I agree, but they are selling it as a gaming laptop, which i guess it can be but either you'll be playing at low fps at 4k or it'll look blurry at anything lower than native resolution.
markob53
30 Nov 15#73
950m and 4k? Good luck.
metalheadkicks to markob53
30 Nov 15#74
For multimedia, MS Office and browsing the web its brilliant. Games can be played at HD res given the size of screen.
metalheadkicks
30 Nov 15#72
That is a PSPTUE.
None of the PSPTSE have GTX 950
minicale
30 Nov 15#71
This is not going to game at 4k, a 950m is just not strong enough you would have to play games at 1080p and even then I think you would struggle with most games with good graphics
Given my budget I am really tempted to go for this however I think there is some error in the listing as there is no such specification combination as per- Toshiba website All MPN - PSPTSE are supposed to have nVidia GeForce 930 with 2GB.
Either the MPN is wrong or GeForce 950 4GB is wrong, both cannot be true.
messiah216
29 Nov 15#68
Do not buy a toshiba laptop you will regret it and they have none existent customer service and are the least helpful people on the planet
jebby
29 Nov 15#67
true, but it does say, quote " It’s let down by a reflective screen and lousy battery life. Despite underwhelming benchmark results it should be speedy enough for general duties." which suggests that it will be poor for games
Yup much better and worth spending extra on, although like with most laptops you will be gaming on 1080p rather than the native 4k resolution.
ktown to paulsssss
29 Nov 15#66
Great price!
paulsssss
29 Nov 151#65
it's for a Christmas present so worried about the manufacturing time.
neoboy
29 Nov 15#64
£749 from Dell direct if you don't mind 1080p screen, no idea if there are any codes floating around for Dell at the moment.
paulsssss
29 Nov 15#63
I am really tempted think it is £850 on Dell and a long wait if I could find a PayPal or ebay code it would push me into it.
RedRain
28 Nov 15#34
4k gaming maybe at 10fps
conscience to RedRain
29 Nov 15#60
Doubt it'd be anywhere near that fast lol!
The best single graphics card until recently was the AMD R9 290X which costs approx £300 and that would only get approx. 30 FPS at 4K - sometimes way less! To aim for 60 FPS with a single top of the range graphics card it's been widely recommended to get the R9 290X2 which costs even more. With any lesser card you'd need two or more top of the range graphics cards EG even with nvidia's TITAN you'd need TWO graphics cards to get at least 60 FPS from 4K gaming!
conscience
29 Nov 15#59
It may do the job but it's not ideally suited. Neither are very powerful comparatively speaking.
The i5 and i7 are both "U" models = Ultra low voltage = slowed right down on purpose in order to use less electricity. It may say "i7" but it only has 2 cores/4 threads running at 2GHz - not what you might expect from an i7! Software like Photoshop is multi-threaded and would be able to take advantage of more cores to speed it up. IMO the best bang for the buck for you is probably an AMD A10 APU running 4 cores (the "FX"-branded ones are fastest and have better graphics), or if you do get Intel then avoid the low power stuff like these.
aaqeel
29 Nov 15#58
Thanks. I have noticed it earlier but It was to late, I have already placed an order on ebay. I have sent a messsage to seller let see if he will able to give me any refund on price match.
gnowak84
29 Nov 15#57
Probably half of it spent on a desktop pc.
aahmesda
29 Nov 15#56
Hi can you give me the link please. I can't seem to find it
DealHunter786
29 Nov 15#55
The harmon kardon sound great
Picard123
28 Nov 15#54
How can they possibly call a U processor and a 950m, a gaming machine?? Just ridiculous.
aaqeel
28 Nov 15#52
Thanks. ordered one but the 12GB RAM version in £599.99.
DealHunter786 to aaqeel
28 Nov 151#53
It's £589 if you buy from laptop outlets main website
samwhitts
28 Nov 15#51
Adobe Premiere Pro, Adobe After Effects and Photoshop? good for any of that sort of stuff?
jimbobaggins
28 Nov 15#39
I always bought Toshiba laptops from around 1995 to 2007. They were the best apart from IBM. Since then I have had two or three that were absolutely garbage. Same with tv's unfortunately.
Even if the specs are good, I suspect the build quality and longevity will be awful, so I would avoid it personally. Maybe they have improved, but I doubt it.
hardstylemw to jimbobaggins
28 Nov 15#50
Remember Fujitsu? Also Viao's used to be up there!
DealHunter786
28 Nov 15#47
Which other laptops have ac wifi and great sound for movies and songs
neoboy to DealHunter786
28 Nov 15#49
You can spec a nice 15.6" Optimus VII from PC Specialist for just under £700 with a Skylake quad core, pick AC wifi and comes with Onkyo speakers (almost as good as Sony :wink:) not to mention GTX 960M. Will have a more reasonable 1080p screen with a rather nice IPS panel and "only" 8GB RAM (at sub £700 price) but you can always upgrade that later.
Amzoa
28 Nov 15#48
Gaming laptop: i5 processor. ok
DealHunter786
28 Nov 15#46
Not much 4K movies out there so cold from me it's a bit ahead of its time
Lukedotv
28 Nov 15#45
heat for 4gb of vram!
1nstant
28 Nov 15#19
This is the typical price you would be paying for this laptop. Would you pay more for the laptop? This has a 5200U and a 950M. It would be a deal if it was around 500.
eddie mac to 1nstant
28 Nov 15#20
Well the article above re:gaming laptops ranks it as No3 and good value at £800 and that model has only 12gb memory, the machine advertised has 16gb. So in reality this is a steal.
Lukedotv to 1nstant
28 Nov 15#44
the 4k screen makes it cooler.
dannyiddo
28 Nov 15#42
So an AMD quad core would be better than an intel i7 u processor?
huangxq2 to dannyiddo
28 Nov 15#43
Most likely not.
Although i7 U version is only two cores physical.
But AMD 4 cores on laptop normally is A8 and A10, A10 is on par with the new i3 U version, so weaker than new i7 U version.
huangxq2
28 Nov 15#41
I am not sure about it is a gaming laptop.
Is i5 U version really sufficient for gaming today? Which games do they meant?
A i7 HQ version are more suitable.
If you really need 4k, try the one below for £100 more with 15.6 4k screen, i7-4710HQ, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSHD, GeForce GTX860M 4GB GDDR5. Your text here
ktown
28 Nov 15#40
You ideally want an HQ processor, U processors are not very good....
1nstant
28 Nov 15#38
This has Alienware 13 as 2nd. Up to you mate.
fishmaster
28 Nov 15#37
Toshiba + 4K + Gaming, that is a sentence that will never ever happen in reality.
It's not a bad price but while this will handle some games well, for purposes of modern gaming I would rate this more a multimedia laptop. I definitely wouldn't want to see it handle any games in 4k as I don't believe that would be a smooth experience outside more basic games.
The CPU is actually quite weak and it's a low voltage processor designed towards battery life even by laptop standards as well as GPU which sits at lower mid-range level. While it packs plenty of RAM, it will be bottlenecked in other areas which cannot be upgraded. For a more future proofing solution I'd look for something with a better CPU and GPU options, PC Specialist do a great value 15" inch model with Skylake and 960M for not that much more.
My god they put this 5200U processor into any laptop, somebody has been reading on henry ford at intel and just pushes this thing so hard everywhere. Wish the -H processors were more popular.
I am not sure if this is a cheap deal, but the graphics card does have some kick
adamspencer95
28 Nov 15#30
950m for 4k? lol
coerce86
28 Nov 15#29
3.03% cashback through TCB too :smiley:
Seems pretty decent for the price
shak
28 Nov 15#28
4k screen that small will be useless for 4k gaming. Most games UI doesn't scale well at all over around 1440p so even with squinting you're passing the limits of human vision at normal distance.
The games themselves will look spectacular though.
I'd go for 8 minimum if you want it to playing games and what not
mash8
28 Nov 15#3
I don't know much about gaming laptops but looking for one for my son......any expert opinions on this deal? I've looked at deals with an i7 processor so is the performance of the the i5 much worse or not? Any help appreciated.
pet2000 to mash8
28 Nov 151#16
You should look at Quad "Q" processors rather than a low voltage "U" processor. The "U" cpus are used in business laptops where long battery life is more important than speed. The cpu used in this laptop is the wrong type.
SmashingK to mash8
28 Nov 15#25
it has 2 cores with 4 threads. Not all i7s are quad core either so difficult to say unless you know the specifics of the i7 to compare.
I'd personally go with quad cores for games these days as multithreading isn't something all games make use of.
It's a good laptop for the price. Just don't expect it to play all the latest games beyond medium settings.
aaqeel
28 Nov 15#24
Is this Toshiba laptop will be any good for office and home use for development work?
Only let down by the slow "U" cpu. It's a weird component combination.
xela333
28 Nov 151#10
It looks a great buy as long as you don't expect to run games at the native resolution. It would even stifle at 1080p with new games at that resolution
eddie mac to xela333
28 Nov 151#12
What kind of money are you talking these days for a machine that will run most games at their native resolution?
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Toshiba P50t-C 15.6" 4k Gaming Laptop
NVIDIA GeForce GTX™ 950M 4GB Dedicated Graphics
Touchscreen
Intel Core i5-5200U 16GB RAM, 1TB+8GB SSHD Blu-ray
Built-in Harman Kardon stereo speakers
3D Bluetooth 4.0 + LE
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http://www.ebuyer.com/726289-pc-specialist-optimus-vii-v15-960-gaming-laptop-pcs-l860515
None of the PSPTSE have GTX 950
Either the MPN is wrong or GeForce 950 4GB is wrong, both cannot be true.
Dell Inspiron 15 7559 Laptop 3.5ghz 8GB,1TB, 4K UHD,4GB GTX 960M, Win 10
15.6 inch 4K Ultra HD 3840 x 2160,4 GB DDR5 GeForce GTX
£789.99
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dell-Inspiron-15-7559-Laptop-3-5ghz-8GB-1TB-4K-UHD-4GB-GTX-960M-Win-10-/301779577166?nav=SEARCH
The best single graphics card until recently was the AMD R9 290X which costs approx £300 and that would only get approx. 30 FPS at 4K - sometimes way less! To aim for 60 FPS with a single top of the range graphics card it's been widely recommended to get the R9 290X2 which costs even more. With any lesser card you'd need two or more top of the range graphics cards EG even with nvidia's TITAN you'd need TWO graphics cards to get at least 60 FPS from 4K gaming!
It may do the job but it's not ideally suited. Neither are very powerful comparatively speaking.
The i5 and i7 are both "U" models = Ultra low voltage = slowed right down on purpose in order to use less electricity. It may say "i7" but it only has 2 cores/4 threads running at 2GHz - not what you might expect from an i7! Software like Photoshop is multi-threaded and would be able to take advantage of more cores to speed it up. IMO the best bang for the buck for you is probably an AMD A10 APU running 4 cores (the "FX"-branded ones are fastest and have better graphics), or if you do get Intel then avoid the low power stuff like these.
Even if the specs are good, I suspect the build quality and longevity will be awful, so I would avoid it personally. Maybe they have improved, but I doubt it.
Although i7 U version is only two cores physical.
But AMD 4 cores on laptop normally is A8 and A10, A10 is on par with the new i3 U version, so weaker than new i7 U version.
Is i5 U version really sufficient for gaming today? Which games do they meant?
A i7 HQ version are more suitable.
If you really need 4k, try the one below for £100 more with 15.6 4k screen, i7-4710HQ, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSHD, GeForce GTX860M 4GB GDDR5.
Your text here
Best deal esp. If you can get the £100 cashback.
Most of the negatives centre around bottlenecking for gaming etc. But would this be ideal for me? Just want something speedy.
My only worry is that it is only an i5 processor, when I have found other laptops with an i7 and 8gb Ram... like this one..
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-15-6-Inch-Notebook-i7-5550U-Bluetooth/dp/B012VMW3LI/ref=sr_1_4?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1448737250&sr=1-4&keywords=lenovo+i7
Is this Toshiba worth the extra?!!
better bang for buck at PC specialist.
The CPU is actually quite weak and it's a low voltage processor designed towards battery life even by laptop standards as well as GPU which sits at lower mid-range level. While it packs plenty of RAM, it will be bottlenecked in other areas which cannot be upgraded. For a more future proofing solution I'd look for something with a better CPU and GPU options, PC Specialist do a great value 15" inch model with Skylake and 960M for not that much more.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-5200U+%40+2.20GHz
My god they put this 5200U processor into any laptop, somebody has been reading on henry ford at intel and just pushes this thing so hard everywhere. Wish the -H processors were more popular.
I am not sure if this is a cheap deal, but the graphics card does have some kick
Seems pretty decent for the price
The games themselves will look spectacular though.
I'd personally go with quad cores for games these days as multithreading isn't something all games make use of.
It's a good laptop for the price. Just don't expect it to play all the latest games beyond medium settings.
This has good advice and prices
Looks like its this model