Sony Z range are simply brilliant phones

Sorry where have you gotten the Idea that refurbished is related to the software?

Refurbished means to renovate or recondition, meaning to make it appear better than it was..

With electronics, refurbished generally is a term to explain its been return to as close as new condition.. but it in no way means it will be like new..

grade B generally you can expect some use, light marks etc.. screens are generally good condition.

You get grades fro example

OPEN BOX - usually brand new, just box is opened, or contents removed and replaced.

A, A1, A+ - Usually Mint condition, may have slight signs of use.

B, C, D, Scratched, Scratch & Dent - these are where the product will exhibit use in varying degrees.

If I didn't already have a Z2 I'd be all over this. Hot

You are seriously having a laugh trying to compare a grabe B against a refurbished from a reliable supplier.

Mine arrived today - unmarked and in original box. Getting warm as it is downloading all my apps but not as hot as I expected from the claims. Beautiful phone, certainly keeping it. Thanks to the original poster of the deal.

​how dya figure that, the only difference is a smaller battery and a slightly improved camera....

Me personally won't touch anything that has been refurbished, how dare me. :laughing:

Listing for the z3+ now gone from the todayonly page and price is now £215.16 + delivery

Bought Moto X Play for £211 with 15% student discount from Motorola instead. Amazing battery life on it which is what I really want.

Was thinking about buying it but I've seen the all overheating complaints.

£215 from CEX, not refurbished, grade B Here

I guess if you can return it if not happy then its okay.

Argos clearance bargains put me off refurbs when I had a look at the Z2's they had and each one was covered in scratches. Presumed the battery would have been well used too, so i just bought new.

It's actually not a bad review.
The bloke is a bit of a **** though

The original xperia Z has been superceded by the Z1, Z2, Z3 and Z3+ so you get all of the improvements in each of the incremental upgrades in one go. I have the Z1 and that's enough different from the Z to be worth it. It'll be thinner, lighter, better display, better battery and faster chip.

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/sony-xperia-z3plus-quad-core-smartphone-3gb-ram-32gb-storage-full-hd-52-ips-screen-20mp-camera-4k-vi

You could press Ctrl+F and search "z3+" to find it.

direct link?

can't find it on the 'today only' page

I own the original Xperia Z. What benefits do I get from upgrading to this?

I think he's just a school kid

They also found his tinfoil hat for him so he should be ok again once its back on his little head and has his meds.

Lol, what are you smoking???

Everything great about this phone apart from the camera.

I've had a call from your village,can you return home,they want their idiot back.

I just rang them and they said they are pretty much as new handsets come in a brown box with charger headphones USB cable and manuals just not original box

Don't buy this phone. The overheating is a real issue and drains the battery life badly. Camera is buggy, poor audio quality. Read the Amazon reviews

The term refurbished doesn't mean what it used to mean, nothing can really be fixed anymore and you can't even take these phones apart easily so the notion these have been repaired is somewhat untrue. They basically gave it a clean and reset the software... so if the exterior is trashed it will be trashed.

Hi

Very good review. Still has heating issues even after a update. Shame, as I really like this phone. Ah well, looks like I'll be sticking to my refurbished (like new when I got it, so nothing wrong with refurbished phones) Nexus 4.

Great phones still very happy with my z1. No reason to upgrade its still brilliant, battery life is amazing. Probably just wait for z5 to drop in price.

Never go full ****!

To actually get back on point,

I've had my z3+ from launch date and it's been a great phone, yes the "overheating" issue is still on it but given its waterproof just dunk it in the sink for a few seconds, I genuinely couldn't consider upgrading to the Z5 apart from a fingerprint scanner and a slightly better camera the Z3+ packs just as much if not more than the Z5 std.

Your very misinformed. Refurbished can also mean a customer has returned a no fault unwanted item (retailers can't resell as new). Also i would be happy to buy i.e a refurbished phone that was a week old that developed a fault and was fixed and resold (you get the same warranty as the manufacturer).

Potential alternative here though, if you fancy a risk http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/meizu-mx4-pro-4g-lte-5-5-inch-16gb-146-99-banggood-2k-qhd-lte-no-800mhz-16gb-storage-2372988

Get two of these and you'll have rechargeable toastie makers.

Refurbished means the software was knackered but it's been repaired, therefore not new and it depends how good of a repair was done on it, no where near new. I'd rather have a B Grade than refurbished for piece of mind

​Thank God, finally somebody who knows what they are talking about.

aren't t sony xperias known for being slow?

the battery on these phones are amazing!

Now i feel like You dont really know what You are talking about.

Whereas yours could be blocked by the network because it was nicked...

:laughing::laughing::laughing: you troll, i wouldn't want a refurbished phone just as much as one that has been dropped in water and dried. Refurbished means its had something done to it like for example the software reinstalled. And how dare me question if that was done professionally or not. Who knows, you could be going back to the shop with technical errors two weeks later

I do have a z2 and I'm tempted....

I voted hot if that brightens your day :smiley:

Ok whatever you say. I will post when I get a reply from Scan to confirm condition of their refurbs, perhaps a poster with some previous experience can confirm though.

When the software fails you, you'll be wishing you bought new or second hand.

Oh dear. I know refurbished isn't new. These are likely to be customer returns in the original box. Refurbished however would suggest that some action has been taken to improve the condition of a used item, rather than a Grade B from CEX which will show pretty significant signs of use. Bless you.

Refurbished is worse than second hand. Don't make the mistake of thinking refurbished is new. :neutral_face:

Indeed, yours is grade B, which just means second hand.

How? This is refurbished and the one i posted is not

anyone confirm if an update had helped/fixed the overheating?

Bit of a lemon this, personally I'd either go for a Z3 or wait till the Z5 drops in price a bit more.

also, be aware of pink color/tint issues when photographing red colours...

Sony Z range are simply brilliant phones

If I didn't already have a Z2 I'd be all over this. Hot