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kknb0800
16 Jan 16
I came across this laptop and it seems like a great deal considering the specs. Note that it is certified refurbished but I've never had any issues with refurbished Dell laptops. Currently 5 in stock.

The full specs are:

-Processor: Intel® Core™ i7-6500U Processor (4M Cache, up to 3.10 GHz)
-Windows 10 Home (64bit)
-16 GB Dual Channel DDR3 1600MHz Memory (2x8GB)
-2 TB 5400 RPM SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drive
-8X DVD+/- RW Drive
-15.6 inch LED Backlit Display with FHD resolution (1920 x 1080)
-2GB AMD Radeon R5 M335 Graphics
-Intel® Centrino® Wireless-AC 3160 + Bluetooth 4.0
-LCD Back Cover for Non-Touch Screen - Silver matte
-40 WHr, 4-Cell Battery (removable)
-Internal English Keyboard
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haritori
17 Jan 16 9 #11
Buying a laptop has become the most stressful thing i have done in a while,

When buying a premium laptop trying to purchase something with everything just right i near impossible!

Its like

HP Spectre x360, Amazing screen, great keyboard and track-pad, Beautiful Design, Long Battery

Terrible Sound

Dell XPS 13, Amazing Screen, Great Keyboard, Beautiful Deisgn, Long Battery, Great Sound,

Terrible Track-pad.

do then you look around a little, think maybe ill upgrade the HDD to SSD on something cheaper.. but then it gets worse

HP Envy range full of problems
Inspiron range full of problems
Lenevo Yoga range full of problems

cant trust reviews, can test anything because PC world only like to stock em high sell em cheap laptops..

Id go for Apple but the premium on an extra 128GB of SSD is just stupid.

OMG!
Uridium to awoodhall2003
16 Jan 16 7 #2
Not everyone wants to game on a laptop though
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awoodhall2003
16 Jan 16 1 #1
Not bad but pity about that crappy GPU.
Uridium to awoodhall2003
16 Jan 16 7 #2
Not everyone wants to game on a laptop though
ally8971 to awoodhall2003
17 Jan 16 #8
GPU OK CPU Not really an i7 only dual core low voltage rubbish. About the same as my 3 year old i5
awoodhall2003
16 Jan 16 1 #3
Oh I agree, but at least a mid range GPU can be helpful if you are doing video editing, rendering, modelling, etc and even just to make it easier if running multi screen setups too.
All depends on what you want it for, like I wouldn't be expecting to see a decent GPU with a U processor...leave that for the HQs.
CaptainSpaulding
16 Jan 16 1 #4
link isn't working for me
thecoolguy
17 Jan 16 #5
good but bear in mind it does weigh a fair bit
antonywhite37
17 Jan 16 1 #6
Having had this gpu can honestly say wish they had use the onboard since hardly any performance difference but big power usage difference and the drivers are terrible
danharrison23
17 Jan 16 2 #7
I'd call this average for the Dell Outlet. I got an inspiron 7000 series with a 4k screen, same processor and ram, 256gb ssd and m270 gpu for just over 550 a few weeks ago
Gollywood
17 Jan 16 2 #9
Should state Refurbished in title
Zub
17 Jan 16 #10
Yes, it is really an i7.
haritori
17 Jan 16 9 #11
Buying a laptop has become the most stressful thing i have done in a while,

When buying a premium laptop trying to purchase something with everything just right i near impossible!

Its like

HP Spectre x360, Amazing screen, great keyboard and track-pad, Beautiful Design, Long Battery

Terrible Sound

Dell XPS 13, Amazing Screen, Great Keyboard, Beautiful Deisgn, Long Battery, Great Sound,

Terrible Track-pad.

do then you look around a little, think maybe ill upgrade the HDD to SSD on something cheaper.. but then it gets worse

HP Envy range full of problems
Inspiron range full of problems
Lenevo Yoga range full of problems

cant trust reviews, can test anything because PC world only like to stock em high sell em cheap laptops..

Id go for Apple but the premium on an extra 128GB of SSD is just stupid.

OMG!
bbbazman to haritori
17 Jan 16 #16
You will not regret it.
jamesallsup to haritori
17 Jan 16 #20
​i have the xps 13 and the trackpad is just fine! had a mac before and no difference!
Uridium to haritori
17 Jan 16 2 #25
I went through exactly the same a few months ago. In the end via a friendly students help I managed to order a Macbook Pro Retina via the Apple Higher education store and got a discount of almost 15% over the Apple retail store price with 3yrs warranty included on HES purchases as well. I went for the 256gb as I wanted to run a couple of virtual machines on the Macbook but as you say that does add quite a premium to the cost.

I did manage to test all the comparable options due to friendly work colleagues who had the models I was interested in. I'd say the Dell XPS13 was the closest in quality to the Macbook pro...The new Black and Copper x360 Spectre is also very nice however the trackpad was a little disappointing. HP have also recently released a new aluminium Envy model that is with taking a look at as the pricing is very keen although battery life is a little disappointing on it.

Personally I think the one with least compromise is the Macbook Pro but unfortunately the compromise on this is the cost...everything else is pretty much perfect if your budget can stretch. Great sound, great screen, great keyboard and trackpad, great battery life, brilliant build quality and you also get the flexibility of running both OSX and Windows.
I agree though...finding the right ultrabook is tricky...
puci to haritori
17 Jan 16 #26
​as far as I know I thought the recent xps line had praises for its trackpad?
rosstheboss1972 to haritori
17 Jan 16 1 #31
​id suggest you look at buying a laptop from pc specialist. fantastic builds, screens, specs and prices.
aoe310p to haritori
18 Jan 16 #33
This! Do you have a solution? I think maybe the best way is to just take a punt.
minicale to haritori
26 Jan 16 #54
​Buy some headphones or speakers and that solves your problem with the first one
CountFilth
17 Jan 16 #12
According to Intel, yes, according to a logical way of categorising a range of CPUs, then no.
ally8971
17 Jan 16 #13
So much for Moores law that every 2 years or so that processing power would double. We seem to be going backwards now.
kuboro37
17 Jan 16 #14
Link doesn't work for me.
Zub
17 Jan 16 2 #15
Moore's law states that the number of transistors in an integrated circuit doubles approximately every two years. It's a common misconception that it refers to processing power.
happenstance
17 Jan 16 #17
For 150 more you get a quad core i7, way better graphics card and better guarantee and d battery. Sorry think the new 15-7000 is a better deal.

I think dell outlet prices were good a few years ago, not so much these days.
danharrison23 to happenstance
17 Jan 16 #19
You still get some cracking deals on occasion, but they're a lot less discounted than they used to be.
haritori
17 Jan 16 #18
I am seriously considering it, would 128GB be enough for someone using one mainly for internet, photo editing (use external for photo storage but also installing bootcamp, to use some windows stuff?
iDealYou
17 Jan 16 #21
Can't you just swap out the 128GB for a bigger capacity?
bbbazman
17 Jan 16 #22
I have 512, I do a lot of video editing. I use ext drives too. My wife has 256, she doesn't edit but she has more than half free and she has a lot of MP4 files.
I'd respectfully suggest that 128 'would do' and you could enhance with SD storage or an ext drive. I bought a 200GB SANDISK ultra SD card for £60 on a lightning deal recently (for another purpose), that's got to be much more cost effective than paying apple prices for increased storage. I think that'd be fine working off to do photo editing and it's convenient in terms of portability.
Remember to back up regularly to an external drive with Time-machine.

Of course, if you have some spare santa money, I'd go for the largest drive that funds permit for convenience, albeit the apple premium cost does hurt, and being a tight-fisted scotsman, :man: I'd be looking for a cheaper solution.
happenstance
17 Jan 16 #23
I spent about 2 months checking dell outlet every Tuesday for a deal. None of them were worth it imo. But something only a hundred or so less than the latest model with way better everything. Just not worth it.
gerardarmstrong5
17 Jan 16 #24
Link aint working
haritori
17 Jan 16 #27
Yeah I am pretty much think im going to switch to the dark side lol, I get NUS discount so i get 15% but its still 1049 for the 256gb model.. and i am right in thinking you get 3 years free parts and labour under HE agreements?
haritori
17 Jan 16 #28
if you google it there are mass reports of problems with the track pad.
Uridium
17 Jan 16 1 #29
Correct yes, 1yr phone support and 3yrs parts and labour hardware with HES purchases.
I think that's about how much i paid for my 256gb model.

Don't regret it though and on the plus side should you wish to upgrade or change at a later date depreciation on a Macbook Pro Retina is only around 10% per year.
haritori
17 Jan 16 #30
Thanks for you advice you have helped me alot..

I am coming from a Dell XPS L502x and the 1080p screen is sublime but when i checked the retina screens today in Currys they were stunning.. and the 3 years on top cant be argued with.
haritori
17 Jan 16 #32
Heard they are soldered?
haritori
18 Jan 16 #34
Well it was a toss up between a HP Spectre x360 or Dell XPS 13 so i have deceided to get............

a Macbook Pro lol, seriously i went to have a play with them in Cardiff, and the Macbook Pro is a great machine, 10/10 on everything and it runs windows in parallel with OS X and my Office 365 will carry over too. and because I have student discount I get 3 years parts and labor too.
bbbazman
18 Jan 16 1 #35
HUURRRAAYY ! Welcome to the dark side, you will not be disappointed.
iDealYou
18 Jan 16 #36
:disappointed: ...
haritori
18 Jan 16 #37
Turns out they are not soldered but propriety firmware so cant swap out anyhow.
bbbazman
18 Jan 16 1 #38
.. but you can 'upgrade' if you source the correct part.
Nesima
18 Jan 16 #39
It is not a proper i7 cpu.
Zub
19 Jan 16 #40
Good for you! Not afraid to look silly in front of everyone! That's a bold move.
Uridium
19 Jan 16 1 #41
Good choice, ignoring all the Apple hate can be difficult (as can spending all that cash) but despite Dell and HP's best efforts the MBPr is still the best ultrabook....
The XPS and Spectre are both good but still not quite there with the MBPr yet.
haritori
19 Jan 16 #42
Tell me about it, I went in with unbiased thought, when i told my oldest i was going to get a Macbook he was like "but everyone online says they are rubbish" lol.. when i was shopping around i felt no excitement to any machine, but now I have picked a MBPr I do feel a bit excited :smiley:
Uridium
19 Jan 16 #43
Here's my new to Macbook ownership top tips...
If you plan to install windows I wouldn't bother with bootcamp (even though it's free) Parallels or VMWare fusion can be picked up for around £60 and allow you to run Windows as a virtual machine, simple swipe to the right with your touchpad and you have your Windows desktop. I prefer Parallels (Despite working with VMWare servers in my day job).
an SDCard and hidden adaptor is also a useful addon as you can easily add another 128Gb of local storage and point your Time machine backup to it
haritori
19 Jan 16 #44
Thanks, I was looking at parallels which seems the better option, and the jetdrive lites seem ok too.
Zub
19 Jan 16 #45
Have you tried VirtualBox on OSX as a host? I use it on a Windows host and find it very good for a free product.
Uridium
19 Jan 16 1 #46
I use one of these with a 128Gb Card http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B014GNPVNC?
Uridium
19 Jan 16 #47
Must admit I haven't tried it. I tried parallels and Fusion in trial mode and found I preferred parallels and as luck would have it picked up a 10 app bundle on cultofmac.com for £30 that included Parallels.
haritori
19 Jan 16 #48
That sounds good, its really a very limited amount of Windows software i want to run..
Rapp
21 Jan 16 #50
Does the link work for anyone? I can't seem to find the laptop.
kknb0800 to Rapp
23 Jan 16 #51
links to the Dell site don't really work. Your best bet is to search for the model on the outlet site. If you still can't find it, it probably means it's sold out.
minicale
26 Jan 16 #53
​Well then get one without a gpu and save on weight cost and battery life
haritori
28 Jan 16 #55
Thanks, for that, also as I am buying from the EDUCATION store, Parallels is only £30.00 going to buy on Monday getting the 256GB version and Parallels for £1060.00. excited now cant wait :smiley:
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