I did think that, but I thought if it was like the other ports, it would have just been in parallel like the rest. Weird really.

It's not a powered hub. It's a normal 4 port hub. The port on the side is just another port.

ok, this is the USB Hub I got from Poundworld that worked ..

No just saying, as there has been allot of discussion on this.

I need to get a powered hub, as i want to run additional usb product. Bit miners
,but for now a hub like this would suit me fine. Where did you get it?

Ok, i'm drawing a line under this now. I used that hub to connect my wireless keyboard and mouse and my wireless dongle to my Pi Zero and it worked fine. end of story. believe it if you want to or not, i don't care. i did it, it happened, it worked. reply if you want to but this is my final say on the matter.

I am saying that generally these hubs dont get enough power from the pi, to power other devices.

i don't really care if you believe it or not - why exactly would i lie about it ?

I cant quite believe that, What are your peripherals then? as wifi is power hungry

well i ran wifi, a mouse and a keyboard on it so i guess that answers your question ..

So are there any good hubs, which work with a pi, that dont provide back power, and under £15 then?

It did both of them perfectly fine. I don't intend to use the hub for anything particular and probably will get a properly powered one if i do need one, but i just wanted to see if i could get it online and a quid seemed like a perfect amount to punt :smiley:

Surely the hub would not have enough power to do both of those

Thanks for taking the time to explain :smiley:

no, didn't need it powered for what I plugged in to it, which was a wireless receiver for a keyboard and mouse and wireless dongle for Internet access.

obviously anything above that would need to be powered I assume - I'll post a picture of the one I got when I get home

The Poundland (Signalex) ones work for very light loads like a mouse/keyboard.
But powered ones are better, there's a verified hardware wiki page here, I can't even tell you what mine is as it is unbranded China one and cost £5 or so.

What hub did you use?

got one the last time. if anyone is interested, you can actually get a usb hub from poundland that works just fine on these - had mine all hooked up and online using one.

As you said "original" the B had 256MB. They went to 512MB from Rev 2.

And that guy's random blog post? I would be here all day if I was to list what's wrong with that. It's just some random bloke's opinion.
His reason for saying its next to useless for hardware interfacing is because you might have to solder to connect to the IO. Well that's what the thing is all about, learning stuff, including soldering which is part and parcel of hardware and thats the reason if you buy the cable kit from the Pi Swag store it includes the IO pins. So he is just plain wrong and that's among the stupidest things I've ever seen written about it. I notice that some of the commenters on the article have pulled him up about it, the best comment being "I will hacking around the limitations, or as some call them, opportunities."

His conclusion at the end, that a Pi2B would be much better for a first time user I would agree with, but he has missed the point of the Zero. Completely.

It has the exact same memory as the B unless like me you had one of the release models.

Also unless your going to do software only things on it its next to useless.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/why-raspberry-pi-zero-isnt-you-mark-niemann-ross

out of stock now... it was only left as a essential kit plus 8gb mem card but even those have run out... got myself 2 somehow

It's a computer. So you might use one in a situation where you want to program a computer to do a task but it is small uses very little power, runs quiet (no fan) and cool.
Little media playback boxes for entertainment is a popular use, though not their intended one. At the office where I work several are used to drive big information screens, and also as bar code reader terminals.

A lot of people tinker for a hobby, as it has useful hardware connectors on it, the Pi can be programmed to electrically control other devices. It has a cool HD camera interface (direct to the main graphics processor, not USB).
Many use them on high altitude balloon flights, and there are a couple (Model B+) on the international space station involved in school projects.

That's really only the tip of the iceberg. If you are interested in making things or learning about tech then they can do a lot, the support network in the internet is huge, and the money raised from their sale goes to charity to further tech education.

OOS now but get 10% of a Pi2 with code NOZERO

got one with 8GB card

It's got double the memory and the processor runs faster than the original Pi B and double the memory of the original Pi A, it's got less connectivity compared to the original ones, but it's £4 so compared to the £15 and £25 that the original A and B cost, there really is no valid case for criticism for being "cut down".

And I haven't heard about it being criticised for being "cut down". The only complaints I've heard are about the supply and how difficult it is to get hold of them.

I think they're ideal for making a small internet radio in my opinion.

This guy has KODI running on his.

Bought one for the heck of it (managed to get one without the overpriced SD card)

To be fair the zero has been slated a bit by even the enthusiasts for being even more cut down than the original models.

Just get the RP2 or I am sure the older models will be chap on ebay!

OOS, unless you choose with kit and 8GB card, which totally costs £16. Well, £6 extra for the kit may not too bad, but £6 for an 8GB card? Hey!

Base model was sold out and the one with the basic kit. I did manage to get one with the sd card and basic set for £16.

I've looked at the Wiki page for any clue what they might be useful for, but just got absolutely blinded by science

Try building stuff with Raspbian and Wia (https://www.wia.io).

Thanks for the heads up.

I couldn't order the £4 one but it let me order it with the essentials kits - so cost £12.50 altogether.

Got an idea that I wanted to use it for.

Oos :disappointed:

I have still yet to figure out what these are / do

Are these good for a basic media server for video playback? If so can someone point to guide and advise what extras I'd need? Thanks.

Why not buy one of the phat extension boards to go with (along with rca sockets and a case) to go with it? You'll have go get it from pironi though.

Cool little things. Not really a deal though as 4 quid is the standard price.

How good would these be for OSMC? I already have a Pi2 but could use it for something else...

Just bought one via PayPal checkout

They released more stock.

Edit: No, thought they did but I think it's just a backorder.
£16 ones including 8GB card and cables are showing now.

Managed to get one with the essentials kit

I just purchased one, they still in stock.

Just ordered...thanks op

Missed them again. -_-

£4 ones are sold out already.

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OOS at checkout.

Birthday present sorted! Thanks op :smiley:

no it's not. it's only oos if you choose 16gb card

Oos

thanks op, wanted one for Xmas but no-one took the bait ;-)

£2.50 delivery