Very well reviewed TV at a good price with free delivery
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NoFinPhish to AVANTIME
10 Dec 156#4
It was clearly better in Currys because they would be feeding it with a 4K signal.
If you currently have an HD TV have you ever flicked between an HD channel and the same programme in a non-HD channel? Skysports and Skysports HD for instance? The difference is obvious isn't it. Thats because your TV can't magically improve the quality of the non-HD picture. It upscales the picture, (think of it as zooming in but its not really), but all the detail that is missing can't be put back by the TV.
Theres an even bigger jump when you move up to 4k. At the moment there are very few options to get a 4k signal, I believe some Netflix films are in 4k but not many. So really what's the point? You might as well wait until there is something to play on your 4k TV that will do it justice.
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HUX1
12 Dec 15#25
Sky 4k comes out early next year! Hence theres gonna be some real bargains on non 4k sets
mickmurdoch
11 Dec 15#22
So boys n girls whats best full hd tv at 48" - 50". And whats a very good 4k set that handles sd, hd well
optimusprime987 to mickmurdoch
12 Dec 15#24
i bought the Samsung ue48ju6500 doesn't have HDR but I'm not worried as we don't even have much 4k yet very impressed with the stuff that's on offer though thinks its the best you can get for under £1000
AVANTIME
10 Dec 151#2
I'm so confused with TV's on here, was holding out for a good deal on a ULTRA HD set, then you read people saying there's no real point too it, having viewed them in Currys the picture was clearly better than normal HD, any help would be appreciated as this looks like a good TV.
SpoonyBoy to AVANTIME
10 Dec 152#3
I've also read reviews that standard definition through some 4k tv's (good branded ones) is not as good as through a full HD tv. I'm starting to think save myself £300+ and get a top 1080p tv whilst they are on their way out. this looks like a good deal but it will be half price next year when oled becomes mainstream.
NoFinPhish to AVANTIME
10 Dec 156#4
It was clearly better in Currys because they would be feeding it with a 4K signal.
If you currently have an HD TV have you ever flicked between an HD channel and the same programme in a non-HD channel? Skysports and Skysports HD for instance? The difference is obvious isn't it. Thats because your TV can't magically improve the quality of the non-HD picture. It upscales the picture, (think of it as zooming in but its not really), but all the detail that is missing can't be put back by the TV.
Theres an even bigger jump when you move up to 4k. At the moment there are very few options to get a 4k signal, I believe some Netflix films are in 4k but not many. So really what's the point? You might as well wait until there is something to play on your 4k TV that will do it justice.
gluke21 to AVANTIME
10 Dec 151#7
When you see a 4K TV in a store you probably stand
a few feet from it which is the "sweet"spot for a 4K TV.
At home you may be 10 feet away and the extra pixels
are not visible to your eyes. Many sets now come with
a feature called HDR which dramatically improves the
contrast between white and dark. This can be seen at
all distances from a set. In my view it is best to buy a
good reviewed 4K set with the HDR (High Dynamic
Range) feature as well.
supergeekno1 to AVANTIME
11 Dec 151#23
Here's an easy to follow explanation on 4K tv. When you were in Currys you saw the TV looking bright and more colourful than the rest. That was a 4K demo. The reality is there isn't much 4K content available, even with Amazon Instant Video and Netflix there is generally 18 different programmes in UH 4K. Soyou end up with a 4K tv that only does what a regular HDTV would have done just you paid more. Unless you do 4K gaming via pc. So there you have it.
KamakazieAl
10 Dec 152#21
To be fair, sky's SD and freeview SD are massively different. Sky make SD look worse to get people to buy HD. How do I know? I work for them!
ChampEon
10 Dec 15#20
Ah I see. Yeah I don't get that either. Sky's HD channels are apparently only 1080i and blu-rays are obviously 1080p so I don't get why 4k TVs are selling at all tbh.
NoFinPhish
10 Dec 15#19
Sorry fella, the first paragraph was meant as a reply to your comment, the second was a general comment for people who rush out and buy 4k TVs and 72 Megapixel cameras, but I realise it didn;t read that way
vig1lante
10 Dec 15#18
The 1080/720p debate isn't really the same either. Most people still can't tell the difference between the two.
You'd certainly get more from a modern 1080p TV than you would your existing.
I'm not sure where I sit on 4K/UHD. Personally I don't think it will flourish in the UK due to the technology required to use it (at least 30-40MB broadband) and the lack of input sources
msharif911
10 Dec 15#17
You are right about the lack of content. But my current TV is an early 1080p HD TV and back then the same debate rages about 1080p Vs 720p. I've now had this TV for 8 or 9 years. Its "adequate", but I want more. I want the "wow factor" of a Curved TV and the most current tech I can afford now so the next TV is still at least Adequate in 8 or 9 years time.
Automodellista
10 Dec 15#16
having just bought a Samsung 55 6800 in the black Friday sales I can absolutely confirm the upscaling to 4k works bloody well when watching Pacific rim or guardians of the galaxy from a 1080p source. also the latency is better than my 1080p lg when using in 'game mode'. this cuts off the upscaling and bells and whistles so your gpu has to be capable of native 4k but with mine running in standard 1080p it's still very quick and looks great. the nano crystal display is quite something.
msharif911
10 Dec 15#10
Not 4K/UHD so no good for me. I want something better than what I already have if I'm changing TVs.
vig1lante to msharif911
10 Dec 15#13
A resolution increase doesn't mean it will be better. Like other people have mentioned unless you feed a 4K TV a Native 4K source even Full HD will not look as good as it does on a Native Full HD set due to scaling and software.
A Premium Full HD TV will hands down beat a cheap or standard 4K TV.
Also, lots of reviews on 4K TV's suggest they are bad for gaming due to the latency created when upscaling the image.
Chigro to msharif911
10 Dec 15#15
Just my opinion but I don't necessarily think that a higher resolution makes a better TV. As mentioned by others here, a better quality 1080p TV is a much better buy than a cheap quality 4K/UHD.
For this reason, I'm actually after a flat 55" 1080p OLED for my bedroom (it's a big bedroom) but alas, no such device exists AFAIK. I have seen a curved 1080p OLED next to a 4K/UHD TV playing the same footage and I'd take the 1080p OLED every time.
I've heard of quantum dot technology being mentioned but I don't think it can ever achieve the same level of contrast ratio as an OLED? But I've never seen quantum dot before so look forward to seeing an example side-by-side to an OLED.
One other thing (sorry for going off topic). I've noticed that manufacturers are obsessed with improving the picture quality and increasing the resolution (I heard 8K being mentioned here). There is a 4K phone now for any's sake! I think the picture quality is already as good as I'd personally like (for the majority of TVs). I went to Costco and saw a demo of their LG 4K OLED w/ HDR and stood for a good 20 mins weeping (with joy) at the image.
Instead, I really wish that manufacturers would focus on pushing decent quality audio. So many people have fancy expensive TVs but still listen to their audio through their TV or (*shudder*) a sound bar. I went to a home cinema demonstration of Dolby Digital Atmos and DTS X and it was incredible (again I sat there weeping with joy - I do that a lot). Most people don't even have a basic 5.1 Dolby Digital setup and aren't fussed, as long as their TV resolution is decent. It is a shame, as a properly set up sound system (with audio panels etc.) can offer a far more immersive experience than increasing the number of pixels.
Anyway back on topic. Have some heat OP. This is a great deal for a 55".
ChampEon
10 Dec 15#14
Who said anything about impressing the neighbours? I was just excited about the prospect of OLED becoming mainstream and therefore affordable. I like the solid blacks and popping colours I get on my AMOLED phone and would love to see that on a TV in my living room. I could be wrong but you sound a little passive-aggressive imo.
NoFinPhish
10 Dec 15#12
We have quantum dot TVs lined up in the next few years as well. One of the TV manufacturers, I think it is Samsung has stopped development of OLED and switched to QD as its likely to bring UHD television into your living room at a lower price. So if you are waiting on OLED dropping in price, you might as well wait on QD, then wait on XXXX that we be mainstream a few years after.
Personally I bought a cracking Panasonic PHD8 plasma about 8 or 9 years ago now, and I still get superb pictures from that even though it's not native full 1080 HD. If you want to jump on the bandwagon to impress the neighbours go right ahead.
AVANTIME
10 Dec 151#11
Thanks all for your advice, the TV we have now is a Panasonic Viera TX-P50C2B Plasma HD, it's abut 5 years old, have to say though the picture in HD is amazing, just after a bigger set but wondering if there will be much difference in the picture, compared to something like the one posted here.
SpoonyBoy
10 Dec 15#9
I can't be sure. I remember seeing oled tv in the Sony shop in Chicago in 2008 and being impressed. high street shops have them at £2000+ now so I think next year 4k will be the normal tv and oled will be the premium sets.
like others have said there is not a lot to watch in 4k now. I have a 1080 tv but I still watch all my movies in 720 as the picture is good enough for me and it's quicker to download/stream.
When I first learned about OLED TVs about 4/5 years ago I was amazed. Never thought they'd be mainstream so soon! Are you sure it's happening next year?
rattler9uk
10 Dec 15#5
Well if you have BT sport you can now watch the football matches in 4K! This is a quality picture but if you ain't impressed with normal HD there's something wrong!
Angel_Of_The_North
10 Dec 151#1
Superb price for 55 inches. Seems to have good reviews too. Great find OP.
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If you currently have an HD TV have you ever flicked between an HD channel and the same programme in a non-HD channel? Skysports and Skysports HD for instance? The difference is obvious isn't it. Thats because your TV can't magically improve the quality of the non-HD picture. It upscales the picture, (think of it as zooming in but its not really), but all the detail that is missing can't be put back by the TV.
Theres an even bigger jump when you move up to 4k. At the moment there are very few options to get a 4k signal, I believe some Netflix films are in 4k but not many. So really what's the point? You might as well wait until there is something to play on your 4k TV that will do it justice.
Latest comments (25)
If you currently have an HD TV have you ever flicked between an HD channel and the same programme in a non-HD channel? Skysports and Skysports HD for instance? The difference is obvious isn't it. Thats because your TV can't magically improve the quality of the non-HD picture. It upscales the picture, (think of it as zooming in but its not really), but all the detail that is missing can't be put back by the TV.
Theres an even bigger jump when you move up to 4k. At the moment there are very few options to get a 4k signal, I believe some Netflix films are in 4k but not many. So really what's the point? You might as well wait until there is something to play on your 4k TV that will do it justice.
a few feet from it which is the "sweet"spot for a 4K TV.
At home you may be 10 feet away and the extra pixels
are not visible to your eyes. Many sets now come with
a feature called HDR which dramatically improves the
contrast between white and dark. This can be seen at
all distances from a set. In my view it is best to buy a
good reviewed 4K set with the HDR (High Dynamic
Range) feature as well.
You'd certainly get more from a modern 1080p TV than you would your existing.
I'm not sure where I sit on 4K/UHD. Personally I don't think it will flourish in the UK due to the technology required to use it (at least 30-40MB broadband) and the lack of input sources
A Premium Full HD TV will hands down beat a cheap or standard 4K TV.
Also, lots of reviews on 4K TV's suggest they are bad for gaming due to the latency created when upscaling the image.
For this reason, I'm actually after a flat 55" 1080p OLED for my bedroom (it's a big bedroom) but alas, no such device exists AFAIK. I have seen a curved 1080p OLED next to a 4K/UHD TV playing the same footage and I'd take the 1080p OLED every time.
I've heard of quantum dot technology being mentioned but I don't think it can ever achieve the same level of contrast ratio as an OLED? But I've never seen quantum dot before so look forward to seeing an example side-by-side to an OLED.
One other thing (sorry for going off topic). I've noticed that manufacturers are obsessed with improving the picture quality and increasing the resolution (I heard 8K being mentioned here). There is a 4K phone now for any's sake! I think the picture quality is already as good as I'd personally like (for the majority of TVs). I went to Costco and saw a demo of their LG 4K OLED w/ HDR and stood for a good 20 mins weeping (with joy) at the image.
Instead, I really wish that manufacturers would focus on pushing decent quality audio. So many people have fancy expensive TVs but still listen to their audio through their TV or (*shudder*) a sound bar. I went to a home cinema demonstration of Dolby Digital Atmos and DTS X and it was incredible (again I sat there weeping with joy - I do that a lot). Most people don't even have a basic 5.1 Dolby Digital setup and aren't fussed, as long as their TV resolution is decent. It is a shame, as a properly set up sound system (with audio panels etc.) can offer a far more immersive experience than increasing the number of pixels.
Anyway back on topic. Have some heat OP. This is a great deal for a 55".
Personally I bought a cracking Panasonic PHD8 plasma about 8 or 9 years ago now, and I still get superb pictures from that even though it's not native full 1080 HD. If you want to jump on the bandwagon to impress the neighbours go right ahead.
like others have said there is not a lot to watch in 4k now. I have a 1080 tv but I still watch all my movies in 720 as the picture is good enough for me and it's quicker to download/stream.