No. Only a Radeon R9 390X Crossfire or Geforce GTX Titan can run Minecraft on minimum settings.

You are strange guys.They make discount 5 pounds only!!!!! - and nearly everybody so excited about it.
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Even more.Why they should do bigger discounts if they see your reaction now :smiley: ........................unbelievable

Not a bad deal.

This is an awesome deal, great bang for buck on this card at this price for anyone looking for a mid range upgrade that's very capable of 1080p gaming.

Heat added

What's the price of a decent water block for this?

Are these one's Freesync compatible?

I don't think it would change anything. The GPU will use the same amount of power regardless.

Excellent, badly need to replace my two 6950s but not sure if I should go with a couple of 380s, Fury or 970.

I wouldn't go CFX, support is getting less and less with drivers and games. The Fury is quite a bit more expensive. Make sure you have a decent CPU to get the most out of it if you go that route.

If this goes out of stock Novatech has the XFX version for £159.98 with free delivery.

http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/amdradeongraphicscards/amdr9380series/XFX/R9-380P-4DF5.html?#utm_source=affiliatewindow&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=PCPartPicker

Not much of an improvement over my old 280x, unfortunately :disappointed:

GPU Boss comparison

PS Still voted hot as has new features like Freesync & DX12, not to mention more RAM (strangely though, the 280x trounces it in DX9, according to GPU Boss anyway)...

This is a good review, some of the games have a 7970 too.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_radeon_r9_380_strix_review,1.html

DX12 should give your 280x a boost if you can wait :smiley:

Can my cs450 psu handle this GPU? I have a 6300 CPU.

So you think this will be fine as long as I dont overclock any components?

If not overclocking it should be fine.

When you say a 6300 CPU, do you mean Intel or AMD? I wouldn't like to run a PSU close to it's maximum personally but it should be OK as long as you don't have half a dozen HDD's and/or OC the CPU and GPU.

Could it be used(CrossFired) together with Dual-X R9 280X 3G D5?

mUCH difference in 390 to this?

Good deal for a mid range rig

Great price, but can it run minecraft?

I have the MSI version of this card and it's been pretty great at running games like GTA5, Fallout 4 etc.
The only issue I've had is with the graphics on Telltale games like Game of Thrones, Walking Dead because of it using the same chip as the 285. Only solution is to use old drivers but finding one that works is a pain..Just something to be aware of if you like those games.

Or a HD7970

No. Only a Radeon R9 390X Crossfire or Geforce GTX Titan can run Minecraft on minimum settings.

​Yeah sorry what I meant was that perhaps not everyone will have 2 x 6pin connections available on their PSU but they might have a single 8pin... Just a thought, I realise the card draws the same power regardless :wink:

Me want - good price, have some heat!

I have an older Sumvision PowerX3 PRO 600W, but it has no 6 pin or 8 pin power connectors , can I make this card work somehow ?

So this is slightly slower than a 280X but has Freesync support.

I have an FX-8150 atm so contemplating going with either with an Intel 5820 or a 6700. The reason I've been putting it off is that this will be my VR machine but neither Oculus or Valve has released anything, so I guess I'll wait.

It's a good price but not an amazing deal. If you're running a 7950/70, or their rebaged versions the 280/x then you really won't get much out of this card. Some newer games perform better, but it's not a huge difference. You'd have to be looking at the 390/x (or the 290/x if you can find one) at a minimum. This card is a decent upgrade if you're running a GTX 660 or equivalent AMD to get a decent uplift.

Just cannot get my head around why anyone would go amd currently - I was AMD crazy at one point but since owning the 290x and 970gtx it all become clear - heat = throttling and also power - for me a 960 gtx over this purely for them reasons alone but think I gonna hold off for another 970 gtx this time around. - am I missing something - I realise the 970 gtx are £100 more but perform more also - but at this price point surely the 960 gtx ticks all the boxs ???

4gb 960s are available at this price, what makes this a better deal?

What would you recommend? My kid is building a PC, so is after a mid-range card.

960

960 gtx or stretch to 970 gtx is probably best advice. This if you like toasty and loud.

All brands relatively the same?

Cheers

I like Asus Strix (no fan until certain temp) good build and back plate generally
MSI good also.
Gigabyte G1 gaming supposed to be good. Personal pref really and warranty normally the decision maker otherwise.

4gb on 970 is standard and 2gb on 960gtx but for £166 you can get a 4gb 960gtx at minute (if you think the 4gb is worthwhile)

Both the 960 and 380 will be very similar in amount of power, loudness and heat.

You are strange guys.They make discount 5 pounds only!!!!! - and nearly everybody so excited about it.
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Even more.Why they should do bigger discounts if they see your reaction now :smiley: ........................unbelievable

The 380 performs slightly better giving around an extra 5fps. Tested on Bioshock Infinite and Crysis 3 DX11 - could be different with other games
Bioshock - 80fps @ 1080p
Crysis - 39fps @ 1080p

(Unfortunately Nate1492 can't use his common sense)

This type of blanket statement is almost always wrong.

Hmmm - I am sure Amazon have one at £165 4gb ! Not sure how 4gb fairs against the 2gb cards

I don't think it's worth upgrading my 2GB MSI 270X to this one... or is it?

better then 960 but stil its better give 80 quid more and get 970

That's exactly what I was thinking too. Thanks for the comment. :smiley:

I use this to help me work out graphic card upgrades - The gaming GPU hierarchy chart groups GPUs by performance. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html
Not sure it's worth upgrading my 2GB Sapphire HD7850 OC. Feels like getting another one for crossfire may be more worthwhile

Get a 970, its worth the extra money. If you want 4k gaming get a 980 ti. Brands can make a slight difference with cooler fans and overclocks.

The Radeon 380 is a rebadged 285 isn't it? It's a bit worse than a 280x in current games but does have that more future-proof feature set.

GPU Boss is not really worth looking at, you want somewhere with an actual documented testing methodology rather than figures plucked out of thin air.

How's this compare to 280x

I bought the 980 last month for about 300, haven't opened it yet as I've been busy. I know the 980 is the better card, but is it worth basically double this? I don't mind either way, very tempted by this though.

How's the fan noise ???

Would this make a sensible upgrade for the following system? I don't want to upgrade in parts if the rest of my PC will just bottle neck the performance anyway.

ummary
Operating System
Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1
CPU
Intel Core i5 2500K @ 3.30GHz 38 °C
Sandy Bridge 32nm Technology
RAM
8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 665MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
Gigabyte Technology Co. Ltd. Z68A-D3-B3 (Socket 1155) 37 °C
Graphics
LG TV ([email protected])
PL2475HD ([email protected])
1024MB ATI AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series (Sapphire/PCPartner) 62 °C
Storage
931GB SAMSUNG HD103SJ ATA Device (SATA) 31 °C
232GB Samsung SSD 840 EVO 250GB ATA Device (SSD) 35 °C
232GB Seagate ST3250620AS ATA Device (SATA) 38 °C
931GB Seagate Expansion USB Device (USB (SATA)) 27 °C
Optical Drives
PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-219L ATA Device
DTSOFT Virtual CdRom Device
Audio
AMD High Definition Audio Device

Is this worth the upgrade from a GTX 580 Hydro copper 1.5gb?? along with i7 950,12gb ram, rampage 2 extreme motherboard??

If only there was a good deal on the 390 :disappointed:

tons of reviews simply don't agree with you.

You mention common sense and then link gpu boss as if it is a highly respected review site.

Take a look at more than just one review that has two game benches.

I really don't understand how you think the comparison is simple. You need to know what CPU you are using as well.

Low to mid end cpus do not do well with amd cards. You have to be cautious, in dx11, with amd. If you don't have a 2500k of higher CPU, you may have a CPU bottleneck in many games.

It's an upgrade. If you are sold on amd, go for the 280x if you can swing 30 more. If you can stretch to 210 or so, go nvidia 970 or amd 290/390. Those are the best bang. You would be pushing the CPU with amd, so I lean towards nvidia for you. But both brands will be head to head.

If one has a gaming PC, surely they would know if they have a good cpu to match their gpu.

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-960-vs-AMD-R9-380/3165vs3482

Is this good enough for you (based on real world tests from users).

If not point me to another website.

Many don't know of the AMD CPU overhead issue. It can be a bottleneck with CPU/drawcall intensive games. It's more of a API bottleneck but NVIDIA is almost twice as efficient at it, in DX11.

So is this card better than the MSI GTX 960 2GB?

It depends on the CPU used and games played. A lot of benchmark/review sites use high-end 6 core Intel CPU's which negates a lot of the problem mentioned above.

Of course VRAM could be an issue but that's not what I'm talking about.

Hmm, yes totally understandable. CPU plays a major part, i've found using an SSD can also increase fps slightly. The only best way to decide is if the reviewers also let people know what specs they have to test the game.

User benckmaks is not real world tests. Not a single game or fps number is given.

Can you even name the benchmark suite? It's not useful for testing at all.

There is no info on any of the tests and has a bit of history of making up magic numbers.

You won't get any fps numbers, since it only tests the hardware. For fps reading you can buy the game and test it yourself :smiley:
As you can see on the website the r9 380 has better effective speed based on the best user benchmark for the GPU. There are also users with speeds lower but that doesn't matter since both GPU's have been tested with best components.

No, you are missing the point. This doesn't test the hardware. The test ran isn't even listed. There are many theoretical tests around, but they have been held in low regard because they don't match real world performance. And the fact they don't even mention the tests ran is a very bad sign.

Also, really, did you just say you can buy the game and try it yourself?????? That is an insane way of testing a graphics card. There are countless reviews available, why not use them?

I'm not sure buying a GPU without reading proper reviews is a good idea either. Websites like GPUBoss aren't very useful.

http://www.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu/AMD+Radeon+R9+380/review

http://www.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu/NVIDIA+GeForce+GTX+960/review

Results based on the worlds most popular benchmark software since 1997.

If we used this world's most popular synthetic benchmarks website as reference we'd all believe a R9 Fury is outperformed by a R9 390X which doesn't seem right.

That's a much better way to compare them :smiley:

hmmmm... wondering whether to try to get this or to get a second hand card to crossfire my Sapphire OC 2GB 7850?

CPU is an i5 3570k and I'm running 8GB RAM in my system

This is a slightly better way. But there is little info on the test setup, what CPU, etc. The future mark review is theoretical and usually wrong.

Omg!
There are plenty of other video reviews on youtube comparing both gpu's. They haven't used the same setup and they still get a better framerate on the r9 380 around an extra ~5fps just like the websites gpu boss, futuremark/3dmark 11, gpu benchmark detail. It's not much but the r9 380 is the better card. It's even better at Witcher 3 and that's a Nvidia optimized game. The 960 is only worth buying if its significantly cheaper and if you don't mind the 1-5 frame rate loss.

There's enough info in the video description.


TEST SYSTEM
- Intel Core i5-6600K
- Kingston HyperX Predator DDR4-3000 (4x4GB kit)
- Asus Z170 Extreme4+ (Intel Z170)
- Nvidia GeForce GTX 960 (2GB)
- AMD Radeon R9 380 (2GB)
- Corsair AX Series AX860i
- Samsung SSD 850 Pro 2TB
Drivers
- Nvidia GeForce 355.98
- AMD Catalyst 15.9.1 Beta

There it is, on a mobile and didn't expand far enough down.

That confirms my concern. This was a high end CPU with a medium grade card, the CPU isn't a typical migrade setup.

That's usually the case with most reviews/benchmarks, sadly.

Anyone know if a 500w power supply would suffice?