Edit: Noticed the CDKeys mention.

Lazy link: £21.84 if you purchase this from CDKeys. Heat added.

£25 PSN voucher is £19.95 on ebay....

Edit: Noticed the CDKeys mention.

Lazy link: £21.84 if you purchase this from CDKeys. Heat added.

Jealous of the ps owners when I see titles like this, unchartered and tlou. Never played any so at least I have something to look forward to when I get one. Im just too bloody tight. Minted but tight

:smirk: honest

Don't worry i'm sure PS4's will be available at £77.25 from Tesco in the next few days :wink:

Has anyone upgraded to the digital game of the year edition having previously played the vanilla disc version that can confirm the save file works?

A great deal btw, especially if you buy the £25 PSN credit from CDKEYS. Does anyone know if the standalone DLC is on offer? I got the game before the GOTY was released that's all!

Yeah the old hunters DLC is on sale too:

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/bloodborne-old-hunters-dlc-7-99-for-ps-members-9-59-for-non-ps-usually-15-99-2378286

Now this is a deal. I some how haven't picked this game up mainly because of its difficulty and being my first Souls game but for this price i'm willing to take the risk.

Grant us eyeees, grant us eyeees

Another game to added to the Everest sized mountain of backlog of games. Heat added

£25 PSN voucher is £19.95 on ebay....

Fair play really good dead, best game of 2015 imo

Yipes!

Can't get into this. What am I missing? Should I start with a different game?

Price is so tempting, only problem is it wont have any resale value (without console) as a download -.-'

Be careful with CDKeys guys.. I was stupid enough to buy a cheap xbox360 game to my nephew from them recently. Monday evening someone has attempted to take $100 from my bank account... Since then my debit card has been cancelled. I'm pretty sure that it was them as i haven't really used any other American website for my purchases...

I gave up 50 hours in. Still the most rewarding gaming experience I had in 2015 and my GOTY. I'm suffering from withdrawal, but I know staying away is for the best!

TLoU for me is simply one of the greatest dude, i envy you getting to experience it for the first time again :smile:

I would also like to hear this answered. I'm guessing it will work but I've never gone from physical to digital and tried to use the same save file.

As long as the region on both copies is the same (e.g. EU) then you'll be fine.

What you can't do is e.g. use a save from an American disc version on a UK download. Every PlayStation game since the PS1 has had a SLES, SLUS, BLES etc product code assigned to it by Sony and the codes change between regions. Saves use those codes to identify what game they belong to.

Bought this very recently and it arrived via message around 24 hours later but it was on Sunday when I purchased it. Worked perfectly.

eBay £25 PSN voucher £19.95

Ok, then.. Probably it was some other company.. Anyway. I'll use only PayPal in the future definitely. :-)

Ebay technically prohibit the sale of digital codes. They usually turn a blind eye if a small private seller is offloading the odd one or two but they take a firm hand with sellers who sell lots of them via their site.

I'm partway through dark sous and like it. This more of the same? If I wont be able to play it for 3-6 months is this still worth getting considering I have £60 psn credit anyway

£25 SONY PLAYSTATION NETWORK / PSN / PS4 / PS3 INSTANT GAMING CREDIT VOUCHER £19.75 Buy it now

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/25-SONY-PLAYSTATION-NETWORK-PSN-PS4-PS3-INSTANT-GAMING-CREDIT-VOUCHER-/181993187843?hash=item2a5fa3aa03:g:67kAAOSwa-dWi6Fo

OK, seems like the urls dont work through hotdeals but you can just search for it and it shows up. Really weird.

Im not normally one for digital games but considering I have bought and sold this game 3 times and still want to play it means its worth it for me as I fancy going through it again! Love FROM Software.

Does this have a proper checkpoint system or does it punish you forever if your fail like the original dark souls and the dropped loot forever gone mechanic?

I mean, basically, can i "grind and checkpoint" my way to the end if i suck?

Not sure why that is but he has very good feedback from a fair few people. I'm just saying from experience that I have purchased from the seller I linked without any issues

Here is his user profile Link

Probably my favourite game of all time. Finished it after about 60 hours (3 months on and off) with the best ending. I haven't played it since as it's unbelievably intense and I was worried for my sanity by the end of it. Really want to jump back in!

I have the game already, is the DLC Old Hunters worth the £7.99 on it's own?

Great new. I'll probably be **** at it, but for just under £22, can't go wrong.

Is this cheaper through any other region?

Please and Thank You!

When you ring that bell and join another player, does beating that boss get saved when you're back into your own game or does the other player need to be in yours to have it beaten and saved? Wasn't too sure about that as I was reading differently somewhere a while back.

This town's finished!

..and so miss out on an amazing gaming experience.

I've never played the Souls games and I don't like RPGs.

I picked this up. I'm 5-6 hours in and still stuck on the first level. But I love it. It's so refreshing to play a game that requires player skill.

Thanks for posting, before I buy did they properly fix the terrible terrible long load times after dieing?

I remember that is why I sold it early on as it was a annoying kick in the teeth having to wait so long to respawn

I wouldn't describe it as an amazing experience. Quite the opposite of that in fact.

Nah, Demon's Souls is FROM's best game by far, bloodbourne had no replayability for me and the multiplayer is crap aswell as the co op being a pain to connect.

Demons souls was much better, multiplayer was fantastic yet laggy, co oping was the best its ever been and the boss fights were alot more memorable, I mean c'mon the old monk boss online was one of the best things I've ever seen.

Sure. That's your opinion. I'm sure anyone interested in trying it will consider both views.

will give them a chance but its been over an hour and no sign of code so it must be sent in the post

Thanks for replying - fixed it as in load times are fast after dieing or shaved 15secs off a 55s load time?

Honestly remember the pain in the release days waiting so long in a game when you die lots :-(

Mine was sent via message and took 24 hours to get. He did message me after and said that according to eBay rules, he has sent me the voucher in the post as well. If he does or not, I don't know but I got the code, so I am happy.

I think they probably should because this was last year's Marmite game. Either people love it or they hate it but the feeling tends to be strong on either side. I've not met anybody who thought it was just average or OK.

Buying a game like this digitally is therefore a bit of a risk because if it isn't for you then you're down 25 quid with no recourse to ever get that money back. I bought it from the US digital store at launch and now I'm stuck with it permanently even though it was deleted off my PS4's HDD months ago.

i will use them this once but will just stick with cdkeys from now on for the ease of mind and quickness

Nice price but digital?

Anybody gone fully digital?
What happens lets say 10 years down the line ps4 servers are shut? You will lose your game library.

Digital doesn't have a bright future.

Bought. I already played the vanilla version last year and loved it, so can't wait to get started on the dlc and some new game plus.

The difference with Steam though is that the hardware isn't bespoke and doesn't go through succinct refresh cycles like consoles do. There are games on Steam that are from the 80's and 90's and basically run through emulators. At no point, unless Valve go tits up like you say, will the Steam servers ever be permanently shut down and as of now any game that you buy on Steam should be available to you for life.

Previous consoles have suggested that Sony and Microsoft will do that at some point though. The clear indication will be what happens with the Live and PSN services for the 360 and PS3.

I can't remember 100% but I know that whenever I rang the bell and another player joined me, we would beat the boss together and the other player would leave immediately after, and the progress would be saved and the boss defeated. This happened every time. There are players out there that purely want to help others defeat bosses or get through a difficult section. I tried a handful of times to beat some of the bosses on my own but got my @ss handed to me almost straight away, especially father Gascoigne.

as you say it will happen at some point but buy then you will have gotten your moneys worth from what games you bought and by the if you had a physical versions and wanted to sell them you would be getting next to nothing for most games and as i said no ones forcing people to buy digital, have a feeling we will not go fully digital on consoles for some time yet. still lots of places with crappy internet so digital is not going to be good for a lot of people with the size of games now

You need to have summoned a player to your game, then that boss is dead in your world. If you go to someone else's game to kill a boss, then you will get rewarded for it but that boss will still be alive in your world.

However it is good practice to fight the bosses in other peoples games as it doesn't cost you anything to be summoned (it does cost Insight to summon others to your game).

I think it's often more about preservation for a lot of people than anything else. The last few years have proven that the console manufacturers are more than happy to basically resell an old game digitally again on a new format rather than let people use their original copy. Look at how many people went for the FF7 deal for PS4 just before Christmas for instance even though that version is almost no different to the original PS1 disc.

One thing that I hated about this game is that if you ring a bell then that bell gets instantly used up even if nobody responds.

With a username like yours I can see why you would think that :-) Demon's was great, but I've gone back to it recently and it ain't what it was back in 2010 - still an all-time great though.

I will admit that the combat is outdated compared to bloodborne, but bloodbornes combat blows all the souls games out the water.
I remember playing dark souls 2 on ps4 after bloodborne and it was crazy how slow It felt.

From what I have seen they have implemented a faster system in dark souls 3 similar to bloodborne, which is defintely the right decision, I feel that Demon's was faster than DkS 1&2 also.

That sounds pretty cool. Suppose it would be better to play someone else game first if it's too hard and then do my own alone using what has been learnt from the co-op.

What does that mean the bell gets instantly used up? Do you have to buy a new bell or some kind of power to charge it or something?

Currently playing through the game, getting pretty close to the end so doing the DLC now which seems harder than the vanilla game. My advice to those people who haven't played one of the souls games before is to take your time early on learning whichever weapon you choose, learn how to counter with your pistol and don't get frustrated when you die. Also if you've played through a difficult section of about 15 minutes in length and you are pushing on in to more danger then look around as you've probably missed either a short cut you can open to a lantern or a new lantern.

One last thing is you can level your character up, but, unlike other souls games, this isn't open to you from the outset which may make the game a little harder to begin with. You can google how to unlock it if you don't want to figure it out for yourself.

Every time you encounter a boss you gain something called insight. I usually gained around 3 insight per boss. To ring the bell and summon another player you have to use up one of your insights. 4 times out of 5 someone would appear within a minute or so, but sometimes it may take a lot longer for someone to join (if at all). I heard that FromSoftware were going to patch the game so you didn't use any insight if no one appeared but don't quote me on this.

I played the game as normal and the insight piled up so I was never without. Also, if you accumulate too much insight (13 I think) the game becomes much harder and strange things start to happen so it's an idea to use it when it starts piling up, this is one of many of the amazing little quirks this game has. I also think items can be traded for insight if I remember correctly.

Why are people so afraid of this game? Enjoy it for what it is. Games back in the day gave you a couple of lives and if you died you had to restart from the start. Doesnt anyone enjoy a challenge anymore?

How long is this offer available by the way?

I loved Dark Souls but this was waaaay too hard for me.

SPOILER!!!!!!! past Vacuous Spider, where a light beam thing starts killing you.

I must have gotten lucky or something as I don't remember any games on the C64 I had that weren't complete, or reports of that ever happening for that matter. Bloodborne is tame by old games standards anyway - it has a generous check point system and there is next to no real major punishment for dying. I think most people give up on it because there is some punishment for dying (quite rare these days) and it doesn't reward spamming attacks, you have to learn how to fight in it. Everyone knows it is harder than the average game these days so should have a good idea going in whether they will like it or not.

Everything you just typed is complete nonsense.

enjoy it new buyers... got this game day 1 and its easily the best game this generation imo. i love it. DLC is really hard so good luck! :smile:

Does a spoiler tag count if it's literally wrote next to the spoiler?

...fear the old blood!

Haha, I've never heard so much drivel in my life. I grew up playing fantastic games of the 80's and 90's that were hard, that only gave you a few lives, but the satisfaction of finally beating them was immense. Are you referring to the likes of Pacman??? Yeah every retro game was exactly like that..........

CD Keys is out of stock of the £25 network cards. Does anybody know of a similar website?

Really unsure as to whether to get this as a digital download or wait and get it physical. Getting a bit concerned as to how many digital games are going to be available moving forward with PSN. It's not like Steam with the PC 'one size fits all' culture. Looking at stuff from Sega for example, Outrun is gone, Sega Rally seems to be gone, that's bad enough with these games which were about a fiver. Losing a game costing £25 quid is gonna be bitter pill to swallow.

Not to be a contrarian, but assuming you get at least 100hrs out of it, which is easily doable, you would have got your money's worth.

Yeah but part of it is looking back in years to come. I've got my moneys worth from Sega Rally on the Sega Saturn, but that doesn't mean to say I'm happy to never ever power it up again and have a go. The fact I have that choice is a big deal to me, personally anyway.

​You sound minted bruv if you cant manage £300.

Heat added. Certainly the game of 2015.

Great price, got this from the Canadian store for the same price a month ago, great game, have some heat!

And by the same token, if your house burns down you'd have bigger problems than gaming

Finally got to the first monster- only took me about 100 goes to get there and then I get killed instantly, oh well...

​thats why you're minted...

I gt a copy of this given to me when It came out. Didn't get far and didn't have time to spend on it, so I sold it. Now tempted to get it back but need a cheap PSN code first.

Best game of the year. Simples. Just needs skill and patience. Once you start levelling up, it's awesome.

If you've not played this game yet, definitely don't hold back on this deal. Game of the year for me in 2015

Everything I said was fact. Whether or not you agree with it is a different issue but it's still fact.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_Set_Willy

There's one example right there.

Imo it was probably joint goty with the witcher . Personally I love from software and think they make the best games around as they are the only games I play and still get any sense of achievement from . Leaving most of the gaming industry feeling hollow and pointless ,eg fallout 4s blandness that left you wandering what the point in doing anything after half the game was.
But saying that the witcher 3 was by far the best open world game and I would even say it was better than bloodborne if they tightened up the combat mechanics and changed the pointless lvl up system that is so silly at one point I had nearly 20 unspent points

£25 credit at Cdkeys is currently priced at £22.99, is this the cheapest, most reliable place to buy from? I dont know how reliable ebay sellers are and i would prefer a code via email rather than in the post.

nonsense ! This game is by far the best you will play on the PS4. Witcher is awesome, not disputing that, but the combat mechanics let it down.

Until dawn? yawn !
Drake collection? £5 quid in CEX for ps3 ,

The best game on console of last year and probably the last few years in my opinion. An essential purchase.

All of that is purely your opinion. And it's also wrong.

If this tosh is the best that the ps4 can offer then I may as well sell mine now because that makes that console even more pointless than I thought it was.

Buying. It.

My opinion is wrong??? :neutral_face:

Okay lad.

Sounds like you couldn't beat the first boss.

Stick to your linear games that offer a challenge.

you're just a moaning **** aren't you? We get it. You don't like it. You made your point. OK!
It's like you're moaning for sakes of moaning honestly...

A bit off topic, Does anyone know when the January sales psn games get refreshed?

Go on then, enlighten us all why it was the worst game you played last year.

Great price, but I think I'll wait until some time during 2018 when this will be part of the PS+ games of the month (*fingers crossed*)...

[quote=Damrock]A bit off topic, Does anyone know when the January sales psn games get refreshed?[/quote

February I think :stuck_out_tongue:

I was on the fence - regarding this game, but, Edge Magazine has just awarded it GOTY, so...count me in!

Here's the thing: Best and worst games of the year is mostly subjective opinion! One persons opinion may be different to yours but that doesn't mean they're wrong! If someone says they think Bloodborne is their GOTY, then that's just their opinion. Same goes for if they say it's the worst they played.

Personally I think anyone who didn't like Bloodborne just didn't "get it", or they didn't sink enough hours in. It gets to a point where everything just clicks, and then you can't stop playing.

Think I may bite the bullet at this price. Any idea how much GBs this takes up on the hard drive?

Getting on for a year old, seems like a sensible price.

For someone who dislikes this game so much, you've spent a lot of time on this thread :laughing:

Please do sell it so we dont have to listen to any more of your tripe on these threads...

Strange question... I bought this last night from the PC Store, and set it to download overnight... I had a quick look this morning (before work - i didn't fire it up) and the Game Launcher simply denotes the game as 'Bloodborne', does this change, or does the title screen state 'Bloodborne GOTY Edition'? I'm probably worrying about nothing but was hoping it would show as such after the download.

I agree. Please sell it. It's only causing you, and us, pain.

Anyway, I am a stinking casual, and I loved the game. Yes it was tough, but rather than wimping out I persevered and realised one doesn't simply button mash.


The physical GOTY release just said Bloodborne. The DLC cannot be accessed till after a certain boss in the game, so there won't be any options for it on the home screen.

Cheers for letting me know this is normal... I did quickly go into the PS Store on my PS4 and when i went to vanilla Bloodborne there was no progress bar, but there was on the GOTY version, so assumed this would be the case, but again, i had that little bit of worry, lol.

​Strange because when the PSN servers are down, it refuses to let me play my digital content which all end up padlocked

Showing as £29.99 and 10% off for ps+ ??

Yep, my bad. Hadn't signed in!

Have you set your PS4 as your account's primary system?

Settings>PSN>Activate as Primary PS4

I actually did finish the first boss and the second one as a matter of fact so you might want to crawl back up into your little hole there.

Difficult games are fine e.g. Super Meat Boy, FTL, Arma, DayZ, Destiny (Strikes) etc. Difficult games that are as technically flawed as this one aren't though.

If a AAA game wants to be that difficult then it needs to be technically immaculate and unfortunately, like Dark Souls 2, Bloodborne just wasn't.

Thankfully cdkeys have codes back Instock, as that seller on eBay has not even posted the code out yet, I really should of know as it all looked a bit fishy, only a seller since late November a 100% feedback which at times is more suspious than a low score and all the feedback are written in very similar styles. Well you live and learn

You should have stuck with it. After the initial shock of the difficulty curve, plus not really having a clue what is going on, it settles down quite nicely. Still hard, but you know what to expect, plus you are on the road to levelling up, upgrading weapons and learning how to parry/visceral everyone.

....I am only saying this as someone who bought it, and literally had it listed for sale on here before deciding to give it another shot. 80hrs and many deaths later, I am glad I did.

Not a chance, sorry. I think life is too short for games like this.

I just think people need to know what they're getting themselves into before they buy a game like this digitally. It may be a better idea to get a cheap 2nd hand disc from somewhere because at least then there's a possibility of getting some of your money back if you really don't like it.

The first two bosses? And you think that's enough of the game to have formed a proper opinion? That's too early to give up and condemn the game in my opinion

Will give that a go, thanks.

Well considering on this game that stage can take hours to reach and Father Gascoigne is considered by many to be a particularly difficult enemy, yes I think that's enough.

I know this is going nowhere, but why is life too short? All you need to do to progress in the game is achieved while playing the game.

Hell, you can complete all bosses, inc. optional/dlc, in just over an hour if you so chose :wink:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eA_7LIMVag

The save points are too far apart and to get from one of those save points to a boss only to then be killed because the camera or geometry crapped itself is not my idea of fun at all.

if anyone has clubcard vouchers to use,

http://www.tesco.com/direct/playstation-store-25-wallet-top-up/211-2736.prd?skuId=211-2736&pageLevel=

25£ is 22.50 here

The only thing that makes Father Gascoigne difficult is not being used to the game mechanics properly yet. The game is designed to be punishing of mistakes and difficult. Again, I don't think this first section of the game truly represents the full experience, especially as you clearly hadn't reached a point where the game makes sense as you stopped at two bosses.

Exactly, and that is why it must be destroyed.

As a piece of software, it's about as usable as a double-edged chainsaw.

The game must be destroyed because you find it too hard? Games don't always have to hold your hand you know

Yo trollin?

Shortcuts are your friend. Once opened, which they can be done on the way Papa G the first time, you can run to him in 30 seconds.

Agreed. This applies to the whole game too. Shortcuts are everywhere, and the satisfaction of beating an area and finding a new shortcut is one of my highlights of the game

You really are in the minority with your dislike of this game for a lot of people it's a contender for GOTY. What I really can't understand if you hate this game so much why bother keep posting, you don't like it great everyone is allowed their own opinion, but it's really just time to call it a day an move along unless your attention is too troll.

You say all your friends also don't like this game but if it's any like this topic I think they are just saying that to shut you up on the subject!

They don't have to but they should. That's just good software design.

Don't you normally have to make considerable progress before you can do that? Like the first gate couldn't be opened until you had already taken down a considerable number of enemies.

I don't recall ever saying that. I actually have one mate who loves it. I just think that it's the sort of game that people should be cautious about buying digitally, that's all. Either you will like it a lot or you will hate it, delete it and never want to see it again after the first couple of hours.

It's this post I got confused with you say you haven't met anyone you thought it's wasn't average or just ok. Which is different than me saying they didn't like it

Ah OK, fair enough. Yeah, essentially all of my mates hated it apart from one who thought it was incredible for some reason.

Holding your hand is not good software design. It's the result of the mainstream gaming market moving towards making games accessible. Accessible = easier = more potential buyers. It's the done thing nowadays. The dumbing down of gameplay to appeal to the mass market. That doesn't mean it's good software design at all. This game is designed to be hard, and it achieves it's goal.

And you say it's a risk buying digitally because you may give up within a few hours. A few hours is nowhere near enough to understand what makes this game so good. 10-15 hours in, and it hits you hard

A few hours was only enough time for me to realise I wasn't meant to punch that first wolf to death, and that Hunter's Dream was were I got my weapons :man:

....and yet I still completed the game. If this isn't a sign that anyone can play/complete this game, then I don't know what is.

Not sure why everyone who struggled with this game seem to go out of their way to hate it . It was the same on many of the goty comments I read ,it was getting all the hate ..... I don't like assassins creed or cod but don't generally go out my way to **** these games off ..... If it's not for you (or you find it too hard) then don't play it and move on . For me it was the reason I bought a ps4 and I wasn't disappointed , and for this price it's a bargain.

Love difficult games. Don't see the point in easy games, the most memorable ones are those that have us pulling our hair out :stuck_out_tongue:

Either way, sold my regular copy for £25, bought a voucher for £19.75 and had a £10 eBay coupon for some reason making it £9.75. So after posting and fees I made about £10 .... bargain :laughing:

If you think destiny is a better game than bloodborne then you have no taste.

There are quite a few people on a lot of the game site forums especially in the goty run up ,that seem to have a personal dislike to this game

I meant in this topic

Umbasa, bless us with Demon's Souls remastered.

So i caved and downloaded this >.>

35gb download btw for anyone who is curious.

And for the record this game is hard as **** XD
Father Gascoigne did my head in but he no longer lives now :P

Also i've never played a souls game before, but i am fan of Monster hunter, which i actually think is very similiar combat wise. Except every bloody thing should be treated as the monster XD

There are a few helpful NPCs, like Alfred, Eileen etc. Make sure you don't accidentally hit them with your axe, as then they will turn hostile and kick your head in, and you'll lose their quest line :wink:

I'm not even completely sure if you can compare them to be honest but if you insist then Destiny is an infinitely better game that Bloodborne.

Destiny is probably the most well-designed and skilfully crafted pieces of software that I have seen since GTA V.

Actually, that's exactly what it is. Most software, game development and interaction design textbooks now recommend doing just that. Have you ever noticed for example how hints start appearing in games like Uncharted if you're seemingly wandering aimlessly or standing still for a long period of time. Or how in Destiny waypoints will start appearing if you haven't found the target yourself after a few minutes? The very idea is to prevent players from becoming frustrated and giving up.

Unfortunately most Japanese developers just haven't twigged that yet and that's why most Japanese games don't succeed outside of their home market.

Agreed, the entire first area and first couple of bosses are basically tutorials for how to be able to beat the game. It teaches you about level design, combat mechanics, how to be aggressive, how to dodge, how to parry, all the things that will make you good at the game.

If you struggle through all of that and don't then take those newly learned skills into the rest of the game you are probably not getting the feeling of accomplishment that is much of why this game is so fun and so rewarding.

...they could just fire up the internet and get all questions answered in 5 seconds. That way those who want to find out for themselves can, and those that need a bit of help can seek it.

Although, I am not sure the internet could help Spark with their insistence on trying to button mash their way through Bloodborne :wink:

This sort of thing reminds me of world of warcraft from ten years ago when it pretty much let you get on with it. Now there are things pointing you places on the radar, massive shaded areas on the map telling you where to go, etc. I remember back in the early days searching online to find these specific monsters I had to kill or where certain herbs were, it felt like an accomplishment afterwards.

Mindlessly following endless arrows and way points is pretty tedious in my opinion anyway. Perhaps games could include a casual mode so younger players can enjoy it, but this hand holding is getting totally out of hand. Some things you may as well just watch someone else play it, there's no skill or thought involved. At least just watching means you can eat or something while still pretty much having the same experience lol

Destiny is a greedy cashgrab and GTAV is kind of overrated. Its good to finally play a game that treats you like an adult not a child following arrows. With all the hand holding games have now the game is basically playing itself.

You shouldn't have to rely on external sources to help to get through a game. How would you deal with a user who doesn't have internet access for example?

Did you honestly just refer to the best game of the last generation as 'kind of overrated'?

Destiny was a cashgrab last year but the 2015 version came on leaps and bounds and it now represents excellent value in my opinion.

There are two concepts in video games that are kind of outdated and have no real reason to exist at this point. The first is high difficulty and the second is boss fights and unfortunately Bloodborne uses both in droves. Add it's myriad of technical glitches and poor quality visuals to that and I just don't get the point of it at all.

Destiny has arrows and waypoints but also requires skill to get through, especially at the harder levels and on raids/strikes.

They could pick up this lovely book from their local bookshop.



Then they could have a hard long look at themselves as to why they have a PS4, yet no internet.


2-3 million in sales might say otherwise.

I was worrying over nothing. Got code a hour after I made the post

One Direction sell millions of albums that doesn't mean that their music isn't garbage.

As they say, a fool and his money are easily parted.

Now you're just being obtuse.

You could say that for Destiny and GTAV as well tbh. They sell millions but they are average games at best.

Geez this thread is repetitive - Spark if you don't like the game that's fair enough but do you really need to try and prove to everyone who did enjoy it that they're wrong? People obviously have different tastes and opinions so while some may call Bloodborne needlessly hard and criticize it for being obtuse others will love that about it. We all get by now that you hated it but please stop your mission to put everyone else off what is widely believed to be one of PS4's best games!

GTA V has one of the highest median review scores in the history of the medium. I think that alone suggests that it certainly isn't 'average at best'.

The hypocrisy here is astounding! You realise that Bloodborne is one of the best reviewed games of last year? So that alone suggests it isn't awful right? Or are people allowed to have differing opinions?

I've never directly said that Bloodborne is a bad game. Admittedly I hate it and I think it has major issues and relies on a lot of severely outdated concepts. It is also highly divisive which is why I think it's a better idea for people to try it on a disc rather than digitally.

However the simple fact is that GTA V is far from average. In fact GTA V is probably the best game of the last decade.

So wait....Spark doesn't like Bloodborne?

Well...that's news to me.

So you say sales don't matter but reviews do? Reviews mean nothing especially as most awful AAA games gets very high scores for example GTA IV is literally the highest scoring game on metacritic yet I've never played a more boring game in my life and it also removed all of the fun features of GTA San Andreas.

****. I didn't bite on anything over the xmas period but I am stone broke and wanting to buy something and I JUST so happen to have £25 on my PSN account.

Sold.

What the hell is this logic. Gta 5 has great reviews and you like it, so it's great. Bloodborne has great reviews and you don't like it, so it's bad. It's like arguing a food is bad just because you don't like it. It's just one of those things, everyone's taste preferences are different. Come on man. I mean no offense but if you're trolling, fine job.

Knowing his taste in games he probably thought The Order was 2015 GOTY lol.

I'm glad you made this post so any and all future posts to do with taste can be disregarded.

You like games that hand hold you through the experience. Others like challenge. Not sure why you felt the need to go with the fool and his money comment; the only fool is the one that buys a challenging game and then cries on a national deals website about how hard it is.

Can anyone confirm that a save from the vanilla disc version with work with a digital copy of the goty ?

Meh, bit.

Thanks OP ordered

Yes I can confirm the digital version works with old saves from the disc version. Confirmed working today to my relief.

Thanks mate someone else I know has also confirmed this. Just sold my disc on eBay delighted to have this digitally as I'd never sell it, it's too good. 

Up to £30 now?