WAIT!!!!
You paid your contract off early so you can buy another phone????? Surely it would have made sense to buy a new phone anyway then?
TROLL!

If chucking money at your problems is your idea of a 'fix', then I guess you are well suited to being in the Apple hardware camp.

Apple being the same company that made iPod's obsolete by fitting a non-replaceable battery that was only designed to last 18 months. The same company that STILL only offers a 1 year warranty...when companies like Nokia/MS have been offering 2 year warranties for years now.

Willy waving about your new iPhone really won't get many brownie points on these forums. All it does is show that you would rather burn money than get a hardware fix. Mother nature doesn't like your type :wink:

Cold I would never have a windows phone again. I had so many problems with it I paid to finish my contract early so I could upgrade my phone!.

Such a nice phone and was tempted but the lack of most apps, even the most popular ones, put me off this phone.
Every couple of years Microsoft announce that the app issue will be getting better but unfortunately it never changes, they really need to devise some sort of app for running android applications like Bluestacks for PCs, then it will no longer be a problem...

Cold I would never have a windows phone again. I had so many problems with it I paid to finish my contract early so I could upgrade my phone!.

Better price but MS are never going to gain a foot hold with this level of pricing....

Good thing america is beta testing it.

They are clearly not smart enough to realise that MS/Nokia Lumia's have 2 year warranties. Leave them to waste their money unnecessarily :wink:

(Happy owner of a Lumia 800/620/820/920/3x 1020's and now a Blu Win HD LTE)

(Happy owner of a Lumia 800/620/820/920/3x 1020's and now a Blu Win HD LTE)

(myself 920,930, 1020, 1520)

Money not a issue I upgraded to a Apple 6s Plus. I told the guy in the shop what I was going to do with my Lumia when I got home. And I did! Stamped on and put it in the bin!

Torn between the risk of getting a second hand 1520 (which is supposed to be great for Windows 10) for about £200 or this. Continuum looks great but I doubt I'd use it.
http://www.windowscentral.com/how-does-new-microsoft-lumia-950xl-compare-lumia-1520

you've already proved above you are an idiot, now blocked!

Snap blocked! Yawn!

Blocked !

If chucking money at your problems is your idea of a 'fix', then I guess you are well suited to being in the Apple hardware camp.

Apple being the same company that made iPod's obsolete by fitting a non-replaceable battery that was only designed to last 18 months. The same company that STILL only offers a 1 year warranty...when companies like Nokia/MS have been offering 2 year warranties for years now.

Willy waving about your new iPhone really won't get many brownie points on these forums. All it does is show that you would rather burn money than get a hardware fix. Mother nature doesn't like your type :wink:

As above you always get one.

This is a stunning phone.

I had an android phone for several years after a WP7.5 and I'm planning to go back to windows.
Do you get the continuum dock for this? I thought that it is only for retailers listed on the MS store site...

Good price!! - now need Amazon to price match!!

Are buymobiles any good? Like to buy from somewhere that is easy to return to if i have a problem. Do we think the Continuum dock will be available if bough here??

I actually think amazon have sold out of the white pre-orders. only black left from them. probably won't price match, which is a shame.

Yeah, just noticed!

Hoping as soon as they go on general release next week they will get more in and pricematch. 2nd Dec is when buymobiles are expecting to have them. Happy to wait a couple more weeks as reading the forums, the Yanks are having a few minor teething issue with software.

Have been using beta windows 10 on my 1020 since February....i love it and can not wait for full release. Preordered 950xl at amazon and have seen the price drop 3 times already. Great price and thanks to OP

Using Lumia camera, and couldn't be happier. Crop and zoom for a super crisp pic

Native 10 will have microsoft cam, not Lumia cam. Sure I've read that Lumia is better?? [if you upgraded from 8.1 to 10 preview you keep Lumia cam]

Yep, still have Lumia. Would prefer Lumia over native (haven't used native but have read poor ratings)

*And avoid Apple :wink:

Well, yes, I was less than impressed with Apple. It wouldn't have cost them much, if anything, to keep me loyal. As it turned out, they don't care. Once you are out of the 12 month warranty or extended purchased warranty they don't want to know. Strictly speaking they are in their rights so I can't complain, but an obvious defect just as it goes over the 12 month warranty is poor. It's not like I was trying to blag a repair/replacement just before my contract was up,

Anyway, soon the sorry saga will be behind me and I am looking forward to my 950XL whilst I throughly enjoy my Surface Pro 4. Good luck anyone buying from Buymobiles, you will need it.

The Apple warranty page is quite informative;

http://www.apple.com/uk/legal/statutory-warranty/

I assume you've read it? If you haven't, then it would seem that BuyMobiles should be providing far more assistance than they are. What is the fault with the phone? You may be able to find some legal precedent regarding the particular fault (with someone that has been through the process under the EU statutory law). You could then file a small claims court proceeding against BuyMobiles. You can bet that they wouldn't want to be dragged through a legal wrangle - ESPECIALLY if legal precedent shows that your fault should be fixed...even outside of the 1 year warranty.

On a side note, it's disgraceful that Apple sell phones that are in 2 year contracts, yet only warranty them for half the period.

Thanks for the heads up on buymobile. Hope Amazon price match, although i'm trying to make myself wait till Xmas for my XL. Pressie to myself, and maybe 'another' price reduction! [watch it sell out till well into 2016.........]

Yes, thanks, I used info from the Apple link in my previous letters with Buymobiles. There has also been a recent update in the law:

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/about-us/how-citizens-advice-works/citizens-advice-consumer-work/the-consumer-rights-act-2015/

As,far as I tell, it doesn't really change much, other than look more recent.

The onus is still on me to prove the phone had a defect.

My position is a phone that develops a fault (not user damage) during a 24 month contract is not fit for purpose. I had the phone inspected by an Apple genius, they gave me a report saying the screen has an internal fault. Actually, Apple were very clever with the wording to not point blame to the phone being defective.

Interestingly, I took this opportunity to tryout Section 75 with my credit card company (Barclaycard). They initially were very helpful, but then said I need to provide an professional inspection report, indicating the nature of the fault etc etc.. So that is less than helpful. Keep that in mind if you ever try Sec 75 for something like this,

As it is.. I have just ticked the seeking expert witness box on the small claim paperwork. Yes, it's a small amount of money (£200) I am seeking.. But it has gone beyond that, Buymobiles have annoyed the **** out of me and it's been a while since I have been in court, I am keen to go again. I expect they will try settle 'on the court steps', as just turning up will cost them more than my claim.

*sigh*. So as an aside.. I pay extra attention to warranties now. Pun intended. :smiley:

so MS price matched this?

Would love to have this phone, but I just know the price will plummet like a stone as their previous high end hand sets did.

I don't agree with this at all. I've had all manners of phones and the only real reason you'd opt for an android/windows phone would either be price point or development. Apple optimise their phones to the hardware, so they run smoother and are generally much more reliable. It doesn't suit everyone and people choose the device that they want, for their own reasons. But simply dismissing a product like that shows that you are very narrow minded and misinformed. Still, I enjoyed my OnePlus, and I would recommend one to anyone.

Last roll of the dice for Microsoft I feel with Windows 10...hope developers start porting apps over.

My wife picked up a Grade A one for £150 just last month, I would say they have plummeted.

Such a nice phone and was tempted but the lack of most apps, even the most popular ones, put me off this phone.
Every couple of years Microsoft announce that the app issue will be getting better but unfortunately it never changes, they really need to devise some sort of app for running android applications like Bluestacks for PCs, then it will no longer be a problem...

You can take the phone into an Apple store and they will have to repair it, if it's only 12-13 months old.

Two things need to happen:
1. Microsoft need to start chucking their money around to get more app support (or allow android applications)
2. The public need to buy more Windows phones so there is a decent sized user base.

It could happen......

Did you call them or via livechat??

Much rather deal with MS direct as they have a no hassles return policy

Just spoke with them myself and they refuse to price match on new orders!

Spoke to MS on chat. You need to order with them, then when you receive the phone, call them and ask to pricematch. Have to be an agreed supplier though, which worries me.

Guess if i don't open the box, if they don't pricematch at £446 i can return it.

ps - read that a couple of people have had shipping confirmation from Argos for their XL's!

Bells. It was on live chat, but then after on the phone.


They do price match on pre orders - but you have to have an order in place. They did it live for me without me already having an order, but that was because they didn't forward the "chat" notes which I had a moan about.

Annoyingly the guy who took my order over the phone promised to forward the t&c which shows they do price match. That didn't turn up either. Luckily I do have case notes, so when I phoned back, it.was confirmed the Amazon price match was on my account and the girl added the new buymobiles.com match. I've no doubt it was done.

Told myself i'd wait till nearer Xmas...............my resolve is cracking!!! £446.99 is a good price [even if it will be £350 by New Year!!!]

I'm not convinced that will be the price for quite sometime.

On the app thing, is there not some emulation software that will allow IOS apps to be installed?

Yes, it's work in progress though. Called Project Islandwood: https://wmpoweruser.com/project-islandwood-explained-in-new-video/

I heard that Candy Crush was done using this, and this was a few months back on 8.1. Hoping it starts to explode once more W10 devices ship as it will work on the mobiles as well as PC's [and even Xbox One eventually].

yes I got my invite to the MS event in London tomorrow

Continuum doesnt work... the apps need to be compatible defeats the object. Bye bye microsoft and thats pcs too

I love my windows phone been using this Nokia 920 since it released and it's still going strong and to be honest the lack of apps really don't bother me as I don't use apps enough anyway even if I had an iPhone I still wouldn't im more of an Internet and Facebook and that's all I need for windows is just so fast and smooth so would never switch now.

Cheers op ordered this may as well give myself a wee upgrade since its close to Christmas and that :smiley:

I love my windows phone been using this Nokia 920 since it released and it's still going strong and to be honest the lack of apps really don't bother me as I don't use apps enough anyway even if I had an iPhone I still wouldn't im more of an Internet and Facebook and that's all I need for windows is just so fast and smooth so would never switch now.

Cheers op ordered this may as well give myself a wee upgrade since its close to Christmas and that :smiley:

Caved!!

Just pre-ordered with Microsoft at £529.99. Will ask them to price match with buymobiles @ £446.99 as soon as i get it. Went throigh TCB at 5% too, that would be nice if they paid out at £529!!

If they don't agree to refund the difference i will send it back. Seems MS are pretty good with returns, 30 days to send back if you don't like it!

Edit - TCB tracked at £22.30.

Heads up on the Sky app. They have just released a W10 version for Sky Germany! I guess they may trial it there before releasing over here, seen as it's the same company!

Thanks bells0, i wait with baited breathe ... Sky have been saying for over 3 years they will port to Windows Mobile if there was a requirement.... maybe... just maybe...

Ok.I have got a Nokia Lumia 930 and its garbage.Windows 10 needs to be game changer or this phone is getting chucked.Get this at your peril because you want to be different but after 6 months then i just wanted a phone that wasn't so much hard work

Don't do it!!!!

i am having the same problem with O2 and apple, £200 to fix the phone after 14 months, its people need to be aware that apple is only 12 months warranty not 2 years.

Actually, you are wrong about at least one thing. The whole Android app paradigm has been ditched from Windows Mobile. The Android subsystem was causing serious issues with all of the Insider builds. They have therefore focused on the 'Islandwood' app bridge for iOS (which I personally am v.pleased about. Don't need the Android cludge in the Windows store!).

Also, x86 programs will not run on the phone. The only apps that will run in Continuum mode are those that are 'universal'. There should be a great many of these in the near future - but at the moment, there aren't that many of them.

I will be picking up a 950 in due course as I personally think the technologies in these phones are fantastic. Shame that the design is so bland!



Why don't you sign up for Insider Preview and test Windows 10 Mobile for yourself. The Insider Preview is now running the same software version as has been released on the 950/XL. & it is a huge improvement over 8.1 (which I was actually v.happy with).

I would personally never switch to Android. The only OS I would move to is iOS - and that is prohibitively expensive and bland!

ooooooooooh...can feel the 930 price coming down..hope 02 refresh and quidco do the same combo like last year...ended up buying a brand new 925 for £50 in the end..happy days :wink:

Personally, have loved my 930 so far. Has been my first forage into WP, and it made me want to upgrade to the XL.

I does have a problem with the mic though, seems a common problem. As MS give a 2 year warranty, i will get it fixed when i get the XL and use it as a backup for nights on the beer and out on the MTB.

Not sure why people feel the need to come onto a thread and tell people not to buy?? The XL trumps an iphone hardware wise, and i'm confident the new OS will work well eventually. I was on the W10 preview for PC's and they have been very quick to sort new releases and bug patches.

I'm bailing and will wait for next model or first decent price drop. Not gonna be an early adaptor this time.

Deal heated for price.

I had few blackberry phones, some htc and xperias z. After that I got lumia 930. Yes it doesn't have so many apps but it was great. Now I'm saving for bb private or this one. I have to admit that my experience with Windows phone is good. Everybody should try and judge it on his own.

a billion Windows 10 devices will compel developers to build universal apps. ... Hahaha nobody buying the devices will compel Microsoft to sell them for a fiver like the 435 right before they go out of business. What you wrote is the most laughable fanboy **** I have ever written. Microsoft have lost the network effect its gone to android and ios

GSMArena have posted a pretty unbiased review of the 950:
http://www.gsmarena.com/microsoft_lumia_950-review-1347.php

No review for the 950XL yet tho.

My 950XL has just arrived. Its at home waiting to be played with. (It's from Microsoft - and with a price match from this which they are honouring.)

Nice!! Mine is out for delivery.

Did they pricematch buymobiles @ £446.99??

Hearing conflicting reports that some people are being refused a pricematch. Mine will be sent straight back if they dont agree. Which agent did you speak to??

£83 confirmed refund from MS to pricematch - brilliant.

Shame the phone is currently at the local collection point as my Wife was doing the school run......gutted!! Wont get to play till i can get there after the kids go to bed

Mine is showing as delivery due by 12th from Amazon ....(pre-ordered in October!)

Seems MS have messed their suppliers/distributors about a bit. Get their stock out and let their stockists have them a week late!!

Hope you get it sooner!

The US MS Store states they do not price match. So I'm curious to see the UK one apparently does.

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/DisplayHelpPaymentPricingPage/

Nice one mate. Got my refund no worries, had an email today confiming it too. Dock ordered too.

Happy days!! Do like Windows10, been rock solid for me so far. Let's hope the devs start on more universal apps!

In a MS chat now and being told MS do not pricematch :disappointed:

Weird, someone else on Windows Central forums was saying the same this morning. Wonder if they've stopped doing it as they had a deluge of people requesting refunds??

Well, I won't be buying from MS direct. To be honest, as much as I want the 950xl (my BLU just isn't performing well enough) I'm having trouble living with the price of it, even at £465 which is the pre-order price I have from Amazon. First world problems, eh? /rolleyes

Buy it from buymobiles direct at £446.99?

It is very good.......

Amazon have raised the price by .50p

I had the price promise a few weeks ago from the MS store, and they said they would action on despatch. This hasn't happened yet, so I contacted MS and now they are telling me they wont do it!!

Amazon Italy cheaper?

Just contacted buymobiles.net and they are meant to be receiving these in their stock tomorrow and therefore should be out for delivery on Wednesday. Fingers crossed...

Amazon UK are now saying
Still showing as ETA 12th on my pre-order- and the actual status has changed to "Arriving 12th" rather than expected.

I was initially very happy with it, especially for the money. But over time it's come to be incredibly frustrating. The camera doesn't focus and videos are worse - the focus just 'hunts' in-and-out all the time. The screen is unresponsive - I'll be typing a message and half the letters have been missed, so it's just a bunch of auto-corrected nonsense.

My Amazon order also says arriving 12th, whereas JL say within 14 days. :disappointed:

I have an email from Amazon saying the release date for the 950XL has "been changed by the supplier", its now 22 December :disappointed:

SNAP....

... MS dont want to price match and are happy for customers to buy via 3rd party

I've not had any email from MS (though she did say it had been done) and the continuum arrived just now via UPS

Just had first play with continuum. Not impressed. Very fee apps actually work with it.

What update?

Go to software update, should be one waiting. Downloading mine now. The preview testers had this last week. Now official for the 950's.

What's new in build 10586.29

-You will see additional improvements in upgrade experience, including devices with limited free space, map rendering on update, and RCS enabled device settings.
-Improved application backwards compatibility for Windows Phone 8.1 Silverlight applications.
-Edge performance and stability has been improved. Auto-completion has been updated to allow user to more easily edit the end of the URL in the address bar.
-Additional Bluetooth stability improvements.
-We have resolve issues on switching the active cellular connectivity profile on Dual SIM devices.


My battery seems a lot better so far this morning!

just an idea to those guys who have the 950 XL.... get a quote from CEX https://uk.webuy.com/ on selling it in to them. I worked for them many years ago and they would give premium prices for products prior to the release just to one of the first companies to have it. If they had a phone 12 days before its uk release that will retail at £529.. i am guessing they would pay around the £600 price mark for it. (then buy the phone new on the 22nd December again from Amazon or Carphone for £469)

Another wee update from Amazon. The phone will apparently now be delivered on the 14th. They seem to have magiced some stock from somewhere.

Yep, my tracking is saying

Enjoy chaps!!

arrived, updating, loading all apps and Free Display Dock ordered

I received my 950XL from Microsoft last week, updated the Lumina offers app and have now received my display dock on Thursday. Havent opened the box, looks ok, not too fussed about the dock .. yet.

Phone is great.. the camera is stunning. Upgradable memory and easily replaceable battery. My iphone 5s 64Gig is a DISTANT MEMORY.

Havent quite optimised the surface pro 4 - 950xl - band2 "all in" microsoft experience.. but that will come in time.
So far, pleased.. thanks Microsoft, and **** you Apple and Buymobiles.net.

Terrible customer service from BOTH companies. Good luck and merry xmas.

Am using my band with the phone and it works well. Text and emails coming via the band is cool, haven't got Cortana and phone operating with band, but am pleased with the interaction so far. Connected my phone to pc today for the first time and like the quick and easy way to move files from phone to pc and the reverse

Been using my 950xl for a wile and its seriously amazing had no problems as of yet too which is a bonus. That camera is crazy how perfect the photos come out even in the pitch black as my 920 wasnt too good with night time photos. Highly recommend it too anyone looking for a super fast and everything is customizable phone. (bit gimmicky but the eye scanner is pretty good haha)

Totally agree!