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LAP GLS LED Lamps Cool White BC 8.7W Pack of 5 - Light Bulbs £9.99 at Screwfix
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LAP GLS LED Lamps Cool White BC 8.7W Pack of 5 - Light Bulbs £9.99 at Screwfix

£9.99 Screwfix8 Jan 16
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Opening post
D9X
7 Jan 16
My first post. Thought I would repost the deal from last week as they were oos. Just ordered.
Top comments
c00kiemonster72 to DarcyHart
7 Jan 16 11 #9
Collect?
NitrousUK
8 Jan 16 4 #102
Or you could just do the math... assuming replacing 75w bulbs:
75w-8.7w = 66.3w (energy saving)
66.3 * 15,000hrs = 994500wh (watt-hours, over bulb lifetime. Assuming 8 hours a day, that's 5~ years)
/1000 = 994kwh (total saved energy usage in kwh)
994kwh * £0.1 = £99.45 (assuming rate of 10p/kwh, conservative)

£99.45 * 5 bulbs = £497.25 (total saving with 5 bulbs)

So yes, hundreds indeed. Perhaps before you start being condescending and patronising, check your facts first. Took me literally 1 minute to work out.
kevinyork to gsj87
8 Jan 16 4 #33
I think the words 'non dimmable' in the bullet points on their product page might be the giveaway.....
kazdean to benjai
7 Jan 16 4 #16
No these are non-dimmable :laughing:
All comments (159)
hafizpatel
7 Jan 16 2 #1
These are nice and bright.
topgun06
7 Jan 16 #2
Good value. Good bulbs.
Obidashi
7 Jan 16 1 #3
Many thanks just ordered some
suziemaclondon
7 Jan 16 #4
Purchased these before. They are excellent. Will get some more. Thanks for posting!
bluetiger_grr
7 Jan 16 #5
Thanks, I've been waiting for these to come back in stock.
stealth666
7 Jan 16 #6
Recommended....
winchman
7 Jan 16 #7
Wouldn't you want warm white, bit softer.
Supercharged to winchman
7 Jan 16 1 #19
With shades these are really nice - not too blue or yellow.

More like 75W replacements too as 806Lumen
damadgeruk to winchman
7 Jan 16 #29
Nope, daylight every time, cool white at push. Life would be boring if we were all the same.
DarcyHart
7 Jan 16 #8
£5 postage though - anyway around this?
c00kiemonster72 to DarcyHart
7 Jan 16 11 #9
Collect?
DarcyHart
7 Jan 16 #11
Not a super local Screwfix by me. :disappointed:
benjai
7 Jan 16 1 #12
So dim...
kazdean to benjai
7 Jan 16 4 #16
No these are non-dimmable :laughing:
NitrousUK to benjai
8 Jan 16 1 #76
The bulb or your comment?
montana78
7 Jan 16 #13
are there any 4w versions for this price too?
dodgymix
7 Jan 16 #14
Spam
masif1 to dodgymix
10 Jan 16 #138
​I picked mine up yesterday and replaced all the bc bulbs I had except 1 (as I need 6). These are definitely brighter than the traditional energy saving 20w ones I had. Or it may have something to do with the fact that they turn on bright instantly rather than the gradual brightness of the energy saving ones. I wish I'd purchased another pack. If toolstation have the less brighter ones I may go for them. Thanks again for the post!
monty9120
7 Jan 16 #15
ive got the spotlights and seem ok. managed to pick up a few cheap cfls from work so cant justify swapping until they pop lol
rugman
7 Jan 16 1 #17
grabbed a box of these a little while ago, they are great, as bright if not brighter than a regular 60w, and unlike energy saving ones, instant fullk brightness when switched on. Just ordered another box for collection, thanks OP

Anyone recommend any like these but a dimmable version ?
masif1
7 Jan 16 #18
Order for collection. Thanks, have some well deserved heat!
releaseyourself
7 Jan 16 #20
Bought these back in November. Brilliant bulbs. Perfect white light and very bright. Very impressed with these highly recommended. Hot!
davenfish
7 Jan 16 #21
Ordered for my dad.
Thank you.
m7teen
7 Jan 16 2 #22
thank you just bought + voted hot
trying to save on electricity bills...
...so i can spend more on HUKD
:P
Jonnyblock
7 Jan 16 #23
Do leds last longer than your traditional?
paulandpam1 to Jonnyblock
8 Jan 16 #37
They last a lot longer than traditional incadescent bulbs but compared to cfl I'm not yet convinced on their stated llifespan as they're newish technology I suppose we'll only really know for sure in a few years.
I bought these bulbs (in the warm white option) a few weeks ago and was surprised at how they were so different to the same wattage LEDs I bought 6 months earlier.
These are a lot brighter for the wattage and weigh very similar to a traditional bulb were as my slightly older LED bulbs are quite heavy and not as bright.
Bogart to Jonnyblock
8 Jan 16 #100
Ever so slightly around 10 times as long.
fireblade128
7 Jan 16 #24
ordered the warm white, thanks
Lazyoaf
7 Jan 16 #25
the promo code has expired though
k7gixerboy
7 Jan 16 #26
Brilliant!, thanks OP, ordered! Needed the screwfix taps on here too so got 2 mixer taps & a pack of bulbs for £55 & free delivery!, looked at similar bulbs to these at near £10 each!, hell of a saving!!
VeedubyaGTi
7 Jan 16 #27
Ordered the warm white, thanx op +heat :wink:
SFconvert
7 Jan 16 1 #28
How do these compare to the toolstation ones on here a while ago. I got some of those and they seem good, though find skin tones look a little grey if directly under them, which seems a common issue with the cheaper (non Philips or osram) bulbs
gsj87
8 Jan 16 #30
Are these dimmable?
kevinyork to gsj87
8 Jan 16 4 #33
I think the words 'non dimmable' in the bullet points on their product page might be the giveaway.....
ansarch
8 Jan 16 #31
6w = 60w with 25000 hours life and A++ rating , can be bought from eBay for the same price
lukeDduke to ansarch
8 Jan 16 #43
Link please
kevinyork
8 Jan 16 1 #32
Had cool white before and it felt like being inside a fridge. Now go for warm white everywhere but the kitchen where I go with daylight types.
Bigfootpete
8 Jan 16 3 #34
I think they should rename cool white - harsh white :confused:
fmillington
8 Jan 16 #35
Thanks for this, missed out the last time! Ordered a box of each so hopefully won't need to buy a new bulb for a long long time...
Blueandy99
8 Jan 16 1 #36
I changed every bulb in our house to LED and it made a massive difference to our energy useage.
If I didn't have the wifi energy consumption meter to prove it I would never have believed it.

There is a little bit of luck needed though, I've had a couple blow quite early on in their life, the last a phillips LED did me for about 3 hours and they don't take them back.
simate to Blueandy99
8 Jan 16 #38
Who doesn't take them back? I had an LED die after 2 months, took it back to Homebase and got a refund no problem.

LAP bulbs are great. I have a dimmable one in the front room, no buzzing or flickering whereas an Ikea one I also have buzzes and flickers like mad. That is down to the dimmer switch not being 'compatible' but if LAP can do it then so can all the other manufacturers.

I've got one of these in my outside light, my review on there also has a couple of photos. Again, a good bulb that looks nice too and works well so far. http://www.screwfix.com/p/lap-candle-led-lamp-clear-es-2w/8251f
Wadadli_Cooler
8 Jan 16 #39
FYI there are 4 options available at the same price - bayonet and screw each with cool or warm white.
fireman1
8 Jan 16 #40
What do you spend your extra £3.50 a year on?
What did you spend your extra £3.50 a year on?
LuckyDavid
8 Jan 16 #41
Ordered. Appreciate the effort.
jonspurs
8 Jan 16 #44
LED vs CCFL/Energy saving bulbs - which is brighter? Lasts longer? Uses less energy?
jonspurs to jonspurs
8 Jan 16 #45
thespiderpig
8 Jan 16 #46
I have the warm white ones, they are great. Start up like a normal bulb and nice and bright straight away
wackojacko99
8 Jan 16 #47
About the same price (£2) at Home Bargains.
STi_prodrive
8 Jan 16 #48
Are these cheaper then halogen bulbs to run ?
HTFCLUKE to STi_prodrive
8 Jan 16 1 #51
Yes thats the main selling point
Jonj1611 to STi_prodrive
8 Jan 16 1 #53
Very rough chart :-

http://www.yougen.co.uk/i/blog/133595378007742.png
Supercharged
8 Jan 16 1 #49
Is that including the price of lamps though and swapping from normal energy savers?

You can save huge amounts compared to normal / old lamps, especially people with 60W kitchen spots of 50X GU10's

I'm almost full LED now and me electric has gone from £57 a month when we moved in (100W globes all over the place) to £13 now!! Obviously depends on what you have but there are huge savings to be made and now they are less than £2 each, the outlay is not so big.
jasejames
8 Jan 16 #50
Think the problem with the LED bulbs at the moment is the manufacturers quote the lifetime of the LEDs, which only works under ideal conditions. Some bulbs get too hot and that is why the fail.

These ones seem very good in terms of light output for the money. The only slight complaint is that the warm white bulbs are very warm, almost reddish. But you get used to it.
BubaMan
8 Jan 16 #52
Ordered the warm whites - cheers :smiley:
Blueandy99
8 Jan 16 #54
[i]i]

If it's OK I'll just put the one reply up, how many light bulbs do I have in the house Fireman 1?
How many GU10s did I used to have that are now LED?

Please let me know then we can calculate the energy savings accurately together.
Thoughtful
8 Jan 16 2 #55
Having spoken to one of the major UK distributors, these lamps are only intended to work pointing downwards. If they are mounted in a wall fitting where they are upright, there is no light at all emitted in a downward direction, you only get the reflected light.
Be aware of this before you buy !
bob_a to Thoughtful
8 Jan 16 #68
Are there are any LED lamps that will work ok in lampshades where the lamps are mounted in an upwards direction?
pjk to Thoughtful
8 Jan 16 #83
Liked by mistake - I really need a carer sometimes. Anyway, I've not found this to be true in general usage - at least with similar looking LED lamps that I've had from Wilkinson's. The light is diffused from the "globe" and looks just like any other lamp when it's switched on. While I can see in theory it might be much less, in practice it doesn't seem to make a significant difference.
plewis00 to Thoughtful
8 Jan 16 #113
I fitted this in a bathroom light where the bulb points sideways in a diffuser and it's noticeably different and darker (behind the bulb) than the incandescent one, it's a real consideration and quite important! I kept it fitted as the reduced heat and power consumption was worth it more to me.
GarryRF
8 Jan 16 #56
Cool white is closer to the white you get from the sun. Warm white is similar to the light from old type bulbs with a glowing element. LED bulbs run cold by comparison with old bulbs. Cool white is recommended for kitchens and bathrooms. LED bulbs can be left on when the house is empty to give a lived in look - when Jimmy Scally is looking for something to rob. 12 hours for 1 penny. with a Screwfix 8.7watt lamp. I've used 30 of these new bulbs so far with no complaints from customers.
jcwheeler94
8 Jan 16 1 #57
hotttttttt! looking at a fiver each for good quality normally
Go-cart Mozart
8 Jan 16 #58
Highly recommend
Trax
8 Jan 16 #59
Ordered the warm whites ..many thanks :smiley:
bordonman
8 Jan 16 #60
Where did you get that idea? 60-watt incandescent bulb = 800 lumens, this bulb 89.5x8.7= 778 lumens slightly less than a 60watt
kembiff
8 Jan 16 #61
Thanks. Code seems to have no effect on price though.
Orville
8 Jan 16 #62
Best go for warm-white rather than cool-white. The cool-white provides a slightly fake lighting which turned my pastel blue living room purple. I swapped to warm-whites which were more accurate.
damadgeruk to Orville
8 Jan 16 1 #103
More accurate colour will be shown by daylight, not warm white (assuming same CRI). You are obviously entitled to your preference though.
I just tested one of the cool ones I collected yesterday, removed already as too warm for me. I think people are typically reluctant to try daylight though I am finding more and more converts. With so little daylight at this time of year why wouldn't you want to increase daylight at home?
PSmith222
8 Jan 16 1 #63
you can also get a 5 pack for £9.98 from toolstation.
(warm light)
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/p39839
http://cdn.toolstation.com/images/141020-UK/800/39839.jpg
badasschris to PSmith222
8 Jan 16 #65
These as good do you think? I have a toolstation round the corner from me but screwfix is 15 min drive
Jimmy67
8 Jan 16 #64
Thanks, always on the lookout for decent low wattage bulbs
jimmy2007
8 Jan 16 #66
A wholr penny less at toolstation for the warm White (39839)

http://www.toolstation.com/m/part.html?p=39839

Sorry, already mentioned.
They're very good!
bordonman
8 Jan 16 #67

I changed all our bulbs over to LED's, but gradually going back to cfls.The LED's are very nice, but over a period of 12months about 50% have failed. I don't know if that's an inherent problem, or the fact they're being churned out in China.
gwapenut
8 Jan 16 #69
Where did you buy yours, and which brand were they?
bordonman
8 Jan 16 #70
Do you live in Buckingham Palace and have lights on all the time?. £43 reduction is using 478KW/hrs less that's 4,780 hours for a 100w bulb or 50 bulbs running for 95hours
djh1975
8 Jan 16 #71
LED bulbs really came down in 2015, every household should have these now to save hundreds every year.
fishmaster
8 Jan 16 3 #72
Cool white is if you want your house lit up like a morgue. It has a strange eerie weird nasty horrible hue.
Thoughtful
8 Jan 16 #73
Yes, but not at a price anyone would consider close to reasonable.

https://www.wholesaleledlights.co.uk/dimmable-b22-6w-omni-led-clear-globe.html

The main problem the lighting industry has is with incompetent designers who have failed to even consider that the old incandescent lights have now gone obsolete, and that they need new designs for the Fluorescent low energy types.
Other than that if you are using the normal low energy lamps there's no good reason to change to LED as there is no energy saving and the extra cost is difficult to justify.
bob_a
8 Jan 16 #74
Virtually all my light fittings point upwards, I like them so don't want to change them.
I've tried CFL's but don't like them so have settled for halogen inside a traditional bulb shape until the right LED comes along
gsj87
8 Jan 16 #75
Brought a pack of cool white to put in the hallways and kitchen, and a pack of warm white for the bedrooms and living rooms, HOT
DJC31
8 Jan 16 #78
I'm having problems putting a order through on the website. Is anyone else?
sprout53
8 Jan 16 #79
Just collected from local screwfix, great price for 5 bulbs
fireman1
8 Jan 16 #80
Amazing really how people buy into things isn't. This guy is saving unfeasible amounts. Maybe the neighbour tapping into his electrics to run his cannabis farm got busted at the same time by coincidence!
Another poster says he will save hundreds! yeah right.
Yes you will save money, but hundreds of pounds, no chance! collectively as a nation or worldwide the savings are considerable to reduce co2 but as a household don't buy into savings of hundreds by swapping out a few bulbs!
fireman1
8 Jan 16 #81
If it's OK I'll just put the one reply up, how many light bulbs do I have in the house Fireman 1?
How many GU10s did I used to have that are now LED?

Please let me know then we can calculate the energy savings accurately together.[/quote]

I would imagine you are in a better position to answer that question.
Ok, If you want me guess I will assume you used to run a thousand gu10 bulbs for 23 hours a day and you have swapped them out for 2 led bulbs that you never turn on.
lutin to fireman1
8 Jan 16 1 #89
Jesus mate, drop it. The guy said he was saving money by having LED bulbs, it's not worth getting worked up over.
cochin007
8 Jan 16 #82
cold since they don't have in Northampton and looks like the low priced items are not stocked at all in most places ...Only to show in website and not available for even ordering
redbutcher to cochin007
8 Jan 16 2 #99
Toolstation Northampton have them.
t0m3k
8 Jan 16 1 #84
There is something wrong with people in UK. It's still warm white. And all bulbs in all shops I ever saw are warm not even white. Its OK in your bedroom as warm light makes you feeling sleepy but if it's everywhere it makes you feeling tired and depressed all time. Im not using warm light before 8pm.
everything under 4700k is warm, between 4700k and 6000k is daylight and above is cool light.
Now go and try to buy some bulb for your living room :smiley:
That's probably why in continent we used to call you depressed nation :smile:
pjk
8 Jan 16 #85
The Wilkinson ones that look very much like these are fine in standard shades - I noticed no difference at all. When I looked just now, having been alerted to the fact they weren't good, I could say there's maybe a small difference on the floor immediately below but as I said in a previous post it's really not significant.
fishmaster
8 Jan 16 #86
I just went and bought 5x 10W LED Warm White, link is on this thread. They're perfect, nice warm glow and bright enough. However I wanted some GU10s as well and Toolstation maxed out at 5W, so I went over to Screwfix and got 5x 5.8W Warm White GU10 LEDs for £24.99, they're good with what I regard as a proper light temperature.
Gollywood
8 Jan 16 #88
I hate the usual energy bulbs that came in with such a huge fanfare. Simply not bright enough.

Are these like those or do they give off a bright/white light? Thanks
Tabintab
8 Jan 16 #90
I would take that report with a pinch of salt. Some of the facts are total BULL. I have year old CFLs in most of my rooms and they instantly light. The report fails to mention failure modes of LED's, like they hate heat & fail very quickly when they get to hot, so this is a very bias piece of journalism.
jmonee
8 Jan 16 #91
Toolstation also do a similar deal, although these maybe brighter as they are a higher wattage. These too are excellent bulbs!
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/p39839?table=no
pjk
8 Jan 16 1 #92
I consider warm as 3000k, extra warm as 2700k. There's an obvious visual difference between even those two. Old style incandescent lamps are around 2700k. From experience even 2700k light before bedtime can have a negative effect on sleep, and bad sleep patterns are just as likely to make you feel depressed.
michaeljb
8 Jan 16 #93
Someones growing something they're not suppose to be :stuck_out_tongue:
Shaunyac
8 Jan 16 #94
Thanks, picked up 3 boxes today, got warm for myself and when I told my mother about the deal she wanted some for herself and her mum! They got the cool white bulbs which I don't like, too harsh and sterile. I've bought the warm bulbs for living room and bedroom ceiling lights, look lovely! Heat!
ELVIS_THE_PELVIS
8 Jan 16 1 #95
What bright spark posted this deal...
loueylemon
8 Jan 16 #96
Thanks - ordered the warm white :smiley:
PumpyJoe4
8 Jan 16 #97
Cheers, picked up a box earlier. Seem a very good build. I've bought LED bulbs from ebay at a similar price, but they were from China (took about 3 weeks to arrive), unbranded, and with no warranty. These have a 3 year warranty.

For general use around the house I'd always go for warm white, bit more yellow. I find bright white is too harsh and glaring.

LED bulbs do have specific angles, which is actually a good thing as they're more customisable, but it can cause confusion for those just wanting them for general use. One of these fills a normal sized room with plenty of light.
Bogart to PumpyJoe4
8 Jan 16 #101
lotuschap
8 Jan 16 #98
While I realise these are a fair price, led bulbs in poundland are a pound each and are just a standard stock item. Is there a specific reason why these are worth paying the extra for?
NitrousUK
8 Jan 16 4 #102
Or you could just do the math... assuming replacing 75w bulbs:
75w-8.7w = 66.3w (energy saving)
66.3 * 15,000hrs = 994500wh (watt-hours, over bulb lifetime. Assuming 8 hours a day, that's 5~ years)
/1000 = 994kwh (total saved energy usage in kwh)
994kwh * £0.1 = £99.45 (assuming rate of 10p/kwh, conservative)

£99.45 * 5 bulbs = £497.25 (total saving with 5 bulbs)

So yes, hundreds indeed. Perhaps before you start being condescending and patronising, check your facts first. Took me literally 1 minute to work out.
G0OSE
8 Jan 16 #104
Just bought and fitted 10 of the warm white- very impressed indeed, very bright. I work in a national electrical wholesaler and I can't even get lamps in led this cheap ( at cost +1p!) so these are also very cheap.
I hope they last well, but with a 3 year warranty so long as you keep your receipt you have no worries.
damadgeruk
8 Jan 16 1 #105
Warm white = 2700K (all +/- 500ish)
Cool white = 4000K
Daylight white = 6000K
Daylight white has been shown to reduce SAD, though can have a negative impact on sleep if used before bedtime.
pjk
8 Jan 16 1 #106
Daylight for daytime is fine and for colour work you do need something cool. But for not messing with your sleep patterns you need warm white in the evening and preferably dim warm white just before bed. People get used to (and like) unnatural things but warm white, actually orange/red light in the evening is the natural choice and will disrupt your sleep the least.
Supercharged
8 Jan 16 2 #107
Thanks for that... so basically that's saying over 1 year, 5 lamps can save £100 and I've done around 30 lights.

Obviously not all of these are on for 8 hours a day but still the savings can be huge so just trying to get this across to people!

So my current usage is now pretty much exactly 100kWh per month and I reckon around 40% of this usage (maybe half) is lighting... if you consider that the LEDs are using (on average) 10% of the power of what they replaced then you can see how I'm confident that the £100 outlay on the LED lamps had pretty much paid for itself already.

If you've currently got 11W energy savers all over the place you won't save much but it's people with lots of spot lights and 50W GU10's (get Wickes LEDs) that can make the difference, I've even done the cooker hood lamps which are on quite a bit - 2x1.4W replacing 2x40W!
glendin
8 Jan 16 #108
Thx. Ordered 2 lots. Heat added.
Supercharged
8 Jan 16 #109
Because I've fitted them and they appear to be noticeably brighter!

These are 806Lumen by the way according to the box (Cool White BC)
redheap
8 Jan 16 #110
upvoted from me /Ive just bought a set of of these warm white. They are instant on with no waiting for it to brighten. Id rate it at about 70w equivalent brightness and has the same orange colour tint of normal filament light bulbs.
liamwba1
8 Jan 16 1 #111
Picked some of the cool white up today and just fitted them. Incredibly bright compared to our old energy saving light bulbs and excellent value for a tenner.
Lorian
8 Jan 16 #112
Bought 2 lboxes and fitted (warm white). Excellent bulbs. They turn on a few milliseconds slower than my (very expensive in comparison) Philips LEDs, but overall excellent performance. No more in stock in my store now, so have ordered more to store to collect tomorrow. Heat.
chiz78
8 Jan 16 #114
Reserved online collected today, there are very good..! Cheers
m0nk3y
8 Jan 16 #115
fitted 5 warm white tonight around the house. I think they are fantastic for £2 a piece. Better than other energy saving bulbs. Will buy some more
speedemon
8 Jan 16 #116
Thanks OP! parents bought warm white and they look very nice. Much brighter than standard Energy saving ones they had and even though they are warm white they are slightly less "yellow" than the old bulbs which is better as the walls looked really yellowy.
Haven't bought the cool white but would imagine they'd be very bluish-white given the warm ones aren't considerably yellow anyway.
Voodle to speedemon
8 Jan 16 #117
I (accidentally) went for the cool white bulbs, they're not blue but they're definitely more white than the warm white bulbs I would usually get. I actually quite like it though, two of them are lighting my living room that previously had two 20w energy saver bulbs - slightly less bright than those but those bulbs were slightly too bright anyway.
I'm finding the light from them sufficiently bright and the colour is more like a slightly dim daytime :smiley:
fireman1
8 Jan 16 #118
So according to his figures your going to save £600 a year swapping your bulbs! Good luck with that one.

Some fairly exaggerated assumptions in your figures to to bump the savings. 75 watt bulbs for starters. 60 is the common maximum and most people use much lower. Even then many would be using lower wattage 60 watt equivalent and not actual 60's.
As stated, most people will be swapping out 11w energy savers for better light and miniscule savings seeing as you cant even buy old style high power bulbs anymore in UK shops. Also 8 hours a day every single day on an old style 75 watt bulb is a ridiculous assumption. Do you live in a tanning salon.
Othmanyas
9 Jan 16 #119
Ordered, thanks
speedemon
9 Jan 16 #120
That's interesting... So these cool white are not so bluish then and more of a mid or daylight colour?
Only reason I ask if cause a couple of years ago I got some cool white from LED hut and they were very stark clinical looking. In hindsight, not a great decision. Overtime and through more experience ive found some warm white bulbs to be more borderline "daytime" which I think is nicer as some are way to yellow.
NitrousUK
9 Jan 16 1 #121
You seem to be very confused by the numbers. Reducing the replaced bulb to 60w reduces the total savings by £22.5, to £76.95 per bulb. Which brings the savings to £384.75 for these 5 bulbs. So still many hundreds.
The 8 hours a day is nothing to do with the calculations or the total saving, they are an example of how long you could expect to see the return. What else is there "exaggerated"?
And if you actually read the posts you replied to, it was not stated they were replacing energy savers, but clearly stated 60-100w bulbs.
You seem intent on not admitting you were wrong, but by all means continue to try and argue against numbers..

How about an article to reiterate my point? They actually assume 10 hours a day, (some people are retired, work at home,etc), and a "typical" energy cost of 12.2p/kwh, not the 10p/kwh I assumed. So my numbers are actually conservative.
bob_a
9 Jan 16 #122
Thanks for the reply :smiley:
Good to know about the Wilkinson's but it looks like they are £7-£8 each.
bob_a
9 Jan 16 #123
I'm looking for LED bulbs suitable for these type of fittings. With my ageing eyes I need bulbs with a good spread of light, I don't want mood lighting. Wilkinson appear to do them for £7-£8 each but I was hoping to get them cheaper.
Also regarding the cool/warm debate does it matter as much when the bulbs sit inside these type of shadeshttp://www.thelightingsuperstore.co.uk/images/fs/4/1805-3sc.jpg
damadgeruk to bob_a
9 Jan 16 #125
I have a silver car, can you tell me which fuel it requires? :wink: I would guess your light requires SES/E14 lamps though you seem unsure which colour you require. The fitting you have will accept warm, cool or daylight lamps in a variety of outputs. Many of my customers with failing eyesight find daylight most suitable though remember it may upset your sleep if used too late in the evening. Let me know and I'll get some suggestions for you.
Shaunyac to bob_a
9 Jan 16 1 #126
Personally I find the cool white to be too harsh and sterile, I've tried both the cool white and warm white and my personal preference is the warm white. Obviously if you put the light in a coloured shade or housing, the colour of the light won't have as much of an effect.

I found putting these bulbs facing up in a lamp with a shade, there's a lot less light being given off into the room than when they're facing down from the ceiling in a shade as they are quite directional compared to standard bulbs.
barkinglama
9 Jan 16 #124
Just picked up a pack, instant on very bright would say near 100W equiv
ispookie666
9 Jan 16 #127
just bought these. they are advertised as cool white. but in fact they are 4000k which is day white.. not cool white
speedemon to ispookie666
9 Jan 16 #128
Does it say
speedemon to ispookie666
9 Jan 16 #129
Does it say 4000k on the box?
bob_a
9 Jan 16 #130
Hi my post was in two parts.
First part is that I require bulbs for the type of fittings shown. It was mentioned earlier that the bulbs in the original post emitted light mostly from the top making them unsuitable for that type of fitting as most of the light would be directed at the ceiling.
If you can help then I have 3 fittings similar to the one shown in my post that use BC connectors and used in conjunction with dimmers
I have another fittings which is very similar but it has SES fittings and without a dimmer.
I also have another fitting that looks similar but it does not have shades so the bulb can be seen. That uses SES candle bulbs and is used without a dimmer.
As regards cool/warm I was going to buy a couple of each and then choose.

In the second part of my post I was just adding to the cool/warm argument by saying does it really matter if the bulb is in a shade that obscures the light?
damadgeruk
9 Jan 16 1 #131
Non-dimmable is obviously cheaper, I often use CPC, part numbers below. I find these give a decent spread of light though like many LED lamps they send more light in the direction they are pointing.
SES(E14) 5 Watt Warm white candle LP0784687 £3.50 each or £2.95 for 5 or more
SES(E14) 5 Watt Daylight white candle LP0784787 £3.50 each or £2.95 for 5 or more.
BC(B22) 5 watt Warm white candle LP0784287 £3.50 each or £2.95 for 5 or more
BC(B22) 5 Watt Daylight white candle LP0784387 £3.50 each or £2.95 for 5 or more.

Remember LEDs do not typically work with conventional dimmers, chances are you'll need to change them. I do not have a cheap source for dimmable GLS, golf ball or candle lamps as I only use dimmable GU10. I'll have a look for dimmable. I am aware I have given you warm and daylight options only, may get time to find cool white though I am particularly fond of daylight, I'd recommend you try it.
Shaunyac
9 Jan 16 #132
Does anyone know if Screwfix do store transfers? After showing both my aunts the bulbs they want some but the closest store with stock is a good few miles away, I was wondering if they would send some to another store if I rang up?
Lorian to Shaunyac
9 Jan 16 1 #137
No, and both warm and the other are both out of stock for delivery to home or store now. You just have to get lucky and find some in stock. My local store has 6 packs of cool white and no warm white.
blindmansden
9 Jan 16 #133
Missed out if I went yesterday they had 5 packs in stock ordered last pack went to pick up guess what they can not find it so got the last pack of the warm white instead not bad with a 3 year guarantee but just one question when one goes do you have to take them all back or will they just replace one
Lorian to blindmansden
9 Jan 16 #136
It will be more of a question of them having stock or not at the time.
columnist
9 Jan 16 #134
Good deal, used it and worked well. Not sure if the price was special price and may not continue for ever
Airframe
9 Jan 16 #135
At <£2 per bulb these are a good buy. I already have seven 'LongLifeCo' R63 LED's in the kitchen and they have performed exceptionally well. Today I replaced the rest of the bulbs in the house with a mix of these LAP GLS bulbs and same spec (806 lumen) Phillips GLS bulbs (these were on offer last week at B&Q for £4 each). There is no obvious difference in brightness/warmth, however my only minor complaint is the LAP bulbs have a very short delay in start up, the other brands I have are instant.
single_lonely
10 Jan 16 #139
Was wandering it comes with a 3year warranty. Do they do a refund at screwfix if one or all stop working before then. Or would we have to get intouch with the manufacturer? thanks
Shaunyac
10 Jan 16 #140
Thanks, the next closest store to me is 12 miles away which is a bit far as my Aunts only asked if I could pick some up if they're local.
bob_a
10 Jan 16 #141
Will these candle bulbs give a good spread of light in the type of fitment that I've shown. I really don't want most of the light directed to the ceiling.
damadgeruk
10 Jan 16 2 #142
Yes, though lighting is very subjective. Photo of my daughters bedroom with three 5 Watt daylight versions of the candle...(assuming I've done it correctly)
http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu25/damadgeruk/20160110_162742.jpg
bob_a
10 Jan 16 1 #143
Thank you for taking the time to do that it's very much appreciated :smiley:
laperlenoire
10 Jan 16 #144
these are great.
styla
11 Jan 16 #145
Quick Question guys:

If one of them stops working would these be replaced in screwfix? Or would we have to contact the manucaturer?

Bough some OSRAM LED bulbs today in tescos at £10 each! Gutted!
Lorian
11 Jan 16 #146
I thought I'd investigate what to do if a bulb fails. So I looked at the box and its a little devoid of contact information. However there is a barcode, and underneath that it says "Powersmith Ltd BA22 8RT". When I google that postcode it seems to be at least one of the registered addresses for Screwfix themselves, so I suspect this is actually one of their own-brands, unless anyone knows better?
Batch_2001
11 Jan 16 #147
Thanks OP.

Bought 2 packs of these expecting to have a couple spare, then realised I forgot about the garage, second hall light. So went trough all 10 very easily.

Can't go wrong at £2 a pop (unless you don't like the colour of the light). Very short repay period, no brainer.
Shaunyac to Batch_2001
11 Jan 16 #148
We were the same, bought one pack and realised we needed a lot more so ended up buying 6 packs all together (for family too). Excellent value and will easily make their money back shortly.
Jonj1611
11 Jan 16 1 #149
Picked up a pack today. Working well and the instant on is such a bonus. The old lights used to take forever to "warm up" which was a novelty at first but just plain annoying in the end. As others have said though, used the five I bought in a matter of seconds, have to wait to more in stock to get some more. We need at least another 10 I expect.
badger1010
11 Jan 16 #150
Poundland has variety of LED lamps, candle and round with B22 (BC or bayonet cap) and SES (small screw) fitting. There didn't appear to be any B15 (small bayonet) though which is a shame as I could do with some.
5 watt is the most powerful I could find and it is remarkably bright, there are also lesser wattage units available.
jjav
12 Jan 16 #151
great, thanks got a couple of boxes, as all the low energy ones I had from years ago when they were cheap and energy companies and local authorities were giving them away have all finished, haven't bought bulbs for over 5/7 years , was astonished to see prices are now £3/4/5 + per bulb. this has come along at right time. However they are all out of stock now, at least near me they are.
jamesmalone
12 Jan 16 #152
Bought these and they seem a lot brighter than my old filament 60w bulbs. I do find the light a bit too white though, has anyone tried the Warm white ones is that more of a traditional hue?
Lorian to jamesmalone
12 Jan 16 #155
Yes of course, but you'll be very lucky to find any in stock now.
NitrousUK
12 Jan 16 1 #153
I can also attest to the performance of these bulbs. Very bright (easily 60w equiv), very even light, and nice warm colour. Perfect. It's just pure energy savings. Really a no brainer.
getmore4less
12 Jan 16 1 #154
Looks like Tesco may be clearing their Osram 10w 810lm warm seen for £1 b22 &e27

Probably store specific so just look out next visit.
edit :
these ones A60 around the same lm as the posted but 10w 4yr replacement warranty
http://www.osram.com/osram_com/products/led-technology/lamps/consumer-led-lamps-with-classic-bulbs/led-superstar-classic-a/index.jsp

Payback going from compact fluorescent is probably around 1000hr-1200hr/£
from incandescent is closer to 200hr
getmore4less
13 Jan 16 #156
Thinking about it I think a much better way to work out savings on use is the hours/£. against the typical equivalent or the actual ones you are using.

then factor in the lifestyle change better light and in some cases better looking(I am changing some spirals to the osram)

eg these 800lm are closer to 75w incandescent, or 14w CF.

Say 9w for these and 13p kwh savings are 66w and 5w that's 116hr/£ or 1500hr/£

Switching out incandescent is a no brainer(should have been done anyway) but you need the lights on a lot to save from a CF within a reasonable time, over 4 years that's 3000hr for the £2 units or 2hrs a day, very few of our light do 2hrs+ a day every day especially through the summer

If you live in a house where they are, might be an idea to get some windows :smiley:

Most of our CF were free or almost free as the energy companies were giving them away and there were always some on silly sale at like 10p when they change tech or packaging got a box full of them.
Musicrab
13 Jan 16 #157
Good deal if you need these. "Cool light" = 4000K is very white.
2 left at Farnham (GU10 - that's post code NOT light fitting)
Valeti
13 Jan 16 #158
Bargain! good find
rodman
2 Mar 16 #159
no stock in London?
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