​I don't like these helmet lights. As a driver (and cyclist) I find them confusing. Too high and if the cyclist is turning their head it's takes a few seconds to work out what's going on. That's why I don't use one when cycling.

Heat added.

Great for dogging :smile:

I'm a driver and cyclist, probably about 90% cyclist mon-fri, I would totally agree that some of the cyclists I see are moronic to the extreme, but the majority not, same could be said about drivers.
As mentioned though, however moronic a cyclist is do they deserve to die for their stupidity, what is amazing to me is cyclists riding along in the middle of the night dressed in black with no lights.
I was driving along the Mile End road a while back around 2 in the morning and a bunch of guys were riding down the middle of the road pulling wheelies in black with not a light in sight, staggering.

I drive/cycle about 60/40 and you can't blame one or the other. There are some very bad drivers and there are some very bad cyclists, however the vast majority are reasonably good.

However, the difference is this: in the event of an accident drivers are protected buy a strong metal box with crumple zones and airbags, cyclists have nothing except a polystyrene helmet.

I drive frequently AND cycle daily around town. Many cyclists are ignorant and a danger unto themselves and others, yet are religiously vehement that it's drivers who are the problem. I look ahead and see all the stupid risks they take, then tap angrily on car windows when they get cut up or in a near miss.
But then again there are a small minority of drivers who do not drive defensively and shouldn't be on the road.

Cylists, PLEASE do not shine lights straight ahead or upwards, POINT THEM DOWN TO THE ROAD! They dazzle drivers and are dangerous, if car drivers contantly drove with the main-beam on you'd be pretty **** off too.

Hmmm... not sure what a cyclist can do about someone pulling out on them? Are we supposed to assume EVERY motorist is both blind and stupid?

If we hold the line close-ish to the kerb to allow relatively easy passing we have to hope that the car ahead sat waiting for traffic has seen the Christmas tree's worth of lights on the front and won't step on the gas at the gas at the last second (or that the driver passing us as we get to the junction will be alert to the danger too and won't mow us down if we DO try and react).

If we stay nearer the middle of the lane and ride defensively we're being a pointless road block with most drivers annoyed they had to wait to get past.

Suggestions are very welcome. (Facetious suggestion:) perhaps an intelligent, bright light that finds drivers heads and shines a light in their face so they can't miss us?

Edit: Personally, just taken the "cree's to the max, ebay special" route. Those drivers bothered by slightly too bright bike lights (while I keep mine angled well down the cree's are quite intense) can blame the muppets.

​I'm pretty sure the two near miss stories above weren't blaming motorists... just women.

These are good but can leak a bit in very wet weather and go dim. They are only to be seen, they will not light your way. On the plus side, high drivers like trucks can see you better I think.
For riding on dark roads I can highly recommend the Cateye Volt 800, not cheap but very bright, small and well designed, battery lasts for hours. They have the always-on-and-flashing-at-the same-time mode which is great for traffic. a double-click goes straight to full brightness.

Helmet light? Suppose I can see its purpose, wife and I often turn the lights off.

Been using this for a week now and pretty impressed, very light, don't really notice it and a good bright light. not bad at all:D

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Great for dogging :smile:

As a cyclist and a driver I get annoyed at both.

I have a hope r4 light which is ridiculously bright on full power, think of a xenon headlight on main beam and you get the idea. I have it because I like to do off road trails at light. Now on the way to the trails I have the light angled right down on its lowest setting to not dazzle other drivers. Yet when I am in the car they think they have the God given right to light their bike up like a Xmas tree totally dazzling road users with their bar and helmet lights and riding like they own the road.

Bikers, if you want respect and room on the road, have some respect back. It's not much to ask.

​most of the time you're looking down at the road dodging all the pot holes.

You need
Yes gents, it's your fault if they run you over or put you over their bonnet.....sharpen up son my ***se.

Please tell me your joking, my sense of humour is not that good this early in the morningoO
PS If I hadn't been very alert I'd probably be in A&E now..........

Rather than blaming motorists you need to be more alert. Keep your vision up and spot things earlier rather than having near misses - very simple, sharpen up son.

Generally very poor quality, leak, short out and lights not always all they're cracked up to be.
Just my experience and opinion, would always go with 'smart' now.

New record for me. Had two very bright front lights on my bike and the woman who pulled out of the road going across the cycleway didn't see me until I'd stopped literally inches from her car window...

These look about the right size and probably what I seen.
Why are they no good?

didn't say it was, just answering the question

Heat for the deal.
Going off at a tangent slightly... I was driving past a cyclist today and he had a front light fitted to his bike that was amazingly bright and huge.
I wanted to stop and ask him what light it was but traffic was too busy.
Anybody got any ideas?

Not good, believe me.

Thanks for the heads up (no pun intended). Its been price-matched in Halfords so I've just reserved one.