heat just for correct mathematics so early in the day! :smile:

Been in this morning and no 15 packs of Guinness, just 8 packs for £6.99 which had a price label on top for 15 cans of Carling for £9.99 - maybe OP is wrong. Not vote either way.

I just look in Morrisons for the loose cans of Guinness, got 36 before Christmas for 49p a can.

Also, I would say Chester-le-Street is quite well known unlike others nearby, Pity Me, No Place etc....

Currently back at B&M Chester-Le-Street but they've all gone so I've expired the deal.
Congratulations to those who managed to get it.

great, I've been waiting for these to be under £10 for ages :man:

Chester-le-Street also famous as the birthplace of Bryan Robson, anyone with a Panini sticker album from the 70s or 80s would have heard of it from that. Good deal if you can get it but I've now switched from Guinness to Murphy's - £3 for a four pack at ASDA and has been that price for months now so no waiting for special offers. I now prefer the Murphy's over Guinness anyway.

Amazed people still buy Guinness, its clearly only Supermarkets and chain type pubs that still sell it, a dinosaur in a space age market.

Notice that non of the supermarkets were selling any multi pack crates on offer this Christmas. Worked out quite expensive buying them in 4 packs this year.

It's past it, old hat, boring. If it had just come to market nobody would buy it. Guinness is losing market share rapidly to the craft ale breweries and Guinness know it but other than the West Indies Porter everything they have come up with is rubbish - hell they even produce a lager now...

Maybe they should come out with a 'NEW' Guinness to liven it up like Coke did. That went well. The fact it has been around for a long time does not make it 'boring' or 'old hat' That it has been around for hundreds of years and enjoyed the world over is testament to its quality. If all you want is trendy - stick to WKD or whatever garbage is flavour of the moment.

So has rickets fella, doesn't make it relevant in today's market hence why it's sold for peanuts on supermarket shelves next to the likes for Fosters, Carling and Strongbow! Facts are Guinness has lost a massive chunk of the market in the UK and the same is happening in the US too, their 2nd biggest market! People are waking up to the new brewing techniques and flavours that are the fastest growing market segment and realise that they don't have to drink the **** their parents and grandparents did anymore.

Here's the proof btw!

http://www.economist.com/news/business-and-finance/21646577-spite-its-st-patricks-day-marketing-sales-guinness-are-fallinglike-rest

Read the article and it says that the sales of all beers are falling - "total volume of beer downed in Britain and Ireland has fallen by 20%". It implies Guinness has actually maintained its market share of a declining market - "Guinness, even if it maintains its market share". Also says that the reason for the fall in sales is the shift to wines and spirits. Craft beers are only mentioned in passing.

Would agree most craft beers are great and the market growing, my local does a range and I would generally choose one over a Guinness. However most are pushing £5 a pint and many have a high ABV (up to 6%) so it's a different market. Also we're talking here about canned/bottled beer (rather than cask) and craft beer has a very small share of that market (estimated in the UK about 1%). Of the craft beers available in my local only Goose Island IPA is available at the supermarket and that is £1.75 for a 355ml bottle. You cannot really compare that with canned Guinness being sold at 86p a pint.

You need to find a better bar and supermarket mate, most craft beer sellers by me tend to sell around the £3 mark, its only when you get to limited brews, imports or super strength that the price goes north to near the £5 mark but even at that price I would still rather pay that for 1 pint of something that excites the taste buds than 5 that bores then to death. As for beer sales, its Guinness's market that is suffering -29 pubs a week are closing and supermarket beer sales are down but those 29 pubs a week tend to be those typically who sold brands like Guinness and other majors, you only need to visit cities like Leeds to see how craft beer sales are absolutely trouncing the traditional brands in the newly opened places that the person who frequents comes out to enjoy a drink rather than the places were folk frequent to simply aim to get drunk and cop off.

Funnily enough before Christmas my mates and I were on about this very issue, 10 years ago, of the 15 or so out that day 9 of us were Guinness drinkers on a night out down the town, now not one would order it unless it was the best of a very bad choice at a venue you had to go to because of an event, personally I think I've had 1 single pint of it this year whereas 10 years ago I'd be drinking 8 or 9 pints of it a night out, I've tried their 2 new brews, the Dublin and the West Indies Porter and I'm not bothered for either, the WI is a decent beer in a market full of brilliance but the Dublin is nasty and poor, typical of a dinosaur company that is trying to react to a market it doesn't understand. Simple fact is Guinness don't even brew the best Stout in Dublin anymore never mind anywhere else, they are a low value brand drunk by people that know no better or stick to what they know, they have lost the concerning drinkers and rely on St Paddy's day to turn a profit.

But Guinness is a beer that stands out from the true pure gutter**** tapped 'popular' pub beers brewed by InBev/Molson Coors, etc.

I'm like you in that for the past 4 years or so after initially trying out Sierra Nevada, I've pretty much drunk nothing but craft. I honestly can't remember the last time I had a Carling/Fosters/Coors/Carlsberg/Stella and even if I did it was because I was at some pub in the sticks where it's literally *all* you can have.

But I started to get a little bored of craft IPA's, around a 1-2 years ago it seemed the brewery's were just competing to see who could throw the most hops into a brew! IBU's were more important to them than ABV and within two drinks my mouth would be completely dead from the bitterness, which meant it didn't matter what I drank afterwards as I wouldn't be able to taste it!

I decided to tone it down and get into porters/stouts again and I can confidently say Guinness isn't far from a nice craft stout IMO. Hell, in my opinion Guinness Foreign Extra is one of the best stouts in the world - it's the closest I've come to Lion Stout - my absolute favourite!

And I don't know what city you're in, but the only place you can get a pint of a kegged craft beer for <£3 in Cardiff is in Wetherspoons.... and their guest beers are always cask and find their quality of them typically poor because not many opt for them, so they end up more like drip tray remains. They do have Devils Backbone though, but the quality of the brews of it are all over the place... it certainly isn't as nice as when they first introduced it.

The next cheapest in Cardiff is the Brains bar The Cambrian Tap where you pay around £3.80 a pint, but that's usually their own beers and will be <6% ABV.
In Brewdog £20 will be gone in absolutely no time - 4x 2/3's and you'll be sifting through pocket change! Admittedly they always have perfectly cooled and conditioned beers... I've never had a bad drink there!