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Mario Kart 64 £8.99 [Wii U Virtual Console - Released Thursday] @ Nintendo eShop
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FantasyDeals
18 Jan 16
Mario Kart 64 will be downloadable on Wii U from this Thursday, 21st January, priced £8.99.

Mario Kart 64, one of the first games released for the Nintendo 64 platform, is an updated translation of the very popular Super Mario Kart for the Super NES (SNES). While the game clearly takes full advantage of the graphic power and speed of the N64, a few components that made the original so compelling have been left out of this release. Still, Nintendo's expertise at sucking players into the game world is strongly evident, and Mario Kart 64 offers enough challenges to keep players (especially casual gamers) entertained.

[Some of this description is outdated]
Top comments
Halo
18 Jan 16 26 #12
£8.99 for a 20 year old game. Any wonder Nintendo's consoles are in decline? The cost of ownership is sky-high.

If you have a PS3, Crash Team Racing is £4 on PSN and is a better game. Mario Kart 64 wasn't exactly the series' finest hour either.
stevenhp1987
18 Jan 16 18 #19
£8.99 is regular price? this is not a deal. £8.99 for a digital copy of an N64 game is not a deal.

Cold I'm afraid.
benjammin316
18 Jan 16 7 #7
That battle mode is worth the price alone.
AsherDG
18 Jan 16 5 #8
I started playing this with my cousin when it first came out 20 years ago. To this day we still play every time we see each other.
All comments (113)
pbyron1
18 Jan 16 1 #1
Any reason I should buy it again if I already have it through the Wii VC?
FantasyDeals to pbyron1
18 Jan 16 1 #2
If you already own it on the Wii's VC, You could choose a £1.49 upgrade cost to the Wii U Virtual Console.
crafton to pbyron1
18 Jan 16 1 #3
Mainly for Gamepad & pro controller support, if you have it already on Wii mode on a Wii U the only supported controller would be the classic controller as the Wii U doesn't have any Gamecube controller ports.
There's also off screen play and a save state feature...
Piccadillio
18 Jan 16 4 #4
Great game at the time, but hasn't aged well like a lot of the games from that era. 16 bit games aged far better. The best tracks have been remade in latter versions, and MK8 is arguably the best Mario Kart game, so there's not much of a reason to buy this on VC.
omgpleasespamme to Piccadillio
19 Jan 16 #85
I love this version of Mario Kart as the red shells took at least a little skill to use. Block Fort battle map was endless fun.
Istanbul_Kop
18 Jan 16 4 #5
The best Mario Kart. Even today.
pazuzu17 to Istanbul_Kop
18 Jan 16 #13
Ha! Yes, back in the day it was king - well, SMK was still better, but played today (MK64)...just no. The poll today is between SMK vs MK8, which is better? Impossible.
Slamboree
18 Jan 16 1 #6
Oh YESSSS mega excited
benjammin316
18 Jan 16 7 #7
That battle mode is worth the price alone.
AsherDG
18 Jan 16 5 #8
I started playing this with my cousin when it first came out 20 years ago. To this day we still play every time we see each other.
jejarjeez
18 Jan 16 #9
Will this be a promo price or normal? Don't think I ever player this one. How does it rate to the rest? I honestly think Mario kart Wii u is the best one
SDLiam
18 Jan 16 1 #10
This is normal price. I'd advise anyone to put the money toward and Android handheld which can emulate this and many others better than the Wii U.
Bossworld to SDLiam
18 Jan 16 #11
Genuine question - the Android route will emulate more games, but how is it 'better' than Nintendo's own attempts? Or do you mean stuff like upscaling?

Quick tip for anyone who's still got the Wii version (either on their Wii or Wii U) - the Hori battle pads are more or less identical to Gamecube controllers (believe they've reused the original moulds, albeit without rumble) and plug into the bottom of a Wii remote so work with all classic controller enabled games, plus other emulators and Nintendont. Only about £20 too.
Halo
18 Jan 16 26 #12
£8.99 for a 20 year old game. Any wonder Nintendo's consoles are in decline? The cost of ownership is sky-high.

If you have a PS3, Crash Team Racing is £4 on PSN and is a better game. Mario Kart 64 wasn't exactly the series' finest hour either.
tommydowp to Halo
18 Jan 16 #14
​some good points, but there is much love for this game from many gamers. I loved this game as it was the first time I heard the Wario Cackle....regardless of when someone hit an item. I have it for Wii VC so the upgrade price is worth it.
adam0812 to Halo
18 Jan 16 4 #20
charging £9 for an n64 game is hardly the reason the wii u is being stomped.
noahsdad to Halo
18 Jan 16 #34
What wonderful and balanced advice. I am sure at least half those looking at this thread are sticking their Wii U's on ebay as we speak and looking for PS deals.
AndrewRunagall to Halo
18 Jan 16 1 #36
​Yes, £8.99 for a great 20 year old game, a game that's far better than the generic FPS's and Football games that are put out year-in, year-out.

Besides, I don't know about you but I sure had fun with friends playing Battle Mode on MK64.
grizzl33 to Halo
18 Jan 16 2 #50
Try buying the original cart on ebay for £8.99.
Spidersmudge to Halo
18 Jan 16 #57
I still play Mario Kart 64 on the N64, but I couldn't agree more with this post. Well played sir.
foxxes to Halo
18 Jan 16 2 #68
CTR better than Mario Kart 64? Lol that's cute.
Franzkill to Halo
19 Jan 16 2 #86
Couple that with the fact you can just emulate this on PC with a multitude of filtering options. Guessing the virtual console doesn't have these :/
totneschap to Halo
19 Jan 16 #91
I agree about the price dut disagree about Crash team racing being better.
Stevo_86
18 Jan 16 2 #15
Got a few emulators on my Amazon fire box with an n64 one. works perfect with ps4 controllers.
AndrewRunagall to Stevo_86
18 Jan 16 1 #37
​If you use emulators, you're doing it wrong.
SteadVex
18 Jan 16 3 #16
Still the best Mk for me, like a sucker I've bought them all, so far if dlc came out for mk64 I would buy it! Couldn't enjoy any the newer ones as much, still, not buying it a third time!
thesimpsons_uk
18 Jan 16 2 #17
This is wayyyy too expensive for a N64 game.
kyeung
18 Jan 16 #18
One of my favoriten version of Mario kart
stevenhp1987
18 Jan 16 18 #19
£8.99 is regular price? this is not a deal. £8.99 for a digital copy of an N64 game is not a deal.

Cold I'm afraid.
Trace6x to stevenhp1987
19 Jan 16 #88
Have to agree, £9 for a digital copy of mario kart 64 is steep, hell you can probably pick up the cartridge for less
Lukesablade
18 Jan 16 #21
Heat op, have people not seen how much the N64 cartridge alone is on ebay???
Smoking173850
18 Jan 16 #22
Great game but I wish Nintendo would concentrate on putting games on the will u as we have star fox and zelda and that's it by the looks of it.
And £9 for a game I bought 19 years ago. Nintendo is going to be the next saga of its not careful with the nx.
TechNinja
18 Jan 16 1 #23
is that nintendo strategy? releasing old games to new console, no wonder they can't compete with the competition
J0n35y
18 Jan 16 1 #24
It's odd reading the huge love for this one (here and, especially, on Retro Gamer). Not saying it wasn't great but I remember som disappointment when it first came out. Something didnt quite feel right in the race modes. Multiplayer was fantastic though - I remember some epic all nighters with this one.

As for pricing - I think Nintendo's pricing is a little steep for all of the back catalogue. This isn't a problem unique to Nintendo though. The online stores of all the big players tend to be on the pricey side. But I can imagine Nintendo making an absolute killing if they halved the prices of all their "retro games". I'd be all over it! Or imagine a subscription service!
koimaster
18 Jan 16 2 #25
Seems overpriced if you really think about it.
megaman666 to koimaster
18 Jan 16 1 #28
In what way? I seem to recall N64 games were priced up to £59.99 each at release of the console, and that was back in 1996 or whenever it was. That's like £4000 in todays money.
the_mayor
18 Jan 16 #26
Pretty pointless when the Wii U has MK8.
megaman666
18 Jan 16 #27
im sorry... what?
malachi
18 Jan 16 3 #29
Way over priced, I own all the physical copies of MK but this should be £3.99 at the most.
Gamer_U
18 Jan 16 1 #30
Read it as "Mario Kart 8 £8.99" but it's the 64 version which I've already played to death and the replay value is short without online play.
FantasyDeals to Gamer_U
18 Jan 16 3 #33
Mario Kart 8² :smirk:
SDLiam to Gamer_U
18 Jan 16 #62
So true. The real shame is not the pricing but the fact that Nintendo don't bother to implement online multiplayer.
JMJ1990
18 Jan 16 #31
Standard price unless of course, you bought it on Wii VC. Still cheaper than getting a physical copy on eBay
Gamer_U
18 Jan 16 #32
Values change. Times change.
yoshi646
18 Jan 16 1 #35
Will diddy Kong racing becoming to the wii u store
noahsdad to yoshi646
18 Jan 16 #38
I'd like to see that to, would be a more welcome addition for some. But, whatever happened to Nintendo continuing to support Mario Kart 8 with updates into the next year? The Pack 2 download for MK8 came out in April 2015. Looks like there won't be anything else.
The Lone Ranger
18 Jan 16 1 #39
Why is this a deal? It isn't like it has been on sale for more expensive or there are options where you can buy it from.
adam0812
18 Jan 16 1 #40
cant play ocarina of time in widescreen on n64
adam0812
18 Jan 16 #41
dont remember them promising anything more? have to say 48 tracks is pretty damn meaty.
jojow158
18 Jan 16 2 #42
Almost £10 for an N64 game, digital too LOL. Nintendo is a joke and but their fanboys are worse.
noahsdad to jojow158
18 Jan 16 #47
Don't forget the other cliche XB/PS fanboy comments: Wii U only has 12 games and only 2 are any good + the console should cost £50.
937666
18 Jan 16 #43
This is the worst of the series in my opinion. Most tracks are far too long and straight
Justme1969
18 Jan 16 #44
Moo Moo Farm & Wario Stadium - couch multiplayer heaven <3

I remember the little glitch in Wario Stadium, you can leap the wall by the final stretch and take the lead. But, it's hard to pull off... really annoying for those ahead of the pack, but really good fun. The ultimate rage-quit slackness move.
mreibmoz
18 Jan 16 #45
Blooming heck people, dont buy the worst version of Mario Kart there is! Especially not at this price!
robtallica
18 Jan 16 #46
Funny how the sands of time distort things. I remember when this was released and many magazine (!) reviews at the time actually weren't that glowing, my mate had it and there was just something missing.

Definitely wasn't as universally loved as the SNES one. Diddy Kong Racing on the other hand was far superior to MK64. 4 player split screen modes, an inventive story mode. Tracks that you played with either hover crafts/boats, karts or airplanes, bosses to defeat.

Diddy Kong Racing was the absolute nuts.
UberPark
18 Jan 16 1 #48
Absolutely ridiculous this game should free to attract people to the wii u. You can plat this on your smart phone for free why pay 9 pound to play it on wii u
noahsdad
18 Jan 16 #49
Your right, I haven't ever found any promises from Nintendo. Maybe I am reading too much into online articles like this one: http://www.idigitaltimes.com/mario-kart-8-dlc-news-nintendo-confirms-another-release-works-439391 More tracks/characters would have been nice is all.


I will agree with that. A racing game with challenges and end of levels bosses was genius! It was sort of Mario Kart crossed with Mario 64. And the XB/PS fanboys reckon Nintendo are not innovative lol.
SDLiam
18 Jan 16 1 #51
Quicker loading, upscaling, save anywhere, custom pads or even n64 usb ones, portable options, one off cost and the list goes on.
noahsdad
18 Jan 16 #52
The MK64 Wikki page is actually very good for a recap if like me you have forgotten what the game was like. http://www.mariowiki.com/Mario_Kart_64

With my memory now a bit recharged, the courses and tracks are good, particularly the multi-level battle courses for multiplayer. 8 characters seems so few now and GFX clearly well dated, but it is MK game no. 2 in the running order of the series. If you can get past all that, is going to be fun.

http://www.mariowiki.com/images/7/7c/ChocoMountain.png
Chocco Mountain track!
montblanc
18 Jan 16 1 #53
I think this is by far the worst Mario Kart. I can only think that it's still fondly remembered cause of nostalgia. Super Mario Kart is first rate while this is awful. 2D ages so much better than 3D.
gordonla1984
18 Jan 16 #54
I think it still looks great. It's the AI that drives me up the wall - the 'rubber banding' is merciless, whereas on Super Mario Kart, and even Diddy Kong Racing, you'd see your skill rewarded by over-lapping or even simply extending your lead. In the franchise, it represents a first and in no way is it a poor game that looks terrible.

Oh, and this isn't a deal in the slightest.
frish
18 Jan 16 1 #55
I would've been tempted to get a Wii U if it didn't hold its price for so long. Couldn't really justify the price when it was close enough to the much superior hardware of the other 2 consoles despite having a more unique catalogue. The recent bundle deal is tempting but at this point I'm wondering if it'd be better to wait for the NX. £9 is an absolute joke for such an outdated game. It'd be great for the nostalgia factor for much cheaper, I doubt many people would pay that much. They'd probably sell like hotcakes if they were sold for a couple of quid or so. It'd still add up if they had a whole bunch of classics. The a whole bunch of games that actually need to pay for their development for less on steam. Might as well just emulate it for free...

Some companies even give out their older games for free in order to drum up interest. As someone who hasn't pirated in years and in a fairly limited fashion, it's kind of hard not to justify piracy on old classics like this.
twonkydonkey
18 Jan 16 #56
I am looking forward to this, all we need now is Mario Double Dash
jonspurs
18 Jan 16 #58
Loved this game...my favourite version of Mario Kart :-D
DarrylJohn
18 Jan 16 #59
I play this and mario world absolutely fine on the Nvidia Shield TV. Can even play two player, wireless shield remote and a wired 360 controller.
Istanbul_Kop
18 Jan 16 #60
Mario 64 was £84.99 in some shops on release. Staggering. Think that was in Electronic Boutique.
Istanbul_Kop
18 Jan 16 #61
If you're playing it multiplayer, make sure you know all the tricks, this was one of my faves:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVQXMSiJuBw
SDLiam
18 Jan 16 #63
If you want a real n64 gem try Perfect Dark HD on the 360/Xbox 1.

Comes with 29 other games and goes for just £1 more than this Rare Replay.
MadeInBeats
18 Jan 16 #64
To be fair, it was worth every penny :laughing:
Piccadillio
18 Jan 16 #65
£59.99 was Donkey Kong 64 with the Expansion Pak, and Lylat Wars with the Rumble Pak! But a lot of games were £49.99, which is something I bring up quite often when people complain about games being £39.99!
Piccadillio
18 Jan 16 #66
No reason to apologise, mate!
aibon
18 Jan 16 #67
Will the Wii U upgrade make it 60hz. The old Wii Virtual console version was only 50hz and sloooow
andywedge
18 Jan 16 2 #69
Deleted a few comments
Keep this thread free of insults, fanboy comments etc
yrreb88
18 Jan 16 2 #70
I don't understand people who don't understand selling old games like this. Games are for everyone not just people who played them as a kid on release. No need to whine it came out 20 years ago, it's not targeted at you so there's no real problem. If they didn't sell they wouldn't do it so there is a market. You're not going to get an 8 year old today asking for an N64 to play mariokart 64 and even so you'll struggle to do so for less than £9.

Games are a valid form of media and creativity and should be available in the future. I will be happy to see an ocarina of time or zelda collection, MGS or final fantasy 4k remaster in 50 years.
noahsdad to yrreb88
18 Jan 16 #72
Agree, am sure its only 18yrs old anyway :smiley: Also agree with those saying its not a deal, but I voted HOT just to annoy the genocidal console fanboys who like to spout their nonsense.
noahsdad
18 Jan 16 #71
Would it not be more constructive to just suspend/ban the perpetrator who was slagging off the Wii U and calling all those who play it stupid fanboys? They have form for this. 0 deals posted and lots of Wii focused incitement.
Illusionary
18 Jan 16 1 #73
Well, there go the last of my Wii Shop points (save for the spare 100 points that I can't do anything with). I'll be getting this for the upgrade price come Thursday - thanks for the heads-up! :smiley:

If F-Zero X, Yoshi's Story or Super Smash Bros come to the Wii U VC, I just might have to face paying full price for those...
yrreb88
18 Jan 16 #74
I think it's a deal because I don't know where I can buy mariokart 64 for less than £9. :smiley:
noahsdad
18 Jan 16 #75
But £9 is not for a physical copy and its the RRP download code. The £9 is not including any early buy discount code. If its posted on here for £7 in a month, that would be a deal, but for now it is surely just information?
googleboogle
18 Jan 16 1 #76
Will get this for my 9 year old daughter. Get her educated on retro games
aibon
18 Jan 16 2 #77
in 1996 I travelled down to Portsmouth and met up with some Chinese Importer guy to get the Japanese Mario Kart 64 with limited edition black and white controller. Paid £100. Cant tell you how many nights I stayed up all night with mates just so we could have just one more race on Koopa Beach
megaman666 to aibon
19 Jan 16 1 #90
dem 3 perfect jumps.
thomasaroche
18 Jan 16 2 #78
MK64 was one of the best Nintendo moment I ever had. Nothing has come close to it since.
Jacky_J
18 Jan 16 #79
Not quite a deal, more of a heads up. Had to vote cold on that reason.
Double dash would of been good, still enjoy playing that on the Gamecube :smile:
yrreb88
18 Jan 16 #80
But can you buy a physical copy for anywhere near £9? That's assuming you have an N64 to play it on. I get what you're saying and it mainly comes down to whether you prefer a physical copy for resale or not. A deal doesn't have to be based on a saving on RRP and regardless, it's gone hot.
chrisredmayne
18 Jan 16 #81
You could just download an emulator if you already have the game :wink:
nascent
18 Jan 16 #82
All we need now is Goldeneye (I know it'll never happen).
kalico
18 Jan 16 #83
Can anyone give me a steer on where to start with basic gaming? My 5 year old plays Mario Kart on a Wii (at least I think that's what it is) at his mum's house but I've got nothing other than pc tech around, plus Android mobiles/tablets. I've really no idea where to start. Thanks for any help.
aibon to kalico
18 Jan 16 1 #84
Get yourself a Steam account on your PC and get some cheap game bundles. It takes all the pain and faffing around out of playing and installing PC gaming. There are some terrific bargains at the moment too.

Some links

Steam Page

Bundlestars Page (cheap Steam games)

Humblebundle page (more cheap steam games)
Trun0
19 Jan 16 #87
I believe it's £1.79 for the N64 titles.
Awaken
19 Jan 16 #89
What have they done to earn the £1.49, other than persuade you to buy a Wii U?
tumbleweed34
19 Jan 16 #92
Perhaps if Nintendo stopped bringing out new versions of their handheld consoles every five minutes, they'd have more time to actually produce some new games.

MK64 was great in its day, but that day has long gone! Pull your finger out Ninty!
zomgwtfbbq
19 Jan 16 #93
Joke pricing like this on Nintendo's games is the reason why I will think twice about picking up the Wii U or any future Nintendo console, even after it inevitably hits under £100...if I wanted to play N64 games at a price like this, I'd rather pick up the original cartridge and own a relic...do one, Nintendo.
noahsdad
19 Jan 16 #94
The PS/XB fanboys need to wake up and realise quality multiplayer family orientated gaming comes at a price. If Nintendo were just producing masses of generic shooter game after shooter game, it would not be a Nintendo console, it would be a PS or XBOX. And Nintendo fans have no other options, as the other consoles are offering no competition for the market they operate in. The epic failure of other consoles to serve up any competition or alternative options does not make the Wii U or Nintendo a bad product. The problems are closer to home than other console fanboys realise.
stuartjohnwhitehead to noahsdad
20 Jan 16 #97
This is also called 'being scalped'.
frish to noahsdad
20 Jan 16 #98
1) Why does it come at a price?
2) What makes nintendo more of a higher quality than other platforms?
3) The item in question has no multiplayer anyway

When I personally think of nintendo, I think of a fun easy going platform at a lower price range. Nintendo use budget materials and are plasticy. It only seems recently to me that they've kind of overshot their market. When I think of nintendo I think of the affordable gameboy range and what I assumed were affordable consoles (we actually only had a SNES and so I'm less certain about the console pricing) for the family to enjoy. However over recent years that seems to have changed, the 3ds held its price for a long time, at around £180 for an XL, it had massively inferior hardware to the vita. Even if the vita had a poor catalogue, it's hard to justify the cost, though it has gone down the past year or so and you can get decent deals on them finally.

As for the Wii U, again the hardware is massively inferior to the XBO and ps4 and I'd argue that the others also seem to feel of a higher quality too. Personally I only currently use a high end PC which is more powerful than any of them while also being able to have a free internet service and cheaper games. The thing is, while having their own unique catalogue hold some value, if they're going to continue to hold high value for their content and platforms they're going to find it hard. People most interested in a nintendo console would be interested in cost, at the low end there's increasing competition in the mobile and tablet market, while at the upper end there's the others and pc gaming. The way I see it is that when priced respectively for its spec, then it blows the competition away from either quality or cost. At less competitive prices, they risk losing their market. Their handheld in particular is something kids are more attractived to smartphones that can do more than handhelds while allowing them to keep in touch in 1 device that is easy to carry around.

Nevertheless, it's hard to argue that £9 is cheap when you can get similar or better quality content for less or even free. While I could be wrong, I'd imagine not many people feel such an old game is worth so much and wouldn't feel so bad pirating it (which is a lot easier and saves an hours work to get that £9) if they didn't have the original to do it legally. I'd reckon more people would try more classics if they were prices more appropriately. I doubt too much effort went into emulating it, even doing it from scratch wouldn't really make it worth it from a quality price point of view. On the other hand, a surprising amount of people voted this hot despite it not really being a deal.

While you may be a fan of nintendo, other platforms are hardly inferior for not having a more family friendly catalogue, there's still plenty of quality games. If nintendo can't win on price, then more people are going to be tempted by the higher specs of the other consoles that have their own solid games, even if the exclusives fall short. Personally given the choice of a £9 emulated classic or a new game for about twice the price, I'd go for a new game since I know in the end I'd play it more and I'd get more work needed for my money. Basically your opinion seems mostly biased.
urbansmartsocial
19 Jan 16 1 #95
I still have my n64, most robust system to date
stuartjohnwhitehead
20 Jan 16 #96
Ive never understood Nintendo's pricing of VC games. To be honest, they should charge a yearly fee like PSN, say £30, once paid you can download and play as many VC games as you like. Thing is ive already paid for all these games back in the day on SNES etc... paying £40 a game!

I ain't paying a load more.
bernardsfingers
20 Jan 16 #99
1) I wouldn't say this a deal as it's full rrp but Mario Kart 64 was/is excellent - it's probably worth £8 if you played it when the N64 was around but might seem a bit steep if you're comparing it to 'modern' releases & are pointlessly valuing the worth of a game by how recent it is & how shiny the graphics are rather than how good the game is to play.

Whether Mario Kart 64 is still good to play is obviously quite subjective but for some people it remains a classic & if you don't have access to it any other way then this is perfectly good way to get hold of it.

Also (& not aiming this at you) comparing the cost of a digital download to a physical cartridge is pointless as they aren't like-for-like (obviously) & there is no future 'value' in having the digital game outside of playing the game itself.

2) Nintendo are known for making highly polished & playable games. Nintendo games are also more broadly appealing - ie they produce high quality games that can appeal to both individuals & families - & the Wii U has generally tried to promote multiplayer gaming for people playing in the same console rather than across the Internet which is a quite different approach to the PS4 & Xbox One.

3) Mario Kart 64 is 4-player (which is the main reason people loved it so much originally).

I think the main point is the Wii U offers something quite different to the other consoles - if you don't value what it offers then it's obvious comparing Nintendo to other systems makes Nintendo seem overpriced. But by the same argument I don't understand why someone would pay £250 for a PS4 or Xbox one when it has very few games I want to play regardless of what the specs of the console are.*

* Just to make my point clearer - why would someone pay more for 'better technology' when the system doesn't have the games you want to play? People who want Nintendo games (with local multiplayer & lots of good family fun) would be wasting their money buying a PS4 - the value in a system is really whether it has games you wish to play. I can see the argument that VC games should be cheaper but as I say the value of something is in whether you want to play it rather than its newness or shinyness.
bernardsfingers
20 Jan 16 #100
Also just to pick up these 2 points - the entire value of the Wii U is its catalogue of unique games - the games don't 'hold some value' but they are the value of buying a Nintendo console & the reason people buy them. The 3DS has sold around the same as the Wii U, PS4 & Xbox combined so your point that 'kids are more attractived to smartphones' seems quite strange - also handheld consoles & smartphones aren't mutually exclusive.
noahsdad
20 Jan 16 1 #101
People are still not seeing it... the question is not why is the Wii U so expensive, or why are the old Nintendo download games so expensive.

The real question is why do other consoles not provide competition to Nintendo?

(and the real question is the answer to why Nintendo prices hold and why people pay the £££, because there are no other options, and ultimately your getting quality stuff)
Franzkill to noahsdad
26 Jan 16 #112
Yeah really expecting clarity from a guy with a Mario avatar. Remind me how re releasing Windwaker AND Twilight princess in HD is considered being 'unique'? No actually thats fine by me, as long as Nintendo do that is 'gospel' right? But if Sony or Microsoft do it BAM! Second degree murder :0
frish
21 Jan 16 #102
Well the release for the 3ds was quite horrible (as well as the wii U) and the mobile market is both more accessible and constantly improving. I believe nintendo were making losses for quite a while. I can't be the only person interested in some of their catalogue yet not feeling that it was worth taking the plunge for most of its duration. Nor should I be the only one who may be interested in trying some classics that I didn't get round to playing or playing for the nostalgia factor but unwilling to pay £9 for each one. While handhelds and smartphones aren't mutually exclusive, they're still pricey systems and as mobiles/smartphones get better, more families might feel like they will be the good enough system if they're going to act in a similar fashion for the next handheld generation.

Sorry didn't mean to like... While the exclusives fall short on other platforms, there still seems to be a fairly decent library to choice from. I personally would only consider a wii U as a secondary system rather than a main system I'd consider the other platforms to be.

I find it quite contradictory when some publishers feel hard done and justify expensive, shorter DLC because apparently development is a lot more extensive and costly nowadays (which I'm not saying isn't true), yet certain old emulation like this still seems to hold value. It just seems like we're losing on both sides...

While at least there's the option to buy, I feel that things should be more accessible across the board. We're in a much more connected world, why should it be easier to download roms elsewhere for a multitude of devices than pay for a classic?
noahsdad
21 Jan 16 #103
frish - You have replied to my comment, but completely bypassed the point and question, which is: Why do other consoles not provide competition to Nintendo?, and is this not creating a directly correlation with game prices on Wii U, be it download or physical prices. Again to reiterate, there are no other alternative options to Nintendo being provided by other consoles.


If quantity over quality is your thing then fair enough. You have to remember some prefer the "quality" factor and if you have that, you really don't need 945 games to choose from. Has it ever crossed your mind that Wii U players may just view PS/XB consoles as secondary systems (if even that). It is hard to deny Wii U players seem more content and happy. Just because Wii U players generally don't go on PS/XB threads and make a big noise, it does not mean they are not looking down on those consoles. As they clearly lack family content and family multiplayer titles of any value. Endless shooter after shooter and red blood all over to the TV is not to everyone's liking.

The only PS titles that have really caught my attention are Little Big Planet and Tearaway.
bernardsfingers
21 Jan 16 1 #104
I'm sure that there's plenty of people who have already chosen to buy a tablet rather than a 3DS for their children but there is obviously still a big market for dedicated games systems which is not met by mobile & tablet gaming. In my own experience (which is obviously quite different to a child's or probably your own) the games designed to be playable via touchscreen controls are generally either very simple or limited in the types of gaming it's feasible to play without having an external controller (which is less compact & convenient than a 3DS) - for this reason I'd say tablets serve a certain gaming market but if you want anything more than puzzle or strategy games then you'll probably need to consider a dedicated console. Also some people don't seem too bothered about having multiple gaming consoles & giant TVs so there will always be a market for an expensive bit of tech for people to buy their kids - whether that is a tablet or Nintendo console.

You see the Wii U as a potential 2nd console which is fine in the same way the Wii was - but if you don't have the money for it that doesn't mean it should necessarily be cheaper but merely that you don't really want/need it enough to pay what everyone else is happy to pay (& people are actually happy to pay £200 for a Wii U). If you read posts from people who have bought one they are generally very happy with it - including people who bought it as a 2nd (or even 3rd) console. So saying it's not worth the money seems quite a narrow point of view. You seem to suggest it's preferable to pay for something with 'better tech' but no games (PS Vita) rather than something with loads of games but less technologically advanced (3DS).

With respect to paying £9 for Mario Kart 64 I agree that it could seem slightly expensive but at least you get a fully functional form of the game without any messing around that you might need to do with an emulator & won't have any of the potential glitches/issues (ie sound, control & graphics) which are likely to occur using emulators. Plus it'll be plugged into your TV rather than playing on a laptop or tablet - if you think that attempting to play 4-player Mario Kart 64 on a tablet, phone or laptop is easy then fair enough.
noahsdad
21 Jan 16 #105
If someone would oblige, I wouldn't mind hearing how well people think this has been emulated on the Wii U, and how well it generally plays?
bernardsfingers
21 Jan 16 #106
Sorry, I feel like I'm getting on at you in particular but this is just a general point that Sony sell PS1 games for £8 (at least the Final Fantasy games but not sure if that's a standard price regardless of the title) so £9 doesn't seem to be too excessive for one of the standout N64 releases from the same console generation. Whether you want to go & complain in a Playstation 4 thread about the standard price of 20 year old games or simply post something like 'this should be the standard price for a game this old' in the current Final Fantasy deal thread is obviously up to you. :stuck_out_tongue:
frish
21 Jan 16 1 #107
Not really sure what you're getting at. For competition I already mentioned (which you quoted) about the lack of exclusives. Other than that they still have their fair share of fun games to play. They may not have the same "for everyone" style as nintendo, but that doesn't mean their games are any less quality. There's GTA V, the witcher 3, Arkham knight, bloodbourne, and many other great titles. Not everything is a fps clone. Personally I've enjoyed the benefits on the PC more and also couldn't justify the cost of a ps4 when a lot of the titles I can get for PC which are cheaper and have better control. As a choice of PS4 or the Wii U, I'd likely go for the PS4 though. I've had a fair share of nintendo stuff, but I feel the only reason why recent deals on systems are on the reasonable side is because those systems are now on the ageing side. I probably put too much into that argument, I just don't want nintendo to fall into a more niche category because they tend to not be with the times on some things. After all, as a kid things seemed more affordable in the past if you look back to over a year ago or so. The only reason I eventually got a 3ds was due to knowing that the psp catalogue sucked hard. It would've been nice to get one earlier though. That's just the way I see things anyway.


I'd probably make the same point about overpriced emulation if it was a sony "deal" thread tbh. It's been the norm for online stores to be overpriced compared to other outlets, it's just that for emulation, the alternative is the free one... It just seems baffling that I can get games like Shadow of Mordor, Mortal kombat X or Tomb Raider for less than a game about 2 decades old...
noahsdad
21 Jan 16 1 #108
Many (myself included) would say Mario Kart 64 is better than the games you mention. MK64 is a special game, high quality and fun. I can think of little to rival it in the racing genre from a multiplayer perspective over those last 20 yrs.
frish
21 Jan 16 #109
I'd argue there's a big nostalgia factor there. I haven't actually managed to get through most of tomb raider, but it seems like a very decent game, I think people had issues with MK10s netcode but still a fiver for a game that came out not too long ago seems like a steal compared, Shadow of Mordor I did get to play a lot and seemed well made, though the requirements to run it are huge. For me I'd maybe like to try older games out, but in the end I'm still going to be sticking with the new stuff for the most part. After usually are massively improved upon and have multiplayer capability. I just think by this kind of pricing they're attracting a smaller group while the rest will just emulate it elsewhere.
noahsdad
24 Jan 16 #110
So has anyone played this multiplayer yet? It plays really well on the Wii U's screen gamepad and still looks good. On my 37" Samsung TV, is quite grainy and the driving is eratic and hard to control watching the TV (seem to fly all over the place).

Solution is probably to use a 14" - 20" TV if you have one? The smaller display and smaller resolution capacity should improve things?
aibon
25 Jan 16 #111
Can confirm this is the full speed 60hz version, not like the crappy 50hz version they had on the old Wii virtual console.Only cost £1.79 because I already had it on the old Wii VC.
noahsdad
26 Jan 16 #113
Whats an avatar got to do with anything? I am transparent, I am a Nintendo fan. As said before I have no interest in XBOX/PS, not that I don't think they have something to offer, just not my thing. Quite content with Nintendo, and you never see me in the XBOX/PS deal threads, posting negativity about those consoles.

So let me ask you, someone with 30 or so deals posted on your account, who has only posted XBOX/PS deals, whatever brings you over to Wii U deal threads? It just looks like you have a hatred of Nintendo and need to voice it?
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