F2.0 LEICA DC VARIO-SUMMICRON Lens,
7.1 x Zoom (28-200mm equivalent),
1/1.7-inch, 12.1-megapixel High Sensitivity MOS Sensor
3-inch, 920k-dot TFT LCD screen
0.2-inch 200K-dot Equivalent EVF (Electronic Viewfinder)
Control Ring and Composition Guide
Wireless Connectivity via Wi-Fi® / NFC
£149.99 + Free delivery & 2 year warranty.
Top comments
Bendown
13 Dec 157#5
It aint all about pixels, the more pixels pushed into a small sensor the more noise.
pavel76
13 Dec 156#6
Muppet
elkay to srw985
13 Dec 153#18
The three main things are...
- much faster lens, which means better results in low light and better image quality.
- larger sensor, meaning pixels less crowded (which causes "noise" in low light situations).
- more manual functionality, meaning you can adjust settings to get the best of the situation.
This camera will deliver better image quality than the TZ range. However, for most people the difference in quality is not significant, so the longer zoom becomes a more significant advantage.
regards
Elkay
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Woolman88
27 Dec 15#36
Just bought one in store at argos for the same price. nice piece of kit with plenty of manual options available to enhance a photo
TK42
16 Dec 15#35
With all due respect the review doesn't mention the word 'Strong' at all. And only mentions 'Signature look' once, with regards to the appeal of the images the camera produces. "There is definitely character to the images you get with the Panasonic LF1, when I look at them, there is a certain feel, a certain texture to them that I find very pleasing".
TK42
14 Dec 152#28
Hmmm not sure about that, there are plenty of orange Ladybirds, even yellow ones!
It might be an orange ladybird, or more likely it might be that the LF1 is pushing the red towards orange because after looking through lots of sample videos and images for the LF1, there is definitely a re-occuring theme where it gets certain colours wrong.
The review you linked to confirms this and repeatedly mentions that the LF1 has a strong "signature look" with its colours. The way the LF1 does certain shades of grass and leaves is particularly unappealing. It also has a tendency to overblow any colour within the vicinity of orange, which is something that happens a lot on low end Nikon compacts. The LF1 is supposed to be a high end compact, so its colours should really be better than this.
damo-mca
15 Dec 15#32
Same price at Argos. Not sure about the warranty there.
TK42 to damo-mca
16 Dec 15#33
Carriage extra at Argos.
Gabriel959
14 Dec 15#31
Thank you for the great reply. I can actually buy the TZ70 for £200 from Currys as I get 10% off in vouchers through work! so that and the cashback will make it £200 which is the maximum I wanted to spend. Thanks a lot :-)
TK42
14 Dec 151#30
The Sony has more MP but a smaller sensor. More MP will give you a larger image but because of the smaller sensor the image will be noisier, i.e, not so good in low light. The LF1 also has an EVF which the Sony doesn't.
A similar camera to the LF1 but with bigger zoom (24-720mm and better EVF is the Panasonic Lumix TZ70 (£220 with cashback).
Gabriel959
14 Dec 15#29
How does this compare against this Sony on offer at Amazon:
I have to say I am a complete ignoramus when it comes to camera but I can see that the Sony has got a much bigger zoom and more megapixels. Which one is better?
brilly
14 Dec 15#27
colour balance is easily fixed
bird shot looks like you are trying to shoot into bright sun which is a common problem for most cameras
Show_Me_The_Money
13 Dec 15#26
If the colours on this camera had been more normal this would have been a good deal, but the colours are just too weird.
It's a shame Panasonic imposed such a strong colour style on it with no other colour tweaking options to get more natural colours.
Example of what's wrong with the colours on the Panasonic LF1: The green is too pale and yellowish and the ladybird which should be red has been shifted towards orange.
Example 2. The green leaves have a yellowish tinge and the red of the bird is "over cooked".
Example 3. LF1 makes certain shades of grass look really bad. The red Audi sign is shifted towards orange. The LF1 goes excessive on orange/autumnal colours.
Best not look at this then. It's only 16.2MP and doesn't even have a lens, it must be awful :man:
Show_Me_The_Money
13 Dec 15#23
Awful camera with disgusting colours. It makes grass look like vomit with a sickly yellow tinge on certain types of grass/leaves. It also over exagerates autumnal colours ie orange/red/yellow. If you have any wooden furniture, this camera will make the wood look like day-glow orange! So only get this camera if you want your prized wooden furniture to look like a high-viz jacket. This camera is as bad as a low end Nikon compact because it tries to make everything look like autumn. Truly reprehensible.
mikeyfive
13 Dec 15#22
Great camera, I wish the zoom range started at 24mm thought tbh.
swayndo
13 Dec 15#21
Great wee camera. As others have said larger than usual compact sensor, viewfinder, wireless functions and manual controls separate this from cheaper cameras. Solid little thing too.
u0421793
13 Dec 15#20
If a person doesn’t understand the advantages of this camera, it’s fairly likely they weren’t actually aware of what distinguishes this camera from others, and furthermore, quite probably, they weren’t even looking for this category of camera in the first place. Consequently, a deal such as this would be of little interest to them.
However, if I were in the market for a good camera that fits into a pocket; has a viewfinder; a very useful zoom range (ie, not ridiculously huge); a decently-sized small sensor without too many megapixels (which would be detrimental at such a size); and a good control ring UI, I might have gone for it (if I hadn’t just recently acquired a secondhand Sony RX10 at a ludicrously good trade-in price for some of my lesser-used gear, and the sober realisation that, yes, one really can have too many cameras).
srw985
13 Dec 15#8
What's so good about this camera?
Not doubting the deal, just curious. Must have one hell of a lens / sensor going for it, because you can pay less for 35X optical zoom at 20odd megapixels
olo to srw985
13 Dec 15#10
Bright lens on this one. Great performance in low-light like indoors-even without flash. Full manual control.
elkay to srw985
13 Dec 153#18
The three main things are...
- much faster lens, which means better results in low light and better image quality.
- larger sensor, meaning pixels less crowded (which causes "noise" in low light situations).
- more manual functionality, meaning you can adjust settings to get the best of the situation.
This camera will deliver better image quality than the TZ range. However, for most people the difference in quality is not significant, so the longer zoom becomes a more significant advantage.
regards
Elkay
Besford to srw985
13 Dec 15#19
Quality over quantity: I suspect it isn't the right camera for you.
brilly
13 Dec 15#17
seems pretty decent
small, raw, useful range, small evf for emergencies
elkay
13 Dec 15#16
It would be more in the spirit of HotUKDeals if you educated rather than insulted....
Elkay
Gabriel959
13 Dec 15#3
as far as I can see the TZ10 is at least £50 more expensive than this one including cashback or am I looking in the wrong place?
I've been looking at them for my son. You'd be buying the TZ70 for the zoom, but otherwise not a lot of difference. This is cheaper, but not a lot when you take into account the £40 cashback.
Besford to Bendown
13 Dec 15#7
This is a more 'serious' camera with full manual control. The TZ has a much bigger zoom.
Both good but depends on your needs.
Not sure what price this was at launch in 2013 but assume it's on runout now as plenty of places discounting it, eg £154 at Argos.
Opening post
7.1 x Zoom (28-200mm equivalent),
1/1.7-inch, 12.1-megapixel High Sensitivity MOS Sensor
3-inch, 920k-dot TFT LCD screen
0.2-inch 200K-dot Equivalent EVF (Electronic Viewfinder)
Control Ring and Composition Guide
Wireless Connectivity via Wi-Fi® / NFC
£149.99 + Free delivery & 2 year warranty.
Top comments
- much faster lens, which means better results in low light and better image quality.
- larger sensor, meaning pixels less crowded (which causes "noise" in low light situations).
- more manual functionality, meaning you can adjust settings to get the best of the situation.
This camera will deliver better image quality than the TZ range. However, for most people the difference in quality is not significant, so the longer zoom becomes a more significant advantage.
regards
Elkay
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Have a look at the greens and reds here you might be suprised...
http://www.theinspiredeye.net/panasonic-dmc-lf1-camera-review-an-amazing-pocket-multi-tool/
The review you linked to confirms this and repeatedly mentions that the LF1 has a strong "signature look" with its colours. The way the LF1 does certain shades of grass and leaves is particularly unappealing. It also has a tendency to overblow any colour within the vicinity of orange, which is something that happens a lot on low end Nikon compacts. The LF1 is supposed to be a high end compact, so its colours should really be better than this.
A similar camera to the LF1 but with bigger zoom (24-720mm and better EVF is the Panasonic Lumix TZ70 (£220 with cashback).
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00WSIAE4Y?redirect=true&ref_=s9_hps_bw_g421_i2
I have to say I am a complete ignoramus when it comes to camera but I can see that the Sony has got a much bigger zoom and more megapixels. Which one is better?
bird shot looks like you are trying to shoot into bright sun which is a common problem for most cameras
It's a shame Panasonic imposed such a strong colour style on it with no other colour tweaking options to get more natural colours.
Example of what's wrong with the colours on the Panasonic LF1: The green is too pale and yellowish and the ladybird which should be red has been shifted towards orange.
Example 2. The green leaves have a yellowish tinge and the red of the bird is "over cooked".
Example 3. LF1 makes certain shades of grass look really bad. The red Audi sign is shifted towards orange. The LF1 goes excessive on orange/autumnal colours.
http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Panasonic_Lumix_DMC_LF1/index.shtml
Also some sample photo's here, only 12.1MP :smirk:
https://www.flickr.com/groups/lf1/pool/
However, if I were in the market for a good camera that fits into a pocket; has a viewfinder; a very useful zoom range (ie, not ridiculously huge); a decently-sized small sensor without too many megapixels (which would be detrimental at such a size); and a good control ring UI, I might have gone for it (if I hadn’t just recently acquired a secondhand Sony RX10 at a ludicrously good trade-in price for some of my lesser-used gear, and the sober realisation that, yes, one really can have too many cameras).
Not doubting the deal, just curious. Must have one hell of a lens / sensor going for it, because you can pay less for 35X optical zoom at 20odd megapixels
- much faster lens, which means better results in low light and better image quality.
- larger sensor, meaning pixels less crowded (which causes "noise" in low light situations).
- more manual functionality, meaning you can adjust settings to get the best of the situation.
This camera will deliver better image quality than the TZ range. However, for most people the difference in quality is not significant, so the longer zoom becomes a more significant advantage.
regards
Elkay
small, raw, useful range, small evf for emergencies
Elkay
Both good but depends on your needs.
Not sure what price this was at launch in 2013 but assume it's on runout now as plenty of places discounting it, eg £154 at Argos.
Found it: RRP £379 at launch.
http://www.trustedreviews.com/panasonic-lumix-lf1-review