Mmmm, cos petrol is like fresh air isn't it.

The only way we are going to see significant savings beyond this price,is if the U.K. government reduce fuel duty.

At 97.7-9p per litre there is a total of 73.95p of that paid to the government as fuel duty, and V.A.T.
The cost of a barrel of oil today is about $31.50 - circa £21.95, each barrel contains 163 litres, (we'll pretend for now that all of this becomes petrol/diesel) so that about 13.5p a litre. Add this to the tax and you have 87.4p per litre, and that is without and refining, delivery or profit.

People just see the headline barrel price, but really don't want to know how much else goes and and complain that the oil companies and fuel retailers are profiteering.

Whilst I disagree with this, you do understand that the reason BP is only a couple of pence more than this is because ASDA have reduced the price. When did BP last do a price drop not brought on by supermarkets. They big brands charge what they can get away with, see the price where there isn't a supermarket close.

All users of fuel whether you use supermarkets or not, benefit from them leading the way in fuel prices.

Using it for years, takes me to where I wanna get to, no issues.

yes, please expire!

Why are you still showing this??? It was nearly 10 months ago.

​You really got my hopes up

I stumbled on my subscription to this deal.
I don't think we'll ever see fuel under £1 again.

For those members who are still putting forward the idea that Supermarket Fuel is inferior, again please provide evidence other than apocryphal stories, advertising blurb, and your opinion. Here is the A.A's and The R.A.C's. Thank you.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/advice/fuelling-the-debate-is-supermarket-fuel-ok-to-use-in-your-car/

Same way as Waitrose get away with having a store next to Morrison's.

We have a BP garage near us that is 1/4 mile from Asda. Charging 105.9p a litre for diesel today compared to Asda 97.7p. They regularly are much more expensive. How do they get away with it? There are enough people in the area who think that they are some how getting a better type of diesel at BP.

someone still living in the 1980's......

All petrol stations use a standard ‘base’ fuel which is supplied from the same refineries across the UK no matter what petrol pump it will end up being pumped from into your tank

You've gone and upset him now, he thought he had a revelation.

Yes very interesting but seems to have been worked out as from 1st Jan when the tax year starts in April. Starting in Jan covers 2 tax years that can have different rates. Personally I think tax free day comes about Christmas time ans this can vary for people. Those that smoke drink and drive a car will probably pay 80% of their earnings to the government, whilst abstainers from all these practices and save a lot of their income to be inherited may only pay 60% of their income but once death duties and inheritance tax have been included from these savings will be back up to 75% of their salary having been taxed. There's no escape.

what a load of crap

Because they can!
For a fun and interesting way to look at tax, see tax freedom day
http://www.adamsmith.org/tax-freedom-day/

Duty on fuel is extortionate compared to the price on fuel itself. Can someone explain why we pay tax on a tax? ie why is VAT charged on the fuel duty and not just the cost of the 20p odd fuel???

50 litres at 97.7 is £48.85, 50 litres at 98p is £49.00. Ever seen Superman III?

when you're buying 50 litres, that 0.7 becomes 35p.

don't get this 97.7 its not 97.7 its 98p a litre i wish they would put the correct prices up instead of .7 what is .7 of a pence no such thing.

HEAT!! great price thanks for posting!
But yeh I'd agreed that Asda fuel is very dirty.... when you come to service your vehicle, you or your mechanic will notice, as it can block up your fuel filter causing problems with the pump and injector, can't be good long term.
Don't get me wrong when price is down this much I do fill the tank there now and again, but personally wouldn't use it regularly.

No guessing here HUKDers only want precision.

one advantage of supermarket fuels is they sell more of it, which can be particularly important now because the biofuel content can go off more quickly - it can absorb water and get bacteria growing in it.

Whilst supermarket fuels might be lower grade than the premium brands, modern engine management units generally adapt automatically, but some faster and better than others. I would guess if you switch from a high octane to a low octane it may take a while to "re-tune"?

Lol at all the snobs that don't touch supermarket fuels. More the fuel you :wink:

Nothing wrong with it, never had a problem with it and going to stick with it.

Thanks OP

Duty and VAT were also much lower.

But the people who bought your cars have had loads of problems.:smile:

According to the AA & RAC the last time crude was below $30 barrel the price at the pumps was averaging 68p per litre

Load of bull s--t , used asda fuel for many years never had a problem

Actually this is also the case in other European counties, yes I agree it's not right to tax a tax but we are not unique.

At the same time as fillilling up I also fill a 20l jerry can when using the Sainsbury 8p vouchers. I know it's only saving £1.60 but it tops my missus car up as she needs it

I'd get a refund on your GCSE in chemistry if I were you.

Petrol and diesel are a soup of molecules which are long chains of carbon atoms and hydrogen atoms attached, just that diesel has much longer chains. Hence "hydrocarbon".
When you burn either of them you get carbon dioxide (and some carbon monoxide, which is catalyzed to dioxide) and dihydrogen oxide (aka water).
You also get nasty stuff like oxides of sulphur because of impurities in the fuel, which leads to acid rain.
You also get oxides of nitrogen from the nitrogen in the air passing through the combustion chamber.
Diesel produces less CO but more NOx
One problem in northern climates is the time taken to get the catalytic converter up to temperature, it's not effective when cold.

The government put duty on the cost of the fuel. When VAT is added on, there's actually VAT on the duty. Yes, the gov't tax tax they already levied.

This. I dont use supermarket fuel, however when the supermarkets decrease their prices, shortly the big name companies do too. In areas, where there are no supermarkets, well the prices don't really go down

Ha Ha Ha nearly laughed my sphericals off.

Love the price, enjoy it while it lasts. Once the Saudi's turn off the taps price wil rise again.
Time to get that V8 Mustang!

​Diesel fumes are carcinogenic

For a registration system to be applied then it has to be paid for and administered so whether you call it a tax or duty is neither here nor there, but if it was free because we pay for roads etc. through additional tax/duty on fuel a certain amount of the populace just would not bother.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Maybe so, but my point still stands that road tax/VED has nothing to do with the requirement for a vehicle to be registered. You could get rid of it and still have just as comprehensive a system as we have now for vehicle registration.
If 'dummy' was meant to be an insult, you should have used a comma before it, dummy.

I know the correct term dummy, but tax is the most used term for VED.

So cars that are zero rated based on low emissions are good for criminals? I think you're confusing road tax (which incidentally hasn't existed since 1937) or as it's correctly termed 'vehicle excise duty' with the V5/vehicle registration system.

Most people are dumb, and will drive out of their way to get cheaper fuel, thus wasting fuel.

12 years low prices in international market and we are celebrating fuel for just under a £1. poor us.

​you must have a crap car then

The road tax system, which every country in the world has in various forms, is required to keep a track on all vehicles and be able to recognise the owner for various reasons from law breaking to informing them of manufacturing recalls etc., so I think that is a none starter although desirable.

This would be a good time to stop the idiocy of road tax and put it all on fuel. Those with zero tax rated cars would still benefit over the big guzzlers but would also pay their fair share which at present they do not

I'm gonna be really unpopular here and suggest that it would make sense now for the govt to stick a few pence on the price of a litre. We shouldn't get used to petrol being this cheap and why not take advantage of the good fortune by paying down some of the national debt? We all cry and whine when a few pence goes on through duty, but seem to be perfectly happy when the price drops by a third. My only worry would be that they wouldn't remove the extra when oil prices go back up. In fact, wasn't that a proposal by one of the parties - a fuel price stabiliser?

good info thanks

Another un educated poster.

Supermarket fuel is exactly the same as BP, Esso, and Shell

Ssshhhh.

Exactly this! I pass an Asda, Sainsbury's and Shell/BP within about 2-3 minutes of each other, and I'd rather pay less even if it is only £1.26 per fill up. After all if I this saving was applied every week, that is almost a free tank of fuel per year - total £65.52. :smiley:

So that if it's at 103.9p or more, you CAN drive past, sure in the knowledge that some kind chap helpfully told you it'll be cheaper just up the road.

€0.97 per litre at. Carrefour, Antibes yesterday.
I assume tax accounts for the difference

Did someone read that to you then???????????????????????/

Yes but they are selling it by the litre plonker.

And any tanker driver will tell you about the additives that is put into fuels from the major companies that is not put into supermarket fuels. I can not understand why people coming onto this site can not see this and shut up about them being the same. Chemical evidence proves this.

Yet you didn't answer how much it should be?

"Clean"?

Thats good advice. You seem to have a real good grasp of the markets :neutral_face:

Petrol has more benzene in it than diesel. Petrol fumes alone are toxic that's before you try to burn it. Petrol engines produce particulates in the same way as diesel engines. If you look at the euro6 regulations they now include restrictions on particulates just like the euro6 restrictions on diesels. If you research the history of the switch from lead petrol to unleaded petrol you will see that they replaced lead with nasties including benzene which doesn't get completely burnt. The higher the octane the more nasties used to stop pre-detination. Benzene is supposed to cause cancer. There has also been studies indicating a possible link between the introduction of unleaded petrol and the decline in some species of birds.

I pay 63ppl. so you are paying over the odds.

Started to rise on Friday so fill up now before it goes back up to more than £1 per litre.

​My gut feeling is science enough for me. For the sake of a pound per tank it makes me feel better filling up something that has the placebo effect so that's enough for me.

Don't have a Costco near me anymore but when I used to be a member I paid extra for a executive membership which gave you cashback at the end of the year which was 5 times my membership fee

We should not complain, but this is still expensive in relation to the oil price, than again most of it is TAX / DUTY / VAT, i bet they add 5p min in Duty next budget

Voted cold cause diesel causes air pollution.

Compared to diesel it is.

You'll rarely see better savings than this.
The government, Oil companies and retailers do not set the price of oil. The House of Saud do. The only reason it is even this low is because oil is priced in dollars, and the US pays for oil using gold at 1g + $20 bbl. You see, Saudi Arabia is well aware their oil is worth more to the west than paper currency (be it euro, dollar, yuan or sterling). The only thing they sell for is gold- as it is the only wealth the world has ever known, and will last generations- unlike the wealth in oil, which is consumed with fire.
If oil stopped flowing to the west tomorrow, life would cease as you know it. The price of gold is kept low using paper contracts, which is essential as wetern man will not hold an asset that does not provide a return. Others in the world know differently.
The only reason we have had the luxuriant life we have had since the 1920s is because of oil, and the deals made in the background with Arabia for the constant flow of oil (valued by it's economical productivity) in exchange for gold.
This is where western banking came from- setting up in Saudi Arabia to store all the Saudi (paper) wealth.
And THIS, my little amigos, is why all banks are insolvent, and why everything seems (is) more expensive these days. Too much money was printed.
Currency operates on contract liquidity by creating paper IOU that are never called. Be they cash, bonds, or stocks, they represent elevated wealth only because they are never liquidated into real things.
If humanity ever decides to sell them (sterling or dollars... something they will do only if forced from fear), the value of real things quickly increases to a level much higher than the total value of such paper. It does
this because, in a panic, things are held back, thereby lowering supply.
We will see a new monetary order soon, and Gold will once again be priced where Saudi Arabia always knew it would be!
Who do you think was really behind all the cash for gold adverts on television? :wink:

The End!

I can't read.

We all drive past petrol stations, why do we need someone to tell us a price we can see clearly by driving past?

​not sure if it qualifies for the 2% on the executive membership

Diesel is disgusting. Should be £3 a litre

Posted a similar comment an hour or so back mate; no answer from the detractors as yet. :laughing:

You mean pedant? Sorry to be pedantic.

For all those people claiming they will not use supermarket fuel and prefer BP or SHELL... Please show evidence that their normal diesel is any better than supermarket normal diesel?

I think these people are brainwashed by ads and companies telling them so without knowing real facts.

Diesel 96.9ppl at Gulf (Sutton Courtney/Didcot) and has been for weeks.

But still good to see diesel coming down in price. Still not getting the savings we should be getting following price drops further up the supply chain.

it's sickening that 75p of each litre is tax.... how can you legally get taxed on your wages and then taxed on what you spend

Wasn't that long ago it was $115 a barrel!!

All I know is ive done over 100,000 miles on supermarket diesel in my vectra with no issues .
Ive also done 500,000 miles in rover 218 and 418 diesels in total on supermarket fuel.
With no probs
Four out of five Hgv transport companys I've worked for use local supermarkets for fuel.

Still too expensive.

Another lazy post.
Everyone knows fuel prices are dropping.

I often wonder where members who post that Supermarket fuel is inferior and therefore harmful to a Car are getting their evidence. I have no wish to be inflammatory; I'm simply wondering because it became a cause of concern for me. This article(and incidentally many others I have read) directly contradicts this; it has opinions from the President of the A.A, and the R.A.C's Chief Engineer. Please can you provide statements from sources as reputable to substantiate your argument? Thank you. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/advice/fuelling-the-debate-is-supermarket-fuel-ok-to-use-in-your-car/

still wouldn't fill up my car with that crap diesel. better use BP or Shell pay cheap pay twice

Correct. It all comes from the same refineries, different retailers simply add different additives.

Why's that? Its all true. Diesel does put out more particulates but what IanTurner said is correct. Just Google each point and walla :wink:

Pendant

Same at ASDA Altringham, Manchester too

Have you seen that Costco are selling fuel now? I won't be going there, it's probably American fuel and their gallons are smaller so my car won't go so far.

Asda fuel is the dirtiest around, never putting it in my car

And I don't know where to even start with that comment....

It really annoys me how they threaten to ban diesel from cities due to its polluting nature but then allow the fuel in the UK to be less than petrol in price!!!!! Don't mean to upset anyone with a diesel or anything but it really winds me up!

ok, no :smile: or maybe a :smiley: ?

i pay 75p p/l for diesel

Diesel is better than petrol, petrol produces CO, (carbon monoxide) where as diesel doesn't also diesel is cheaper to refine than petrol as its an oil

Since its been mentioned I was told by someone I know with a works van+fuel card and they've been told by their fleet manager that they're never to fill up with supermarket diesel as half the time it doesn't have all the additives (or whatever) and they're only to fill up at a stand alone petrol station.

Bloody brilliant. Saw it at Tesco earlier. Great price for diesel.

Still plenty in the pot to donate €2 million in aid to India while they spent over £48 million on space rockets.....not one none European country gave our flood victims in there hour of need. Only saying

yes, but if your already a member...

No he's the sort of person who pays extra to get on an Easyjet plane first, he's not so good as to hunt on this site, but he is better than you and me because he gets his fuel at BP and pays 2p more.

hasn't the petrol gone down ?

If that's your mantra then maybe you are on the wrong site?

Lots of guys have changed engines because of those fuels.

Yep. And there is no way it will happen. The loss to the Exchequer in VAT receipts alone, from the oil price colapse, must be crippling. My best guess, is to expect another hike in fuel duty in the next budget. The dosh has to come from somewhere and historically, the motorist has always the easiest target.

Crude oil prices are falling like a stone, and from what I can gather Natural Gas is following suit, yet the news doesn't report this price.
Why are electric & gas prices so damn high ? a 5% reduction from EON in February is nothing really in the scheme of things. Someone needs to make some noise about the high prices !

Fill up doesn't necessarily mean fill to the brim does it.

Well done

Oooo that'll save me 10p next time I fill up :confused:

£97.7 in Asda Park Royal London

just heard on the radio Tesco and Morrison's have also cut prices.

95.9p at Costco !

Isn't BP/Shell/Esso only worth filling up with if you go for their premium fuel ie VPower ?

As far as I new the regular unleaded and diesel was identical to that sold in supermarkets. Happy to be proved otherwise though

BP have put their prices up overnight in Lower Earley

Should be a lot lower with oil being $27 a barrel.

Maybe I was just unlucky and got a bad batch, car felt really sluggish with it for me

shell 99.9 petrol and diesel near me would rather pay that price than save 2p on asda fuel but good price for those for whom it works

another user looking for heat badges!

it's gone down, big deal, it's not news anymore!

It is!

It's national. Looks like morrissons have followed suit too

usually national with asda

Been before Xmas

Same at ASDA Altringham, Manchester too

You beat me to posting this!

seem to be national. was 97.7 by me too

Will check the local one on the school run and post. Whilst filling the tank if it's that price