Fancy a road trip. Check out this 3 week trip for you more adventurous travellers that incorporates Los Angeles, San Diego, Palm Springs, Vegas, Yosemite, San Fran/Monterey and Santa Barbara. This may be a bit packed for people but you can adjust the itinerary to suit. Flights are from Birmingham to La return (although you could probably try and see if you can get flights in to La and out of SF but they were far more expensive and one way rental charges for the car too so this is far more cost effective). All accommodation is well reviewed and located in good positions to allow you to make the most out of your trip.
On 10th March you will arrive at Los Angeles and collect your car and drive to Titta Inn. You will spend 3 nights in LA.
On 13th March you will drive to San Diego where you will stay for 3 nights at the Old Town Inn.
On 16th March you will drive to Palm Springs where you will stay for 3 nights at the Motel 6 Downtown.
On 19th March you will head for Vegas. I've chosen a bit of luxury here at the Westin Las Vegas Hotel. Ballys and those off the strip are cheaper so you can look elsewhere but remember to check resort fees carefully as these quickly bump your price up. You will stay for 4 nights in Vegas.
On 23rd March you will drive to Yosemite via Death Valley where you will spend 3 nights at the Best Western Yosemite Plus. You could break this up and overnight around Death Valley if you wanted to spend more time en route.
On 26th March you'll drive to San Francisco where you will stay for 2 nights at the Lombard Motor Inn.
On 28th March you'll take the short drive to Monterey where you will stay at the Lone Oak for 2 nights.
On 30th March you'll spend your final night in Santa Barbara at the Orange Tree Inn.
On 31st March you'll head back to La for your flight home where you'll return the car.
Details:
Flights from Birmingham to Los Angeles £634.18 for 2 adults.
Car hire with Avios pick up and return from LA airport. Book this via British Airways Executive Club. If you don't have an account sign up for one it is free. This is for a mid size car and I like booking via BA for a number of reasons. You get cashback tracked which is always reliable. You get Avios and also a number if perks included for no extra charge such as additional driver etc. If this doesn't appeal you can look for cheaper. Car Hire £353 @ British Airways.
3 nights in San Diego at Old Town Inn £170 @ www.booking.com
3 nights in Palm Springs at Motel 6 Downtown £228.07 @ www.expedia.co.uk
4 nights in Las Vegas at the Westin £284.68 plus £76.02 resort fees @ Expedia
3 nights at Yosemite Best Western £154.20 @ Expedia (use 10% code available on Hukd voucher section)
2 nights in San Francisco at Lombard Motor Inn £170.23 @ Expedia (use code above).
2 nights in Monterey at Lone Oak £106.34 @ Expedia
1 night In Santa Barbara at the Orange Tree Inn £47 @ booking.com
Total £2413.75/£1206.37pp (includes resort fees in Vegas and all accommodation has free parking).
Don't forget Nectar points when booking with Expedia as you could accrue a fair few points!
Top comments
jibbajabba3
5 Jan 166#20
Nice trip and good price but a word of warning on the Las Vegas > Yosemite bit, Tioga pass and most of the other routes over the Sierra nevadas will most likely be closed for the winter, especially with the amount of snow they are receiving this year due to El Niño. The quickest alternative is via I15 at over 440 miles!
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rachelandgromit
4 Jan 16#1
rachelandgromit
4 Jan 16#2
rachelandgromit
4 Jan 16#3
archer1204 to rachelandgromit
4 Jan 16#5
Wheres the penguin pics
MCGONIS
4 Jan 16#4
Superb
rachelandgromit
4 Jan 16#6
Wheres the penguin pics[/quote]
You really want to see some? Hang about Got baaad jetlag and can't sleep!!!
rachelandgromit
4 Jan 161#7
Here you go archer, especially for you!
archer1204
4 Jan 16#8
You really want to see some? Hang about Got baaad jetlag and can't sleep!!![/quote]Yes please takes me back to my falkland days
archer1204
4 Jan 16#9
What other sea creatures you see elephant seals up close are amazing
archer1204
4 Jan 16#10
just out of interest what camera do you normally use for these pics
rachelandgromit to archer1204
5 Jan 16#11
Err a Panasonic TZ something or other. Just a compact zoom one. I was lucky with those shots. Loved the elephant seals/kings on South Georgia and rockhoppers on New Island and baby gentoo penguins on Grave Cove.
archer1204
5 Jan 16#12
Its amazing how close you can get to the elephant seals before they suddenly come to life.Did you stop off at the falklands by the way
rachelandgromit
5 Jan 161#13
Only Grave Cove and New Island not Stanley unfortunately. We had 3 days in South Georgia and then time in South Shetlands and Antarctica. Weather was fantastic,snow on Xmas day too, even the Drake was calm (apparently) but I was still sick (I'd hate to see it rough)!
Yes those seals look like rocks. I almost fell over this little guy(!) until he barked at me!
archer1204
5 Jan 16#14
seeing hill cove brought back happy memories spent over 18 months flying all over the islands in my previous life.Glad you had a great time did you actually make land on antarctica
rachelandgromit
5 Jan 16#15
Yep we did indeed - Brown bluff, did some hiking too. Beautiful part of the world. Would go back in a heartbeat.
archer1204
5 Jan 16#16
We use to pop over to sealion island to see the dailly battle of survival between the seals and killer whales beaching themselves
rachelandgromit
5 Jan 16#17
Wow I thought my whale pictures were good but we never got that close!!! Saw humpback, killer, fin but that is a great picture.
archer1204
5 Jan 16#18
Starting to get tired so will say goodnight hopefully you get back into a proper sleeping pattern.
mousey
5 Jan 16#19
Fab photos
jibbajabba3
5 Jan 166#20
Nice trip and good price but a word of warning on the Las Vegas > Yosemite bit, Tioga pass and most of the other routes over the Sierra nevadas will most likely be closed for the winter, especially with the amount of snow they are receiving this year due to El Niño. The quickest alternative is via I15 at over 440 miles!
N1AK to jibbajabba3
5 Jan 16#22
That's the one bit of the trip I think would benefit from reconsidering. Doing Vegas to the "Yosemite" hotel via Tioga pass is a long drive and is unlikely to be open in March anyway, the route around the bottom is still 7 hours and boring; furthermore the hotel is actually 1.5-2 hours from Yosemite Village.
Phila4 to jibbajabba3
5 Jan 161#24
Beat me to it! It may not be shut but a very good chance it will be!
Personally, having done this trip, I really wouldn't advise booking hotels in advance - there will be so much to see that you will get bogged down in so many places to stop and see things and you'll quickly realise your schedule is very restrictive and will likely resent it. Hotels are generally everywhere and we found it so much better just going with the flow and booking a hotel either on the morning early before setting out or even just turning up and checking in at whatever is nearby whenever you want to stop in the evening.
As for the trip between Vegas and Yosemite, we could only recall one hotel midway in the Death Valley area. This was Furnace Creek Inn which was quite nice (next to a golf course) but very expensive (well, a good £200+ per night IIRC). Oh there was another one actually called Stovepipe Wells but didn't stay there. Basically I love the drive between Yosemite and Vegas but it's largely desert and mountains and not much else.
Also be aware that the drive up/down/up/down to Yosemite is not for the faint hearted - they are mountain roads and in many places there is little to no safety barrier. In some places the drop is pretty sheer and can be several thousand feet down!
We headed from the Fresno (western) side of Yosemite heading east towards Vegas using the Tioga pass. When you come out of Yosemite the road just gets higher, higher and higher before it starts going down again. We reached something like 3,400m above sea level (about 11,000 feet) before going downhill and you need to make sure you leave yourself enough time to get down before dark as it gets very dark very quickly, especially if cloudy as you go above the clouds before heading down through them.
On the way down our brakes failed and, in a nutshell, we almost died. We were left stranded halfway down in pitch black darkness and had no option but to proceed down as we couldn't get any phone signal so couldn't call for help. We had to let the brakes cool a bit before setting off and had to use what was left of the brakes but mainly by using the gears to limit speed. It didn't help having endless other drivers behind us hooting us as we were going so slow - they wanted to get down too! It was horrendous and scared the life out of us. It had been a great day but was spoilt by the ending.
The trick is to use your gears to restrict speed and use your brakes as little as possible and when you do, pump them to keep the temps down. I was actually told this in the morning when I stopped at a store heading up to Yosemite but basically forgot what the woman told me until the brakes failed! The car (Grand Caravan (Voyager)) only had, I think, 1,200 miles on the clock. Probably the weight of the car/van didn't help and contributed to the brakes failing.
This kind of road trip is truly amazing, but people should be aware that the Yosemite sector can be daunting due to the high mountain roads. We went in early October and there was no snow, although when we finally got down the other side we stayed at a fantastic small town called Massive Lakes - a kind of Austrian looking town which is in fact a skiing attraction in winter. That night it did start to snow and no doubt the roads we'd been on earlier up in Yosemite would have been treacherous.
To be honest, going in March is too risky as the roads may be closed, or may not but there is a risk that it could snow whilst you're up there. I'd recommend going in late April to late September.
skyebluebirch
5 Jan 16#21
Stay in hostels they are much more cheaper and you'll get to meet some amazing people plus you'll have a kitchen and most hostels provide breakfast
rachelandgromit to skyebluebirch
5 Jan 16#23
Agree, I did see some great hostels with private rooms but shared bathrooms which some people are not a fan of, but I'd probably do the same or look at Airbnb too. I'm sure this would reduce the price further. It may also provide a wider range of accommodation options particularly around Yosemite where the choice was somewhat limited and expensive.
Phila4
5 Jan 16#25
Oh yeah, another thing I just remembered. When you drive up at altitude the air becomes very thin which means your breathing is affected (just walking along you get out of breath) and it really hammers the car - the one we had (1,200 miles on the clock so basically new) REALLY struggled and sounded like it was about to give up the ghost any second. It was hard to accelerate and felt as rough as hell. We thought it was going to clap out as it was getting slower and slower and rougher and rougher, but once we headed downhill again it recovered fairly quickly. If you can find the Topgear episode where they drive at altitude through Bolivia towards the western coast you'll get an idea as to how thin air at altitude can affect you and a car!
But don't let any of this put you off!!
delsaber
5 Jan 16#26
Brilliant trip! Been to most places in that list and Yosemite, vegas and San Fran are fantastic places.
nzadok
5 Jan 16#27
Did a similar 20 night trip in the summer, 2300 miles covering LA, Grand Canyon, Vegas Death Valley, Yosemite, San Francisco, Monterey, Pismo and back to LA, amazing holiday, highly recommended. 2 adults and 2 teenagers driving a minivan staying in motels and hotels, cost just under 5k, so this looks like a good deal
nzadok
5 Jan 16#28
Did a similar 20 night trip in the summer, 2300 miles covering LA, Grand Canyon, Vegas Death Valley, Yosemite, San Francisco, Monterey, Pismo and back to LA, amazing holiday, highly recommended. 2 adults and 2 teenagers driving a minivan staying in motels and hotels, cost just under 5k, so this looks like a good deal
mattturner756
5 Jan 16#29
Word of warning; so a thread on Reddit which said that they booked hotels under Expedia and they hire never received the money and experia kept it as it was basically "on hold"
Worth emailing the hotels to check the booking. Other than that really good deal
mattturner756 to mattturner756
5 Jan 16#30
Unsure why there are so many spelling mistakes. Blame it on the autocorrect on iPhone. Can't edit either sorry everyone!
badgerman2
5 Jan 16#31
If you're considering this, just do it - California is breathtaking.
We did a similar trip, minus Vegas, last month. Palm Springs was nice - the aerial tramway in particular. Very thin air up there! From there we went up to Death Valley. We did plan to go via the Mojave, but it was a bit too far.
Tioga Pass was closed, so we snaked from Death Valley to Yosemite on the Western side. Long way, but still interesting. I wouldn't like to drive some of those roads in the snow, mind. Yosemite is simply beautiful. Jaw-dropping.
We stayed at Furnace Creek in DV, it was about £100 per night. Yosemite View Lodge, just outside the park, was about £80 iirc. Then we blew the budget at The Clement Intercontinental at Monterey :smiley:
We went from -4c and thick snow in the am at Yosemite to 28c and sun at Monterey in the pm. Ace memories. It was our third time in CA, and we still feel like we want to go back to see more.
john68
5 Jan 16#32
Wow all sounds fantastic. Would love to do something similar with my two teenagers next year but wouldn't know where to start!! Can you sleep 2 adults, two teens in rooms generally?
rachelandgromit to john68
5 Jan 16#33
I'm not sure but depending on the ages the teens they may be classed as adults? May be worth looking at apartments or similar in Airbnb?
john68
5 Jan 16#34
Would be 17 and 16 and we are only able to travel in the summer holidays!
nickbooth
5 Jan 16#35
My top tip for planning (and managing) a US road trip is learn how to use Furkot.com. It's not the easiest of websites to use, but is amazingly powerful once you get used to it and it can even send your planned route to a range of satnavs (the shortest route between two places is not always the most interesting!). You can set a daily maximum for the number of hours to drive each day (and override this if you wish). Furkot will then automatically suggest where to stop, which hotels to book (within a budget you set) and highlight interesting sights that are within a certain distance of your route.
Furkot also allows you to edit and update the route as you go and allows you to keep an eye on your end date (assuming you've got fixed dates).
lambert22
6 Jan 16#36
Would love to do a trip incorporating New Orleans, St. Pete's , Clearwater and Florida Keys, do you have any ideas on best way to plan it please?
Opening post
On 10th March you will arrive at Los Angeles and collect your car and drive to Titta Inn. You will spend 3 nights in LA.
On 13th March you will drive to San Diego where you will stay for 3 nights at the Old Town Inn.
On 16th March you will drive to Palm Springs where you will stay for 3 nights at the Motel 6 Downtown.
On 19th March you will head for Vegas. I've chosen a bit of luxury here at the Westin Las Vegas Hotel. Ballys and those off the strip are cheaper so you can look elsewhere but remember to check resort fees carefully as these quickly bump your price up. You will stay for 4 nights in Vegas.
On 23rd March you will drive to Yosemite via Death Valley where you will spend 3 nights at the Best Western Yosemite Plus. You could break this up and overnight around Death Valley if you wanted to spend more time en route.
On 26th March you'll drive to San Francisco where you will stay for 2 nights at the Lombard Motor Inn.
On 28th March you'll take the short drive to Monterey where you will stay at the Lone Oak for 2 nights.
On 30th March you'll spend your final night in Santa Barbara at the Orange Tree Inn.
On 31st March you'll head back to La for your flight home where you'll return the car.
Details:
Flights from Birmingham to Los Angeles £634.18 for 2 adults.
Car hire with Avios pick up and return from LA airport. Book this via British Airways Executive Club. If you don't have an account sign up for one it is free. This is for a mid size car and I like booking via BA for a number of reasons. You get cashback tracked which is always reliable. You get Avios and also a number if perks included for no extra charge such as additional driver etc. If this doesn't appeal you can look for cheaper. Car Hire £353 @ British Airways.
3 nights in LA at Titto Inn £189.03 @ www.expedia.co.uk
3 nights in San Diego at Old Town Inn £170 @ www.booking.com
3 nights in Palm Springs at Motel 6 Downtown £228.07 @ www.expedia.co.uk
4 nights in Las Vegas at the Westin £284.68 plus £76.02 resort fees @ Expedia
3 nights at Yosemite Best Western £154.20 @ Expedia (use 10% code available on Hukd voucher section)
2 nights in San Francisco at Lombard Motor Inn £170.23 @ Expedia (use code above).
2 nights in Monterey at Lone Oak £106.34 @ Expedia
1 night In Santa Barbara at the Orange Tree Inn £47 @ booking.com
Total £2413.75/£1206.37pp (includes resort fees in Vegas and all accommodation has free parking).
Don't forget Nectar points when booking with Expedia as you could accrue a fair few points!
Top comments
All comments (36)
You really want to see some? Hang about Got baaad jetlag and can't sleep!!!
Yes those seals look like rocks. I almost fell over this little guy(!) until he barked at me!
Personally, having done this trip, I really wouldn't advise booking hotels in advance - there will be so much to see that you will get bogged down in so many places to stop and see things and you'll quickly realise your schedule is very restrictive and will likely resent it. Hotels are generally everywhere and we found it so much better just going with the flow and booking a hotel either on the morning early before setting out or even just turning up and checking in at whatever is nearby whenever you want to stop in the evening.
As for the trip between Vegas and Yosemite, we could only recall one hotel midway in the Death Valley area. This was Furnace Creek Inn which was quite nice (next to a golf course) but very expensive (well, a good £200+ per night IIRC). Oh there was another one actually called Stovepipe Wells but didn't stay there. Basically I love the drive between Yosemite and Vegas but it's largely desert and mountains and not much else.
Also be aware that the drive up/down/up/down to Yosemite is not for the faint hearted - they are mountain roads and in many places there is little to no safety barrier. In some places the drop is pretty sheer and can be several thousand feet down!
We headed from the Fresno (western) side of Yosemite heading east towards Vegas using the Tioga pass. When you come out of Yosemite the road just gets higher, higher and higher before it starts going down again. We reached something like 3,400m above sea level (about 11,000 feet) before going downhill and you need to make sure you leave yourself enough time to get down before dark as it gets very dark very quickly, especially if cloudy as you go above the clouds before heading down through them.
On the way down our brakes failed and, in a nutshell, we almost died. We were left stranded halfway down in pitch black darkness and had no option but to proceed down as we couldn't get any phone signal so couldn't call for help. We had to let the brakes cool a bit before setting off and had to use what was left of the brakes but mainly by using the gears to limit speed. It didn't help having endless other drivers behind us hooting us as we were going so slow - they wanted to get down too! It was horrendous and scared the life out of us. It had been a great day but was spoilt by the ending.
The trick is to use your gears to restrict speed and use your brakes as little as possible and when you do, pump them to keep the temps down. I was actually told this in the morning when I stopped at a store heading up to Yosemite but basically forgot what the woman told me until the brakes failed! The car (Grand Caravan (Voyager)) only had, I think, 1,200 miles on the clock. Probably the weight of the car/van didn't help and contributed to the brakes failing.
This kind of road trip is truly amazing, but people should be aware that the Yosemite sector can be daunting due to the high mountain roads. We went in early October and there was no snow, although when we finally got down the other side we stayed at a fantastic small town called Massive Lakes - a kind of Austrian looking town which is in fact a skiing attraction in winter. That night it did start to snow and no doubt the roads we'd been on earlier up in Yosemite would have been treacherous.
To be honest, going in March is too risky as the roads may be closed, or may not but there is a risk that it could snow whilst you're up there. I'd recommend going in late April to late September.
But don't let any of this put you off!!
Worth emailing the hotels to check the booking. Other than that really good deal
We did a similar trip, minus Vegas, last month. Palm Springs was nice - the aerial tramway in particular. Very thin air up there! From there we went up to Death Valley. We did plan to go via the Mojave, but it was a bit too far.
Tioga Pass was closed, so we snaked from Death Valley to Yosemite on the Western side. Long way, but still interesting. I wouldn't like to drive some of those roads in the snow, mind. Yosemite is simply beautiful. Jaw-dropping.
We stayed at Furnace Creek in DV, it was about £100 per night. Yosemite View Lodge, just outside the park, was about £80 iirc. Then we blew the budget at The Clement Intercontinental at Monterey :smiley:
We went from -4c and thick snow in the am at Yosemite to 28c and sun at Monterey in the pm. Ace memories. It was our third time in CA, and we still feel like we want to go back to see more.
Furkot also allows you to edit and update the route as you go and allows you to keep an eye on your end date (assuming you've got fixed dates).