Maybe you should stop reading the daily mail.......and read a proper report on E-Cigarette safety as posted above by chrissatchell already. link

If you use toothpaste and eat ice cream you are already consuming the base elements used in reputable E-Liquids.
Vegetable Glycerin and Propylene Glycol.


For good quality e-Liquids with excellent flavour at a sensible price try here.
http://www.onepoundeliquid.com

Why non smokers suddenly start smoking these things is beyond me! And pretty retarded!

I've done away with the middle man and just drink this.

Oh we have some right martyrs on this site. Yawn.

When did it become a debate about smoking/e-cigarettes anyway. The deal was posted as 29p is a decent price for a reasonable liquid.

Do we have a debate on how harmful alcohol is to the body each time a deal is posted for cheap booze? The answer is no.

Get off your soap boxes for goodness sake.

can you mix this with vodka

Hi,

need advice about these to switch from cigarettes.

Which is the best to buy etc?

What kit do I need to buy to start using these liquids?

Is a starter kit good?

Many Thanks in advance.

They still to be missing, the very clear, point.

So the pro-smokers still coming out with "don't look at me, look at something else" pass-the-buck dumb lines.

Is this national?

​The ingredients say Propylene Glycol, Vegetable Glycerin Flavouring, Nicotine. May contain traces of nuts. 18MG Nicotine. Hope that helps

So would I, to be fair.

That might be, but I can deal with it shampoo. Taken internally I do not react well to it at all. Your mileage will vary, I am sure.

Likewise, I'd rather avoid drunks in the street, but that's life and I don't judge them for it.

I'd rather my vices where ones that had some history, but each to their own. I don't really care what others do so long as they don't inflict it upon me.

propylene glycol is the main ingredient used to carry the medicine in asthma inhalers

Yes long term no-one has any evidence as so far it's only been around 7-8 years (approx) mainstream.
Doesn't make it any better than the other though - less people getting admitted for nicotine poisoning, driving while vaping, GBH while out on the jolly, etc.
We all have our vices, about time people were respectful of that.

I find it a little funny how people who post alcohol deals have a holier than thou attitude on e-cigarettes

They're not proven to be anything. It's thought that they cause lung scarring and pneumonia. This is still being researched at the moment.

A for propylene glycol which keeps being brought up, it's very different using it topically to having it inside your lungs. The potato analogy was fantastic.

I've bought a couple to try today and I like them. They are not as strong as some of the the other ones and actually feel allot like you are smoking a cigarette. I bought Virginia Tobacco and Apple. Both are better than the £3 ones you can buy from Amazon. I will be going back for more at that price.

you mean the NHS's attitude?

Typical smoker's attitude.

the 5% is essentially nicotine, the harm is that it is habit forming and causes dependancy. E-Cigarettes are now so well proven to be a healthier option the NHS will soon offer them, they're essentially now in the same ballpark as using nicotine gum/patches. People are much more likely to stick with them due to the fact it actually feels like the same sensation as smoking, then ween off the amount of nicotine over time.

If you don't want to breathe in anything harmful (studies have shown the only thing exhaled is clean vapour by the way so what your issue is I don't know) I suggest you never go outside again considering the amount of pollution in our air.

p.s. as someone who used to smoke 20 a day and have all sorts of health issues due to psoriasis affecting my immune system, since moving to vaping a few years ago I barely ever get ill or contract infections now, approximately 1/10 times i would used to. Be in denial all you want, the facts exist to support the benefits. Oh and will you also attack smirnoff ice/wkd for being more appealing to children? Chocolate cigarettes too?

So in other words 5% as harmful as tobacco cigs - which we all know are pretty nasty and do kill lots of people.

So no thanks I don't want to be breathing vape fumes from someone else in to my lungs. Someone says the same ingredients in toothpaste etc well risk reward there for me to consume what I have chosen (vs someone else's harmful fumes in the air) to clean my teeth and help stop tooth decay.

Big difference and I'm surprised ppl are even using these things in defense of e-cigs.

I was recently on a small bus that picked up some school kids and 3 of them - from a sample of say15-20 - broke out their e-cigs. And I have noticed an increase in the number of people smoking without filters and the last time I used a Tram in Manchester city centre someone got on announced he could do what the f*** he likes and lit up a tobacco cig right there.

So to me the whole cigarette thing needs regulating and policing more and I do feel there is a link between the two.

fyi, I've tried ones from Home Bargs before and they've been pretty poor but these are good as emergency ones, high PG and nicotine usually so not suitable for subtanks. If you're short on cash and need juice use onepoundeliquid (non-subtank & low wattage only really as the PG content means they would be very harsh otherwise) or shadow juice (pre-steeped, very very tasty and very cheap for what you get, 5x10ml £12 and you often get little free extra's like vapebands to protect your tank. high VG instead of PG and low nicotine options so fantastic for subtanks).

I buy 10 ltrs of vg for £25 and 5 ltr of pg for £20 and 1ltr of nicotine for £80 flavour concentrate are £2.50 for 30ml. So for around £140 I cane make around 1600 10ml bottles. I used to buy the bottles for £3 each.

Cheaper to make your own but still not bad for a 10ml bottle...

You should use an e liquid supplier that tests and provides results of lab tested liquids and that are diacetyl-free such as totally wicked it's a little more expensive but you can see what's inside the ingredients etc! https://www.totallywicked-eliquid.co.uk/
https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/threads/starting-a-list-of-diacetyl-free-ejuice-suppliers-please-keep-to-just-listing-the-supplier-names.129098/

Oh we have some right martyrs on this site. Yawn.

When did it become a debate about smoking/e-cigarettes anyway. The deal was posted as 29p is a decent price for a reasonable liquid.

Do we have a debate on how harmful alcohol is to the body each time a deal is posted for cheap booze? The answer is no.

Get off your soap boxes for goodness sake.

Yep pretty much!

new government regulation (TPD) will come into force soon and all these manufacturers will have to have all there liquids tested and certified. this company might be avoiding that for some reason or other so are trying to sell off whatever stock they have left.

In 50 years time people will be dropping like fly's "they said it was better than smoking"

Help save vaping - For those who are unware of the recent legislation in which a product that contains no tobacco will be classed as a tobacco product. :smirk:

The site should probably be titled "What the Tobacco Products Directive (TPD) MAY mean for you" though.

Doomsayers ahoy!

Let's face it even if you're not a scientist or doctor, an e-liquid is more than likely to be better than breathing in smoke from a cigarette

I don't know how to make the stuff but I only buy the big brands like cosmic fog, red vape and suicide bunny.
Not that it's healthier but I trust the brands more

I get my liquids from onepoundliquid - great value, my clearomisers last for ages with their liquids and the flavours are great.

They make all their product in the UK in proper clean room facilities - there are pics of their production areas on the website.

Cry me a river, they're bad for you. It's not rocket science

Well we've gotta reduce the population somehow :wink:

Use at your own risk I guess, main bad side is the attraction for children to use them and develop an addiction...

I read that these liquids contain all sorts of unregulated junk and can cause popcorn lung, which gives you the lungs of a chronic asthmatic for life. Giving up is good but replacing it with this, not so much.

Why non smokers suddenly start smoking these things is beyond me! And pretty retarded!

done a presentation on e cigs not too long ago. just ensure you know what is in this particular e CIG and the concentration of each. you do have to wonder why this one is cheap all of a sudden...

Probably best not to use these if you don't want to die.

I have seen you tube videos, but never got around to it. I am aware that you need 3 components to make the liquid. But I wonder how much do these cost to buy? How much would you make, and how much would you save compared to say bargains like 99p store etc?

I have seen you tube videos, but never got around to it. I am awarethat you need 3 components to make the liquid. But I wonder how much do these cost to buy? How much would you make, and how much would you save compared to say bargains like 99p store etc?

That reminds me... Benidorm is on tonight

(Not disputing anything).

But do you really think that you can compare items that you consume (stomach) to your lungs?

Maybe we should figure out how to get potatoes into our lungs.

Store specific

Nicotine content? :smiley:

And it is a bit ironic that loads of companies have gone to the government to supply e-cigs through the NHS, which have all been rejected, but the one of the biggest tobacco companies in the world BAT come up with one and hey presto the government have given it a licence so can buy through a chemist!!

And it is a bit ironic that loads of companies have gone to the government to supply e-cigs through the NHS, which have all been rejected, but the one of the biggest tobacco companies in the world BAT come up with one and hey presto the government have given it a licence so can buy through a chemist!!

Even better - GET OFF THE DRUGS!

I've found the most realistic flavour is achieved by collecting all the dog ends around, put them in a bucket and let them stew for a week then condense down and use.

Actually i thought she looked good for 35 :smirk:

forget buying these cheap crappy flavours. Its better and cheaper to make your own! And its easy to make it too, google it. Ever since I learned, I've not bought any for almost a year now and can make the top brand ones such as suicide bunny etc for cheap and I know exactly what's in it.

I make liquid myself, and even make it for a couple of work colleagues at fair prices. It's not difficult as long as you've got a basic grip of maths (there's good e-liquid calculator phone apps to give you quantities you need too)..

I haven't done an exact costing but the raw materials for 500ml of my liquid (I make 500ml at a time, it steeps as I decant it!) costs about £22 - and that's using expensive flavour concentrates @ £9 for 30ml (good for about 250ml finished product) and trustworthy suppliers of nicotine base, PG and VG.

No doubt I could get the cost down more but I'm still addicted to my Red Astaire and personally would rather stick to 'trustworthy' nicotine. Which basically means avoiding China where possible :smile:

So using that rough guide, for personal consumption, I pay around 44p per 10ml, not including the cost of bottles but for personal consumption I reuse bottles I've accumulated.

I guess I need to include other bits like syringes / pipettes e.t.c. but you get the idea, it's not that dear to make it yourself and you get a FAR better product than some of the cheap shop junk.

Mmm. Inhaling cheap chemicals. Lovely

Why do many attractive women smoke ??

tried these and the tobacco flavour is 29p worth

Good price but that's so cheap it's actually off putting.

More expensive I know but I'll happily stick with vapology as that's not killed me yet and I prefer a 80/20 PG/VG mix.

Wow, may go and grab some of these on the way home, I have anosmia and so does not matter if they are terrible flavours as I can't tell :smile:

What's the brand name and the flavours?

can u use these in oil burners?

I've done away with the middle man and just drink this.