Chrome OS
Intel® Celeron® Processor N2840
Memory: 2 GB
Storage: 16 GB eMMC
Up to 11.5 hours battery life
HD, but not full HD.
With free 100GB Google Drive account upgrade
Very highly rated by professional reviewers and purchasers of product. See reviews at http://www.trustedreviews.com/toshiba-chromebook-2-review
Just over 1 per cent extra off through Topcashback. www.topcashback/pcworld
Link to purhcasing it through Currys: http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/toshiba-cb30-b-103-13-3-chromebook-2-silver-10114863-pdt.html?gclid=CJbFlouh1skCFSQYwwodKCgK8g&srcid=198&cmpid=ppc~gg~~~Exact&mctag=gg_goog_7904&s_kwcid=AL!3391!3!75233807659!!!g!110894324420!&ef_id=VlmScgAAAJh8HD0g:20151212115201:s
Link to purchasing through John Lewis, with free two year guarantee: http://www.johnlewis.com/toshiba-cb30-b-103-chromebook-intel-celeron-2gb-ram-16gb-ssd-13-3-silver/p1841434?sku=234212625&kpid=234212625&s_kenid=2379bfc6-dab4-4849-b389-a2847a012122&s_kwcid=402x368814&tmad=c&tmcampid=73
PC World/Currys:
Thanks to nnj10: You can also use O2 priority to knock off another £10,j ust need to find an item costing 1p to qualify though.
Anyone wanting to purchase this only and also wanting to use O2 priority moments, just ask for a carrier bag. I just purchased this, the carrier bag was 8p and the £10 was discounted no problem. £140.07 so very pleased.
Zoso121
12 Dec 155#9
I've got a Toshiba Chromebook and its great. But you'd be advised to get one with 4gb ram. 2gb will struggle with multiple applications.
Sunni
12 Dec 154#19
Toshiba should number their revisions better. Lots of versions now all with similar names. AFAIK, it goes
-Toshiba Chromebook
-Toshiba Chromebook 2 (2014) - 2gb + non full-HD screen
-Toshiba Chromebook 2 (2014) - 4gb + Full HD screen
I still have the original one, which I find to be excellent.
All comments (78)
nnj10
12 Dec 151#1
Can also use O2 priority to knock off another £10,just need to find an item costing 1p to qualify though.
leiclad to nnj10
12 Dec 15#2
Thanks for the tip! Any links at all to this?
beaniebowen
12 Dec 15#3
Is this a good Chromebook and what's the difference between this and laptop?
leiclad to beaniebowen
12 Dec 151#4
According to reviews, it is meant to be the best sub-£200 Chromebook out there. The difference is that Chromebooks use the Google operating system, and are mainly used for surfing the web- the applications and your files tend to be saved into a cloud. Laptops generally use a Windows operating system- be warned sub £200 laptops generally are poorly built with cheap parts used.
barkinglama to beaniebowen
12 Dec 15#21
Don't think of it as a laptop more a more user friendly tablet
Afraid not, no chromebooks do as far as I'm aware
leiclad
12 Dec 15#7
Hi jonicholls as is common with other Chromebooks, this does not have an optical drive.
jennyscott88
12 Dec 151#8
Chromebooks are amazing pieces of kit!! if all you do is surf the net,back up photos,bank,emails etc etc Chromebooks are the fastest and easiest way to do so!! most people only require a chromebook but think they need a massive desktop!
Zoso121
12 Dec 155#9
I've got a Toshiba Chromebook and its great. But you'd be advised to get one with 4gb ram. 2gb will struggle with multiple applications.
streetsahead
12 Dec 15#10
Zoso touched on this above, I'm really keen on getting a chromecast for WordPress development, as it's primarily done online, would 2gb be sufficient for say, 3 chrome tabs and Google music and notepad++?
mikerr
12 Dec 152#11
Resolution 1366 x 768
(benjamin)
bentrewern
12 Dec 151#12
The 4gb ram version looks worth the extra money. It has a full HD screen vs the 1366x768 on this one. It's the version most of the reviews are done with.
imiskeen
12 Dec 151#13
Just FYI. These are not the refreshed Toshiba chromebook 2's with Intel cpu and back-lit keyboard. A great price however and a hot deal, but I'm going to wait for the refreshed version. (Although rumour has it that the UK might not get it?) :disappointed:
snack_attack
12 Dec 15#14
Hope someone will be able to answer my question...about to buy one of these but just want to check....
I understand switching between accounts is very easy on chrome, but will the mrs and myself be able to access our own email, youtube, banking accounts etc. easily? What I mean is that will it save our individual website bookmarks, usernames, passwords etc for each individual user? My info/settings won't be accessible on her account and vice versa? Hope that makes sense!!
you can have multiple accounts. I'm using the tosh cbook2 HD version but only have one account attached to it. As long as you have sync active then bookmarks etc will update automatically from other devices using Google chrome
u0421793 to snack_attack
12 Dec 15#17
That’s a very interesting point, and is one of the most significant disadvantages of some of the other devices available today, such as the iPad. This is something that needs addressing quite rapidly, as with Apple TV and Android TV taking hold, a television is hardly a single-user device. Surely we’re not seriously expected to each get a separate telly, tablet, or in this case, laptop? What next? Personal fridges, irons and light switches, as the Internet of Things pervades our future?
andyharris524 to snack_attack
12 Dec 15#27
Will be fine, i have this one and have 2 profiles on it, my personal one and one that i use for work, can log in and out between the two and all my book marks are saved on the relevant profile. paid £200 for mine, sometimes if you have too many tabs open it slows down so if you can afford it would recommend the 4gb one. The screen is fine but if you wanted to watch films a lot go for the HD one
cymru1978 to snack_attack
12 Dec 15#33
yes to all the above. There are 3 accounts on our household chrome book.
spit2k1 to snack_attack
13 Dec 15#54
yes it completely separates each user, even down to encrypting your settings and favourite links, passwords etc
smallclone to snack_attack
13 Dec 15#55
Yes. We have 3 different accounts on our Chromebook. Plus, there is a "guest" account feature, in case someone else needs to use it.
If you have a Gmail account, you can use the login details for that to login. It's that simple.
Probably the best computer I've ever owned. My Apple Power Mac is now just gathering dust.
Gamer_U
12 Dec 15#15
Toshbia? Is this a Toshiba knockoff? :man:
derrajk
12 Dec 15#18
I bought the 4GB version with the full HD display a few months back and it's great. Currently that one costs £220 on John Lewis and I'd highly recommend buying it over the 2GB. Chromebooks are popular for all age groups from me (20) to people in their 60s.
Sunni
12 Dec 154#19
Toshiba should number their revisions better. Lots of versions now all with similar names. AFAIK, it goes
-Toshiba Chromebook
-Toshiba Chromebook 2 (2014) - 2gb + non full-HD screen
-Toshiba Chromebook 2 (2014) - 4gb + Full HD screen
I still have the original one, which I find to be excellent.
thethinwhiteduke
12 Dec 15#22
Quite. It's unnecessarily confusing.
snack_attack
12 Dec 15#23
Hi thanks for the link and information. I'd noticed that whilst doing research on the chrome os. What I'd like to know is slightly different...I'll use an example.
At the moment, we've got 2 different users on our laptop, myself and the mrs. When I log in to my hotmail account via my web browser, my username and password are already stored/displayed and I just click on 'log in'. If I switch user on our laptop, my mrs's info. comes up before logging in to her hotmail account. The same can be said for online banking, amazon, youtube accounts etc.
What I'd like to know is would the same happen on the chromebook when we switch between chromebook users? thanks.
snack_attack
12 Dec 15#24
and sorry if it seems like a silly question, i think the same applies when switching accounts on a chromebook, just need reassurance i guess.
happymanuk
12 Dec 15#25
Can the O2 priority code be used online, or is it instore only ?
syedkhaled89 to happymanuk
13 Dec 15#49
instore just buy a 5p bag to qualify
chriscousins
12 Dec 151#26
chromebook is still my choice at home. can't be arsed messing around waiting for Windows when I need to check emails, or browse.
It's the future
Picard123 to chriscousins
14 Dec 151#59
Best thing about Chromebooks is how fast and snappy they are for basic day to day stuff.
If I want to browse the web or check some traffic reports, I flip open the lid, it's instantly on and I'm there within 5 seconds.
On Windows, I have to wait for the machine to do a long boot up, and load all sorts of unnecessary crud into memory. 2 minutes before I'm there. Same story when I'm turning it off - some laborious Windows shutdown routine.
Even with a 4th gen i5 / 8gb ram on my Windows laptop, Chrome is faster and snappier on the Chromebook (4th gen Celeron, 2gb ram).
grimboj2
12 Dec 151#28
It's a fair price but Google apps are so buggy and I like watching films on iTunes so not for everyone
fishmaster
12 Dec 15#29
Chromebooks - No Skype, No iTunes. I get this all the time, people buy these and moan. Awesome machines for web browsing and not getting loads of malware though.
cymru1978 to fishmaster
12 Dec 15#34
actually, there is a way to use Skype by using the browser
Interloper
12 Dec 15#30
Heat from me. For a few Chrome tabs, using Google Docs (offline as well!) etc and watching Netflix, Chromecasting and so on this is great.
This Toshiba has excellent battery life, great build quality and is very light. The keyboard and trackpad are also superb, far better than any Windows laptops in this price range (or much more, to be honest).
The Full HD version has more RAM and a much better screen for £70 extra, but the improved screen comes at a cost - Chrome OS isn't well optimised for high DPI displays and you end up with tiny icons. It's not a deal breaker as the screen is far better (as good as any decent IPS panel and much better than the Macbook Air's TN panel) but bear the UI limitations in mind.
Also, for those of you who use Sky Go or NOW TV - you cannot use these on Chromebooks as Sky have disabled them in the Chrome browser (grrr).
Interloper
12 Dec 15#31
You can have multiple users and only their browser settings, bookmarks, plugins, apps, shortcuts, passwords etc appear under that profile.
In short, yes, things are kept completely separate.
These machines are surprisingly versatile. You can even run some Android apps (using Arc Welder in the Chrome Store) and dual-boot these with Linux...
My wife even uses the Remote Desktop app on her HP Chromebook to connect to her Windows desktop PC. She can then use Photoshop on the Chromebook screen. Works flawlessly.
Baldieman64
12 Dec 15#32
OK for surfing the web - but a tablet is smaller, lighter , often cheaper and easier to use on the go.
Where these things really fall on their face though is the lack of on-board memory. Cloud services are useless if you are travelling and have a dodgy (or no) internet connection - you can't even watch a film on a wet evening in your room.
Give me a Windows laptop any day of the week. Even a modest one wil have plenty of room for music and movies and you can actually do stuff with them.
Interloper
12 Dec 15#35
Tablets don't have built-in, full-size keyboards. Most also don't have trackpads. It's all about what you need to use it for.
Chromebooks have USB 3.0 ports and SD card slots - load one or two cards or thumb drives (or even a portable HDD) up with movies and/or music for your flight/hotel. The built-in player works offline and plays pretty much anything. You don't need masses of on-board memory as you aren't using a huge OS and bloated software.
Good luck finding a Windows laptop with 9-10 hours battery life that can "do stuff" beyond the abilities of this Chromebook for under £150. The best bet would be a tablet/keyboard combo like the Linx 1010B with a smaller screen and the same performance/storage restrictions you describe.
RiverDragon8
12 Dec 15#36
It's a shame you can only sideload apps otherwise would be better than a tablet.
mackashworth
12 Dec 15#37
Fantastic device.
nickmorc
12 Dec 15#38
Excellent devices, easy to use and fast. Does what most people need to do, but sadly most dont understand the concept.
fishmaster
12 Dec 15#39
The camera doesn't work with web skype, and people want the camera to work, and they also want iTunes. It essentially means they didn't research the product before buying. Chromebooks are good for web browsing, that's their forte.
nickmorc
12 Dec 15#40
Facebook Messenger works well with camera, which I now use instead of skype.
Never used itunes on a PC. Not sure why we would need to. The other half is into Apple and has the phone, the watch, ipad and ipad pro and says they do not need to be connected to a PC.
ScarboroughPeel
12 Dec 156#41
Anyone wanting to purchase this only and also wanting to use O2 priority moments, just ask for a carrier bag. I just purchased this, the carrier bag was 8p and the £10 was discounted no problem. £140.07 so very pleased.
happymanuk to ScarboroughPeel
12 Dec 15#42
Perfect way of reaching the required price.
Hgfdbnjkm
12 Dec 15#43
Brought this. Didn't realise about carrier bag. Ended up buying another £10 item for the same of additional 1p spending too redeem o2 priority app.
alanbraggins
12 Dec 15#44
You can use an external USB CD drive though.
(If you frequently need a drive, a laptop with one built in will be better, but for occasional use, it works, at least when the Chromebook has its mains adapter/charger plugged in. I had to use a little USB extension cord on mine, because it uses two ports, and the Chromebook I have has them on the two sides, not next to each other - I think this one is the same.)
Garstonk
12 Dec 15#45
Performance isn't particularly good, battery life is though.
leiclad to Garstonk
14 Dec 15#61
Not according to numerous reviews! This is the highest rated Chromebook out there!
salibaba
12 Dec 15#46
As far as I know the Chrome OS does not support optical drives. At least not for playback of things like DVDs. I'm sure I recall asking a google rep in a shop about it. The OS does not have the driver software. I don't use chromebooks on a daily basis so someone else chime in and correct me if I'm mistaken.
formsm2000comp
12 Dec 15#47
Copy+Paste this from another post i made for someone else looking for basic computing. The link below might help you decide.
Was looking at a laptop for my dad. All he does it web browsing and emails.
After reading the comments on that deal, the previous 3 or 4 on here then an hour of youtube videos they look the best price for basic computing. Noted that Skype does not work on these with video and audio, only text unless you are willing to mess about getting it working.
Look at this video for the basics of a Chromebook and decide if its enough for your needs.Chromebook For Beginners
formsm2000comp
12 Dec 15#48
Note to OP.
Also available on Amazon for the same price. I'm going to go for John Lewis as they offer two year guarantee. Amazon
leiclad to formsm2000comp
14 Dec 15#62
Thanks will add that into the post description.
mwalke36
13 Dec 15#50
Can you upgrade this with extra ram? I am wondering if I should get the HD version that also comes with an extra 2gb of ram and obviously the HD display for an extra £70?
I think £70 is alot more for HD Screen and extra RAM, but what do you want to use the Chromebook for??
davewave
13 Dec 15#51
I have had one a while and love it
djdope
13 Dec 15#52
I have had a number of chromebooks, and I recommend one with 4gb ram
u0421793
13 Dec 15#53
Are these touchscreen, and should chromebooks ideally be touchscreen, or are they fine without?
thebiggishman
13 Dec 15#56
I got this for my parents but I can't tell if it's the Chromebook 2 or the prev model, can anyone help me to tell the difference
apears
13 Dec 15#57
Just in case it's important to anyone: I don't think you can download programmes from BBC iPlayer onto a chromebook. If I'm wrong I'd be happy to be corrected as it's the only thing holding me back from this deal.
leiclad to apears
14 Dec 15#60
Anyone know the answer to this one?
Picard123
14 Dec 15#58
LOL. Have you not heard of a 128gb flash drive? The nano sized USB 3.0 Sandisk Cruzer Fit is less than £25.
As for "dodgy or no internet" connections, if you can get a mobile phone signal, you can get an internet connection. I doubt that there are many people who live in areas where there aren't any mobile phone signals.
Picard123
14 Dec 15#64
Not possible natively as downloads are only available by installing iPlayer Downloads, which is Windows/Mac only. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/install
It is possible to use a 3rd party workaround to download the video from iPlayer on a Windows machine, strip it of its DRM and convert it into a suitable format for a Chromebook but it's not worth the hassle IMO. One of the weakest aspects of ChromeOS is the sketchy codec support. Something like H265 Player from Chrome Store does help but it's a massive CPU resource hog. I love Chromebooks - I think they're great for day to day stuff - but if you do any sort of video encoding/decoding work, you're better off with a Windows machine.
Obviously, you can still watch videos direct through iPlayer on a Chromebook though.
One of the issues facing ChromeOS is Google's commercial attitude towards it. If Google put development resources into it, it could be a great OS but they're stopping it from greatness because they want to push Android everywhere. That's a big mistake IMO as Android simply isn't an OS for a desktop power user. Android on the Pixel C is pretty comical for instance.
gwapenut
14 Dec 151#65
No easy fixes for illuminating the keyboard? Don't like the clip on lights, not sure there are any other options if illumination isn't built in. Am not as young-eyed as I once was!
Certainly doesn't impact on functionality. Was wondering if anyone else has this problem on their new Chromebook?
Thanks to those who answered to my last query.
RAMRaider1
15 Dec 15#70
Hi mwalke36
Assuming that you’re a U.K. based consumer, I’d advise you to contact your nearest branch of John Lewis and ask the shop floor of their computer department if they have both of these Toshiba Chromebook 2’s on display in-store. You could then view them side-by-side in order to make a valid assessment.
There are loads of great reviews on-line - try this one for instance:
Don’t take this as absolute gospel, but to the best of my knowledge I believe it’s not possible to add extra RAM to either the CB30-B-103 or CB30-B-104 Chromebook 2, so I’d tend to dispense with that particular notion if I were you.
When going on location or holiday, I tend to take quite a lot of photographs using my identical pair of DSLR camera bodies, each one attached to a different lens. Whilst I already own an excellent but fairly hefty 2014 Windows 8.1 Toshiba Satellite 17.3” laptop, the thought occurred to me that I might be able to preview the shots I take on a lighter tablet of some description, equipped with a full-size SD card slot and a decent HD screen.
The long and the short of the matter was that ridiculously I couldn’t find a single tablet equipped with a full-size SD slot (only MicroSD ones !), which is where Toshiba’s CB30-B-104 remarkable Chromebook 2 came to the rescue, as it has the SD slot I so desperately needed.
Also the invaluable 'instant-on' facility on this Chromebook means that there is absolutely no 'hanging around' for minutes on end (patiently twiddling one’s thumbs !) whilst waiting for a typical older Windows laptop to boot-up. Combine that with a lengthy 9 to 10 hour battery life and this laptop should last most of the day, depending upon what you might be doing on it !
It’s becoming increasingly rare nowadays to find something that greatly exceeds one’s expectations, but in my experience, Toshiba’s CB30-B-104 punches well above it's weight in so many ways that it’s difficult to actually know where to begin.
Depending upon what you wish to achieve with one of these machines, it is my considered opinion that the stingy 2GB’s of DDR3 RAM supplied with the CB30-B-103 is borderline sufficient for smoothly viewing Youtube clips or movies, although others may naturally disagree !
Re your 2nd query:
“I am wondering if I should get the HD version that also comes with an extra 2GB of RAM and obviously the HD display for an extra £70” ?
Well evidently the main visual interaction between any user and a computer is going to be it’s screen, the quality of which is paramount. Having seen the cheaper CB30-B-103 Chromebook 2, it’s 'sub-par' 1366 x 768p resolution and non CSV LED backlit display is plainly not up to scratch. Imagine for one moment being sat in front of a grainy washed out display all day long….is that something you’d really fancy ? Nope, I thought not !
In fact I can virtually guarantee that were you misguided enough to try saving a few quid by purchasing the cheaper CB30-B-103 version, you’d repeatedly kick yourself EVERY SINGLE TIME you opened up the laptop ! So my answer to your second question is unequivocally YES !......and trust me, you’ll have no regrets whatsoever !
At the end of the day, the trivial price differential between Toshiba’s CB30-B-103 Chromebook 2 and their CB30-B-104 Chromebook 2 literally pales into insignificance the very second you first clap your eyes on it’s gorgeous vivid pin-sharp 1920 x 1080p FHD IPS (In Plane Switching) display and for me it was love at first sight.
The additional 2GB of RAM (total 4GB) always wins out every time over the B-103 and means that you can keep as many ‘tabs’ open on the web as you like (within reason !). In a ‘no-holds-barred’ contest, the B-104 comprehensively trounces it’s lesser sibling by some considerable margin.
Incidentally, thus far I've not heard of a Toshiba Chromebook 2 with a backlit keyboard, but imho adding that feature would only make it even more desirable to potential purchasers…..maybe a new Chromebook 3 is hiding around the corner for 2016 ? You'll have to wait and see !
Would I buy the same computer again ? Definitely without a shadow of a doubt….what’s not to like…..simply go for it !
mikerj
16 Dec 15#71
I'm sure there are quite a few people with poor or no mobile reception, even in cities. Also don't think this has any 3G/4G support, so mobile signal is not much use unless you buy a wifi hotspot or USB dongle (or if you phone can be used). However, as you say it's cheap and easy to add storage, so it's not really an issue.
russwheeler43
16 Dec 15#72
I know this might sound daft but what can a chromebook be used for if there is no internet access ?
russwheeler43
16 Dec 15#73
Sorry just read the post above !
1jim
16 Dec 15#74
would a chromebook be suitable for a child starting secondary school, thinking of school work, are the google docs,sheets and PowerPoint equivalent really on a par with microsoft versions and if uploading in Google docs to school can the document be saved as a word document and will it reliably keep its formatting?
RAMRaider1
17 Dec 151#75
Hi 1jim
You might find some answers to your question via the links below:
That lot should keep you pretty busy for quite some time.....happy reading !
regards
Richard
bbbking
18 Dec 15#76
hot from me and john lewis for the 2 year guarantee:p
bbbking
18 Dec 15#77
got mine today ordered yesterday from j lewis picked up from waitrose,only negative so far is for me is there is no delete button you have to use alt+backspace, probably get used to it:D
Opening post
Chrome OS
Intel® Celeron® Processor N2840
Memory: 2 GB
Storage: 16 GB eMMC
Up to 11.5 hours battery life
HD, but not full HD.
With free 100GB Google Drive account upgrade
Very highly rated by professional reviewers and purchasers of product. See reviews at http://www.trustedreviews.com/toshiba-chromebook-2-review
Just over 1 per cent extra off through Topcashback. www.topcashback/pcworld
Link to purhcasing it through Currys: http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/toshiba-cb30-b-103-13-3-chromebook-2-silver-10114863-pdt.html?gclid=CJbFlouh1skCFSQYwwodKCgK8g&srcid=198&cmpid=ppc~gg~~~Exact&mctag=gg_goog_7904&s_kwcid=AL!3391!3!75233807659!!!g!110894324420!&ef_id=VlmScgAAAJh8HD0g:20151212115201:s
Topcashback link: www.topcashback.co.uk/currys/
Link to purchasing through John Lewis, with free two year guarantee: http://www.johnlewis.com/toshiba-cb30-b-103-chromebook-intel-celeron-2gb-ram-16gb-ssd-13-3-silver/p1841434?sku=234212625&kpid=234212625&s_kenid=2379bfc6-dab4-4849-b389-a2847a012122&s_kwcid=402x368814&tmad=c&tmcampid=73
PC World/Currys:
Thanks to nnj10: You can also use O2 priority to knock off another £10,j ust need to find an item costing 1p to qualify though.
Link to O2 priority moments: https://priority.o2.co.uk/offers/565ef4b9e4b02ec7e2e4f065/pc-world-save-%C2%A310-when-you-spend-%C2%A3150-or-more-in-store
Link to purchasing it for £149 from Amazon:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00RK7LFHS/?tag=ho01f-21
Top comments
-Toshiba Chromebook
-Toshiba Chromebook 2 (2014) - 2gb + non full-HD screen
-Toshiba Chromebook 2 (2014) - 4gb + Full HD screen
-Toshiba Chromebook 2 (2015) - Celeron processor + backlit keyboard (4gb, skullcandy speakers)
-Toshiba Chromebook 2 (2015) - i3 processor + backlit keyboard (4gb, skullcandy speakers)
I still have the original one, which I find to be excellent.
All comments (78)
Afraid not, no chromebooks do as far as I'm aware
(benjamin)
I understand switching between accounts is very easy on chrome, but will the mrs and myself be able to access our own email, youtube, banking accounts etc. easily? What I mean is that will it save our individual website bookmarks, usernames, passwords etc for each individual user? My info/settings won't be accessible on her account and vice versa? Hope that makes sense!!
you can have multiple accounts. I'm using the tosh cbook2 HD version but only have one account attached to it. As long as you have sync active then bookmarks etc will update automatically from other devices using Google chrome
If you have a Gmail account, you can use the login details for that to login. It's that simple.
Probably the best computer I've ever owned. My Apple Power Mac is now just gathering dust.
-Toshiba Chromebook
-Toshiba Chromebook 2 (2014) - 2gb + non full-HD screen
-Toshiba Chromebook 2 (2014) - 4gb + Full HD screen
-Toshiba Chromebook 2 (2015) - Celeron processor + backlit keyboard (4gb, skullcandy speakers)
-Toshiba Chromebook 2 (2015) - i3 processor + backlit keyboard (4gb, skullcandy speakers)
I still have the original one, which I find to be excellent.
At the moment, we've got 2 different users on our laptop, myself and the mrs. When I log in to my hotmail account via my web browser, my username and password are already stored/displayed and I just click on 'log in'. If I switch user on our laptop, my mrs's info. comes up before logging in to her hotmail account. The same can be said for online banking, amazon, youtube accounts etc.
What I'd like to know is would the same happen on the chromebook when we switch between chromebook users? thanks.
It's the future
If I want to browse the web or check some traffic reports, I flip open the lid, it's instantly on and I'm there within 5 seconds.
On Windows, I have to wait for the machine to do a long boot up, and load all sorts of unnecessary crud into memory. 2 minutes before I'm there. Same story when I'm turning it off - some laborious Windows shutdown routine.
Even with a 4th gen i5 / 8gb ram on my Windows laptop, Chrome is faster and snappier on the Chromebook (4th gen Celeron, 2gb ram).
This Toshiba has excellent battery life, great build quality and is very light. The keyboard and trackpad are also superb, far better than any Windows laptops in this price range (or much more, to be honest).
The Full HD version has more RAM and a much better screen for £70 extra, but the improved screen comes at a cost - Chrome OS isn't well optimised for high DPI displays and you end up with tiny icons. It's not a deal breaker as the screen is far better (as good as any decent IPS panel and much better than the Macbook Air's TN panel) but bear the UI limitations in mind.
Also, for those of you who use Sky Go or NOW TV - you cannot use these on Chromebooks as Sky have disabled them in the Chrome browser (grrr).
In short, yes, things are kept completely separate.
Not any more: https://web.skype.com/en/
These machines are surprisingly versatile. You can even run some Android apps (using Arc Welder in the Chrome Store) and dual-boot these with Linux...
My wife even uses the Remote Desktop app on her HP Chromebook to connect to her Windows desktop PC. She can then use Photoshop on the Chromebook screen. Works flawlessly.
Where these things really fall on their face though is the lack of on-board memory. Cloud services are useless if you are travelling and have a dodgy (or no) internet connection - you can't even watch a film on a wet evening in your room.
Give me a Windows laptop any day of the week. Even a modest one wil have plenty of room for music and movies and you can actually do stuff with them.
Chromebooks have USB 3.0 ports and SD card slots - load one or two cards or thumb drives (or even a portable HDD) up with movies and/or music for your flight/hotel. The built-in player works offline and plays pretty much anything. You don't need masses of on-board memory as you aren't using a huge OS and bloated software.
Good luck finding a Windows laptop with 9-10 hours battery life that can "do stuff" beyond the abilities of this Chromebook for under £150. The best bet would be a tablet/keyboard combo like the Linx 1010B with a smaller screen and the same performance/storage restrictions you describe.
Never used itunes on a PC. Not sure why we would need to. The other half is into Apple and has the phone, the watch, ipad and ipad pro and says they do not need to be connected to a PC.
(If you frequently need a drive, a laptop with one built in will be better, but for occasional use, it works, at least when the Chromebook has its mains adapter/charger plugged in. I had to use a little USB extension cord on mine, because it uses two ports, and the Chromebook I have has them on the two sides, not next to each other - I think this one is the same.)
Was looking at a laptop for my dad. All he does it web browsing and emails.
After reading the comments on that deal, the previous 3 or 4 on here then an hour of youtube videos they look the best price for basic computing. Noted that Skype does not work on these with video and audio, only text unless you are willing to mess about getting it working.
Look at this video for the basics of a Chromebook and decide if its enough for your needs.Chromebook For Beginners
Also available on Amazon for the same price. I'm going to go for John Lewis as they offer two year guarantee.
Amazon
http://www.omgchrome.com/chromebooks-can-upgraded/
I think £70 is alot more for HD Screen and extra RAM, but what do you want to use the Chromebook for??
As for "dodgy or no internet" connections, if you can get a mobile phone signal, you can get an internet connection. I doubt that there are many people who live in areas where there aren't any mobile phone signals.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/install
It is possible to use a 3rd party workaround to download the video from iPlayer on a Windows machine, strip it of its DRM and convert it into a suitable format for a Chromebook but it's not worth the hassle IMO. One of the weakest aspects of ChromeOS is the sketchy codec support. Something like H265 Player from Chrome Store does help but it's a massive CPU resource hog. I love Chromebooks - I think they're great for day to day stuff - but if you do any sort of video encoding/decoding work, you're better off with a Windows machine.
Obviously, you can still watch videos direct through iPlayer on a Chromebook though.
One of the issues facing ChromeOS is Google's commercial attitude towards it. If Google put development resources into it, it could be a great OS but they're stopping it from greatness because they want to push Android everywhere. That's a big mistake IMO as Android simply isn't an OS for a desktop power user. Android on the Pixel C is pretty comical for instance.
Thanks.
However, I've got a slight grumble with the touchpad. When I click by doing a gentle tap on the lower half of the touchpad, it feels a little loose. Difficult to describe really but someone's described it here on redddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/chromeos/comments/3vwb5z/does_the_trackpad_on_toshibas_chromebook_2_2015/?
Certainly doesn't impact on functionality. Was wondering if anyone else has this problem on their new Chromebook?
Thanks to those who answered to my last query.
Assuming that you’re a U.K. based consumer, I’d advise you to contact your nearest branch of John Lewis and ask the shop floor of their computer department if they have both of these Toshiba Chromebook 2’s on display in-store. You could then view them side-by-side in order to make a valid assessment.
There are loads of great reviews on-line - try this one for instance:
http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/laptops/chromebooks/1402696/toshiba-chromebook-2-cb30-b-104-review
Regarding your 1st query:
“Can you upgrade this with extra RAM”?
Don’t take this as absolute gospel, but to the best of my knowledge I believe it’s not possible to add extra RAM to either the CB30-B-103 or CB30-B-104 Chromebook 2, so I’d tend to dispense with that particular notion if I were you.
When going on location or holiday, I tend to take quite a lot of photographs using my identical pair of DSLR camera bodies, each one attached to a different lens. Whilst I already own an excellent but fairly hefty 2014 Windows 8.1 Toshiba Satellite 17.3” laptop, the thought occurred to me that I might be able to preview the shots I take on a lighter tablet of some description, equipped with a full-size SD card slot and a decent HD screen.
The long and the short of the matter was that ridiculously I couldn’t find a single tablet equipped with a full-size SD slot (only MicroSD ones !), which is where Toshiba’s CB30-B-104 remarkable Chromebook 2 came to the rescue, as it has the SD slot I so desperately needed.
Also the invaluable 'instant-on' facility on this Chromebook means that there is absolutely no 'hanging around' for minutes on end (patiently twiddling one’s thumbs !) whilst waiting for a typical older Windows laptop to boot-up. Combine that with a lengthy 9 to 10 hour battery life and this laptop should last most of the day, depending upon what you might be doing on it !
It’s becoming increasingly rare nowadays to find something that greatly exceeds one’s expectations, but in my experience, Toshiba’s CB30-B-104 punches well above it's weight in so many ways that it’s difficult to actually know where to begin.
Depending upon what you wish to achieve with one of these machines, it is my considered opinion that the stingy 2GB’s of DDR3 RAM supplied with the CB30-B-103 is borderline sufficient for smoothly viewing Youtube clips or movies, although others may naturally disagree !
Re your 2nd query:
“I am wondering if I should get the HD version that also comes with an extra 2GB of RAM and obviously the HD display for an extra £70” ?
Well evidently the main visual interaction between any user and a computer is going to be it’s screen, the quality of which is paramount. Having seen the cheaper CB30-B-103 Chromebook 2, it’s 'sub-par' 1366 x 768p resolution and non CSV LED backlit display is plainly not up to scratch. Imagine for one moment being sat in front of a grainy washed out display all day long….is that something you’d really fancy ? Nope, I thought not !
In fact I can virtually guarantee that were you misguided enough to try saving a few quid by purchasing the cheaper CB30-B-103 version, you’d repeatedly kick yourself EVERY SINGLE TIME you opened up the laptop ! So my answer to your second question is unequivocally YES !......and trust me, you’ll have no regrets whatsoever !
At the end of the day, the trivial price differential between Toshiba’s CB30-B-103 Chromebook 2 and their CB30-B-104 Chromebook 2 literally pales into insignificance the very second you first clap your eyes on it’s gorgeous vivid pin-sharp 1920 x 1080p FHD IPS (In Plane Switching) display and for me it was love at first sight.
The additional 2GB of RAM (total 4GB) always wins out every time over the B-103 and means that you can keep as many ‘tabs’ open on the web as you like (within reason !). In a ‘no-holds-barred’ contest, the B-104 comprehensively trounces it’s lesser sibling by some considerable margin.
Incidentally, thus far I've not heard of a Toshiba Chromebook 2 with a backlit keyboard, but imho adding that feature would only make it even more desirable to potential purchasers…..maybe a new Chromebook 3 is hiding around the corner for 2016 ? You'll have to wait and see !
Would I buy the same computer again ? Definitely without a shadow of a doubt….what’s not to like…..simply go for it !
You might find some answers to your question via the links below:
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/review/chromebooks/toshiba-chromebook-2-review-3597903/
http://www.johnlewis.com/toshiba-cb30-b-104-chromebook-intel-celeron-4gb-ram-16gb-ssd-13-3-full-hd-silver/p1841467#tabinfo-ratings
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Toshiba-CB30-B-104-13-Inch-Chromebook-Celeron/product-reviews/B00RK7LFEG
http://www.pocket-lint.com/review/132767-toshiba-chromebook-2-review-finally-a-chromebook-worth-buying
http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/laptops/chromebooks/1402696/toshiba-chromebook-2-cb30-b-104-review
http://www.alphr.com/toshiba/toshiba-chromebook-2
That lot should keep you pretty busy for quite some time.....happy reading !
regards
Richard