With the weather predicted to turn much colder, may be a good idea to have a spare portable plug in heater, and for £12.99 you can't go wrong with a 2KW convector heater.It has a thermostat, so of course isn't running continuously, and can also be switched to a lower 1KW setting.Whatever side of the fence you sit on regards heating efficiency, one things for sure these heat up almost instantly, and will soon warm up a modest size room, and great for a conservatory.If you have economy 7, why not have this on a timer to run overnight which will build up heat in the room when the temperature is at it's lowest, and then will be easier to maintain during the day, but that's up to you.
Anyway, a good price for an effective heating solution.The picture, isn't the exact model, but looks the same.
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tonikeys to Tanweeralqarni
10 Dec 1511#7
Physics fail
C7tyBlue5
10 Dec 154#5
Plug it in and watch your electric meter spin!!
89quidyoucantgowrong
10 Dec 154#4
These are good for people with solar panels. Run 'em on a timer during the day in winter to put heat into the house and use up that surplus instead of pouring it into the grid. Match the heat output to the worst case scenario energy generated on a cloudy winter day. Save money on your central heating :wink:
cruisecars to C7tyBlue5
10 Dec 153#6
yawn
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Gogetit009
10 Dec 15#1
Link please ?
hafizpatel to Gogetit009
10 Dec 15#3
No link. Instore
Tanweeralqarni
10 Dec 151#2
wont be cheap on the bills. Should get oil heater instead. more efficient and should save more on bills.
tonikeys to Tanweeralqarni
10 Dec 1511#7
Physics fail
stanlenin to Tanweeralqarni
11 Dec 15#16
I really hope you are a child. Otherwise your lack of simple knowledge is astonishing.
89quidyoucantgowrong
10 Dec 154#4
These are good for people with solar panels. Run 'em on a timer during the day in winter to put heat into the house and use up that surplus instead of pouring it into the grid. Match the heat output to the worst case scenario energy generated on a cloudy winter day. Save money on your central heating :wink:
C7tyBlue5
10 Dec 154#5
Plug it in and watch your electric meter spin!!
cruisecars to C7tyBlue5
10 Dec 153#6
yawn
Tanweeralqarni
10 Dec 15#8
Care to explain?
Byron78
10 Dec 151#9
What's 2KW in cash?
About 28p an hour ish for most folks I'd have thought.
So yeah.... if you have this on for 6 hours a day (or overnight) you'll have almost spent your £12.99 purchase price on electric in the first week.
But most won't use it like that. I doubt many will use it for much other than a quick blast of heat now and again.
blaser to Byron78
10 Dec 151#13
There is also a thermostat setting, so it will turn the heating element on/off depending on the temperature. I have a branded convection heater and if I leave it on for 6 hours, the heating element is only powered up for 2 hours over the on/off intervals, i.e. 4 units of electricity. Great for heating small to medium size rooms in my experience.
lloyddowell
10 Dec 15#10
heat for the price.....but the cost of this isnt the cost of the purchase....its the cost of running it
BeerDrinker
10 Dec 15#11
Electric heaters are generally 100% efficient
Tanweeralqarni
10 Dec 151#12
I'll be honest. A watt is a watt in terms of heat output. However,oil heaters advantage is the method of radiation. Simply, it holds the heat and radiates the heat slowly, not loosing most the heat to the ceiling compared to the convector heater. Ultimately its personal choice.
My opinion
pibpob
10 Dec 152#14
"Method of radiation"? They both give off most of their heat by convection, radiator being a misnomer.
Physics fail 2: it only "holds the heat" because it takes longer to warm up in the first place, as opposed to the instant heat provided by a non-oil heater, therefore making it more useless because you have to anticipate switching it on and off in order to make the best use of the heat.
SaturnSymbolism2012
10 Dec 15#15
I have 2 of these, perfect, when you come in from the cold, gives my large lounge a blast for 5 mins, not only does it take the chill off, it becomes toasty warm, then give another 5 mins blast 30mins later, depends on how insulated your rooms are of course, but they are very cheap to run when using properly.
HEAT lol
ande1979
11 Dec 15#17
these heaters break easily from experience
Toxic_Waste to ande1979
11 Dec 15#27
Yep, took one of these to the recycling centre a couple of months ago. Had it a couple of years with hardly any use.
Singlung2099
11 Dec 15#18
Another epic fail
There is nothing that is 100% efficient especially when it comes to heating and electric at that.
seanmoran374
11 Dec 15#19
I love these efficiency discussions. I think people get confused when comparing electric heating vs using gas central heating and even oil heating ( one where you go and have a oil tank and burn it).
Can someone who thinks an oil filled radiator is more efficient than a wire radiator ( all this one us passing current down a resitive material) tell me what difference and why?. out of curioisity more than anything how people can convince themselves of something.
simonbrown
11 Dec 151#20
I prefer the ones with fans. They warm the room quicker and you can direct the heat into a particular area.
Or to put it another way, I have one of these and it takes forever to warm a room. The heat just goes straight up.
BeerDrinker
11 Dec 152#21
I'd be interested in your explanation as to why you think that.
LM290
11 Dec 151#22
I think people are getting confused with economy and efficiency.
Oil heaters are generally more economic because they retain their heat when switched off (good for thermostat setting), but in terms of efficiency there is probably not much in it. Loss in efficiency is usually down to two things, noise and heat. In this case causing heat is the objective so in theory the less efficient it is, the more efficient it is at producing heat.
Personally I would go for an oil heater, not only from an economy view but from a safety one, but its a decent price none-the-less.
pibpob
11 Dec 15#23
Erm yes there is - it's called physics. Conservation of energy. Didn't you do GCSE physics or have you just forgotten it? The "inefficiencies" you are getting confused about result in heat generation, but when you need the heat, it is not wasted and therefore not an inefficiency.
pibpob
11 Dec 15#24
Why does having a larger thermal mass (which means they take longer to start producing heat in the first place) make them more economic? The only way they can be more economic is if they give out less heat overall, which can be achieved with any type of heater by using a smaller version or turning the thermostat down.
golfie
11 Dec 151#25
I have one if these and can confirm it's 100% efficient.
ipsa
11 Dec 15#26
Hot .
89quidyoucantgowrong
11 Dec 151#28
Electric heaters, oil filled or convector are more efficient than gas central heating with radiators. The problem is that electricity is about five times more expensive than gas. Unless you have an air or ground source heat pump based central heating system (which can reach efficiencies of as much as 400%, but less in colder weather), gas is always cheaper. It amazes me that electricity is so much more expensive than gas, considering that the gas has to be physically transported to our homes. I think the loss in generation and transmission for electricity is somewhere around 65% i.e 1kw of gas burned at a power station would supply 650w of electricity to the home. Electricity shouldn't really be much more than double the price of gas, even taking into account generation costs.
Mjm9691
11 Dec 15#29
Halogen heater is the most cost effective. 1200w/800w/400 settings. I use it on 400w and I can say that it's heat is equivalent to the 2000w convector heater and only uses 400 watts. You can easily buy this for around £13. I also have the convector heater which has not been used for 3 years now. I would suggest not to buy this heater as it will cost heavily.
blaser to Mjm9691
11 Dec 151#30
What is it with electric heaters that makes people break the laws of physics. Electric heaters are all very efficient let's say 99% for the sake of argument. So a 400W halogen cannot output more heat than a 2000W convection heater if ran over the same period of time.
pibpob to Mjm9691
11 Dec 151#31
If you want to get radiant heat in a small area in a room where the air is otherwise cold, then halogen will probably save you money. However, that's not what some people want.
vixxi
11 Dec 15#32
Great price, nice to help keep you toasty
workinkam
11 Dec 15#33
Have some heat...
campbellcabs
12 Dec 15#34
What a bunch of boring **** there are on this thread. Its like walking into a science convention (or should that be convection). All standing proud, correcting the grammar and questioning the education of each other. Its a thread about a heater. Just vote hot or cold and don't be an arrogant, pompous tool. Oh here comes the backlash.. about how such comments are warranted to provide necessary facts to those debating on buying such an item. Sure go try that approach in Argos instead and hopefully you'll get lamped.
pibpob to campbellcabs
12 Dec 151#35
Unfortunately it's not boring if it prevents people wasting money buying heaters because they think their running costs will go down. They were only required because someone started posting fiction in the first place. Don't you think that's useful advice?
I also see no-one correcting grammar on this thread. Are you letting your prejudice get the better of you?
campbellcabs
12 Dec 15#36
Perhaps not questioning their grammar but rather their English and education. 'Economic, don't you mean efficient', 'Didn't you go to school?' 'Physics fail' etc... How many of us here aced at Physics or even remember most of it? £12 for an electric heater is good value. Those looking out for one will no doubt know how to use it. If only comments on here offered opinion on the post rather than fingerpointing and criticism of other people.
pibpob
12 Dec 151#37
True, they were a bit harsh, but no doubt borne out of exasperation at the basic misunderstandings about electric heaters which always come up when they are advertised. The second posting really had to be challenged because it is patently untrue. Otherwise, people would spend more money on oil-filled radiators in the mistaken belief that they would cost less to run. It's a shame that so many people are ignorant about this and will be losing money as a result, in just the same way that the life skill of financial management is absent from so many - just look at the confusion in the recent thread about a regular savings account from Nationwide.
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Anyway, a good price for an effective heating solution.The picture, isn't the exact model, but looks the same.
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About 28p an hour ish for most folks I'd have thought.
So yeah.... if you have this on for 6 hours a day (or overnight) you'll have almost spent your £12.99 purchase price on electric in the first week.
But most won't use it like that. I doubt many will use it for much other than a quick blast of heat now and again.
My opinion
Physics fail 2: it only "holds the heat" because it takes longer to warm up in the first place, as opposed to the instant heat provided by a non-oil heater, therefore making it more useless because you have to anticipate switching it on and off in order to make the best use of the heat.
HEAT lol
There is nothing that is 100% efficient especially when it comes to heating and electric at that.
Can someone who thinks an oil filled radiator is more efficient than a wire radiator ( all this one us passing current down a resitive material) tell me what difference and why?. out of curioisity more than anything how people can convince themselves of something.
Or to put it another way, I have one of these and it takes forever to warm a room. The heat just goes straight up.
Oil heaters are generally more economic because they retain their heat when switched off (good for thermostat setting), but in terms of efficiency there is probably not much in it. Loss in efficiency is usually down to two things, noise and heat. In this case causing heat is the objective so in theory the less efficient it is, the more efficient it is at producing heat.
Personally I would go for an oil heater, not only from an economy view but from a safety one, but its a decent price none-the-less.
I also see no-one correcting grammar on this thread. Are you letting your prejudice get the better of you?