Magnetically Shielded Are they magnetically shielded? Allows speaker to be placed near a CRT TV/Monitor or sensitive magnetically stored data without the risk of damage. Yes
Sensitivity (dB) The higher the figure the easier the speaker is to drive - meaning a lower powered amp may be used 91
Impedance (ohms) Resistance. Average figure is 8 ohmns. Figure halves when doubling the number of speakers 8
Bi-wireable Are they bi-wirable? Separate earthing for tweeter and woofer - when used with bi-wiring cable gives a more precise sound Yes
Power Rating (Watts) Maximum power rating - long term/short term (RMS) 100/200
Dimensions Dimensions of speaker cabinet excluding any spikes, feet or binding posts. (H x W x D) in mm 970 x 204 x 281
Weight Weight of each speaker in KG. 14.2
Black Is the finish of this speaker black? No
Wood Is the finish of this speaker wood style or wood? Yes
Other Colour Is the finish of this speaker another colour? No
Freq Response (Hz) The lower the first figure the deeper the bass should be 32 - 25,000
Speaker Enclosure Type Type of speaker enclosure. Infinite baffle cabinets are sealed and so are often less fussy about placement. Usually they do require a little more power to drive, though. Bass reflex speakers are usually more efficient than infinite baffle designs but may require more care in terms of placement. Rear port designs, in particular, usually need at least 15-30cm (6 - 12 inches) between them and the wall behind, for a balanced bass response. ABR = Auxcillary Bass Radiator (looks like a standard bass cone but without power)
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siadwel
28 Nov 159#8
And you should learn to get a sense of humour, he's mocking himself. Whoosh, over your head I'm afraid.
Uridium
28 Nov 158#1
a lot of good quality speakers for the money. I know soundbars are the current fashion but hook a pair of these and an AV Receiver to your TV and it will make a soundbar sound silly.
LOUGHBORO GUY
28 Nov 154#4
What no onkyo ?
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Uridium
28 Nov 158#1
a lot of good quality speakers for the money. I know soundbars are the current fashion but hook a pair of these and an AV Receiver to your TV and it will make a soundbar sound silly.
danflorin3 to Uridium
28 Nov 15#2
I have sony av receiver strdh 850 + 5 surround speakers, this should be good for what i've got?
ruc to Uridium
1 Dec 15#36
rev6
28 Nov 15#3
It should work fine. Just make sure you don't overload the AV with too much power usage as that's never good for the speakers.
LOUGHBORO GUY
28 Nov 154#4
What no onkyo ?
mdj82
28 Nov 15#5
they are lovely things, if you have the space. though those are black pictured.
PsychoSonny
28 Nov 15#6
You should actually do some research so you don't look clueless with every post.
Sony's latest receivers have been very well received. In fact they are one of the best you can buy.
Just because someone told you to buy an onkyo 5 years ago doesn't mean you should buy one for the rest of your life.
mrkaroshi
28 Nov 152#7
There have also been 'issues' with some Onkyo equipment, which is why I avoided the brand...
siadwel
28 Nov 159#8
And you should learn to get a sense of humour, he's mocking himself. Whoosh, over your head I'm afraid.
Oh dear oh dear oh dear, you SonnyBoy are failure of the day :smiley: It's an in joke started by Loughboro Guy, it's almost a legend on these forums.
fender62
28 Nov 15#15
i have these speakers running through a denon avr 1912 amp, and all i can say is wow...best money i ever spent
i totally recommend them, but do get a decent amp to run them, they will blow you away and they look great
anewman
28 Nov 151#16
I need these to go with my CRT TV.
dush_yant
28 Nov 15#17
Good luck finding any store that have this in stock! You'll probably end up at your local store gutted it isn't in stock and end up buying a more expensive model! There are only 4 ex-service ones stocked at RS Chiswick, Leicester, London Bridge and Plymouth....
Richer Sounds to dush_yant
30 Nov 151#32
Hi there,
I saw your post on this thread but was a confused by little confused to read your comments. At the time of writing the vast majority of our stores do have stock of this item, with our central warehouse holding over further 100 pairs!
Of course if you, or indeed any other forum member, have had problems getting hold of this deal then please PM me and I will arrange to get a pair of these speakers for you asap.
Many thanks,
John Clayton
Operations Director
Richer Sounds
TheBiker
28 Nov 15#18
Not sure what you are alluding to, I have five speakers and a subwoofer connected to my AV Receiver and it doesn't complain. In fact thats what they are designed to do.
dark_nugget
28 Nov 15#19
good luck convincing the wife of their quality and great price being the reason that your TV corner grows so much larger!
jokes aside, I used to work in a Richer Sounds, these are great hi fi speakers and would be great for a home cinema set up. some of the high end tannoy speakers (£600+) sound jaw dropping good, these speakers posted are probably some of the best within a reasonable price range.
rev6
28 Nov 15#20
AV's have a maximum power output. If you get close to it it can damage the speakers.
Nothing to do with the amount of speakers but power output of them all combined.
Read up on clipping.
Your subwoofer is most likely active so not relevant here.
Uridium
28 Nov 15#21
yeah replace the front pair with these.
TheBiker
29 Nov 15#22
So little knowledge but such a sweeping statement, now you call it clippimg...
Read up on Yamaha DSP-Z7 then tell me about AV,
Yes I know my subwoofer is active so what are you trying to tell me?
No8
29 Nov 15#23
Unfortunately, it isn't that simple. Although these are great speakers for the money, just swapping them with your existing FL & FR channel could completely unbalance your setup, particularly with the centre speaker.
Uridium
29 Nov 15#24
ok so you change the Fronts with these and then adjust levels to compensate. Many many people use large floorstanders like these as fronts in a 5.1 setup as it gives good flexibility when listening to music using just the fronts with Stereo mix on the AVR.
AV aficionados (and most of the comments on Avforums) will tell you mixing speaker brands is a no no but in the real world most people will only hear an improvement by using a pair of floorstanders like these in a 5.1 setup.
A modern 7.2 AVR like the sony strdh850 will have no issue driving a pair of these with the existing weedy front and rear sony speakers.
rev6
29 Nov 15#25
It's always been clipping, that was the point of my original comment to the person asking if these speakers would be fine with his AV. The answer is yes, they are fine, but not knowing which the other 5 speakers he has are, we don't know if adding 2 with power ratings such as these would be too much for his AV at high volumes. I'm not talking about speaker amount here but power output the AV has to put up with.
I don't know why knowing what AV you have is relevant to the topic. Is it immune to causing clipping?
An active subwoofer has no relevance in a topic about overloading an AV. It has it's own power source, but I'm sure you already knew that.
picked up a pair from Nottingham today, great speakers!
Ulti
29 Nov 15#27
I assume this counts as a 2.0 speaker system. How do these fare against a similar priced 2.1 soundbar system (like the LG LAS455H at Currys @ £129) versus a standard 2.0 bookshelf system (what I am using for my PC nearfield setup atm) as well as versus a full 5.1 home cinema system for music, films and gaming?
I imagine obviously a decent 5.1 system will easily surpass the 2.0 systems and 2.1 soundbars for immersion but in terms of music I imagine for most modern music of pop and rock genres, would the 2.0 and 2.1 systems work/sound better? Are these good enough for casual films and games and how does it compare again with a 2.1 soundbar system or smaller bookshelf speakers?
Uridium to Ulti
29 Nov 151#28
They might not give you the brash cinema experience that the soundbar will give you on a hollywood effects ridden movie like transformers etc but a pair of these will give you a lovely well defined output for music. and as a bonus you can grow the system later.
I started off with a pair of Tannoy Mercury custom bookshelves, I then added a Front shortly followed by a pair of Mercury custom Floorstanders and a Sub. Then just a few months back I added a pair of Atmos speakers when I upgraded my AVR to an Atmos receiver and I'm now running a 5.1.2 setup.
I still flick the AVR to Stereo and use just the floor standers for music listening though.
Ulti
29 Nov 15#29
Thank you for your insight!
Hmm so the soundbar will sound "better" (to most people but not technically better?) for modern movies/games but 2.0 bookshelves/speakers will sound better for music.
Is that correct? Because I love my monitor speakers for music because they're just so neutral and accurate, but when I play games or watch films I would perhaps like it to be a bit warmer. I guess as a casual gamer/film watcher maybe I should get a soundbar for my TV just because they're pretty tidy and right now there are some okay deals and stick with my bookshelves for my PC. If I find more time to game or watch films in the future then maybe I'll hand the soundbar down and upgrade to something like what you have for total immersion. I imagine adding the front, sub and Atmos didn't improve the music quality much, hence you still go back to stereo but you added them for depth and immersion for films/gaming?
hcc27
30 Nov 15#30
Onkyo has been at the butt end of many a joke in this forum I'm afraid..some that involve a sofa as well.
If you're new to the forum you wouldn't be aware.
hcc27
30 Nov 15#31
A very logical path you've followed, ensuring good stereo reproduction for music while having the flexibility of surround sound for home cinema. The Atmos is a nice touch.
siadwel
30 Nov 15#33
Thank you. Ever thought of clicking on a name :wink:
danflorin3
1 Dec 15#34
I have 5 little speakers, pioneer ssl100, and I want this 2 fore more power, I don't think is to much for AV..it say is 7.2 AV :smiley:
rev6
1 Dec 15#35
AV's don't have a limitless power supply :smiley: It's something you should consider when purchasing one and when adding/upgrading speakers
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Opening post
Magnetically Shielded Are they magnetically shielded? Allows speaker to be placed near a CRT TV/Monitor or sensitive magnetically stored data without the risk of damage. Yes
Sensitivity (dB) The higher the figure the easier the speaker is to drive - meaning a lower powered amp may be used 91
Impedance (ohms) Resistance. Average figure is 8 ohmns. Figure halves when doubling the number of speakers 8
Bi-wireable Are they bi-wirable? Separate earthing for tweeter and woofer - when used with bi-wiring cable gives a more precise sound Yes
Power Rating (Watts) Maximum power rating - long term/short term (RMS) 100/200
Dimensions Dimensions of speaker cabinet excluding any spikes, feet or binding posts. (H x W x D) in mm 970 x 204 x 281
Weight Weight of each speaker in KG. 14.2
Black Is the finish of this speaker black? No
Wood Is the finish of this speaker wood style or wood? Yes
Other Colour Is the finish of this speaker another colour? No
Freq Response (Hz) The lower the first figure the deeper the bass should be 32 - 25,000
Speaker Enclosure Type Type of speaker enclosure. Infinite baffle cabinets are sealed and so are often less fussy about placement. Usually they do require a little more power to drive, though. Bass reflex speakers are usually more efficient than infinite baffle designs but may require more care in terms of placement. Rear port designs, in particular, usually need at least 15-30cm (6 - 12 inches) between them and the wall behind, for a balanced bass response. ABR = Auxcillary Bass Radiator (looks like a standard bass cone but without power)
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All comments (37)
Sony's latest receivers have been very well received. In fact they are one of the best you can buy.
Just because someone told you to buy an onkyo 5 years ago doesn't mean you should buy one for the rest of your life.
NSF51
http://www.richersounds.com/product/floorstanders/yamaha/nsf51/yama-nsf51
:wink:
i totally recommend them, but do get a decent amp to run them, they will blow you away and they look great
I saw your post on this thread but was a confused by little confused to read your comments. At the time of writing the vast majority of our stores do have stock of this item, with our central warehouse holding over further 100 pairs!
Of course if you, or indeed any other forum member, have had problems getting hold of this deal then please PM me and I will arrange to get a pair of these speakers for you asap.
Many thanks,
John Clayton
Operations Director
Richer Sounds
jokes aside, I used to work in a Richer Sounds, these are great hi fi speakers and would be great for a home cinema set up. some of the high end tannoy speakers (£600+) sound jaw dropping good, these speakers posted are probably some of the best within a reasonable price range.
Nothing to do with the amount of speakers but power output of them all combined.
Read up on clipping.
Your subwoofer is most likely active so not relevant here.
Read up on Yamaha DSP-Z7 then tell me about AV,
Yes I know my subwoofer is active so what are you trying to tell me?
AV aficionados (and most of the comments on Avforums) will tell you mixing speaker brands is a no no but in the real world most people will only hear an improvement by using a pair of floorstanders like these in a 5.1 setup.
A modern 7.2 AVR like the sony strdh850 will have no issue driving a pair of these with the existing weedy front and rear sony speakers.
I don't know why knowing what AV you have is relevant to the topic. Is it immune to causing clipping?
An active subwoofer has no relevance in a topic about overloading an AV. It has it's own power source, but I'm sure you already knew that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipping_%28audio%29
I imagine obviously a decent 5.1 system will easily surpass the 2.0 systems and 2.1 soundbars for immersion but in terms of music I imagine for most modern music of pop and rock genres, would the 2.0 and 2.1 systems work/sound better? Are these good enough for casual films and games and how does it compare again with a 2.1 soundbar system or smaller bookshelf speakers?
I started off with a pair of Tannoy Mercury custom bookshelves, I then added a Front shortly followed by a pair of Mercury custom Floorstanders and a Sub. Then just a few months back I added a pair of Atmos speakers when I upgraded my AVR to an Atmos receiver and I'm now running a 5.1.2 setup.
I still flick the AVR to Stereo and use just the floor standers for music listening though.
Hmm so the soundbar will sound "better" (to most people but not technically better?) for modern movies/games but 2.0 bookshelves/speakers will sound better for music.
Is that correct? Because I love my monitor speakers for music because they're just so neutral and accurate, but when I play games or watch films I would perhaps like it to be a bit warmer. I guess as a casual gamer/film watcher maybe I should get a soundbar for my TV just because they're pretty tidy and right now there are some okay deals and stick with my bookshelves for my PC. If I find more time to game or watch films in the future then maybe I'll hand the soundbar down and upgrade to something like what you have for total immersion. I imagine adding the front, sub and Atmos didn't improve the music quality much, hence you still go back to stereo but you added them for depth and immersion for films/gaming?
If you're new to the forum you wouldn't be aware.