Poor poor poor

We get this every month. If you don't like it, don't click on the link and then post about it. Simple as that.

​Wrong.

Plenty of people still do. Im guessing most people with a Vita exclusively play the + games instead of buying retail.

I guess we'll have to wait until next month for Knack...

Hardware Rivals looked promising, what they delivered is the most boring game ever made.

Woo hoo Grim Fandango Remastered!! :smile:

Poor poor poor

I was going to post this about 20 minutes ago. Expect it to get some yawning comments about waiting for official blog to update with full list.

Heat added

Grim Fandango is great, I bought it at half price and only played a tiny bit of it....I really should stop buying these titles when I don't have time to play them :smiley:

Grim fandango looks like it might be decent but are these games together really ps plus material, definitely not.

so Xbox gets KI and we get this crap. I was really hoping for a AAA this Jan I guess Sony no longer cares as they have their base now. Before anyone argues I know GF is a good game but I bought it about 12 years ago and have no desire to play it again

Nice couple of games next month! Good show Playstation! :smiley:

I guess we'll have to wait until next month for Knack...

This is excellent but just like the official blog you have whiners going "where's our triple A games" I much prefer this than Knack which is meant to be mediocre and most likely range around £5 next year.

Grim Fandango is worthy so pleased about that, didn't try the hardware rivals demo so no idea about that one.

Hopefully this year we'll get some bigger games though - Tomb Raider, Black Flag, Second Son to name but three!

Excellent update, Hardware will benefit from the instant userbase like Rocket League did and is a fun trip back to the origins of online PS gaming. Grim Fandango has always been acclaimed and I expect a lot of people to enjoy that.
One of the best months for a while.

Grim Fandango is great (got the platinum), but it's not for everyone. It's a bizarre game and the puzzle solutions/story progression requirements are often FAR from obvious. That said it's a hilarious game with a lot of meat on the bones and if you were a fan of the original you'd probably appreciate a re-play with updated graphics and controls.

I tried the Hardware beta and wasn't massively impressed, horrible controls and camera. It was a beta though so hopefully improved. Grim Fandango is great, but I picked it up when it launched with a plus discount, as I suspect a lot of people did. Interested to see what the PS3 and Vita offerings are, as they're keeping them quiet.

I don't understand how this is a deal. Anyone signed up to PS+ would have had that same email this morning.

Very poor. Xbox One users get four games per month.

It's a logical opinion. It isn't a deal. And someone gets heat for it, when later in the day people will vote massively cold on an actual deal just because they don't like the game?

welcome to the murky HUKD world of Xbox Games With Gold and Playstation Plus deals.

Difference is, Xbox users get 4 games for the Xbox One.

I didn't say it's not a logical opinion; I said we've done this to death. If you have no chance of getting the post taken down, or changing our opinions, what's the point in you posting? If you're sad that someone else is getting some internet points I'd be happy to give you some heat on a fake deal you want to post. Or I could send you an e-card with a pony on it.

I'm not on here to try to get cheap laughs (pointlessly) or to be rude like some. I'm on here to save a bit of money like everyone else. I'm out.

These aren't my cup of tea :disappointed: I generally find about half of the games on Plus I keep on my machine and the other half I try out and delete. It's still worth the money if you can get a good deal on the year sub. I got my last for £20 using a retailer discount code

HOT but after disappoiting playstation exclusives (driveclub, the order etc.) and PS+ games not being that special.. decided to sell my PS4 and stick to my xbox one.. no trolls but wondering if others feel as disappointed as I do?

Have they replaced the 360 offerings with Xbox One titles now? Missed that announcement. That's a bit naff for the 360 owners. :disappointed:

Nah, just all games for the 360 GWG games are now backwards compatible with the Xbox One. SO you still get 2 xbox 360 games and 2 xbox one games. But all 4 are playable on the Xbox One

So its still not as good as 6 games right ?

Ha, I was just messing with you. In fairness though, in an age of remasters and definitive editions. It is nice to see a group of gamers excited to play last generations games every month.

(For the record, I own an Xbox One, I just don't subscribe to XBL.)

Also, just to add to this thread, and it is just rumour at this point. Borderlands 2 was mentioned for the PSVita.

2 for Vita, 2 for PS3 isn't it?

Grim fandango had plus written all over it, never bought it as knew it would turn up eventually.

Every PS owner got an email about these poor games today. Cold.

Generally, but it always ends up that most games are cross buy as all the indie ones they give you can be played on all systems most of the time

^This. December was the first time in ages there had only been two PS4 games in the month; we got five in May

been looking at picking GF up but have been hopeful it would turn up here. Chuffed!

As PS+ is needed for PS4 multiplayer there is no business incentive to give away £50 games every month. The same can't be said for PS3/Vita though, but there was a period of great games like Arkham Asylum, Assassins Creed 3, Tomb Raider. Hopefully there will be more titles like these on the way.

Can't wait for Hardware: Rivals.:sunglasses:
Loved Hardware: Online Arena on PS2 but it never got the attention it deserved, much like the PS2's online service in general. Was starting to think there would never be an update until they announced this recently.
Hopefully a PS+ release at launch will have a similar effect to Rocket League. :smile:
Hardware: Rivals is a system seller for me (unusual candidate I know) as I've not got a PS4 yet.

Was hoping Grim Fandango would show up too. Intrigued what the PS3 and Vita titles will be.

Exactly. Nobody uses the Xbox 360, PS3 or Vita any more.

These PS+ posts are basically the same as someone on Facebook desperate for cheap "likes".

Everyone on PS+ gets an email. Absolutely pointless post.

​Wrong.

Plenty of people still do. Im guessing most people with a Vita exclusively play the + games instead of buying retail.

People who say Grim Fandango is a poor choice don't deserve to call themselves gamers

I use my ps4 ps3 and my vita

Exactly.
I have never bought a game for my Vita, yet have an extensive library of good games for it including many I would not have looked twice at if not for PS+

honestly thats not bad at all.

​But if you're not a Plus member you won't get the email, so it's a potential deal for non-Plus members? That's my thinking anyway, apologies if you disagree.

In December we only 1 & 1/5 of a game for PS4.

​i use my vita all the time as i can play ps4 games like fallout 4 at work or anywhere i go.

Grim Fandango is an amazing game. Hardware rivals was Hardware Online Arena on the PS2 and I played the beta and was impressed. few bugs needing ironed out but looking good. I wish they had re mastered the original hardware soundtrack as it was catchy then and still is now.

Good month for Ps4.

PS+ is not like it used to be, awful games every month now.

Was gonna enter my new ps plus year code yesterday but will now wait to see what the February games are. Have no interest at all in the ps4 titles this month.

Grim Fandango HD (and Day Of The Tentacle HD) are the games that actually make me interested in a PS4. FYI, if you have a PC Grim Fandango is in the current Steam Sale for peanuts

I agree. The exclusive lines ups have been pretty poor but xbox1 is certainly no better than ps4. It's not my type of game but Bloodborne is easily the best critically acclaimed exclusive.

Third party games run slightly better on ps4 thanon xbox1 so i don't know how he can be disappointed with ps4 and not xbox1.

Bloodbourne appealed to a very small minority of people and quickly disappeared into the bargain bins.

As for the PS4 running 3rd party titles better that may been the case 2 years ago when both consoles first came out but it's not really the case now. Major 3rd party games like Fallout 4 and the Witcher 3 ran or did run better on the Xb1 at launch. Even now there's still major frame rate problems with Fallout 4 on the PS4.

It's as someone said earlier, Sony establish a lead then slack off and allow the opposition to catch up and that's exactly what's happened in the last year.

Killer Instincts.

Glad I held off on Grim Fandango when it was at £6. Hardware Rivals looks good too. PS+ has been dire over the past couple of months (typically just after I'd got a membership).

My pairing is an XBOX 360 and PS4, even managed to upgrade the hard drive on the PS4 to 2TB for £60.

Very very poor. The PS3 days of PSN Plus were fantastic - full retail games that were around 2 years old and some good games that I'd never considered playing before and really enjoyed. It's all gone downhill with the PS4 - can't think of a single full game that's been provided as part of PSN Plus for the PS4, and there's a decent catalogue now.

That's not to say I don't enjoy the Indie games, such as Don't Starve, but Sony don't seem to be offering anywhere near the value they used to.

As I don't really play online I've not continued my subscription after it lapsed in July. I keep waiting for a decent month of games, but they never come.... could be a while.

Recently bought Grim Fandango, what a game that is. Also

Bloodborne's the game of this generation. I have an xbox one and a ps4 and fallout4 does not run better on the xbox one.

Virtually everything you've said is utter tripe. Bloodborne sold millions and it's not in the bargain bins at all. Eurogamer's Digital Foundry STILL has PS4 outperforming Xbox One almost every single time. The patch for FO4 helped PS4 but Xbox One still has issues. PS4 is still outselling Xbox One by 2:1 - Microsoft still don't even release hardware sales and instead use (snigger) Xbox Live accounts. They haven't caught up and most likely never will.

Smells like fanboy.

Lord, We Are Grateful For What We Receive.

thanks ,yeah just found it , its jans freebie. found it listed here with all the others to date http://www.tekrevue.com/complete-xbox-games-with-gold-list-details/

Killer Instinct

I remember getting at least 1 big name title on PS3 and a couple of indie games before the PS4 came out, there used to be free avatars plus free exclusive themes. Don't get any of that, all small games and not seen any avatars or themes on the PS4 PS+

But I still love it for the extra discounts on games when there is a sale :smiley:

Wish someone could tell me where I could get Bloodborne from the 'bargain bins' as I have been waiting for it to come down for ages and it is holding its price (save for a fabled HMV deal which no one else could find). No doubt the poster above who made this statement can help me out and tell me where to go because I have been keeping a very close eye on Bloodborne prices everywhere- including foreign PS stores and very few games have held their value like this one.

Bloodborne pre owned prices are okay, have a nose around the shops

i own both consoles, i got the ps4 as i love my jrpg/rpg games and since the ps3 was the home to such games last gen it made sense. But now having owned both consoles since release i have to say the xbox one is used a whole lot more than my ps4, the pad and on-line services on the xbox are better,the community seems far better too.

i have just bought r6 siege and star wars on xbox one despite owning both (digitally) on ps4, both games are more fun on-line on the one. Also nothing beats that feeling you get when you unlock an achievement :smiley:

i have no plans to get rid of my ps4 despite it been a disappointment (for me at least) this year bar rocket league and FFVII as it looks to have solid 2016 coming up.

Are you sure this is correct? I don't see Killzone mentioned any where :wink:

Grim indeed

was hoping for Tomb Raider Definitive Edition... been tempted to buy it for a couple of months now but i know when i buy it will become free on PS+

You can, I will never play it.

These posts are helpful for me as I've got a PS+ subscription ready to be activated, but I'm still waiting to hear about some good games being added before I do so - used to be a non-brainer back in the PS3 days, but IMO I'm happy to wait at the moment.

Anyone know the ps3 games yet. The rumourmills are suggesting good things!

That is just full of nonsense, the only part of it I think is true is that, at release, witcher 3 ran worse on PS4, but even that is patched to run better now. As for Fallout 4, it showed us just how low some of the gaming community could go - I remember the pre-release reports of frame rate drops on the PS4 and the xbox players making videos and mocking PS4 players, thing was that once it released the xbox performed even worse. I'd rather both versions ran fine, but even I've got to admit that made me laugh a bit. Here is digital foundry's verdict at release
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-fallout-4-performance-analysis
and after the patch things seemed to only get better for PS4 users
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-fallout-4-patch-102-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly
if you have any other reliable sources that could refute that feel free to post them.

As for Bloodborne, I wouldn't call the Soul's series niche any more, it has a decent sized following and general reports indicate it selling somewhere in the 1-2 million units mark, but we can't be sure as sales figures were never officially released. It has also kept its value far better than most titles and it is hard to find the base game for less than £25, if we compare that to Halo 5 or RotTR you could get them at £25 each within a month of release (albeit as a 2 for £50 deal).

To be clear I don't think either console has the games yet that make it stand out from the other console, although I do feel the PS4 is in a stronger position in general with the slightly better hardware (which should widen the gap further now they have also unlocked the 7th core for devs) and a potentially more interesting line up of games for my tastes over the next couple of years (I feel xbox still caters more for the action/shooting gaming crowd, whereas Sony promises a more mixed set of genres in their exclusives).

We've already had our GOTY with Rocket League, so I guess I can't really complain.

Quite enjoyed the beta for Hardware Rivals.

I have been waiting for Grim Fandango as i didn't want to pay for it but i played the beta of Hardware rivals and it was awful. I think the devs have looked at Rocket Leagues success and think they can as well but the Hardware rivals is terrible.

Thanks - this reminded me to cancel my PS+ renewal.

it's personal preference, I have ps3,pc, xbox 360 and got my ps4 because fed up of red ring death which always happened. got a ps4, just downloaded gauntlet, wow...loved it. ignore the trolls, they need get a girlfriend or boyfriend (being politically correct

No wonder Sony abandoned the Vita. They have cheapskates living off PS Plus games lol.

Sorry, it's an ongoing joke. Every month people joke about it being the free Plus game... next month. For what it's worth, I already have Knack and quite enjoyed it. Not exactly a system seller though.

Cheers OP I don't receive the emails for gold and plus and find them on here every month. So ignore the whingers who have the option to not click it and comment .

TBH i wish Bloodborne had disappeared into the bargin bins as i really should at least try it but like u said it's one of the few games that has held it's price quite well, he's wrong about everything else too.

Just because she has a remote control for the oven to make my dinner , doesn't make her a gamer :smile:

Hardware Rivals gonna be a PS+ title at launch???

This is gonna be the next Rocket League

I bet Sony is going to take as long as possible for Knack to be free. They probably get a kick out of this running joke people predicting it every month.

yh im just going to wait it out .... going to get MGS V instead today.. i only have black ops 3 lol

If anyone remembers, when PS+ first came out on PS3, they were giving us these same crappy games, it was only in maybe the PS3's last 2-3 years of life that they started giving us proper AAA titles, that's why I think we're going to have to wait at least another year before PS4's PS Plus quality matches PS3's quality.

I knew it was an ongoing thing on here, but thought you were being serious haha! I enjoyed it too. It's not amazing, but it's a fun little game. I can see why it still sells.

Well I played the beta too and enjoyed it
And that was just with the limited beta stuff too, looking forward to the full game with all the content and maps etc

Where is cack...I mean Knack?

Nah in all seriousness those two I will check out.

Well hopefully your right. I didn't give it much of a chance so i'll give it another go and maybe it will become a sleeper hit like Rocket league became.

PS+ was introduced about 4-5 yrs after PS3 released so it was easier to out out aaa games on PS+, PS4 is only 2 yrs old and people expecting huge games

I've just had a ps4 for xmas and the games they give you with ps plus are absolutely terrible on my xbox one I've had games such as assassins creed theif this month and these are the games they give us disappointed

List of PS+ games here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Instant_Game_Collection_games_(PAL_region)#PlayStation_4 plenty of quality titles. Anybody would think MS give away AAA titles every month on the X1 going by these comments, seriously!

I don't understand how PS+ being introduced 4-5 years after PS3 release is relevant. In the last year or two before the PS4 was launched Sony were giving away AAA game that was 9 to 18 months old each month and games were generally all under 2 years old. The time before then isn't relevant because they were only giving away games released in the last two years. When PS+ was introduced at launch on PS4 it was too new to expect AAA games, but it has been over two years now so the excuse that it hasn't been out for long enough isn't valid. They now have the same range of games available as they did in the "good days" of PS+ to offer on PS4 but they don't.

Even on PS3 the perceived value has nose dived as the titles being given away now are older than the ones being given away in the golden days before PS4 launch!

It seems clear to me we are never going to get a return to those golden days, as PS+ is mandatory on PS4 for online Sony no longer see the need to make the "free" game selection include big name titles with broad appeal and instead concentrate on smaller titles which might score good reviews but have more limited appeal

Plenty of good titles, problem is Sony are giving away lots of good titles with limited appeal, whereas Microsoft have included more games with mass market appeal. The mass market games might be "worse", but a lot of people enjoy playing them to a greater or lesser extent while the Sony offerings are more marmite, loved by critics and some players but a lot of people just don't like them at all as they aren't their cup of tea.

Jeez.. What's taking them so long to announce PS3 and Vita games..

I get that but on a personal note I have played Resogun far more than any of my X1 offerings for example so maybe people should play before judging. People just go on about AAA this AAA that when a lot of AAA arent all that. Its all subjective anyway

Got a 12 month membership waiting to be used at home however I left scratching my head as I'm playing for free on my ps4 online at the mo not gonna use the plus until I need to no point at the mo also got a £20 psn credit I have not used yet too :-)

Hopefully they'll be something I want to play on vita and ps3

For those commenting on the totally incorrect info that it is found in bargain bins (it isn't, it held it's value and has been very difficult to find cheaply) and who want to pick Bloodborne up, it's dropped to about 16 quid on PSN Canada. Setting up my account today..

You only get 6 if you have all systems. The 360 ones are BC with X1 so you get 4 games to play if you have their newest system. And XBL costs less.

Gotta agree with everyone complaining about these games. This is simply taking the ****. Grim Fandango was awesome in 1998, don't get me wrong, but come on. It's time to mix some retail with the indies now. Stop penny pinching, splash the cash and get some bigger games on board now, at least MS have started to get their act together. Never thought I'd say that.

Here’s the full list of great titles that await you on 5th January:

Hardware: Rivals (PS4)
Grim Fandango Remastered (PS4)
Dragon Age: Origins (PS3)
Medal of Honor: Warfighter (PS3)
Nihilumbra (PS Vita)
Legends of War: Patton (PS Vita)

my decision to not renew two weeks ago is because of rubbish games like this, overall balance of games has been poor and recently embarrassed by Microsoft who actually let you keep your games

ps plus used to be awesome, now you really are just paying to play online

Legends of war is awesome! Was gonna re buy!

There's always going to be negative comments, you can't please everyone. Grim Fandango is a fantastic game and if you haven't played it, now's your chance. Looking forward to Hardware Rivals, not heard much about this one.

Thanks to mods for updating!

Woooooo another cheap puzzle platformer, another round of ancient EA games and another PSP game.

I can finally play Grim Fandango, atleast..

I'm sure Grim Fandango is cross buy as well so should get the Vita version.

PCGameSupply sells some Canada or US PSN Credit, there are some other places you can get it too like cdkeys or eBay sometimes or amazon us etc

https://mobile.pcgamesupply.com/catalog/product/PlayStation-Network-20-Card-CANADA

Just bought Dragon Age Origins which is on sale... Very cheeky to put on PS plus I think

Wow, you wrote all of that and Then called HIM a fanboy!?

Haha

I'm of the same opinion here. Tbh I didn't see the point in backward compatibility but now it is looking like a pretty good feature. True, I get 6 games a month, but I can't play 4 of em. Not that I'm saying Sony should cater for me alone, but the fact that xbone owners can play 4 games is pretty good.

There is so much misinformation in this thread it is amazing, I'm only guessing here, but are a lot of the posters solely Xbox gamers, even the ones who always state they have both systems? It is a lot like some of the bigger name gaming sites out there - I'm guessing the games with gold posts suffer a similar fate from 'the other side'. From my point of view games with gold is no better than PS+ for its offerings and neither comes close to the mid-late PS3 era of games that were offered. Of course I remember the posts for them having loads of people complaining they owned all the AAA games and asking for more obscure games - no matter what is released will annoy someone.

Personally I have always bought the games I wanted, so if something turns up on plus I enjoy it is a bonus - you can't just gamble that every month will have something you want and a good spell on either service will not make it a reason to buy that console unless you want to be disappointed. Both services are a few quid a month so if one game gets you attention it is probably a worthwhile month, and if none do then take it as if it was Gold from last generation - a service you are forced to pay for to play online.

Yes, because everything I said was actually based in fact. Would you like me to source it with links or will it make no difference to you because you have a similar agenda to push?

The very fact that you have all these facts burned to memory puts you in the fanboy bracket.

Needed plus for online, but really I don't look at the freebies anymore as they usually aren't worth more than a quick play through, give it time though the PS4 is still a young console really.

One thing you have to say for Sony: with the extremely poor quality of the PS+ games, coupled with a mandatory c£35 per year charge to play already hideously overpriced games on a very mediocre network infrastructure, with poor voice chat - they're making a decent case to go back to PC gaming :wink:

Let month we got Walking Dead season 2 and Gauntlet, both games I love so am very happy - will get Grim Fandango as have fancied that for a while but it is a shame the PS3 games are not playable on the PS4. I paid £33 for my PSPlus so i guess it is pretty good value over the course of a year although i don't really play online - this is my first year with a playstation as have always had xbox before now but thought i would switch in time for their VR helmet which i am really looking forward to.

Funnily enough though, i didn't get a notification email so thanks to the OP for this thread :smile:

Im new to xbox so only have access to the X1 titles, I only have the option to purchase 360 games. I think you need to have a gamertag on 360 to qualify for all of them.

Underwhelming compared to other months

Sucks to be PS4-only players. Should have jumped ship sooner :wink:

The self-entitlement knows no bounds. I'd be happy with just Grim Fandango and a couple more vita indies.

Too many mainstream tools expecting too much from the service. You realise after the success of a few indies recently on plus, that the trend will only continue? Better cancel your PS+ and sell up before it's too late, your Xbox 720p is waiting.

Grim Fandango alone makes this a great selection for January. I'd hoped that we might see it in PS+ given the recent inclusion of Broken Age, but hadn't expected it to be coming quite so soon!

Well, the number of games available for PS4 varies month-by-month, as it's quite typical to see a number of cross-buy games included - January's games are quite unusual in there not being any. As for the price, third parties discount the subscriptions more, yes, but the base cost is identical.

:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:

What Eloo said.

Pile of crap once again for PS4

Got both games for ps3 but will try the ps4 ones

brilliant!

Blimey there are a lot of comments. I vote hot and appreciate someone posting this as the email from Sony never opens properly on my phone so it's useful to know I can get the info on HUKD instead. Cheers and Happy (bargain-filled) New Year!

Killer Instinct - the updated Xbox One version. It's a free-to-play game, but January's GWG includes the additional 'season one' characters.

Ok. Cheers.

I had a very strong feeling that Grim Fandango was going to be on PS+, seeing as how often it has been in the sales. ~£2 saved, winning.

You're exactly wrong on every count. It's like you're from opposite land!

It's generally accepted that 3rd party titles tend to run better on PS4.

Bloodborne in bargain bins, are you serious? It's one of the highest rated games ever let alone this year and has held its value remarkably well. From Software fans were initially a small (but ardent) minority in the Demons Souls days but the Souls fanbase is now massive. Bloodborne has sold over 2 million units, which is pretty impressive for a single-platform game.

Reeks of fanboy; visions of troll. :wink:

Your last comment also seems to be a general Sony vs MS comment. But you seem to forget that last generation the 360 held a commanding lead for a few years initially but Sony caught up pretty well with the newer models of the PS3. If anyone became complacent it was M$ with their absurd plans for the Xbone and subsequent U-turns (always on DRM, no preowned games, compulsory Kinect, sports sports sports).

Although it's not my taste to be fair to them Hardware Rivals is a new release

As an owner of both consoles your comments are totally incorrect! I have Black Ops 3 and Star Wars Battlefront on both, Black Ops 3 suffers terrible frame rate issues on the xbone, especially in the control room level, to the point of being unplayable, and as for Star Wars, well the difference in visual quality is very easy to see. Not wanting to sound like a fan boy, because I'm not, but the PS4 is definitely superior to the xbone!

Just to point out, Bloodborne also won GOTY for Eurogamer..

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-01-01-eurogamers-game-of-the-year-2015

kthxbai

Another load of crap for the ps4. Games with gold is so much better than what ps gives us

I am glad that I did not renew my PS Plus and I don't think I will for a while/

It's getting to the point where I am considering saving for a gaming PC or laptop or even a Steam Machine. I don't have to pay to play online there and the games are much cheaper and worth paying the prices for.

PSA...



Here's a link to the game's page on the PS Store: https://store.playstation.com/#!/de-de/games/history-legends-of-war/cid=EP4136-PCSB00198_00-LEGENDSOFWAR0001