I would love one of these but I just can't afford one! Sooo much faster than any of the old SATA connected SSD's but unfortunately, a lot more expensive too.
Now if you are only comparing cost/GB to ordinary SSD's then you will probably have already clicked on cold by now(!) but if you're want, and can afford, the best then I've not seen these cheaper than this.
(maybe I should see what I can flog on ebay to raise some funds?)
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spudzy
15 Jan 164#9
You really need to do your research here for this one it's not like adding a normal SSD
1) Make sure you have the right slot on your motherboard or get a PCIE adapter (which is just as fast as motherboard slot)
2) Make sure that your motherboard supports the full bandwidth PCIE 3.0 x4 rather than x2 or else you wont get the full speed out of the memory
3) Make sure your bios is NVME compatible not just AHCI
4) make sure you have adequate cooling for this which they don't make easy because they void warranted for removing the sticker across the memory modules. Otherwise you can run up against thermal throttling (slowing down when it gets hot). I made a little custom heat spreader with a small piece of copper plate I go from ebay and thermal grease under the motherboard it also makes contact with the case further cooling the memory really works a treat.
5) Make sure you unplug other storage drive before installing window on it
The drive is blazing fast and it does make a difference on booting windows 10 and loading games I have the 250gb version of this drive with ASROCK Z170 Gaming-ITX/AC motherboard. seeing I was putting it in an ITX case. Speed test show I'm getting full speed and the 500GB version is even a little faster.
I have my OS, programs and steam games on my SSD, all my files on my mechanical drives. Would having steam games on a mechanical drive be a benefit, I would have thought that would create a negative effect on performance.
Tamtamtam to ProjectChaos
21 Jan 16#33
A surprising number of games see little or no benefit to being loaded on an SSD.
Sogaaddict
16 Jan 16#31
Don't be silly. See Spudzy's comment. Nothing to do with bottle half empty/full.
jamiesmith85
16 Jan 161#26
Sata SSD is plenty fast for most use cases think this is an enthusiast part
KnightInd2000 to jamiesmith85
16 Jan 16#30
I think that's very true!
Sogaaddict
16 Jan 16#29
Well yes, it is dependent on what you do on the PC, like having various pieces of very expensive but amazing software, for the average Joe though (me) SATA SSD's are just fine.
rev6
16 Jan 16#28
What does that even mean :smile:
fleagal
16 Jan 162#16
these things are great, as long as you specify the compatible parts. I built a PC for a family member for Christmas with one of these for a system drive and a secondary ssd for a second drive. the numbers say it all..
If you are looking at getting this just to make booting and using windows faster than you must have a lot of disposable income. I envy you.
There's many use cases where a single standard SSD is literally too slow. These NVME SSDs are fantastic and when you compare them to RAID 0'ing multiple SATA SSDs to get the speed you need, the price is pretty cheap too.
garry_williams
16 Jan 161#24
Bought this for £320 the week it was released - it's boom fast. Heat.
Sogaaddict
16 Jan 16#20
Seems to be a lot of hassle, not to mention money, to gain some seconds in booting up etc.
rev6 to Sogaaddict
16 Jan 16#22
Quicker OS drives aren't just for bootup times. But the benefits from a standard SATA SSD to a PCI-E SSD, I guess it depends what you do on the PC.
hitman007 to Sogaaddict
16 Jan 16#23
Glass always half empty?
chicaneuk
16 Jan 16#21
I know Apple take a lot of flak on here but my two and a half year old MacBook Air has one of these types of SSD and the speed is incredible. It makes up I am sure for some of the defecit in overall horsepower because of being a slim ultrabook.
I see both read and write speeds according to the disk benchmark tool of 730MB/sec!
I guess not that fast by today's standards but when I got it that was crazy speed.
fleagal
16 Jan 161#19
I used a new install of Win 10 which started up within seconds so I had no metric upon which to base it's performance. I would guess it took around 8 seconds to get to the login screen with the wifi connected (something which win 10 does somehow).
I regretted handing over the PC as it makes mine look quite sad!
bogglesmith2
16 Jan 161#17
Well then, apparently they split their only prophylactic. Read the Anandtech review. They throttle under stress, and heatsinks do make a difference.
nublets2k
16 Jan 162#15
It has thermal throttling instead of cooling. The drive's controller has the capacity to slow it down, being CPU technology and all that.
spudzy
15 Jan 164#9
You really need to do your research here for this one it's not like adding a normal SSD
1) Make sure you have the right slot on your motherboard or get a PCIE adapter (which is just as fast as motherboard slot)
2) Make sure that your motherboard supports the full bandwidth PCIE 3.0 x4 rather than x2 or else you wont get the full speed out of the memory
3) Make sure your bios is NVME compatible not just AHCI
4) make sure you have adequate cooling for this which they don't make easy because they void warranted for removing the sticker across the memory modules. Otherwise you can run up against thermal throttling (slowing down when it gets hot). I made a little custom heat spreader with a small piece of copper plate I go from ebay and thermal grease under the motherboard it also makes contact with the case further cooling the memory really works a treat.
5) Make sure you unplug other storage drive before installing window on it
The drive is blazing fast and it does make a difference on booting windows 10 and loading games I have the 250gb version of this drive with ASROCK Z170 Gaming-ITX/AC motherboard. seeing I was putting it in an ITX case. Speed test show I'm getting full speed and the 500GB version is even a little faster.
torquatus to spudzy
16 Jan 16#13
torquatus to spudzy
16 Jan 16#14
I'm sure this would receive adequate passive cooling in most systems, in that dedicated cooling would be a little overboard. Thermal throttling is a CPU technology, which have different dissipation requirements, and the slowing down you mention is probably due to another CPU/mobo power saving scheme - these drives simply do not have the capacity to 'slow down' based on thermal sensation. If this needed cooling it would come with a pre-fitted heatsink as a minimum solution, or else at least appear as an advisory. Probably why they don't sell them in metal cases not unlike SSDs! Agree with most of your points but thought I had to flag this up as memory is Samsung's business, they know what they are doing. If they put a sticker over it, it's for a reason. It's their only condom.
EvilMatt
15 Jan 161#12
To be fair I have my OS and programs on my SSD and my games and Steam Library on a mechanical drive. I've never had any problems.
hitman007
15 Jan 16#11
Most store the OS on SSD and the games on HDD. Seems such a long time since I've had the OS on a HDD.
taras
15 Jan 16#10
oh and you need a uefi bios too..
m.2 is confusing because of the sizing scheme.. plus pcie2 and pcie3 (even though that dosen't matter as much)
rev6
15 Jan 161#8
:confused:
jasee
15 Jan 162#7
Duuh! Didn't I say that???????
Gkains
15 Jan 162#6
Missing from the OP is the all important physical size as M.2 slots are a complete mess:
This 2280 so that's 80mm long. Aside from being PCIe and not SATA, a lot of laptops would not be physically be able to fit these.
Like I said, M.2 is real mess of a specification. My current favourite example being the HP Elitebook 840 G1/G2 (think 820 and 850 would be the same), where HP despite having 60mm space decided to only give a 42mm slot, which they changed in the G2 revision despite their otherwise identical layout:
Anyway this probably all academic since aside from being PCIe these have 8.9W peak power consumption and are probably not suitable for ultrabooks and probably require some kind of cooling: http://anandtech.com/show/9702/samsung-950-pro-ssd-review-256gb-512gb
Not voted either way.
rev6
15 Jan 16#5
Depends on the game but I don't think even SATA SSD's are worth it in most cases for games compared to the £/GB HDD's give us at the moment.
hitman007
15 Jan 16#4
On paper these drives should be quick, but not sure that they make that much difference to game load times?
jasee
15 Jan 16#2
Your motherboard has to support them, if not you can buy adapters but I don't think they run as fast?
Opening post
Now if you are only comparing cost/GB to ordinary SSD's then you will probably have already clicked on cold by now(!) but if you're want, and can afford, the best then I've not seen these cheaper than this.
(maybe I should see what I can flog on ebay to raise some funds?)
Top comments
1) Make sure you have the right slot on your motherboard or get a PCIE adapter (which is just as fast as motherboard slot)
2) Make sure that your motherboard supports the full bandwidth PCIE 3.0 x4 rather than x2 or else you wont get the full speed out of the memory
3) Make sure your bios is NVME compatible not just AHCI
4) make sure you have adequate cooling for this which they don't make easy because they void warranted for removing the sticker across the memory modules. Otherwise you can run up against thermal throttling (slowing down when it gets hot). I made a little custom heat spreader with a small piece of copper plate I go from ebay and thermal grease under the motherboard it also makes contact with the case further cooling the memory really works a treat.
5) Make sure you unplug other storage drive before installing window on it
The drive is blazing fast and it does make a difference on booting windows 10 and loading games I have the 250gb version of this drive with ASROCK Z170 Gaming-ITX/AC motherboard. seeing I was putting it in an ITX case. Speed test show I'm getting full speed and the 500GB version is even a little faster.
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/xrp3nm5cgfkhxos/benchmark.png?dl=0
There's many use cases where a single standard SSD is literally too slow. These NVME SSDs are fantastic and when you compare them to RAID 0'ing multiple SATA SSDs to get the speed you need, the price is pretty cheap too.
I see both read and write speeds according to the disk benchmark tool of 730MB/sec!
I guess not that fast by today's standards but when I got it that was crazy speed.
I regretted handing over the PC as it makes mine look quite sad!
1) Make sure you have the right slot on your motherboard or get a PCIE adapter (which is just as fast as motherboard slot)
2) Make sure that your motherboard supports the full bandwidth PCIE 3.0 x4 rather than x2 or else you wont get the full speed out of the memory
3) Make sure your bios is NVME compatible not just AHCI
4) make sure you have adequate cooling for this which they don't make easy because they void warranted for removing the sticker across the memory modules. Otherwise you can run up against thermal throttling (slowing down when it gets hot). I made a little custom heat spreader with a small piece of copper plate I go from ebay and thermal grease under the motherboard it also makes contact with the case further cooling the memory really works a treat.
5) Make sure you unplug other storage drive before installing window on it
The drive is blazing fast and it does make a difference on booting windows 10 and loading games I have the 250gb version of this drive with ASROCK Z170 Gaming-ITX/AC motherboard. seeing I was putting it in an ITX case. Speed test show I'm getting full speed and the 500GB version is even a little faster.
m.2 is confusing because of the sizing scheme.. plus pcie2 and pcie3 (even though that dosen't matter as much)
This 2280 so that's 80mm long. Aside from being PCIe and not SATA, a lot of laptops would not be physically be able to fit these.
Like I said, M.2 is real mess of a specification. My current favourite example being the HP Elitebook 840 G1/G2 (think 820 and 850 would be the same), where HP despite having 60mm space decided to only give a 42mm slot, which they changed in the G2 revision despite their otherwise identical layout:
Anyway this probably all academic since aside from being PCIe these have 8.9W peak power consumption and are probably not suitable for ultrabooks and probably require some kind of cooling:
http://anandtech.com/show/9702/samsung-950-pro-ssd-review-256gb-512gb
Not voted either way.