yeah, my BenQ VA panel is true 8bit, while my IPS is 6bit, I forgot about that

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Quite true, i fell for the ips bandwagon believing all ips screens where 8bit pure, because of the DELLs .. The then crap yet good but crap LG 6bit +2bit frame rate control panels flooded the market.

i now have a benq ew2740wl (lw) and thats pure 8bite plus va :smiley: .. one happy bunny ..

Correct. Although budget IPS panels are in fact 6-bit with FRC. Hard to believe but true.

IPS got it's strong reputation via high-end professional panels. But in order to bring IPS down to consumer prices, they cut a bunch of corners and created new types of affordable panels which are in reality pretty close to TN in terms of quality and performance. But they kept the IPS designation prominent on the advertising.

Budget IPS panels are usually 6-bit with FRC. Nothing in the <£1000 nowadays comes with an a-tw polarizer. So they all have awful glow. The fascination with thinness and small bezels means they all have awful uniformity and bleed.

The TLDR is that a £200 IPS monitor has very similar picture quality similar to a same-price TN. Slightly worse pixel response time, slightly better viewing angles. That's it really.

VA panels I would avoid, because it tries to be the best of both worlds (TN and IPS), it suffers from ghosting average viewing angle. If you need a monitor for online gaming then TN is the way to go, if for colour accuracy and digital editing then IPS.

I have tried several VA panels in the last few months from difference manufacturers and they were all a bit poo.

EDIT: I haven't voted up or down for this, I am not that petty

At this size get a 1440p one, too big for sharp 1080p

hehe, i tried to post this yesterday, but hukd wouldnt let me :-) looks good, but after reading what people say, glad got other one. yesterday oveclockers had "Acer G257HL 25" 1920x1080 IPS Widescreen LED Zeroframe Monitor" at £109, £121 delivered.

hot for me good find op

I have the 1440p version of this monitor and it is very impressive. This one appears to use the same VA technology so I would recommend it for those who prefer 1080p on a 27" (older folks usually). Would buy for grandma.

Bought the wife one for Christmas before the price drop. It's not a 'gaming monitor', but then it's only £125 and the image quality is more than adequate for general usage.

I grabbed one of these from ebuyer last week for £120 and can definitely give it a thumbs up.

Be aware it has no speakers or audio pass through so it's not ideal for a games console unless you are using the optical out on them.

For image quality I'm really happy with it. Being 1080p it's not exactly retina at say a comfortable 24" viewing distance, in fact it looks fairly grainy. Sitting back at say 40-50" to watch a film though and it's fine. At that distance to be honest a higher resolution would be wasted. So to watch video and to game on the 1080p resolution is probably preferable given how easy it is for your computer to draw. But the windows desktop is a compromise being a lower pixel pitch than you would really want. As a second monitor to game and watch video on it's perfect, and for the price I don't think you can really grumble that it's not 1440p. Once ultrawide 34" monitors hit a comfortable price point for me I'll be donating it to the parents as even on their 1080p 24" monitor they are putting Windows display scaling up to 125% so this will probably be perfect for them.

Colour reproduction is great. Watching a 10bit x265 video colours are fantastic and blacks are almost OLED deep. Colours don't quite leap out of the screen like the IPS panel on my Dell Venue 11 does, but that has a gloss screen where as this Acer is an anti-glare coated screen. I think comparing like with like there isn't a massive amount in it and next to a TN display it still blows it away. Viewing angles are great, maybe not up to IPS angles but you have to be at an extreme angle to actually get any variation. It's not like with a TN where just moving your head changes all the colours and contrast, you would have to move to an unrealistic and unusable angle to actually compromise the image on this VA panel.

It's also really bright. I'm at 10% brightness 50% contrast. Even if you're in a room with a lot of daylight there's a lot of headroom to cope with it.

Mine will run at up to 75hz 1080p using a custom resolution in the Radeon Crimson settings. My eyes can't really see the difference from 60hz to be honest though. 60fps video and most games look butter smooth, but in an FPS making quick mouse movements or moving a window quickly in Windows and I can see some motion blurring/ghosting. It's very mild though, I have to be actually looking for it to notice.

The bezel is fairly big at about 20mm. It's going to be a matter of personal preference how much that bothers you.

Finally the power LED is an annoyingly bright, cheap looking blue affair. At certain angles it really glares at you, bleeds through the gaps in the other buttons and just looks tacky like all blue LED's do. Because it's right inbetween the power button and on screen display control buttons you can't easily cover it. It's the only thing I would say lets the monitor down. Other 'down sides' are actually perfectly acceptable given the price, but that power LED is just awful. It's like having someone shine a laser pen in your eye.

Very good price and not a TN panel...HOT

I have this monitor I got it when it was on here for £115 not that long ago. I use it dual monitor with a 50in LG plasma that I also got via here for £200. Very very happy with both and very happy with HUKD for allowing me to find two great bargains. This is a good monitor IMO. If I had one complaint it would be the connector for the DVI - it's fiddly to turn the screws on each side of the DVI connector because the socket is not in the best position. Great picture IMO but I don't have anything similar to compare it to.

Yes it does have HDMI and as a member of AVF I'd get free delivery too.

Again, as with earlier cheap 32 inch TV. this could be a perfect donor screen for this. Just need to make sure it's got full hdmi input (which I haven't done yet).

I can get a TN panel for the same price, however its from an unknown brand and i don't really trust it. i can however get an IPS for £20 more Here Also, can all IPS screens be overclocked to higher refresh rates (even if it is a lottery, but even just 15hz more would be good) for example) Thank you :smiley:

Just to add there is a TN panel over at amazon for 10 quid more

http://www.amazon.co.uk/AOC-E2770SHE-Widescreen-Monitor-1920x1080/dp/B00G51XHNK/ref=sr_1_9?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1451433704&sr=1-9&keywords=27%27+monitor

Honestly I really wouldn't go with it, its not so much of a problem when the whole screen is lit up, if you have dark areas you will notice the ghosting even more. I played Titanfall on the panel along with C&C and some counterstrike, refresh rate couldn't keep up, resulting in blurred imaging.

Its your choice obviously, although IMHO you would be better saving your money up and putting it towards a 27' TN or IPS which will cost more but operate better.

Thanks for this just bought as been looking for a 27" monitor for sometime but not many below £140

Thank you

Any ideas on refresh rate

Delivery is a bit steep, but looks good.

Is it IPS?