a proper dac audio card, will allow me to make pi zero into an audio player for my hifi.
i.e internet radio and youtube music etc. controlled remotely with tablet using ssh and tightvnc
Gort1951
31 Dec 15#48
With the Nordic chip you have to write your own code. It's still operating at 2.4GHz and the chip does all the comms through hardware.
It's what I need to update my blinds control, central heating and door bell.
Gort1951
31 Dec 15#45
Ok. Most of these chips are ok on some pins with 5v.
500mA seems a lot, not much good for battery use then.
13.5mA at RX 2Mbps on the Nordic chip.
The PAM2306 used on RP can supply 1A per channel so it's probably not enough if you are powering other stuff.
You might have to supply power to the wifi card separately.
jacksonliam to Gort1951
31 Dec 15#47
The 500ma is peak, like when the chip is booting. It's not the best for power use but it's wifi, the nordic chip isn't wifi.
You might get away with it on a Pi 2 but on the other Pis (including the zero) you don't want to draw over 150ma from the 3v3 pins.
The esp8266 is a great chip for embedded wifi projects, and it's so cheap! But you probably wouldn't use it with the RPi.
Gort1951
31 Dec 15#46
Just had a look at the spec sheet for this chip and it seems to use 215mA at max right down to 62mA.
Looks like a powerful chip and you can use the 32bit cpu as a separate cpu.
That link you gave, shows an image of the wifi module with a separate psu.
Gort1951
30 Dec 15#43
I have programmed the firmware for wifi on a separate chip, just the crystal and antenna, bit of a pain calculating aerial length. It picks of signals from everywhere and these have to be filtered out.
The scope was going crazy.
A decrete chip is far better like what we have.
Similar. Just different brand of wifi chip.
The 8 pin chip is the 3v voltage regulator.
LVO (low voltage dropout should drop around 1v)
If you are having problems maybe you are not supplying enough voltage.
You could use the 3.3v power from the Zero and bypass the voltage regulator on the wifi card.
I have to create my own firmware. It's just SPI comms. You have to roll your own by setting and reading internal registers but that is the best way if you want more control. Need to make up another bread-board to test it before creating the circuit board.
I do not own a R.PI.
jacksonliam to Gort1951
30 Dec 15#44
It's not an LDO on the ESP module it's an SPI flash. The ESP chip requires at least a 500ma 3v3 supply, the one on the raspi is not beefy enough.
Not sure you have heard of these , might be of use to you, its a programable wifi chip , I have just got one and trying to flash it with espbasic which your program over the internet.http://www.esp8266basic.com/ , havent managed to get mine to work yet , big learning curve for me,having problems interfacing 5v to 3v.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121814972088?euid=fa2245ed30304a7ba8893849c3e94aff&cp=1
Just received these this morning.
My older 2.4GHz cards had the anntenna + crystal but no mpu. I programmed my own small 8bit mpu to communicate with the main mpu, it worked but the chip was constantly busy picking up signals, checking protocols, filtering weak signals etc. Eating battery life.
You also have to calculate the anntenna size.
These ones should be a lot better and comms over SPI, hardware to do it and a claimed 100M distance open space.
Now I need to hack my central heating.
The chip looks to be about 4mm x 4mm quad with 20pins
got one from pimoroni and one from thepihut this morning.
Apparently they both got just 1000 in stock.
jacksonliam
28 Dec 151#37
Pi Zero + Ethernet + Keyboard + Mouse working on 1A Micro Usb power supply.
You want any wifi dongle using the rtl8192cu chipset (which that Edimax one does). It's the only chipset I've found to be completely solid on the Pi.
Graxer
28 Dec 15#36
Also, I am using a passive hub which seems to work for powering a keyboard, mouse, 360 pad and WiFi dongle.
cowsmoooo
28 Dec 15#20
what everyone using theres for? looking for inspiration, already have a media centre etc setup.
mackay85 to cowsmoooo
28 Dec 15#25
Streaming live sport and/or movies. Havent got round to setting this up yet but this is the aim.
Gort1951 to cowsmoooo
28 Dec 15#32
Wirelessly control your window blinds around the whole house. Automatic by timer, manual control or by a light sensor to see if it is dark outside over a time period.
Careful with that though as if you are in your bedroom getting changed and the blinds open then it'll be like that scene from Steptoe and Son.
You'll need the motors, either servo or stepper and they must be small to fit inside each blind.
I have have used small high torque motors and they are really powerful and cheap from China.
You can pick up the mini-board for about £10 and this transmits on/off signals to the point receivers (those are purchased separately but not that expensive really). I believe the software is a bit primitive for it but you can "macro" certain activities, you could send it a packet of data that tells it to turn points on and off strategically which can be handy for controlling lighting for instance. I don't know if it dims but I believe there's an out-of-box solution to do this somewhere. Personally this is what I'm going to do with a series of mine at some point once my skillset is up to par in that area; the community support is pretty good for this type of idea compared to many other platforms which is a rather big deal IMHO.
You can also use it to make your own small scale pirate radio station (handy for transmitting to an FM receiver and play music straight from your collection/storage): http://makezine.com/projects/raspberry-pirate-radio/
I had seen it recommended elsewhere for the Raspberry Pi and it has the advantage of being very small.
Gort1951
28 Dec 15#33
I don't own a PI but use MicroChip Pics.
Does anyone know if the cpu has DACs ?
welshy81
28 Dec 15#31
just pay the extra and get a pi2
jewelie
28 Dec 15#30
Wow. That makes a LOT of sense. Any idea how much more current it uses?
jewelie
28 Dec 15#29
Needs a second usb connector, wired network or built-in WiFi to make much sense for embedded projects.
pitbullmern
28 Dec 15#28
Oos
emmoh12
28 Dec 15#27
can I use this to watch youtube videos?
RyanDunnxxx
28 Dec 15#26
Nice deal! Heat Added
jeffjack
28 Dec 15#22
Bought a £12 kit. very low stock, lucky to get one.
Streather to jeffjack
28 Dec 15#24
Tried to buy one but they sold out between me clicking add to basket and checkout. :smile:
hukd2020
28 Dec 15#23
crappy site....it's such a crime in this day and age to not be able to have a proper e-commerce site running...
says product in stock but craps out with inventory error during checkout...bad bad programming..
tonyt3rry
28 Dec 15#21
ordered mine before thanks for the heads up i paid 14.50 with postage for the one with adapters and pibow. worth the money in my eyes instead of letting it get a fat esd and taking it out rubbing on something
forever_happy
28 Dec 15#17
Would love to see if I could make this a wireless media centre for an iPad. Could use it in the car for the kids, anyone seen anything like that?
fishmaster to forever_happy
28 Dec 151#19
If no one's done it, then invent it, that's what these things are for :smiley:
jacksonliam
28 Dec 15#18
Expired at this price!
You can probably get away without a powered hub for just WiFi/keyboard/mouse as long as you use a decent 2A power supply.
If you want ethernet and are willing to wait for postage from china I've used http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/381475334140
Decentbloke
28 Dec 15#16
Since posting this comment I read further down the list of deals and found a bigger thread where someone said a £1 passive hub from Poundthingyshop worked well enough . . post #45 here
Perhaps the type of power supply used determines what can be run from a passive hub .. . .
mackay85
28 Dec 15#15
I'm lost too mate! Trying to locate videos on youtube is turning out to be a bit of a challenge. Im hopefully gonna plug this up to my samsung tv and use the tv remote control for navigating around Kodi or something similar.
Decentbloke
28 Dec 15#14
Ditto. There seems to be a lot of confusion (in my mind, at least) around the choice of passive vs powered USB hub and how to power the PiZero if using a powered hub.
Graxer
28 Dec 15#8
I got one from Pimoroni about a week before Christmas. Its really fun to play with and is great for retro gaming! Getting a USB hub, adapters, power and HDMI cables and a WiFi/Ethernet USB dongle does put the price up significantly, but I would say it was still definitely worth it!
mackay85 to Graxer
28 Dec 15#13
What WiFi/Ethernet USB dongle did you purchase?
wildcolor
28 Dec 15#12
i must resist. have a pi b and never really use it. have 3 other tablets and 4 pcs. so resist
darkzerodai
28 Dec 15#11
I was just lookin at this the other day, guess it's now time lol
AdamPI
28 Dec 151#10
I can't keep putting off getting into these any longer, think the £12 kit is my best bet.
Most of the best accessories seem to be out of stock, what's the best place to get some? Or does stock tend to come back in quickly here?
bigjeremy
28 Dec 15#9
Shows stock but when you checkout says inventory error and removes from cart.
richyjwill
28 Dec 15#7
14 left in stock of pi zero only. kits still left except the £8 one
richyjwill
28 Dec 151#6
dont order more than 1 btw.. ur order goes through then gets instantly cancelled.. lol.. i know as i just tried to order 3. doh.
gabesdad
28 Dec 15#5
The Pi zero will be better value when more widely available, and I can get a second one, as will already have all the connectors I've had to buy with the initial board. Probably better to use as an in car media device than the model 2 in all reality.
gabesdad
28 Dec 15#3
Got one. Not totally convinced it's a better option than a full model 2, but good to tinker with.
richyjwill to gabesdad
28 Dec 15#4
the idea of the zero is not the power but the size of it. the pi 2 is more powerful but larger in size. and the zero is a fraction of the price of the pi 2.
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1Pcs-PCM2707-USB-DAC-sound-card-board-module-S-PDIF-port-high-quality-UK-B37-/231608918489?hash=item35ecf7a1d9:g:lFEAAOSwgQ9VknoW
a proper dac audio card, will allow me to make pi zero into an audio player for my hifi.
i.e internet radio and youtube music etc. controlled remotely with tablet using ssh and tightvnc
It's what I need to update my blinds control, central heating and door bell.
500mA seems a lot, not much good for battery use then.
13.5mA at RX 2Mbps on the Nordic chip.
The PAM2306 used on RP can supply 1A per channel so it's probably not enough if you are powering other stuff.
You might have to supply power to the wifi card separately.
You might get away with it on a Pi 2 but on the other Pis (including the zero) you don't want to draw over 150ma from the 3v3 pins.
The esp8266 is a great chip for embedded wifi projects, and it's so cheap! But you probably wouldn't use it with the RPi.
Looks like a powerful chip and you can use the 32bit cpu as a separate cpu.
That link you gave, shows an image of the wifi module with a separate psu.
The scope was going crazy.
A decrete chip is far better like what we have.
Similar. Just different brand of wifi chip.
The 8 pin chip is the 3v voltage regulator.
LVO (low voltage dropout should drop around 1v)
If you are having problems maybe you are not supplying enough voltage.
You could use the 3.3v power from the Zero and bypass the voltage regulator on the wifi card.
I have to create my own firmware. It's just SPI comms. You have to roll your own by setting and reading internal registers but that is the best way if you want more control. Need to make up another bread-board to test it before creating the circuit board.
I do not own a R.PI.
a good way to get the wifi on without use a usb port.
https://blog.adafruit.com/2015/12/04/raspberry-pi-zero-wifi-hack-pizero-piday-raspberrypi-raspberry_pi/
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Newest-ESP8266-Serial-WIFI-Wireless-Transceiver-Mold-Send-Receive-LWIP-AP-STA-A-/272050372842?hash=item3f577740ea:g:FdMAAOSw6dNWTaeX
Just received these this morning.
My older 2.4GHz cards had the anntenna + crystal but no mpu. I programmed my own small 8bit mpu to communicate with the main mpu, it worked but the chip was constantly busy picking up signals, checking protocols, filtering weak signals etc. Eating battery life.
You also have to calculate the anntenna size.
These ones should be a lot better and comms over SPI, hardware to do it and a claimed 100M distance open space.
Now I need to hack my central heating.
The chip looks to be about 4mm x 4mm quad with 20pins
Apparently they both got just 1000 in stock.
You want any wifi dongle using the rtl8192cu chipset (which that Edimax one does). It's the only chipset I've found to be completely solid on the Pi.
Careful with that though as if you are in your bedroom getting changed and the blinds open then it'll be like that scene from Steptoe and Son.
You'll need the motors, either servo or stepper and they must be small to fit inside each blind.
I have have used small high torque motors and they are really powerful and cheap from China.
You can pick up the mini-board for about £10 and this transmits on/off signals to the point receivers (those are purchased separately but not that expensive really). I believe the software is a bit primitive for it but you can "macro" certain activities, you could send it a packet of data that tells it to turn points on and off strategically which can be handy for controlling lighting for instance. I don't know if it dims but I believe there's an out-of-box solution to do this somewhere. Personally this is what I'm going to do with a series of mine at some point once my skillset is up to par in that area; the community support is pretty good for this type of idea compared to many other platforms which is a rather big deal IMHO.
You can also use it to make your own small scale pirate radio station (handy for transmitting to an FM receiver and play music straight from your collection/storage): http://makezine.com/projects/raspberry-pirate-radio/
Edimax EW-7811UN 150Mbps Wireless Nano USB Adapter
I had seen it recommended elsewhere for the Raspberry Pi and it has the advantage of being very small.
Does anyone know if the cpu has DACs ?
says product in stock but craps out with inventory error during checkout...bad bad programming..
You can probably get away without a powered hub for just WiFi/keyboard/mouse as long as you use a decent 2A power supply.
If you want ethernet and are willing to wait for postage from china I've used http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/381475334140
Perhaps the type of power supply used determines what can be run from a passive hub .. . .
Most of the best accessories seem to be out of stock, what's the best place to get some? Or does stock tend to come back in quickly here?