Smart Thermostat - I've been looking at getting one of these, normal price is around £170 without installation.
Also available for £189 with installation (normal price £249)
All comments (53)
urban_i
24 Dec 15#1
I guessing you have to get an gas engineer to install these? Or has anyone done a DIY on these?
Bendown to urban_i
24 Dec 151#2
They are electric so no gas engineer, fitted a nest easily enough myself
bomberman to urban_i
24 Dec 15#3
Have a look on Youtube
jeffjack to urban_i
24 Dec 15#10
The first engineer they sent couldn't wire it into our boiler, the second could. I think I could have done the same if I had have read the boiler manual.
but now, I'd go Nest instead.
MisterHDUK
24 Dec 151#4
if you've got a timer thermostat already, it's a 2 minute face replacement job. no gas qualifications required. But otherwise a spark could do in 15 mins. I've got the original. Nest etc might be better for future home automation and with zones, but this is simple and easy.
kingpsyon
24 Dec 15#5
A lot of people have said that! Can you give me the search you put in? All I can find are videos of "what will happen on the day" and "how to use" videos!
cannot see current temp at a glance, without interacting with the damm thing
TheUrbis
24 Dec 15#7
Does anyone know if this version can be used without hot water? I have a combi boiler.
Also, can the thermostat be wired to get rid of the need for batteries like Nest can?
allginger to TheUrbis
24 Dec 151#9
There is a heating only version, same price
jeffjack to TheUrbis
24 Dec 15#14
we have one on a combi, works fine.
the remote use batteries but we never use the remote, have never replaced batteries in a year (I don't think it's essential? We control via app)
bagga212
24 Dec 15#8
nope
jeffjack
24 Dec 15#11
to be fair though, the Hive has worked perfectly for us, the app is now great.
sme24185
24 Dec 15#12
I rang earlier this month and bristish gas state they fit for £80 as long as its from a seller they supply to and not the bay.
sme24185
24 Dec 15#13
Isnt there a £10 off if you sign up to prime?
sme24185
24 Dec 15#15
Im looking at getting this but how long do they last?
jeffjack
24 Dec 151#16
I haven't replaced the batteries in ours in over a year.. never use the control though.
crazy786
24 Dec 15#17
a little off topic but does anyone know of any of kit that cant be fitted to our heating system to create heating zones. Currently have a combi boiler with a thermostat. Thanks
SFconvert to crazy786
24 Dec 151#25
To create zones you'd need to pretty much replumb your central heating. Basically you'd need to create separate circuits controlled with a manifold so a controller can direct the hot water to whatever zones you require. A friend built his own house and each radiator was on its own circuit connected to a heat store so he could control each radiator independently, though it is a huge job to retrofit such a setup to your house.
A cheaper way of doing a similar thing is to fit electronic thermostatic valves to your radiators and set them up for the times you want certain rooms / areas heated (ie you'd set the bedroom rads to only come on in the morning and evening). You can get such valves for about £30-£40 each, they are battery operated, I've seen them on HUKD before!
Mr No to crazy786
24 Dec 152#27
Check out Honeywell Evohome, it's more expensive but it's streets ahead of Hive and Nest.
It totally changed the way we used our heating. You can monitor and control temperatures in each room/zone.
No drawbacks for me love everything about it.Ignore the negatives the same people who probably had the same phone for the last 10 years.Paid £199 with installation on the black Friday event and very pleased.
arjun311
24 Dec 15#20
Alot nicer look than the original one.
I went for nest when it was between the original hive and nest.
iron1899
24 Dec 15#21
I'd defo go for this over nest. looks like they're going to have a great eco system with new products coming next year. https://www.hivehome.com/new-products
izzyaya
24 Dec 15#22
Does this need a monthly subscription cost? Or is it simply buy, fit and it's good to go
izzyaya to izzyaya
25 Dec 15#37
any1?
kdigit to izzyaya
25 Dec 15#39
You
Coney
24 Dec 15#23
It's been £179 with installation for a while. If you don't feel confident, wait for it to come back down and get that instead
Disco Dave
24 Dec 15#24
Heating only is the same price (combi boilers)
cartzuk
24 Dec 15#26
Also consider Tado, I'm running the beta app which really brings the features up to speed.
horstachio
24 Dec 151#28
I have evohome, it's superb. Easy to install and the TRVs make it easier without having to replumb. Fitted myself and having control of every room is superb. Way better than nest etc.
scooby555
24 Dec 15#29
Anyone know if this is compatible with a basic combi boiler setup, no thermostats, just timer function + boost. Just thinking future proof and why not have the extra function availability for the future, or do you have to specifically buy the other "heating" one for that?
Any advice gratefully received?
sme24185
24 Dec 15#30
Is the prime code still ok to use £10 one?
ruheluddin86
24 Dec 15#31
Hive or Nest!?
getmore4less to ruheluddin86
25 Dec 15#35
There are other options not just these 2.
I put in Owl. heating & hot water
Honeywell has been mentioned and there are others by the main heating guys.
cityfais to ruheluddin86
26 Dec 15#46
I have both, one in the office on a combi and one at home also on a combi.
Nest looks nicer but Hive is essentially the same but with a better install (BG engineer). Hive uses batteries which is rather silly. However the geo feature on hive (locates you when you're leaving/arriving using the app) is great. Hive also cover the old square thermostat position, no need for an ugly plastic plate. Otherwise VERY similar so price is key.
thermomonkey
24 Dec 15#32
I have used a system in my last 2 houses from Conrad. In each room you put a thermostat on the wall, and you program different temps for different times of the day. You replace the normal valve on your radiator by something which talks to the thermostats (wirelessly). The thermostats talk to a control unit which is plugged in to your boiler. If all rooms are up to temp the system turns off. Its fantastic, all rooms are kept at the right temp at the right time of the day.
I'm willing to help people further if they wish to know more.
SFconvert
24 Dec 15#33
I must say I hadn't heard of that type of system, is it expensive? How long do the batteries last in the valves?
weallneedhelp
25 Dec 15#34
That sounds a brilliant idea. Any idea on costs for a four bedroom house.?
jamgin
25 Dec 15#36
The poor car is sat in a chilly 10 centigrade garage.
Must be a POLO bear...
Veitas200700
25 Dec 151#38
No monthly subscription required
AsianDiscount
25 Dec 15#40
Having used both. I prefer Nest as its just a bit more refined.
ruheluddin86 to AsianDiscount
26 Dec 15#48
Care to elaborate? Which version of Nest?
izzyaya
25 Dec 15#41
Thanks, Ive got a Potterton Combi Boiler - Take it i need the HEATING ONLY version of this then?
izzyaya
25 Dec 15#42
Having said that - cant seem to find a Heating only version WITH installation
bma1445 to izzyaya
25 Dec 151#44
That's because the only difference is the programmer connections - and the installer brings that bit with him.
tom6195
25 Dec 15#43
Would this work with a Worcester combi boiler? I already have a RF thermostat.
Sumpte
26 Dec 151#45
Honestly, if you're spending around this money - you may as well get a Nest which looks and works a lot better.
izzyaya
26 Dec 15#47
Understood - thanks :smiley:
ruheluddin86
26 Dec 15#49
I think you meant 'Nest' on first point (geo feature)? Don't you have to plug the Nest into a socket? How long does the battery for Hive last?
thermomonkey
27 Dec 15#50
Sorry for the slow reply, festive celebrations etc. Well the room controllers I have are the fht 8's. However they don't seem to have many any more and they also don't have the control unit (i think it was fht 8w). Not sure if they are out of stock, stopped being produced or have been superseded. I will try and investigate.
Give or take it was £60 per room (some rooms have 2 radiators controlled by 1 thermostat) and about £90 for the boiler control unit. Of course you don't need them in every room... e.g. the utility or downstairs toilet.
thermomonkey
27 Dec 15#51
Oh and the batteries last a few years!
ruheluddin86 to thermomonkey
30 Dec 15#53
Don't you have to plug the Nest into a socket?
Ricky
29 Dec 15#52
Appears to have gone back up in price unfortunately :disappointed:
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Also available for £189 with installation (normal price £249)
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but now, I'd go Nest instead.
I want to know how to connect my HW and CH.
https://www.hivehome.com/faqs/help-using-hive-2/109203-thermostat/759570
Biggest flaw,
cannot see current temp at a glance, without interacting with the damm thing
Also, can the thermostat be wired to get rid of the need for batteries like Nest can?
the remote use batteries but we never use the remote, have never replaced batteries in a year (I don't think it's essential? We control via app)
A cheaper way of doing a similar thing is to fit electronic thermostatic valves to your radiators and set them up for the times you want certain rooms / areas heated (ie you'd set the bedroom rads to only come on in the morning and evening). You can get such valves for about £30-£40 each, they are battery operated, I've seen them on HUKD before!
It totally changed the way we used our heating. You can monitor and control temperatures in each room/zone.
You can integrate with IFTTT too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSxaFN6ZmFw
I went for nest when it was between the original hive and nest.
Any advice gratefully received?
I put in Owl. heating & hot water
Honeywell has been mentioned and there are others by the main heating guys.
Nest looks nicer but Hive is essentially the same but with a better install (BG engineer). Hive uses batteries which is rather silly. However the geo feature on hive (locates you when you're leaving/arriving using the app) is great. Hive also cover the old square thermostat position, no need for an ugly plastic plate. Otherwise VERY similar so price is key.
I'm willing to help people further if they wish to know more.
Must be a POLO bear...
Give or take it was £60 per room (some rooms have 2 radiators controlled by 1 thermostat) and about £90 for the boiler control unit. Of course you don't need them in every room... e.g. the utility or downstairs toilet.