This thread has brought out the plebs in full force.

I wouldn't buy Lenovo ever again, bought a Z70 and a lot of people are having issues with a manufacturing defect which Lenovo acknowledged half a year ago with no further word since. I sent my Laptop in to get repaired and it was refused due to it being a manufacturing defect, just managed to get them to send it off again so I'll see how it goes... But that's definitely the last Lenovo laptop I will buy.

refurb so battery is no doubt gonna be pants

took the 499 john lewis lenovo z51 back at xmas as screen viewing v poor. At this price it's tempting. ..

Good price! Hot from me.
Not heard of this XS company before, are they any good?

I'll take a lenovo over hp any day but I'd rather buy proper Thinkpads used for the much higher build quality than the low end gear.

If you're after a cheap laptop then this is a good buy

I had a Lenovo thinkpad for about 4 years for work before switching to a Surfacepro 3 (yuck) and the build quality was fantastic - we therefore didn't hesitate to get a refurbed thinkpad with i5 processor for our son who use the office suite for uni and also does some light gaming. That was over a year ago and it's still going strong for a little under £150 from one of the many eBay sellers. I would probably look for another deal like that rather than this one but if this is the model you are after, it looks like a pretty good deal to me.

Looks interesting, any comments on the screen quality or battery life?

That's why I only buy from Amazon.

Fortunately least this model doesn't have on SD card slot next to the trackpad. I use a cheap Lenovo laptop and the plastic above the card slot has split. Ridiculously thin and brittle and terrible design choice.

Saw the AMD A10 version of the Z50 (8GB 1TB) in John Lewis (Norwich) for £215 on Wednesday. In the clearance section - sold as used but with 2 year guarantee. Seemed to have a worryingly large number of Lenovo returns.

Do this company only deal in refurbs? Anyone had experience of buying from them and the condition they come in?

....the warranty type changes so it doesn't cover manufacturing defects... this does'nt sound right - what else would a warranty cover? it won't cover faults due to higher than reaonable wear and tear - I would look at the fine print of your wrranty from JL.

Go back to John Lewis; let then argue the case with Lenovo. Depends allot on who is providing the 2nd years warranty; my bet is JL have a policy that provides it and Lenovo only provide a 1 yr warranty with their products.

If however Lenovo are providing the 2nd year's warranty and won't honour it; then claim back of JL and suggest they better stop selling all Lenovo products.

Got a brand new Lenovo around July, box undamaged. The chasis of the laptop was bent, the DVD drive didn't close correctly, it powered on but the CPU would get to 90*C and throttle. Sent it back to Lenovo, still waiting a replacement. Bought a Dell for less money and its a much more powerful system with a 4K touch screen, backlit keyboard and an SSD + HHD and a better GPU. I doubt I'd think about buying Lenovo.

Also these Intel ####U CPU's are pathetic, they're worthy of netbooks, they seriously lack processing power. Fine for browsing or maybe word processing. Anyone looking for a proper computer should avoid.

I bought a Lenovo . Felt like smashing it up the wall after a month . Windows 8.1 drove me nuts and the bloody thing was always trying to update and failing . I don't have the interest in computers to mess about with them , just want to boot it up and use it.

Bought a chromebook instead, which boots up in seconds and works . For anything else I have a works Laptop

This thread has brought out the plebs in full force.

Why a nightmare? Why ebuyer should refund it after 6 weeks? Anything wrong with asking for some self diagnostic tests using dedicated software? Did you have to pay for the postage? Come on, maybe you should buy an Apple - only on and off with very few options ( tip - the Apple stuff break too)...any electronic device will contain some imperfections and there is no simple way to identify it. It takes time, it's no always straightforward and often they will have to check it in depth in order to fix it.

I am not sure that was technically right of ebuyer

​Mine died within 6 wks of purchase. ebuyer refused to refund. Had to contact lenovo. They emailed me software. I had to download it on to laptop, carry out some rests & then email the results to them. Then I had to send the laptop to Germany for repair. Absolute nightmare!

Old 2nd hand quaint 4th gen low powered i5 with poor battery life when new, lumbered with a slow HD and pretty average fHD screen.

Thanks, have heat! Cheap enough, replacing an ageing Vaio.

This is the retailer (John Lewis), who said they sent it to Lenovo.
They were talking some rubbish about because it's been more than a year (I have a 2 year warranty) the warranty type changes so it doesn't cover manufacturing defects

Not that easy with an unwilling retailer.

Thanks for pointing that out, I hadn't noticed that bit, but it's not a problem as you say.

​Why are you faffing about with Lenovo? Go to the retailer invoke SOGA and get it replaced.

The keyboard seems fine on this model. Bought a new HP last year and it stopped working after 3 months. Fortunately Argos gave me a full refund. I suppose faults can happen with most companies

It has a us keyboard layout So a couple of the keys are different but it's no big deal

Seems pretty easy to upgrade the ssd and memory on this. Quite tempted now.

Battery lasts about 4 hours on mine. Screen seems ok to me. No complaints.

I wouldn't buy Lenovo ever again, bought a Z70 and a lot of people are having issues with a manufacturing defect which Lenovo acknowledged half a year ago with no further word since. I sent my Laptop in to get repaired and it was refused due to it being a manufacturing defect, just managed to get them to send it off again so I'll see how it goes... But that's definitely the last Lenovo laptop I will buy.