Many people argue that extended rear facing seats are expensive. Not this one! Remember that even a cheap rear facing car seat is still much much safer than forward facing.
As of 9:57 20th Jan in stock only in Blackpool, Leeds and Salford. Not available for home delivery.
- OB1
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wild_quinine to andrewAJ
20 Jan 163#10
Specially since the kid will have to be in the boot the whole time.
OB1
20 Jan 163#6
Amazing price, crazy to put children front facing before they have to be (possibility of internal decapitation in an accident as no seatbelt supports the head), but unfortunately out of stock in most places as andrewAJ wrote.
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jdRiggs
15 Jan 17#30
You may well be a less distracted driver and yes that makes you a safer driver but it doesn't reduce the odds of an accident that is not your fault. forward facing seat puts the baby through much more force should that happen. Hopefully you will be lucky enough not to be in an accident but there is an element of luck in it.
Kid screams because he wants to play with the football in the middle of the road or wants to wade too deep in the ocean no one cares. They put their foot down that it is too dangerous and going to be allowed. end of. The new rules will bring about a cultural change about rear facing seats too but it will take time.
jdRiggs
15 Jan 17#29
it is group 0 and 1 from the looks of the picture.
Adam2050
20 Jan 16#13
This isn't an extended rear facing seat this is just a newborn rear facing, you will probably struggle to get a healthy 9 months old to stay happy in this seat for long, its a group one for much of its life 1-4 years.
The proper rear facing seats are over £300 new this is just a newborn car seat for me, though tbh if you have ISO fix, I wouldn't touch it, go for an ISO fix with tether. My boy wouldn't sit rear facing after 10 months he hated it, and basically we went with a front facing ISO fix seat with a tether.
laurieleigh to Adam2050
20 Jan 162#21
granted you're unlikely to get a child to age 4 rf in this seat but it's not much smaller than the Joie Stages and my 2.5 yr old still happily sits rf in that.
'group 1' refers to any car seat that accommodates a child 9-18kg, be it ff or rf.
there are numerous 'proper' rear facing seats below £300!
a seat fitted using isofix is not safer than a belt fixed seat but the chance of it being fitted incorrectly is reduced.
and tbh any parent that cares enough about the safety of their child to keep them rf past 9kg will have taken the 5 minutes it takes to read through the manual and ensured the seat is fitted correctly even if belt fixed
lots of people assume their fractious 9 month old is no longer happy rf when in reality it's got very little to do with the direction of travel and everything to do with the size of the seat and it's position in the car... erf seats are (obviously) bigger than infant carriers and sit higher up in the car
MistyUK to Adam2050
21 Jan 16#27
I find it rather scary that you claim to know anything about car seats yet don't know the difference between an infant carrier and a stage 1 rear facing seat. This is a stage 1 seat which should do up to 18kg. The only difference between isofix and belted seats is how they go in and the possibility of user error. There is no difference in safety when both are correctly fitted.
I'd also be surprised if a 10 month old genuinely cared whether they faced forwards. Mine happily looks out the window in her erf seat.
PoppaLop to Adam2050
21 Jan 16#28
It is ERF, my 30lb 2 year old happily sits in it no bother.
Isofix isn't safer, it reduces the risk of seat being incorrectly installed
Aliwoo18
21 Jan 162#26
I'm guessing (though could well be wrong) that statistically you probably have more chance of being involved in front impacts, and that they will tend to be higher energy. My reasoning is that more collisions with inanimate objects probably happen travelling forwards (sInce, aside from on the M25 at any given time, we tend to drive forwards mostly), rear-end accidents with inanimate objects will be low-speed, and (though a vehicle hitting you from behind could do so at any speed), chances are you will be travelling in the same direction or stationary, so your own momentum will not contribute positive energy to the collision - unlike a head-on where you could have a combined opposing speed of 120 mph on a national speed limit road.
Mark300ZX
20 Jan 161#22
Baby's heads are heavy, their necks are weak, hit another car, the weight of the head cause the baby's neck to snap, without being an expert in baby seats that is the general idea and that is why rear facing seats are generally regarded as being safer.
kennypowers2012 to Mark300ZX
21 Jan 16#25
what about a collision from the rear?
jammycakes
20 Jan 16#24
Out of stock
zawojak
20 Jan 16#23
since it's only £20 I am a bit sceptical about it, but heat added!
floypow
20 Jan 162#20
I'm sorry but I just find the above statement is nonsense.
Fact rear facing seats are safer watch any youtube safety video.. You don't need to be a scientist to see the difference!
Just because you "think" you are now a safer driver, does not mean instantly you won’t crash!! What about the other drivers on the road??
I would imagine ANY baby would cry if you had a crash in a car, irrelevant to what way they are facing in the seat.
So putting a child into a forward facing seat as soon as possible is not great safety advice.
The child will become use to rear facing, just like they become use to other new things in their life.
Buy a mirror that clips to the head rest and they will be able to see who is driving and they will be happy.
My advice keep your child in a rear facing seat as long as possible making sure the seat is fit for purpose, fitted correctly and correct for their age/weight etc.
We have an Axkid rear facing iso fix seat she is 3 ½ years old and we have no intention of turning her yet.
I love the idea of the new rules but when you have a baby that only screams in the car you soon look for alternatives. After trying a few rearward facing seats you buy a front facing seat as soon as possible and put him in it. I had an accident which was my fault whilst he was screaming his head off. I'm pretty sure I am a much safer driver now he is facing forward and happier.
dale86uk to onlineo
20 Jan 16#18
Did you try a dummy or a mirror mounted on the rear headrest?
karys76
20 Jan 16#17
Watched the video of how to fit the carseat correctly. Wow what a complicated way to adjust the harness. Were using a mamas and papas carseat at the moment and it's much easier to adjust the harness than that. It's a really good price if your on a budget though.
Banterlicious
20 Jan 162#16
It appears the babies make a lot of decisions regarding road safety.
honeymonster86
20 Jan 161#14
Yes, a very subjective notion that is. I don't disagree that in general they are safer, but to make a claim that any old rear-facing seat is safer than ANY forward facing seat is total nonsense.
Banterlicious
20 Jan 161#12
Rear facing seats are far safer, children should in them for as long as possible.
However, the seat must be of adequate condition/quality, be suitable for your car and be correctly fitted.Not all all seats fit all cars and even ISOFIX is not truly universal.
Some stores have accredited car seat fitters or your local Council may even offer this service. It really is worth making sure.
OB1
20 Jan 16#11
The assumption of common sense.
andrewAJ
19 Jan 16#5
salford, leeds, blackpool. a 3 hour drive to each is not worth it!
wild_quinine to andrewAJ
20 Jan 163#10
Specially since the kid will have to be in the boot the whole time.
honeymonster86
20 Jan 161#9
Based on what exactly is this assumption made?
djdanj89
20 Jan 161#8
Is it worth buying a cheap car seat? I wouldn't like to put vaule before safety
Amazing price, crazy to put children front facing before they have to be (possibility of internal decapitation in an accident as no seatbelt supports the head), but unfortunately out of stock in most places as andrewAJ wrote.
irishgoonergirl
19 Jan 16#4
is this available anywhere?
laurieleigh
19 Jan 16#3
Was posted at the weekend... out of stock most places as mentioned
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As of 9:57 20th Jan in stock only in Blackpool, Leeds and Salford. Not available for home delivery.
- OB1
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Latest comments (30)
Kid screams because he wants to play with the football in the middle of the road or wants to wade too deep in the ocean no one cares. They put their foot down that it is too dangerous and going to be allowed. end of. The new rules will bring about a cultural change about rear facing seats too but it will take time.
The proper rear facing seats are over £300 new this is just a newborn car seat for me, though tbh if you have ISO fix, I wouldn't touch it, go for an ISO fix with tether. My boy wouldn't sit rear facing after 10 months he hated it, and basically we went with a front facing ISO fix seat with a tether.
'group 1' refers to any car seat that accommodates a child 9-18kg, be it ff or rf.
there are numerous 'proper' rear facing seats below £300!
a seat fitted using isofix is not safer than a belt fixed seat but the chance of it being fitted incorrectly is reduced.
and tbh any parent that cares enough about the safety of their child to keep them rf past 9kg will have taken the 5 minutes it takes to read through the manual and ensured the seat is fitted correctly even if belt fixed
lots of people assume their fractious 9 month old is no longer happy rf when in reality it's got very little to do with the direction of travel and everything to do with the size of the seat and it's position in the car... erf seats are (obviously) bigger than infant carriers and sit higher up in the car
I'd also be surprised if a 10 month old genuinely cared whether they faced forwards. Mine happily looks out the window in her erf seat.
Isofix isn't safer, it reduces the risk of seat being incorrectly installed
Fact rear facing seats are safer watch any youtube safety video.. You don't need to be a scientist to see the difference!
Just because you "think" you are now a safer driver, does not mean instantly you won’t crash!! What about the other drivers on the road??
I would imagine ANY baby would cry if you had a crash in a car, irrelevant to what way they are facing in the seat.
So putting a child into a forward facing seat as soon as possible is not great safety advice.
The child will become use to rear facing, just like they become use to other new things in their life.
Buy a mirror that clips to the head rest and they will be able to see who is driving and they will be happy.
My advice keep your child in a rear facing seat as long as possible making sure the seat is fit for purpose, fitted correctly and correct for their age/weight etc.
We have an Axkid rear facing iso fix seat she is 3 ½ years old and we have no intention of turning her yet.
However, the seat must be of adequate condition/quality, be suitable for your car and be correctly fitted.Not all all seats fit all cars and even ISOFIX is not truly universal.
Some stores have accredited car seat fitters or your local Council may even offer this service. It really is worth making sure.