Backup, factory reset, restore.

Cool story bro.

Yeah, the average stoner will get through that in a day.

It's not refurbished. It's second hand.

3. Moderate scratches and scuffs on the aluminium back casing and sides.

Thanks for the info! Think I'm going to go with a second hand ebay job for now around the £180 mark

Is this sim free in any way or purely an upgrade on your SIM so locked to say Orange if you Upgrade on that ?

Does anyone know if I can just order a cheap Vodaphone PAYG sim for the mobile number to get the discount? Also, if I get the upgrade version, is it already locked to Vodaphone? Really tempted at the upgrade price but want to use my Tescos SIM card.

Bought it, good deal. Was looking for a sim free iphone but didn't want to pay iphone 6/6s prices. 16gb isn't ideal but its enough for now.

I mean using iOS 8 won't update as it will probably brick my phone. The only thing I hate about Apple especially as it's one the most expensive phones

Thanks! Three is total pants in my area, i had 2 years of hell in a contract with them. Will check out the link :smiley:

picked up one of these for my son for his birthday, anyone recommend a good network to go with mostly wanting data.

I'm using the 5 and still using 80

Could you give a family members Vodafone details and then Put your own sim in?

Factory reset both to no avail ... how can two pieces of hardware be faulty.
Bottom line is ... do what you please folks - I am not one to troll and was just sharing my own experiences.
Who knows, might be some other issue

The site requests a SIM serial number but I'm not with Vodaphone (it's almost like they want to limit it to Vodaphone customers...), so is that the end of my dated Apple tech owning dream?

lol, true true and I stammer stammer :wink:

You're not not a nob.

Double negative is a positive. Agreed.

16GB phones should be abolished.

Ooo! I was considering the s5 and s5 Neo but now this has appeared...Which should I buy?

PS Is that EXTRA20 code for £20 off anything at CPW?

I've just been as far as the checkout for this, and it hasn't asked me a Vodafone confirmation number or anything - is there any reason I couldn't get this and put in a different sim?

How are they after you do the reset but before the restore? If they are laggy then it's a hardware issue [quote=joxeruk2000]

Laggy after factory reset.
How sure are you its a hw issue? Was absolutely fine on previous version of ios ...

are you aware that an ad hominem attack says far more about you than your target ?

the facts may not be palatable for either of you but they are far easier to understand.

apple release small computers that are also called iphones. as is normal in the development cycle of technology the hardware becomes more powerful and the software on it utilises that power. therefore over time things become redundant or software developed for a different platform no longer works properly. this software sometimes misbehaves and locks up or really really slows down the new software as they clash.

an example of this is the pc which once upon a time ran a system called windows xp. however that is no longer available as the great god called development cycle announced that it was too old and the old steam driven pc that ran it were to old to support any longer.

so some people called users resent this and make rash claims about the manufacturer being out to get them. they want everything to stay the same and for what was, is and shall be to continue.

the truth in this instance is that IOS 9 works and works well on iphone 5S. it doesn't make the phone grind to a halt. however, maybe some very very naughty old applications do.

No.

I think if you upgrade your phone software and it becomes unusable the companies should take responsibility. My missus had two new hand sets in a week. First for dropping calls, 2nd wouldn't turn on after an update and the 3rd one is still dropping calls. Perhaps our house is a black spot I don't know. (iPhone 6)
I just complained to garmin after an update failed and the device would no longer turn on. I was out of warranty but they agreed to send me a refurb out if I returned the device. Do Apple do such things?

I have updated the iOS on my iPhone 4s and iPad 2 and they both have a lag now.
I know they are old but they're not obsolete.

I'm also running a 5s 16GB on 9.2 with only 1 issue, when someone txts me their number comes up, not the name, when I go to msgs the name is there. No biggie but slightly annoying!
Given a 2nd chance I'd prefer more memory than 16GB though

My iPhone is a 5S running 9.2 and there is no noticeable slow down at all, absolutely none and all I've done is upgrade, no factory resets required.
And my iPad2 is very old, it has slowed down a bit, but I am using it with 9.2 to make this comment with no problem at all.
I'd suggest that you have some other problem other than just the iOS version.

Not quite. Most of CPW's stock will be unlocked but the nature of how they buy is if they can source stock cheaper from the network locked they may do that. Remember anything that's network exclusive eg a particular colour or finish will almost always be sourced from a network and locked. There is no way to tell if a phone from CPW is locked or unlocked before you get to see the box.

Chances are it will be unlocked but it's not a guarantee. I've had locked and unlocked phones from CPW in the past.


You need to do as others have advised. Back them up reset and factory resort them. My iPad 2 16gb and iPhone 5 16gb both are fine no noticeable slow down on either due to the OS. Sure they are not the fastest thing ever and yes some apps are slow to open but I can't say that the OS upgrade alone made any noticeable difference the apps were slow before and after the upgrade.

And yes some apps need the latest software. What new in that. No different to a PC where a game requires say win 10 and won't run in win 7. At least Apple give you the option to upgrade like many Android makers who seem to practically stop OS upgrades the moment the phone stops being made (Sony certainly seem to in my experience)

Really............

Updated my 5s yesterday to 9.2 no problems at all no slow down
Does that make me "the lowest form of life on Earth " ?

I know it's really disconcerting as certainly the iPhone 5s has enough power to be a perfectly usable phone. The worst thing about Apple is not their practices to force updates on you, it's their fan base. I truly believe Apple apologists are the lowest form of life on Earth utterly devoid of sympathy and camaraderie for their fellow users. Look at the guy below your comment. Utterly blind to the fact our claims could not be unsubstantiated as we own these devices and speak from experience. So eager yet to call us liars. It's fascinating and sad but I truly think Apple fans at no better than nazis and terrorists. Just look upappleforums where anyone who dares to post an issue with the hardware or software and legions upon legions of people literally run the person out telling them they're using the product wro or simply lying. Worse so they get personal about it. Anyhow just having my penny's worth sitting on the loo at 4am but I empathise with you. There's forums of people saying the same thing as Us.

This or galaxy S6? haha

16GB is pretty low

Has anyone recently brought an iphone from New York , I would be interested in what was paid.

Thanks

how very strange. it seems as tho unsubstantiated stories abound.

Just had to upgrade my iphone 5 S which was working perfectly on ios 8.1.2 because there wasno way to activate my apple watch without updating (and the jailbreak community being absolute filth of the earth) and I havce to say, this phone is crippled and unusable under ios 9.2. Shocking. I always stray away form updating apple devices from their stock ios but this one has shocked even me.

I am a great Apple fan and still think it worthwhile paying for Macs. However, their phone prices are crazy and they lost me now. I have an LG G4 and it's great. My daughter insists on having an iPhone simply because of Face time. Wife is going to give her my wife's old 5s-amazed at how much is still being charged for these. Wife has just upgraded to an Honor 7 at £175 on that deal yeterday and it blows the 5s out of the water, it is substantially better.

Most will find 16th too little after a while.

Also like the 5th thing you will read on your link also!

Be careful with Carphone Warehouse 'unlocked' iPhones - they always used to lock to the first SIM put in them.

It's on their site http://selfhelp.carphonewarehouse.com/SelfHelp/request.do?view()=c%7Bede583e0-1fa9-11df-4872-f20203001e3d%7D

[email protected] for an iPhone deal. I'm awesome.

Always hateful seeing prices slide the other side of Christmas but the OH wanted it so not much can be done good price cheapest I could get the phone for was £300 from cex grade a heat added !!

I am on a sim only 30 day contract with Talkmobile who use the Vodafone network. Am I correct in assuming....if I buy the handset at the Vodafone upgrade price of £239 my sim should work? Thanks in advance for any advice given.

Really can't call any iPhone from companies on eBay refurbished not in the sense of what people consider refurbished bought one the other week, good seller or so it seemed turned out it was made out of parts bin pieces and had a iPad mini serial number! If you want refurbished best to go with something like o2 refresh or giffgaff in most cases you end up wth a near brand new phone.

Exactly

Backup, factory reset, restore.

It's not refurbished. It's second hand.

3. Moderate scratches and scuffs on the aluminium back casing and sides.

Better deal:
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/refurbished-iphone-5s-16b-1-year-warranty-187-99-delivered-from-ebay-universalgadgets01-2348136

Refurbished, unlocked, 12 months warranty @ £184.99

Thank you kind Sir, might grab this phone for the wife tomorrow

So if I bought pay as you go, I can throw away £259.99 and put in my own contract SIM card?

All I can say is mine is a 64GB model with music, thousands of pictures, thousandsand thousands of textx and emails. Now I know people will say well purge some emails, however that is a stupid suggestion as if I need my content on there I need it on there. Also it was working 90% better under ios 8.1.2. Now? it has not only slowed down to a scratch, I need to tap things twice to get them to launch, I have to type slower than before as the screen just doesn't recognise whatever I type, and whatsapp, outlook, the browser and texts are a pain to use. The camera is crippled also. Sorry but I think you're very lucky but mine is a snail now.

Good price and I'm looking for one, but quite like the giffgaff tariff, so sadly not for me.

Fair price IMO

Locks to first sim, so put a sim in that is cheap and easy to unlock than one thats almost impossible!!

I believe 3 and O2 are easiest to unlock in my experience.

Worth mentioning the upgrade is only available to Vodafone customers