytime soon even if AMD get close to their performance.

Let's not forget they're all running a business to make money (or loss in AMDs case

I knew u was going to say a amd card. Great card u have there and hasn't she aged magnifencent compared to a nvidia card of the same gen? You are enjoying higher fps now than nvidias offering of that gen

7950.

Lol what card u have anyway m8?

:confused:

Clearly u are a nvidia fan boy

What are you going on about...

Lol the fan boy is strong in this one.
In the future u will look back at this and laugh.
This nvidia and amd reminds me of the spectrum and commador at primary school haha

If talking about PC games with Async Compute... There's not many straws...

Lol again u are clutching at straws. The Internet is littered with it. That's like saying do u have a reliable source for x2 dx12. We also know amd has a bigger boost in dx12 for now.
Do u think nvidia or amd cares about its fan boys. Would they care if you got hit by a bus tomorrow?
Seriously it's crazy.
I will jump ship to who ever gives me the best value card that does not gimp the hardware in software updates to make it look weaker than what it is as that's theft in my eyes.

Have you got any unbiased evidence that Async Compute makes a difference in games?

I did day nvidia get a boost but look at the benchmarks and amd get a much much bigger boost also u forget to mention about no a sync which is going to hurt nvidia on pascal unless they get there act together but I don't see it as its already taped out.That reply is just nvidia fan boy. Again nvidia fan boys only big up navidia and never amd where I will say the truth as I have no side. To just cherry pick one side and take the best features is comical at best. If u want to buy new cards each gen go nvidia but there really is no need with consoles holding them back so better value is with amd at the moment. U never know if amd kick nvidia butt in dx12 then nvidia might be the better bang for buck card. You have to remember the general public are not fan boys and will switch side at a moments notice as I know I will.

The major benefit with DX12/Vulkan is the reduced CPU overhead. With DX11, NVIDIA is near 2x more efficient at it.

Looking forward to future DX12 games :smiley:

He's just pointing out that the AMD cards are not energy efficient to achieve similar performance, it's his opinion doesn't mean he's manipulating anyone not sure many people would be that swayed. Slagging him off is pretty bad form, you weren't the only person around in the 1990s that had 3d cards. I still run a 560ti and it's only note starting to show its age.

Thank you for the info.

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And why do u have to go every amd thread and sing nvidia all over it. Go to a nvidia thread and convince them to buy it there as you are clearly being paid by nvidia or you are a robot or you are just a idiot who does nvidia marketing for free.
Do u think mr nvidia will care if you are hit by a bus tomorrow?
He won't but his wallet will.
Stop being a fan boy and giving horrible advice as u have only been PC gaming for a few years and run a poor 960.
I have witnessed the Indusrty from the very start when the first 3D graphics cards was released in the mid 90's and I use to buy nvidia untill a few years ago untill they started crippling there hardware with software to make u upgrade as there gpu is the best at release.

Good grief are u paid by nvidia to repeat the same rubbish over and over again. Stop manipulating people's decisions. These are great cards for the money and offer better bang for buck than nvidia. Also u dont have to upgrade all the time as amd cards age far superior than nvidia. Titian and 780ti can't keep up with 290x which is half the price of nvidias cards and yet they are the better gpu but now they are not so people will need to upgrade faster.
If u want to upgrade your gpu like a mobile phone then get nvidia its the best there is hands down but if u are like most people and don't want to upgrade like a mobile phone then go amd as its cheaper to buy now and in the long run and better bang for buck and they age fantastic

is there any difference between tri x or just normal 390 ?? or they just same??

They are neck and neck in pricing and they trade blows with who has the better results.

Don't be fooled by 8GB VRAM. Unless you plan on triple monitor or 4k, you will not get anywhere near 8 GB.

Even the Fury X and the Fury have 4 GB of VRAM.

Also, the 390 really isn't powerful enough to handle most 4k right now, so I couldn't really suggest it in any 4k/triple monitor setup.

Now, the tricky part.

How much will the 390 cost you to run it compared to the 970?

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R9-390-vs-GeForce-GTX-970

I don't really like GPU Boss for their benches, however, they list stats nicely. 148W versus 275W.

That's 127 less Watts!

.127 KWh (used in formula)

So, every 10 hours, you use 1.27 KWh more.

Let's say you average 10 hours per week gaming. 52 weeks a year. I just opened my electric bill yesterday, 16 pence per KWh.

Formula YearlyHours x KWhx Price

If I gamed 10 hours average per week, this would cost: 520 x .127 x .16 = 10.57

20 hours? 21.14

30 hours? 31.71

I personally game around 30 hours a week. That adds up to nearly 100 quid over the course of 3 years.

Average users, over the course of 3 years, can expect this card to cost them over 30 quid more! Heavy gamers can expect 100+ quid extra.

Don't forget about the drawbacks of that HUGE TDP.

Not only will you need to consider bigger PSUs to handle the TDP in your rig, you actually have to PAY for that power too.

And, handily enough, if you hate math and simply want to know the cost difference, this works out to this...

TL:DR (Or if you hate math)

How many hours per week do you play? Whatever number you just said is the amount of Pounds you will save per year.

Just trying to convince myself I really need it ( currently having 660TI ) ...

You said double the price. Nowhere near :smiley:

Is this not 8GB, compared to the 970's 4GB?

How do these compare to Nvidia cards? They seem to be double the price…

Lol my bad. I need my eyes checked and a good cup of coffee. I do apologise.

Aren't they talking about 3440x1440?

Got this for about £205 from ocuk on black Friday. Good card so far!

Just got this down to £237.99 :smile:

U would be lucky to get 60+ fps with a 980ti on 4K ultra/max settings in the newest games. I think u should research properly before saying things like that to people as its simple not true. U need a 980ti sli config which is 2 980ti graphic cards to hit those frames

Thanks for the info. Mine was running unusually hot, so I've sent it back.

Mine idles about 30 thereabouts.

Lower temps are better for the life of the card.
Just re-read the discussion on temps and mine idles at the same mark (300MHz and around 60 degrees Celsius) on a MSI R9 390.
Unless I've misunderstood it, this is a feature from MSI that is meant to prolong the life of the card. [/quote]

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Just re-read the discussion on temps and mine idles at the same mark (300MHz and around 60 degrees Celsius) on a MSI R9 390.

Unless I've misunderstood it, this is a feature from MSI that is meant to prolong the life of the card.

:-) Got the RMA number yesterday! Good to get a second opinion, re-affirms my thoughts that it wasn't quite right. Managed to get a flubit price against ebuyer for the same card for £237.99. Can't see any better deals at the moment.

57c while idling at 300MHz? I'd be returning that ASAP :smiley:[/quote]

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57c while idling at 300MHz? I'd be returning that ASAP :smiley:

Thanks for sharing that review. See this screen shot showing the temp of 57oC, the GPU seems to idle at 300MHz, but is still hot. Case is optimised for good airflow and I even added a side fan that blows directly on the GPU. Have placed the GTX970 back in the case and it's running at 33oC. http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac343/paulgo1146/Benchmarks/Afterburner%20settings.jpg

Just found this review. It looks similar to yours temp wise. I'd think the idle temp is hot too but seems normal for this version of the 390.http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/86927-sapphire-r9-390-nitro/?page=11[/quote]

Just found this review. It looks similar to yours temp wise. I'd think the idle temp is hot too but seems normal for this version of the 390.

http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/86927-sapphire-r9-390-nitro/?page=11

Only reaches 70oC-71oC, while benching on either valley, heaven or firestrike. Seems a little strange that it doesn't seem to cool right back down again. Even if I'm just surfing and watching videos, it went up to 60oC.

Sounds like it's not idling at all there. How hot are the other components, CPU, HDD?
Have you ran an intensive GPU benchmark, like a game benchmark to see how hot it gets?

After running benchmark and waiting for 5 minutes, the CPU is 41oC, Motherboard 31oC. VRM 42oC but GPU still 51oC. I'm going to send it back, as it's unusually high. My GTX970 in the same config was running at 35oC.
Sounds like it's not idling at all there. How hot are the other components, CPU, HDD?[quote=themanwithapc]

Sounds like it's not idling at all there. How hot are the other components, CPU, HDD?


Very true. You don't have to have every setting maxed out to have a good experience.


CPU, games you play, and at what resolution?

This or the MSI GTX 970 Twin Frozr?

You could have used Flubit and saved quite a bit more.

I picked up the 390X version last week for £285 from OCUK. I'm running it at 2560x1600 and it's not having any trouble so far.

CheeRS

I've just bought a new monitor 3440x1440. I'm assuming that I need a 980ti, however, would this run modern games at that res?

It's OK using Flubit until you want to return your item..... Flubit is the buyer not you!

Hovers around 40/41 Degrees in idle with PC set to all PC fans set to Zero RPM. Most of the time if just browsing internet card has never gone above 42 degree according to CAM. In idle core clocks sits at 300 and Memory at 150

Also fans don't spin on GPU until it hits above 60 Degrees.

Try removing all drivers using GDDU and then reinstall latest drivers cleanly and see if that makes a difference. Also have you set your PC power Option to High Performance or as default Balanced

Great card. Got one myself recently and extremely happy

Fireworks Courier: Yodel, hah no ty.

Thanks Salfordgirl1!! I just got mine for £237.99 and I cancelled my original order! :smile:

​You just get 2% instantly, if you wait the amount of time it states, you will get more off.

I've never used Flubit before so I just signed up, I've got the £249.99 price, let see if I get the cheaper quote! Thanks!

Just got my quote back.

£240.59. Saves you £12.

............Obviously you don't use the 2% instant discount and wait for the 10% one in 2 hours.