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WD Elements Desktop External Hard Drive - 5TB USB 3.0 / USB 2.0 £89.99! @ Currys / PC World
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goonertillidie
23 Nov 15
Bargain price for a 5TB External HDD

Blurb

Store large volumes of files on the 5 TB Western Digital Elements Desktop External Hard Drive, featuring USB 3.0 technology for fast transfer rates.

Large, fast external storage

The 5 TB of drive space allows you to store photos, videos, songs, projects and other documents comfortably.

The WD Elements Hard Drive has both USB 3.0 and USB 2.0 technology for maximum connective flexibility. Enjoy incredibly fast transfer rates for even the largest files with USB 3.0, helping you stay productive.

This hard drive includes a free trial of WD SmartWare Pro automatic backup software.

Helps your computer perform better

Connecting the WD Elements External Hard Drive to your PC help you to free up space on its internal hard drive.

You'll be able to transfer and back up to the drive so that your computer runs smoother and faster. It's formatted for NTFS and is compatible with Windows 8, 7, Vista or XP. You'll also be able to reformat it for Mac.

Available for delivery from PCWorld ebay store here : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WD-Elements-Desktop-External-Hard-Drive-5TB-USB-3-0-2-0-Black-Windows-Mac-/121816373568?hash=item1c5cd25940:g:hCMAAOSwLzdWSds6

The above is for those who cannot collect locally

- danskis
Top comments
BigDave to Orcinus_orca
23 Nov 15 39 #87
Guess what your cloud data is ultimately stored on. THAT'S RIGHT!
crofter
23 Nov 15 10 #84
Nice price - ordered a couple from the Currys Ebay site as I fancied paypal and 2 weeks to pay it ... :sunglasses:

Anybody not getting home delivery options on the Currys site get on the ebay deal ...:smirk:
Spark
23 Nov 15 10 #33
A couple of years ago, people said that about 2TB drives but nobody thinks twice about using those now.
Latest comments (387)
losimagic
23 Nov 15 #46
Do these power down on idle? otherwise the lifespan could be severely shortened
lordminty to losimagic
19 Dec 15 #387
​If its a WD Green then it will.
lordminty
19 Dec 15 #386
​No its not, its 5TB - 5 terabyte (10¹² bytes) = 4.547473508865 terabyte
rastbury
18 Dec 15 #385
Yeah i know - but alot of those stories i found were over 3 years old. so i assume WD would hasve changed something by then.

anyone else with these new drives getting crazy high load count???
popoyaya
18 Dec 15 #384
I guess it's only an issue if using in a server, which I won't. Horror stories of people racking up half a million load cycles in a few weeks.
rastbury
18 Dec 15 #383
I kept an eye on my Load Cycle and after 25 days of normal usage it is only at 346... its rated at 300,000 limit - so i'll only be clocking up ~5000 per year. Just keep an eye on your load count and see if its a problem for you.
popoyaya
17 Dec 15 #382
Have you actually managed to run wdidle3 with an external drive? I've booted into dos on a usb stick but wdidle3 doesn't recognise my WD HD, even though it's connected via USB. I've scoured the internet and everyone says the HD has to be connected by sata. There's no way of running it with an external drive.
fishmaster
9 Dec 15 #381
​Why would you lose anything if you have a backup? If you don't well that's your loss.
agent_c
29 Nov 15 #380
I just got one of these 5tb this morning (Sunday 29th) from pc world in Bury!
ste1975
29 Nov 15 #379
It is likely most will get green drives as they are being fazed out by WD and replaced with the new blue version. If you get red, then that's a bonus.
JockTodd
28 Nov 15 #376
Could it be that the easy way to identify the colour of the drive within the caddy is from the 5TB sticker colour on the front of the packaging?....I have got 2 greens both with green 5TB stickers on the box......post/photo above from Azza1 has received 2 blues with black/blue looking 5TB sticker on the packaging........anyone else noticed this?......
delgado to JockTodd
28 Nov 15 #377
It could be, my blue also has the black/dark grey sticker. I'm sure I've read that WD are looking in future to replace green drives with blue drives. It may be that the blue drives are newer stock and eventually all externals will have blue drives in them as the greens run out of stock and are phased out.
rastbury to JockTodd
28 Nov 15 #378
My box had green "5tb" logo and had a green drive inside
delgado
28 Nov 15 #375
I decided to keep the Blue drive as it was still fairly quiet (the normal clicks and grinding noises are louder than the green drives but not too bad). Happy to say that in my Fractal Design R5 case that has some sound dampening, I don't really hear the drive being accessed at all. Sounds no louder than the green drives when in my case.

I changed the head parking time from 8 seconds to 300 seconds using wdidle3. Also, I did my green drives while I was at it. All of them (mixture of 2TB, 3TB and 4TB) were all set to 8 seconds so changed them all to 300 seconds too.
huangxq2
28 Nov 15 #374
I understand your point.

I dislike Seagate and like WD red and black, which is why I did not go for 5TB Seagate at the same price, and choose WD.

Now I received a faulty WD which need to return for refund. And both deals are gone.
BigYoSpeck
28 Nov 15 #373
How many people from here ended up buying these? There's a percentage of faults from any manufacturer.
huangxq2
28 Nov 15 #372
It is making constant small noise and vibrations which is what I expect and nothing wrong with that.

The problem I have is that in additon to the normal noise, every 5 or 10 seconds it makes a louder sound like scratching on the wall, at the same time it shakes a lot harder. I do not consider this is normal.

All my 3 x 4TB Hitachi DX3, 3 x 4TB Seagate Expansion, 1 x 2TB WD only do normal noise and vibriation, not the scratching.

The scratching sound sounds like what people refer as "click of death". I am returning it, not taking my chances.

I am unhappy with WD, cannot believe its product straight out of box does that.
easywicked
28 Nov 15 #371
Are these suitable for a CCTV DVR?
Azza1
28 Nov 15 #370
My two arrived this morning. Both Blue - WD50EZRZ. Ran wdidle3 and disabled, one is in my NAS at the moment then I'll stick the other in once the parity check is done.

http://i.imgur.com/R5S8juch.jpg
revolver31
23 Nov 15 #11
Cheers op ordered 2, there is talk that these maybe wd reds, I hope so and I hope I can remove the drives.
davem to revolver31
23 Nov 15 #15
where's this talk from ? :smiley:
pheonixblaise1 to revolver31
28 Nov 15 #369
Hi could I get the product code on the receipt so I can search through the stores.
BigYoSpeck
27 Nov 15 #368
That sounds like the heads parking. I could hear mine doing it while they were still in the USB caddy. It didn't sound defective to my ears and obviously without hearing yours it's tough to tell if it's the same noise.

Despite the rubber bushings they are loud in the caddy. Whoosh, grind, whoosh, clunk, whoosh, grind constantly. Once cracked open and in a PC they are definitely quieter but I wouldn't call them silent. Putting a 7200rpm drive in the caddy gives some perspective though as that is even louder than the WD drives were.
huangxq2
27 Nov 15 #367
When I received mine yesterday, open box, impressed with the look.

Connect to a computer, then realise it make a certain loud clicking noise every few or 10 seconds, and it shakes a lot. I can feel my table is shaking.

I think I have a bad one. I am going to return it.

I don't trust a drive which make that kind noise.

Has anyone experienced the same problem?
delgado
27 Nov 15 1 #366
Mine's a blue which is a little frustrating as I wanted a green (I want to put it in a near-silent PC and apparently the greens are quieter). Will have to try to test the noise difference as I have other green drives. Would even consider sending it back if it's noisy as I don't really want to use it externally.
BigYoSpeck
27 Nov 15 #365
Bingo. Which is why the eggs in a basket analogy doesn't work with data. If I can have a copy of the eggs then it makes sense to just have them in the one basket rather than several baskets each multiplying the chance of a single failure.

I don't need redundancy for old episodes of Star Gate, not when realistically it's like a 4% chance of losing them.

My music library is on the home storage and a USB stick in my car, worse comes to the worse it's also up on Google Music though I'd want it all back in FLAC if something happened.

I've got maybe 30gb of irreplaceable data, and a combination of nested cloud storage and a back up external drive covers all that.
Siilver
23 Nov 15 #66
any item can fail. it can be 8gb or 10tb. they all can fail. i was always told your better having two 500gb over 1tb drive, or far smaller back in the day. but if one fails you still lose data sorry to tell you. thats why you back up. the size doesn't matter
Mecoconuts to Siilver
23 Nov 15 #67
Of course the size matters ......the bigger it is the more you have to lose or re-backup ... !

5TB is NOT a small amount of data !
Rich44 to Siilver
27 Nov 15 #364
​Wrong if you buy two drives you might spread the data but you double your exposure by increasing the number of drives. In that scenario really you want 2 drives from different manufacturers then mirror them. Just having two drives and spreading your risk means you're more likely to encounter a fault
Rich44
27 Nov 15 #363
​Maybe you should look at how you're handling them or where you're buying from. I haven't had a drive fail on me for at least 5 years now if not longer. I've had a 2tb, 1tb and 500gb drives in my microserver for 5+ years. Before that I was a field engineer fixing epos, PCs etc and the only drives that would fail were old ones, anything with new drives in lasted years and years and epos machines are switched on 24/7 usually with no power management so spinning all that time too.

You're either seriously unlucky, buy from dodgy shop, have dodgy couriers, turnover hundreds of drives a year or being ham fisted (no disrespect intended lol)
edwardandtubs
27 Nov 15 #362
Got mine, its a Blue, manufactured date of Oct 2015 and from Malaysia.

I've popped it out of the case ready to go in my NAS server and have placed an old drive (1TB) into the empty case. Trouble is Windows is recognising it as a 5tb drive and not 1TB. Anyway of fixing this???
BigYoSpeck
27 Nov 15 #361
Yeah Windows will still spin it down if set to do so as it's a different mechanism.
Monzer
27 Nov 15 #360
Thanks. I hate to ask such a newbie question, but am I correct in thinking that if I did disable rather than extend the firmware timeout on the internal drives, I can still turn these drives off using energy management in windows, and by doing so windows would still safely park the drives? I will likely change the external 5TB to 300 seconds but if windows energy management can take control internally, I will disable the firmware timeout on the internal blues and let windows manage things.
Shonk
27 Nov 15 1 #359
Disable does actually disable

I got stung a few years ago and had a drive with 2.1 million parks in 12 months
has hardly moved since i disabled it

11/05/12
193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 001 001 000 Old_age Always - 2146839
27/11/15
193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 001 001 000 Old_age Always - 2148375
1536 Parks in 3.5 Years
rexxyic4
26 Nov 15 #350
Mine are both blue manufactured Oct 15, but interestingly one manufactured in Thailand and one in Malaysia. I don't know if it's still the case, but some years ago it was suggested the Thailand ones tended to be more problematic.

Anyway, checked both with wdidle and both were set to 8 secs for head parking, so adjusted to 300 secs with no issues.
Monzer to rexxyic4
27 Nov 15 1 #358
In my experience the Thailand drives are the best since that is where most hard drives are made, but this is anecdotal.

In case anyone is still reading this thread, if the drive is going to be used in a desktop or externally for storage, the default 8 seconds is probably ok, but disabling or setting to the maximum (300 seconds) will likely be better. It is my understanding (from what I have read elsewhere) that disabling doesn't completely disable but sets the timeout to 62 minutes. Anyone verify?

If you intend to pull the blues or greens for use in a NAS it is wise to check what the timeout is and disable it or set it to 300 seconds.

wdidle3 is included on UBCD:

http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html

The below thread is a good thread, though there is some conflicting info regarding blues, but wdidle3 will presumably report whether these have timeout enabled or not:

https://forums.freenas.org/index.php?threads/hacking-wd-greens-and-reds-with-wdidle3-exe.18171/

I plan on using my 5TB WD Elements drive (green) as an external and will attempt to check the timeout today and change to 300 seconds if necessary. Apparently some people have bought blues and found these have 8 second timeouts!

I will check the internal blues I have at the same time today and change these to 300 seconds also if necessary.
gavin1
27 Nov 15 #357
Another Green here too dated 15th Aug 2015
TechGreek
26 Nov 15 #356
Just been told
I received confirmation and a date for pick up on Tuesday .What a cow boy outfit .

Dear Customer,

We wanted to let you know that due to a technical issue on our website, the Western Digital ELEMENTS 5TB Hard Drive has been oversold . As a result of this issue, we will have had to cancel your order and process a refund for the full value of the product. You should expect to receive the refund within 3 to 5 working days.
We’re sorry for any inconvenience that this may cause
We hope to see you again soon.

Regards

The Currys & PC World Service Department
albertchong79
26 Nov 15 #354
At least you got yours. I just got an email cancelling my order from pcworld/currys saying they've oversold due to a fault with their website :O
sureshot to albertchong79
26 Nov 15 #355
Ditto. It was due in store yesterday but I only just got the email whilst waiting in the queue. Talk about timing.
revolver31
26 Nov 15 #352
Both my drives arrived in there boxes wrapped in a bag delivered by royal mail, not exactly a confidence builder.

Does wdidle work on only wd drive cause I have a hgst and a few Toshiba drives that may or may not have the same head parking issue anyone with the experience on here advise?
zomg to revolver31
26 Nov 15 #353
Solely on WD drives.
chrisnasah
26 Nov 15 #351
Yep I could not even see the drive in disk management, box was damaged too hence why I think
chrisnasah
25 Nov 15 #338
Mine came DOA not being recognised at all with PC. Powers on with solid light, hearing clicking sounds after which nothing at all.
rexxyic4 to chrisnasah
26 Nov 15 #349
Did you initialize the drive in windows? Could just be that
RockStyle
26 Nov 15 #348
Green (WD50EZRX).
revolver31
26 Nov 15 #347
Looks like I got two green drives going by disc info EZRX running at 5700rpm, so I'm not sure if I'm more happy with the more silent faster greens or the slightly noisier & slower blues without the intelipower, but I have the greens so now to the drive check while in caddy then wdidle.
jkkec23
26 Nov 15 #346
Should i be happy i got 2 blues not greens or reds wanted to use in a nas in raid 1, but thinking of putting one in my desktop and replicating to the NAS.
zorg2000k
26 Nov 15 #344
Just to advise open mine up and its a Blue WD Drive. 64Mb Cache and 5400RPM - Dated Oct 2015
lhwjud to zorg2000k
26 Nov 15 #345
Does the bare drive has warranty based on serial?
adam1314
26 Nov 15 #343
For the people who don't own a desktop pc to install the hard drive and run wdidle. if you have a synology nas, you can put the drive on the nas and follow this link to tweak the head parking time or disable. http://forum.synology.com/enu/viewtopic.php?f=124&t=82215
The post explains how you can telnet your nas and run terminal cmd to tweak the naughty wd drive.
Monzer
26 Nov 15 #342
I've read that unless you intend to use them in a NAS or 24/7 use it might be better to change 8 seconds to the maximum allowed e.g. 300 seconds.. hopefully I'll get round to this today..

Just to clarify, once I have formatted the 5TB external to be one partition, I can use wdidle3 on that USB drive from DOS without the need to remove it from its enclosure?

Thanks all.
zomg
26 Nov 15 #341
Correct. Just be triple sure you're dealing with the correct drive! :smirk:

Also, as BigYoSpeck mentioned, it'll need to reformatted if you take it out of its case and install it as an internal drive and vice-versa.
adam1314
26 Nov 15 #339
Did anyone try to use WD Red smart load/unload utility to change the parking time on the WD blue drive? Will it work on the blue drive?
BigYoSpeck to adam1314
26 Nov 15 #340
I've transplanted the drives into my PC and using WDIDLE3 set the time up to 300 seconds.
BigYoSpeck
25 Nov 15 2 #337
Just remember any data you put on the drive while it's attached to the USB won't be available once it's attached by SATA and also and data on an existing SATA drive won't be visible when it's attached by USB. Best way to do it is to have the 5tb drive installed in the system along with the old drive at the same time, copy accross your data, then attach the old drive to the USB controller which will then make you reformat it.
popoyaya
25 Nov 15 #336
This is good to know. So you just go into administrative tools > computer management > disk management > delete all volumes > format as one volume > boot into wdidle on usb stick > disable head parking ?
WalterSmith
25 Nov 15 #335
Just converted the swapover, now to copy my 2Tb off the Green onto the 5Tb Blue and then I have a spare 2Tb long term backup.
BigYoSpeck
25 Nov 15 2 #334
Mine are Blue drives and they still park the head.

The drive is designed to last for years as an external drive, probably occasionally having big transfers made to it and when being accessed probably for media where it will be streamed constantly stopping the head parking taking place. I don't care about the minuscule power savings it makes so rather than it going through as many load cycles in a day as most drives do in their lifetime I'm disabling it rather than risking any detrimental wear.


Is it the same size as the green? if so I wouldn't bother I can't think of any benefit to swapping.

If it's larger capacity however then do you want more capacity? The green can always have the usb adapter attached and be placed in the Elements case. I've just popped an old 200gb Maxtor drive in. It makes you format it so make sure you've recovered everything off it before you do. Oh and getting it back in the chassis with the rubber bushings is a monumental pain.
the_geezer
25 Nov 15 1 #333
I just picked one of these up as an impulse buy in Currys At Canary Wharf was told there was one more there which is reserved just for today
So if anyone is in the Canary Wharf area and you popping in just before closing you might be able to get one
WalterSmith
25 Nov 15 #319
Picked mine up at lunchtime, Costorphine Edinburgh. A few more waiting to be uplifted!

Empty box on shelf but no stock in there at all now. Gonna usurp a WD green 2Tb from my HP Proliant which currently has 2 WD Green 2Tb + 2 WD Red 3 Tb.
WalterSmith to WalterSmith
25 Nov 15 #332
Cracked mine open using the credit card trick. Its a 5Tb WD Blue. Should I just use it as a backup external (rarely used) rather than usurp a green from my HP Proliant microserver?
Joefez
25 Nov 15 #331
I think the biggest issue was with the 2TB green EARS drive, which seemed to suffer badly from aggressive head parking (going back a few years now). Not sure how bad it is with the newer drives. One would imagine with the 2015 drives being pictured here in the thread, it's less of a problem.
Shonk
25 Nov 15 #329
I managed to get my off in 6 load cycles
i must type quicker hehe
Sammy360 to Shonk
25 Nov 15 #330
So should it always be disabled and what about blue drives????
adam1314
25 Nov 15 #325
Received two blues wd from eBay store. The credit card method does not work well in my care and cut my right thumb twice. Finally opened up with a flat head screw driver.
hotfinder to adam1314
25 Nov 15 #327
Ouch! :wink:
BigYoSpeck to adam1314
25 Nov 15 #328
Credit card (or any flat plastic card) is going to cause the least damage if done right.

There are 4 clips along the back of the casing. I started by gently prying the corner of the case up enough with my finger nail to get the card in. Then gently slide it along the back until you feel the clip pop. Do that on all four corners and then the cover should just slide off.

Both mine are WD50EZRZ Blue drives. Not as quiet as I expected for a 5400RPM drive. Definite whoosh and a lot of grinding head chatter as AAM is not enabled. They park their heads as expected. Just plugging it in and then preparing a transfer saw it go though 8 load cycle counts.
Winterwolf
25 Nov 15 2 #326
Well just changed the head park timeout using WDIDLE3 with no issues at all on my 2x3TB RAID1 drives... Happy chappy.

If anyone else is planning on doing it... theres a universal boot cd with WDIDLE3 already built in so its even quicker to sort. Just write the iso to a USB using Rufus.

http://www.jzab.de/content/wdidle-bootcd
Monzer
25 Nov 15 #322
erm.. I can't find the wdidle utility? Where is it available for dl?
zomg to Monzer
25 Nov 15 2 #324
zomg
25 Nov 15 #323
I've just popped an old 1TB Seagate into the vacant WD Elements case. Formatted it, and it's now working just fine plugged into my TV for recording live programs.
zomg
25 Nov 15 1 #321
The only stupid question is the one you don't ask. I've answered your questions in order:

I have zero experience with Win7, but I suspect you can manage spin down for both internal mechanical drives and your new WD Elements through the OS. I'd certainly go down this route myself.

Personally, I had already disabled spin down on all my drives, and have just done the same to my new WD Elements (which is now just another internal drive).

The WD Elements was actually three partitions. As I understand it this was done for compatibility reasons. It formatted into one 4.45TB drive just fine on Win8.1

Good idea to go one by one. Rufus is good for creating bootable USB sticks.

Good luck! :smile:
purdygirl
25 Nov 15 #317
Monzer to purdygirl
25 Nov 15 #320
That's the 3TB version!
christobal
25 Nov 15 #318
One left on the shelf in Hartlepool store (near the marina) Hope this helps someone.
Monzer
25 Nov 15 #316
Ok I am going to tackle the parking wdidle thing today. Hope I don't cock it up!!! lol

I have an SSD and two WD 1TB blues in my system and the WDS Elements 5TB with a green inside..

Am I right in thinking that I can set suitable spin down times in the energy saving areas of windows 7?

If you were me would you disable spin down times on both the blues (internal) and green (external) and just let windows power these down instead?

When you say one simple volume, are you saying the WD Elements 5TB is two partitions? Am I right in thinking that they have done this to be compatible with WinXP?

To be safe I'll do it one drive at a time from DOS.. I guess I can just chuck the exe on a CD or USB stick... my motherboard is an Asus Z97 Pro..

Sorry for any daft questions. I'll review this thread and make sure I am armed with all the knowledge.
zomg
25 Nov 15 2 #315
zomg
25 Nov 15 1 #314


Yes it can. You have to go into Administrative Tools in control panel, make the whole thing one simple volume and then get busy with a boot disk to run wdidle3.exe
JoeSpur
25 Nov 15 #313
Hasn't expired, I just brought one home a few hours ago and there were more being reserved and some on the shelf.
FallenAzazel
25 Nov 15 #312
hasnt expired, check online and had stock local which they didnt last night, reserved and went to store, SyncBack also voted for.

3 more in stock in MK
davem
25 Nov 15 #311
I'm pretty sure you need to be in dos only to run w3idle but you can specify the drive you wish to change (if you have multiple WD drives).

There are posts in this thread pointing to tutorials.

* You can query the idle state of each drive first to see what the values are.
Meathotukdeals
25 Nov 15 #310
One more vote for 2brightsparks SyncBack. Like the way it hash checks if you want it to be really sure.
Monzer
25 Nov 15 #309
Sorry if this sounds too newbie.

Can W3idle be run from windows and that only WD drives will be updated? My OS is on my Samsung SSD. Will I get confirmation that the change has been made? Is it best to just turn it off? I have two Blue 1TB drives also, should I turn them off? I'd rather windows turns my internal drives off not firmware...
DafEO
25 Nov 15 #308
Link now redirecting to Storage list page.
So guess Curry's have de-listed it.
jbirtles
25 Nov 15 #307
JUST AN UPDATE GUYS, I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET ONE OF THESE AND AS WE ALL KNOW THEY ARE OUT OF STOCK EVERYWHERE.... BUTTTT GOOD NEWS THEY ONLY HOLD THE R&C FOR 24 HOURS SO STORES TODAY ARE SHOWING THEM IN STOCK AGAIN =D ...... GO CHECK !!!!!!
Monzer
25 Nov 15 1 #304
Just arrived! Mine is green! Booooo! I shone a torch through the grill to see...

Will the aggressive head-parking be an issue if I intend to use this drive for storage and watching movies?
davem to Monzer
25 Nov 15 #306
It won't help so disabling it should make your drive last longer at the expense of slightly (and I mean slightly) more power consumption.

I'm using my two to back up family photo's/videos etc. so won't be switched on much (only when I need to archive) but I'm still going to disable the 8s head parking.

Pick your method of opening the case (the credit card method above sounds easy enough), disconnect the additional USB board and then connect directly to a sata port. Run w3idle to disable, then put it all back together again.
Monzer
25 Nov 15 #305
Presumably the designers made the housing to resemble a book. If I look at the housing like a book, then the ventilation grills are the pages. When standing as it was designed to do so, the 'spine' of the book facing away from me and the pages (ventilation gaps) facing toward me, presumably the 4 clips are 2 per side in the pages facing toward me vertically. Presumably the 'sliding' bits you refer to are horizontal i.e. top and bottom? Correct? So just a case of prizing vertical sides and then sliding forward?

If you intended to keep this drive in its housing to use as an external drive would you personally turn off or change the intellipark feature? If so, which?

Thank you
sijones855
25 Nov 15 1 #303
I've always used the free version of SyncBack - it's absolutely brilliant. Have also installed the paid-for version at work, but the free one is fine for the home user. Get it here, just be careful to install the free one, don't click to install a demo of the paid-for one.

SyncBack Free does incremental backups (so it is smart enough to only copy over the new stuff since last time you backed up). It can also sync 2 disks, etc etc.
Shonk
25 Nov 15 2 #302
I wasnt being snide

Its trivial to open these with zero marks, zero damage and zero force

you just get a credit card inbetween the gap on the back and slide it around carefully
until the clips pop on the one side of the back, do the same on the other side of the back
dont touch the sides as there's zero clips and just sliders
once all 4 clips are popped just slide it open

I watched a few video's online of people opening them and omg
its like watching a chimp trying to open a wallnut with a brick


zomg
25 Nov 15 1 #301

Am I missing something? :stuck_out_tongue:
davem
25 Nov 15 1 #300
So why not just post your alternative method without the snide remarks and help us all out.

* it's hardly butchery
davem
25 Nov 15 #299
I use a free MS Tool called SyncToy for that.

You create folder pairs and then decide how to sync them up when running the tool. There's no background service so it will only sync when you want to. You can also preview before the sync begins.

* although it only mentions windows 7 & XP I'm currently using it with 8.1 and I expect it's fine with 10 too.
sneakypez
24 Nov 15 1 #129
I'm skint overdrawn what the hell how can I resist :smirk:
StrifeyWolf to sneakypez
25 Nov 15 #298
​Just stop now!
Shonk
25 Nov 15 #297
It amazes me the butchers you see on the internet :stuck_out_tongue:

Why not just pop the 4 clips with a credit card
then slide it open

Zero damage
Zero Marks
30 Sec Job
Warranty intact..
EvilMatt
25 Nov 15 #296
I've been using http://www.freefilesync.org/ to backup my drives. It takes a little setting up but it's worth it. I have it set to add all new content from source and delete all extra data from target (backup) drive so that every time I sync I get a matched pair and don't end up with duplicate files.
ElectricalStorm
25 Nov 15 #294
OOS :/
aaron2104 to ElectricalStorm
25 Nov 15 #295
Not everywhere
aaron2104
25 Nov 15 #293
Carbon Copy Cloner is more useful for cloning entire drives than file backup (In my opinion)(good for cloning a C: Drive to a larger capacity drive when needed etc)
I use Cobain Backup for backing up files/folders as its free and has decent configurable options http://www.cobiansoft.com/cobianbackup.htm
bazward75
25 Nov 15 #292


A couple of decades ago i am sure you will recall people said that about the floppy drive, they said it wasnt stiff enuf but
nobody thinks twice about it now.
BigYoSpeck
24 Nov 15 #291
Windows has backup features built in under the control panel.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/uKFfFPZYsHO30DMBhAT7aH6xjWOXb9TQCSnb8MmJsVZAoJUelkFgU6drIG6EoueL9j5qWKuWMLlNZn3yMDrwV8YU4MM_5-1KFnAO0-nUDHFcle-eOz_4e70Fz303XazdRcDHqW82DZAWtXbLsyG9RYrgG7tYQ5x9TeOzb2N7ZYfyDPoeIwK4wbKDM3WBXg5hQfm9W9u_8CsBgODcOV-Af2pzGUYQcG5sV1LikdXFMQzJFeH40pkVYZAHTGdGCefY2T1Rv3otM07O4FWfDzgX3RnjdEGZeuDH_R6rWY6mhvEmyT3_hD-VZg5IiEXfx23h9H8u8m-uKbNDB7WtOYj2RSbCGp9PM00jWRRFrWiRSEFc5JEldFdLMcdegJZtGsyZ0Xz-orW0Yfc1vbC-tuAnNu7zORArcBjU29Zi866Vc4LOoFFAC6uDyVvYU34Rb-jynybQCSJ7yKO68lgy9Pltg1SWxnfHH5EmDTh9sLJlgQfRaZ-YUCJjcrnriZoF2uqMf9nI8NFP7YWtoIGorl5eHIqno3Pjb-PRPUrm5z_8BIE=w630-h549-no
DD98
24 Nov 15 #290
I was wondering if there would be a way to do a periodic sync, like once a week to back-up my photo collection. I've done a quick search and have come across 'carbon copy cloner' - does anyone have experience using this/related programs?
davem
24 Nov 15 #289
I found the easiet method was to hold the case between your legs and towards your body. Then take a flat headed screw driver as pictured below and push the edge towards you (you can generate a lot of controlled force this way). Do a bit on the bottom first (you'll hear a quiet click as it releases, just a mm or so at first) and then the top. When both top and bottom are released, repeat the process untils there's enough of the middle section showing to pull away with your fingers.

No clips broken and easy to reassemble. Even if you don't plan to use the drive in another device, turning off the 8s head parking is good for increasing the potential life span of the drive.

* if you somehow mess it up it's on you :P

http://i.imgur.com/yDk03Nh.jpg
DD98
24 Nov 15 #260
Hi, I've just bought one of these as a back up drive to my 2tb portable WD drive and then would look to back up a further 2tb drive in the future when the first one becomes full. Could someone please explain the options that I have to do this, basically mirror the data on two seperate hard-drives onto this 5tb? Thanks!
BigYoSpeck to DD98
24 Nov 15 #288
Is there a reason you can't just drag and copy the files across?
floppydesk
24 Nov 15 #287
None in Norfolk (East Of England), as of 2 mins ago.
AppStar
24 Nov 15 2 #286
COYS!
CockneySpur
24 Nov 15 1 #285
yours is rather cool too :smiley:
PenguinsForAll
23 Nov 15 5 #12
God damnit, just bought a 8TB and now I wanna get this as well! This website is gonna make me mental!
pwel to PenguinsForAll
23 Nov 15 1 #27
think it this way: unless you are desperate for one asap, good hard drives deals always come up eventually... I ve got a couple of external hd still sealed in their package more than a couple months now...hope it helps..
CockneySpur to PenguinsForAll
23 Nov 15 #98
and poor :smiley:
muchado2 to PenguinsForAll
24 Nov 15 #284
​8TB external hard drive?
Make, model?
Price?
You've piqued my interest.
mr-mixalot
24 Nov 15 #283
Tempted to replace my Buffalo 1TB with this baby
rastbury
24 Nov 15 #282
Anyone know if the WD greens need thier firmware hacking/changing? i hear various stories about idle parking being a problem on earlier drives, is this still the case?
koswix
24 Nov 15 #281
Still a couple in stock for collection. These were the nearest ones I could find to Scotland :'D

Unit B Wakes Retail Park, River Way
Newport, PO30 5UZ

And one in
Unit 6 Houndstone Retail Park
Yeovil, BA22 8YQ
Gunneria
24 Nov 15 1 #280
Ordered one for in-store pick up, thanks.
buffoon
24 Nov 15 #279
heat added, thanks. Just picked one up, plenty of storage for blu rays. Game of Thrones here I come.
Azza1
24 Nov 15 #278
Ordered a couple this morning. Will throw them in my NAS. :smiley:
Toight_Toiger
24 Nov 15 #277
Thanks OP. Ordered a couple for collection. Will be interesting to see if they are greens or blues :smiley:
colthillary
24 Nov 15 1 #276
For those who dont know. You may find that your drive will show as having two partitions. You will need to convert the drive from MBR to GPT before you can partition it as a single drive.
poopscoop
24 Nov 15 #275
Yesterday it linked to the Currys/PC World site
twix41
24 Nov 15 #274
Just cracked my 2 open and got a Blue and a Green lol
AppStar
24 Nov 15 2 #273
I like how some people are now referring to their personal porn stash as "family photos".

Clever! :man:
fullbeem
24 Nov 15 #183
Bought myself 2 to upgrade my NAS from 2TB to 5TB with RAID. Heat added
DafEO to fullbeem
24 Nov 15 #272
Green drives aren't that suitable to use in RAID - the green nature means they spin down - causing raid issues. I'd stick to Red.
DafEO
24 Nov 15 #271
Out of stock in most London shops
colthillary
24 Nov 15 #268
Got a blue with mine (manufactured in October 2015).
BluesFanUK to colthillary
24 Nov 15 #270
Guessing it's one of the re-badged Green drives. They now all come under the Blue label, a stupid move by WD IMO.
rastbury
24 Nov 15 1 #269
https://snapguide.com/guides/disassemble-a-wd-mybook-essential-hdd/
carefully pry the top and bottoms and you can de-shell it, there are no horrible hidden clips to deal with which is nice design for once.
carl2511
24 Nov 15 #267
can some one advice me looking to expand my Xbox One hdd is this the way to go or any recommendations?
Monzer
24 Nov 15 #266
I deleted a few hundred GB of porn recently.. and I made a deal with myself to not download any more.. there is such a thing as too much.
rastbury
24 Nov 15 1 #256
Got a Green one!

http://s16.postimg.org/75cfuwr9x/image1.jpg

BTW - very easy to de-shell without any marks or damage. that way you can keep casing and box in-case of warranty issues
davem to rastbury
24 Nov 15 #265
Did you follow any instructions?

If not, could you list what you did to de-shell :smiley:
kg1986
24 Nov 15 #262
9TB of storage now. I think I have a problem :\
revolver31 to kg1986
24 Nov 15 #263
lol not really mate I just bought 9tb n I have 4x4tb 2x3tb 3x2tb 1x1tb internal drives and many 500,1tb external and a single 1.5 tb external portable. granted 2 of the 2tb are now backups as in one of the 3tb, but still.
BluesFanUK to kg1986
24 Nov 15 2 #264
I have 24TB. Too much pr0n.
rastbury
24 Nov 15 #261
Sorry - after a bit of googling... i needed to right click on the whole disk and convert from MBR to a GPT drive to enable partitions over 2TB :smile:
FlexR
24 Nov 15 #259
Whats best between WD Green and WD Red then?

I'm guessing Red, Purple (24/7 CCTV I use and 1 Black never had a green?
Shonk
24 Nov 15 #233
the usb chipset uses some funky partition layout btw

there was 1x550gb partition and 2x2TB partitions on it when i fired my pc up without the enclosure

i removed all partitions zero filled about 10gb then initialised it as gpt
rastbury to Shonk
24 Nov 15 #238
Is this done for Max 2TB compatibility with older systems?
rastbury to Shonk
24 Nov 15 #258
i have the same, yet the 2 x 2tb partitions are unallocated. how did you merge them, using windows disk manager?
DennisG
24 Nov 15 1 #255
I reserved and for once they'd physically allocated the product to my reservation. All in-store stock gone (reserved probably thanks to this thread!). 945 left in warehouse, can't order online for home delivery but you can order it in store for delivery to store according to staff.
Shard to DennisG
24 Nov 15 1 #257
I did get worried when I saw the girl had to go into the physical store to get mine, luckily there were some there. I'll know for next time
jamgin
24 Nov 15 #254
Eggs?
fishmaster
24 Nov 15 1 #253
You'd have a backup plan obviously unless of course you're stupid. If you can't afford to lose it you have a backup plan or you lose it and cry and then you get told YOU SHOULD HAVE BACKED UP DOH!
dezontk
24 Nov 15 1 #252
Reserved at Currys. Went to Currys. Walked around looking at things including hard drives. Saw one of these, the last one. Picked it up. Went and paid. Didn't mention about my reservation. Guy went to counter next to me. Guy asked about his 5tb drive reservation and whilst smiling gave his number. Lady had none reserved in cupboards behind. Lady went to check the shelf. Lady came back and explained there was none left.

10/10 would reserve again.
WaveMotionEngine
24 Nov 15 #251
Actually, it's an abbreviation for 'carry your own weight'.
pankomputerek
24 Nov 15 #250
Only 1 in my local stores, got last one. Would love another to RAID it so there's a backup if it fails.
Shonk
24 Nov 15 #249
Ignore the cpu stats on the green and the toshiba my power management limits benchmarks to around 180 read
so i ran prime in the background with a few threads going to ensure the benchmark was accurate
the blue's on a non intel controller that doesnt suffer with power management problems so i didnt need to do it on that

morocco1
24 Nov 15 #248
Awesome price per TB. Yes it's a lot of data to lose, but that's what backups are for. And for this price, assuming you can't afford to lose your data, then you can afford to buy two and RAID them. I paid just less than this for a single WD Red 4TB earlier in the year, so great deal. Heated.
Joefez
24 Nov 15 1 #247
Judging from Shonks stats it looks like it might be an ok drive for a HTPC. I'm guessing the lower spin speed will mean it'll run quieter (and cooler). The seek time between the Green and the Blue is minimal and CPU usage is low, so might fit the bill quite nicely. Must admit I was a bit miffed when I saw that they might all be Blue's inside the casing .Be interesting to see what people get. As you get them home and crack them open, add them to the thread. Be interesting to see what the spread is.
Winterwolf
24 Nov 15 #246
Cheers ... Yeah probably wise, will pull one out at a time and do it via my PC ... Just in case for some reason the array poops itself and I lose everything.
Shonk
24 Nov 15 1 #245
nope
Shonk
24 Nov 15 2 #244
Ive just run some benchmarks theyr pretty slow
these are just slower greens hope you get one thats been on the shelve for ages and has a green in it

5750 rpm Green 175.8 at the start 76.2 at the end
5400 rpm Blue 156.4 at the start 70.0 at the end
7200 rpm Toshiba 220.4 at the start 104.0 at the end (as a comparison)



Blue
http://s5.postimg.org/jlb8fqn4n/24_November_2015_15_57.png

Green
http://s5.postimg.org/cw4ozq1sn/24_November_2015_16_01.png

Toshiba as a Comparison
http://s5.postimg.org/ws0of9itz/24_November_2015_16_11.png
amukid1992
24 Nov 15 #243
Could someone link a step-by-step guide to remove the firmware limitations?
DaDutchie
24 Nov 15 1 #242
This is why I just always buy two external drives and use rdiff-backup.

The advantage of that over using raid, is that it also gives you a file history, so you also recover any accidentally deleted files, or any old versions of files that have been edited, etc.
adam1314
24 Nov 15 #241
Thank you very much. Can you disable the parking time when the drive is in the enclosure?
Shonk
24 Nov 15 #240
most prob
Stuart_N
24 Nov 15 #239
Just snagged this deal for myself!
I've been waiting for a WD portable hard drive to go on sale somewhere :smile:
ericcc123
24 Nov 15 #235
pick up one today it a Wd50ezrz inside.
Monzer to ericcc123
24 Nov 15 #237
cool that's what I hope mine is.. (blue)
Winterwolf
24 Nov 15 #218
Never knew about the WD Greens aggressively parking the head of the disk.. Ive got 2x3tb Greens. Good to see you can tweak it to a higher park time like the reds... I want to try it BUT, my HP Microserver is running the disks in Raid.

Can I do the tweak while there still in RAID, or do I need to drop them out of the array 1 at a time?
Hmm, guess im googling things for a while tonight.
zomg to Winterwolf
24 Nov 15 1 #236
You'll be able to do both at the same time. The utility will update firmware on all (modern) WD drives in the system simultaneously. I'd personally attack them one at a time just in case though.
Cstark
24 Nov 15 #234
Your welcome, after that I just put into my Synology (well, xpenology) and let that take care of the formatting etc.
adam1314
24 Nov 15 #232
Thanks a lot,mate
Shonk
24 Nov 15 3 #231
Remove from usb enclosure

fit in a pc
boot a dos usb boot stick with wdidle3 1.05 on it

wdidle3 (to see current settings)

wdidle3 /D to disable
bomberman1
24 Nov 15 #230
mine has been dispatched
Shonk
24 Nov 15 #229
Quiet
Cstark
24 Nov 15 2 #228
This should help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2eYyRI_F98&list=WL&index=18 link to tool in the youtube description, burn this to CD.
Shonk
24 Nov 15 1 #213
I just checked the head parking its still 8.0 seconds on the blue's

Disabled now..
BigYoSpeck to Shonk
24 Nov 15 #215
What's the noise like on them?

I'm switching to these from a 7200rpm Samsung drive that has been the bane of my silent computing quest.
adam1314 to Shonk
24 Nov 15 #227
Could you please post how you disable it? I've bought two and would like to put them into my synology ds213j.
GibsonSt19
24 Nov 15 #226
Fully expecting to to be shot down here, but can this be used with a PS4?
Monzer
24 Nov 15 1 #225
lol

With all the revelations by Snowden, quite why anyone wants to entrust their data to 'the cloud' (i.e. someone else's computer) is beyond me.. if a couple of kids can hack in to talk talk, it's only a matter of time before there is a big breach of a 'cloud'.

(Do some people actually believe cloud services are sort of in the clouds?)
babyboya187
24 Nov 15 #224
Just ordered been looking for a 5TB for a while at a good price thank you !
BenderRodriguez
24 Nov 15 3 #223
https://d21ii91i3y6o6h.cloudfront.net/gallery_images/from_proof/3442/large/1418280711/die-cut-stickers.png
ought
24 Nov 15 #214
Looks like the Blue are your bog standard desktop sort of a drive.

Not as exciting a deal as if a red or green were inside.
Monzer to ought
24 Nov 15 #222
I hope mine is blue.. I don't want any intellipower nonsense..
BigYoSpeck
24 Nov 15 #221
I think they still have the 8 second head park setting which you can change but no variable spin rate which should still be of benefit for long term reliability.
Monzer
24 Nov 15 1 #220
I use a lot of blu tack to silence components like hard drives.. either under an external drive or along the edge of internal ones where they areconnected to their cage(s).. the mass and springiness of blu tack helps deaden vibrations and noise..
joneeboy
24 Nov 15 #219
Its a synonym for 'I'm a smart ass'.
revolver31
24 Nov 15 #217
that would be nice no more headache with head parking.
Monzer
24 Nov 15 #216
I just phoned WD and they said in the UK it is more likely a blue or green inside.... unlikely to be a red..

Still good. :smiley:
chrisnasah
24 Nov 15 #212
asking for advice I guess
cjw176
24 Nov 15 #179
I ordered the Seagate drive from Amazon a few days ago for £99.99 and it's been dispatched. Is it worth me ordering this and returning the Seagate drive when it arrives or is it not worth the hassle(and the P+P to return it)?
uksnapper to cjw176
24 Nov 15 #211
Why ask us ?
uksnapper
24 Nov 15 1 #210
Dont store valuable stuff in a shed,police advise against it :-)
batezy_1984
24 Nov 15 #205
If you take this bad boy apart would it work in the ps4 (I'm expecting probably not...!)
gunner786 to batezy_1984
24 Nov 15 #208
What i wanna know aswell
BigYoSpeck to batezy_1984
24 Nov 15 #209
PS4 only houses a 2.5" I think.

Formatted to exFAT it should work as a USB attached device though.
BigYoSpeck
24 Nov 15 #207

They're merging product lines. I'm going to assume no more intellipower and just a fixed rpm of 5400.
ggidd
24 Nov 15 #206
On this... no
To have SSD it would need to be SSHD
Monzer
24 Nov 15 #204
The blue has some SSD on it as well doesn't it?

I hope mine is blue or red.. but I'll make do with green...
Monzer
24 Nov 15 #203
I missed out on it on EBAY so I got it from Currys/PC World website instead just now.. FREE next day delivery!

I sometimes deliberate too long on bargains but I figured even with Black Friday coming up this might still be one of the best deals on a 5TB drive...

Interesting to note that a 5TB green or red WD HDD costs more than the same drive in an external caddy!?
Shonk
24 Nov 15 2 #194
http://s5.postimg.org/4mstlb82e/20151124_130840.jpg
ought to Shonk
24 Nov 15 #202
Blue? Not Green, not Red. Blue?
chrisnasah
24 Nov 15 1 #201
reposted again with link to currys site

link
poopscoop
24 Nov 15 #197
Why's this expired? You can get it online and in-store still.
Liverpool_Bear to poopscoop
24 Nov 15 #198
^^^^
THIS!
JoeyJoeC to poopscoop
24 Nov 15 #200
Because the deal links to the eBay page which has expired.
chrisnasah
24 Nov 15 #199
yep you can still get it online just did
JoeyJoeC
24 Nov 15 #196
The drive itself will be under a warrenty
noiy
24 Nov 15 #195
States oos . just missed as tried buying but had to reset eBay password!
TomT
24 Nov 15 #191
Anyone recommend a decent NAS Enclosure for a pair of these disks ?
(once removed from their cases)
stephenr to TomT
24 Nov 15 #193
Qnap TS-253
splender
24 Nov 15 #192
No it is not risky , buy if you paired them, may be 2 different brands so not all eggs are in one basket. You need to use two baskets.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/03/07/article-2289600-1880A0AD000005DC-189_634x452.jpghttp://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/03/07/article-2289600-1880A0AD000005DC-189_634x452.jpg
zomg
24 Nov 15 #190
Paypal invoices you two weeks later, rather than debiting from your account at point of sale.
Shonk
24 Nov 15 #189
Anyone looking for a take apart guide search
wd mybook essential its the same shell
Shard
24 Nov 15 #188
Anyone recommend a good external hard drive testing tool? I use h2testw for pendrives, not sure on something this size
MuscleFlex
24 Nov 15 #187
What do you mean 2 weeks to pay for it?
Shonk
24 Nov 15 #181
Anyone found a deshelling guide?
zomg to Shonk
24 Nov 15 1 #184
maxmix to Shonk
24 Nov 15 1 #186
!!! Are you boiling the eggs ?

maxmix
MazingerZ
24 Nov 15 #185
bought this when it was £119 about 6 months ago
Riser
24 Nov 15 #182
Done and done cheers :smiley:
andreasuk
24 Nov 15 1 #180
You can still keep the smaller 1 and copy the really important stuff on it. Thats what ive been doing for many years.
dxx
24 Nov 15 2 #178
I wouldn't bold text containing so much stupid.
Shonk
24 Nov 15 #177
Picked one up instore
goodgrr
24 Nov 15 1 #176
Great timing, just got a 10% off voucher for ebay (£100 min spend), so got this and something else I was considering for just over £10 and almost got the extra for free :-)

I assume the voucher is once only, customer specific but you are welcome to try SUKELECBQFJDW
The_Circle
24 Nov 15 1 #174
Is 5TB enough to store all my porn? I do wonder, as I have been in quite a few.
Siilver to The_Circle
24 Nov 15 1 #175
if you have 5.01tb or porn then no lol
madmaxl2
24 Nov 15 #136
There isnt any drive thats portable that you cant take the hard drive out of the case. They are all standard hdd inside with sata connections
admirable to madmaxl2
24 Nov 15 1 #138
Incorrect, some have the USB connection soldered direct onto the hard drive so not a standard SATA !
manapausejp to madmaxl2
24 Nov 15 #173
i got a 5tb toshiba one, and after taking it out the external enclosure and despite reformatting it, it continuously disappeared in Windows - once I put it back in the external case it behaves perfectly fine. No idea what that was about as I've taken plenty of 3tb & 4tb out of cases to use internally
VimesUK
24 Nov 15 2 #172
I am having to use the WDIDLE3 tool to resolve the frequent head parking on my recently bought 6TB WD Green drive. Even though it has only been in my PC for a month or so it has more Load Cycle Counts than the 2TB one that I used the same utility on over two years ago.
I have previously done the same on each of my WD Greens but sort of hoped that it might not be needed on the later / newer models.

Off I go.....

Heat added as this is a good buy OP.
zomg
24 Nov 15 1 #171

I honestly don't know, but I will find out tomorrow when mine arrives and report back.

There are other WD idle speed tools out there too - have a google.

One thing I must say though: Check your model numbers, and read everything twice before attempting anything mentioned in this thread. I've successfully reconfigured a 3Tb Green in the past and it was a piece of cake. Do be careful though, and I'd advise against modifying firmware on any drive that has anything stored on it that you don't mind losing.
weltysparrow
24 Nov 15 1 #161
To previous posters, the Reds and Greens are the same. It's just branding and some firmware differences. There is no physical difference. Much like how Intel differentiates their CPUs by blowing a few fuses to disable certain features.
Spark to weltysparrow
24 Nov 15 #170
Can you cross-flash a red to a green in that case then?
Monzer
24 Nov 15 #169
I want to know this also....
zomg
24 Nov 15 1 #158
moh223 to zomg
24 Nov 15 #160
What if you are using an internal WD green (no OS). Should you do this?
JoeSpur to zomg
24 Nov 15 #168
Can this be done as an external drive without taking it out of the case?
Monzer
24 Nov 15 #166
So does intellipower negatively affect lifetime when used as an external drive?
zomg to Monzer
24 Nov 15 1 #167
I strongly doubt it. It arguably will have a negative impact on performance though.

Intellipower is WD's pixie dust that uses a bespoke caching strategy combined with [as I understand it] variable spin speed to keep power consumption down while maintaining performance.
zomg
24 Nov 15 2 #165
The Greens are configured the way they are to minimise energy use in the average desktop (OS drive) setup. Reds are configured not to park the heads as in NAS / Server setups there is so much activity, by the time the heads have parked they'll be brought back into use for the next activity. The Greens (and any other drive not designed for this type of usage) literally just wear themselves out mechanically after a while.

So, to answer your question: Doing this to your internal Green OS drive will cause no harm, but you will see slightly higher energy usage.
lroybrulz
24 Nov 15 1 #164
​mine went from a WD drive to a Seagate pipeline drive and works flawlessly, as long as you are running the latest firmware it should work, as long as you reflash the firmware with the replacement drive pre-installed into the case
Monzer
24 Nov 15 #163
If it is a green drive inside the caddy, and you wish to use the drive as an external drive i.e. you are NOT seeking to dismantle the unit to get at the drives inside to use in raid, would intellipower have a negative effect on lifecycle of the drive when used as an external drive?

If yes, is it possible to disable intellipower whilst it is still in the caddy or do you have to remove it from the caddy in order to use WD's utility to disable the inellipower feature?

I hope my question makes sense.
admirable
23 Nov 15 1 #21
I bought a 4TB version of this, removed the 4TB drive (Green) for my PC and then tried to replace it with a WD Green 2TB drive but it no worky. Tried several other drives but couldn't get it to work.
Just saying
GoNz017 to admirable
23 Nov 15 #43
You have to google replacing a drive and it will take you to a forum or 2 that has the needed files and destructions, I failed as I tried to use a Samsung drive so I guessed you needed WD drives to pull it off.

I got lucky, I was expecting a green in my "MyBook" 3tb but got a red :smiley:
lroybrulz to admirable
24 Nov 15 #162
​I had the 1tb version, and removed the drive, I installed a 500gb drive into it, but it wouldn't work either. until I updated the firmware with the drive installed. now it works perfectly on by 360 (only because the 1tb version is only USB 2)
Eraser84
24 Nov 15 #159
Am I right in assuming that this won't work with a ps4?
Gold Feet
24 Nov 15 #157
So your data storage strategy, is being prepared to lose no more than 1TB of data?
heroone1
24 Nov 15 #140
Hi
Is this drive compatible with windows 10.
Just want to keep the family pictures safe .
Thanks
Shard to heroone1
24 Nov 15 #141
Use an online backup instead like google drive, free and safer (i.e. if the hard drive breaks)
zomg to heroone1
24 Nov 15 #156
Yes. 100%
ought
24 Nov 15 #155
Ordered 2 for home delivery.

And I don't fancy Cloud Storage. I have about a terabyte of photos I'd need to upload, and I don't fancy them all being hackable, or subject to loss due to massive failure of a company going bust. Nope.
JoeSpur
24 Nov 15 1 #154
Haha, just saying if you value your privacy it's better to keep stuff in your own possession.
movva
24 Nov 15 1 #153
Voted hot...but i got it for 82.99 in august when bespoke was alive.
Shard
24 Nov 15 1 #152
You obviously have more interesting family pictures than me :-)
sparkylicious
24 Nov 15 #151
Amazing price. Hot, hot, hot.
DBoniface
24 Nov 15 #142
does anyone know if this will work on a Panasonic TV to store films etc on?
MrCollective to DBoniface
24 Nov 15 #145
You will need to read your manual to see what the largest storage size your TV can see.


Definitely not safer!

Not everyone wants their personal media stored on a cloud.
movva to DBoniface
24 Nov 15 #150
It works fine with latest smart tvs....my samsung smart tv and panasonic blueray home theatre plays the files from this drive...alternatively buy wdtv media player if your panasonic tv won't play bigger data.
JoeSpur
24 Nov 15 #149
Safer in a sense that you will be able to retrieve them, but there's a bigger chance that they will accidentally end up in the public domain. Also Google takes ownership of anything you store on their servers, so if they ever have an idea to somehow use your photos for whatever reason you will have already agreed to it... The cloud also gets hacked all the time, that's how we get to see celebrities naked :stuck_out_tongue:
mango850
24 Nov 15 #133
if purchased on ebay can it be returned to the store
AppStar to mango850
24 Nov 15 2 #134
Keep it simple, if you're buying to return it then you might as well not buy it in the first place. Simples!
jsoap to mango850
24 Nov 15 1 #148
No they must be returned to the outlet by post. If its a failure within 12 months, then they will send a label for the return.
Studge
24 Nov 15 #147
Any one can 100% that this works on Xbox one please?
DeepMish
24 Nov 15 #143
What write speed is this 5200rpm or 7200rpm???
carlpearce2000 to DeepMish
24 Nov 15 5 #146
http://cdn.meme.am/instances/58530216.jpg
frownbreaker
24 Nov 15 #144
Ordered 5 via TCB and was offered free del and selection of del dates. Heat
knack
24 Nov 15 2 #139
Great price! Plan to purchase £80 of gift cards at Morrisons for Fuel Saver voucher and 5% TSB cashback.. hopefully the stock level is accurate for my local store!
SartoriX
24 Nov 15 #137
Scorching hot deal sooooo tempted, trying to resist
ahayden80
24 Nov 15 #135
Definitely works with the Xbox One as I use one myself that I bought from Currys a month ago grrrrr
mercutio98uk
24 Nov 15 #132
For backup purposes you're generally better with an external. Plug it in, run the backup, unplug it and short of fire or it getting dropped you're data is safe.

Raid + backup + cloud backup is the way to go for anything you totally can't loose.
aaron2104
24 Nov 15 2 #131
At that price buy 2 and you can backup :stuck_out_tongue:
bomberman1
24 Nov 15 #130
ordered
sneakypez
24 Nov 15 #128
same price too
sneakypez
24 Nov 15 #127
if your local Curry's haven't got these in stock eBay has them from Curry's as my local Curry's didn't have them in stock :smiley:
JoeSpur
24 Nov 15 #126
The only problem I have with these are that they sometimes lock up when transferring huge amounts of data at once. Sometimes this can even cause system instability and require a reboot. Someone on here once said that's more a problem with externals in general than with any specific drive tho...

I have the 3tb model... Considering this... Heat added! :smile:
rev6
24 Nov 15 4 #125
Nothing else like a HDD deal to set your imagination free.
JoeSpur
24 Nov 15 1 #124
Nice avatar :smile:
spaceinvader
23 Nov 15 3 #81
Picked mine up earlier, hasn't failed yet.
JoeSpur to spaceinvader
24 Nov 15 #123
Give it some time :laughing:
no1knows
23 Nov 15 #112
Thanks. Ordered 4 on ebay!
n3m3s1s to no1knows
24 Nov 15 1 #122
4 x 5 TB ....mmm think I'm gonna just hang on and wait for a 1PB HDD
Mathaeus
24 Nov 15 #121
A big basket of eggs.. Cheap though :smiley: heat
someperson
23 Nov 15 #109
Is there a way to check if it has a Green drive or Red drive inside without opening it up?
dezontk to someperson
23 Nov 15 1 #110
Probably with some kind of SMART software or other HDD software that gives you a serial or model number. Using the default USB caddy that is.
BigYoSpeck to someperson
24 Nov 15 2 #119
Yeah it may show up the model number in device manager or failing that CrystalDiskInfo will tell you.

WD50EZRX = Green
WD50EFRX = Red
redflash to someperson
24 Nov 15 #120
Yes, shine a torch down the top of the drive, with the right angle you can see the top of the sticker which will be the colour of the drive, it will very likely be green, mine is.
omfgzbilly
24 Nov 15 #118
Hot damn this is cheap! Do I really need another HDD? Of course I do! Thanks OP.
Midge
24 Nov 15 #117
Got on ebay also, thanks.
sergiup
24 Nov 15 #116
So they do! For some reason I'd searched quickly and thought it was only one year - but even according to their specs, it's 2 years. Even better - cheaper and double the warranty! :smile:

http://www.wdc.com/wdproducts/library/AAG/ENG/4178-705859.pdf
adam1314
24 Nov 15 #115
ordered 2 from ebay store. save 80 quid :smiley:
DennisG
24 Nov 15 3 #114
I heard that if you type lmgtfy into lmgtfy, you might break the internet
Spark
23 Nov 15 #18
I think I may have just found my new Xbox One HDD, thanks. :smiley:
NathRogerzz to Spark
24 Nov 15 #113
This deffo works for Xbox One?
dipeshkhagram
23 Nov 15 #111
Nice one.
CeeJay1975
23 Nov 15 #108
Great price, I paid that for the 3tb version about 6 months ago. Perfect to use along with your Xbox One, you shouldn't need to get any more storage for the life of the console, HOT!
blitzmmccv
23 Nov 15 1 #107
Bravo!
sergiup
23 Nov 15 #101
Thanks, ordered via Fleabay and cancelled the 5TB Seagate from Amazon - I figure either one will do, they both have only 1 year of warranty, and this is only for a third backup that I'll take offsite... Paranoia much? :neutral_face:
ando to sergiup
23 Nov 15 1 #106
Western digital drives come with 2 years warranty.
popoyaya
23 Nov 15 3 #105
rexxyic4
23 Nov 15 #104
Brilliant, thank you!
huangxq2
23 Nov 15 #103
thanks, ordered from ebay for delivery.

hot.
someperson
23 Nov 15 #102
Thanks, cant resist a big hard drive, ordered from ebay.
DennisG
23 Nov 15 2 #100
what's lmgtfy? can't be bovvered to search ..lol..
Rich44
23 Nov 15 2 #99
So buy two and back one to the other (buy two different makes/models) problem solved well unless your house burns down but in that case I think 5TB of data will be the last of your worries!!
Orcinus_orca
23 Nov 15 #86
Cloud storage is the present and the future.
BigDave to Orcinus_orca
23 Nov 15 39 #87
Guess what your cloud data is ultimately stored on. THAT'S RIGHT!
BigYoSpeck to Orcinus_orca
23 Nov 15 3 #89
Well in the Zombie apocalypse don't be after coming round to mine to watch old episodes of Black Adder because you had faith in the cloud.
Rich44 to Orcinus_orca
23 Nov 15 #97
Yeah that's really useful when your internet goes pop! Also unless you're getting a deal like Office 365 the price is ridiculous compared to local storage pricing
jldevoy
23 Nov 15 1 #96
I have been brainwashed into being a good consumer, im really tempted to get one despite my pc having 3tb free space on it.
crazyhorse
23 Nov 15 2 #95
More like your ignorance was showing. Hard drive capacity is always labelled in decimal.
kg1986
23 Nov 15 #94
I'm so tempted, down to my last 1Tb on a 4Tb raid 1. I really cant decide :\
Aki316
23 Nov 15 #93
got two, thanks
mossyb
23 Nov 15 #92
Great price. Reliable brand. Heat added.
merchant_ac
23 Nov 15 1 #91
The bare drive itself is probably designated as OEM with no separate warranty. The manufacturer will have recorded the serial no. of the bare drive as having been supplied as part of an external drive, and would only provide a warranty for the complete product (i.e. encased drive and PSU).
drharish36
23 Nov 15 2 #90
That's a lot of porn
BigYoSpeck
23 Nov 15 1 #88
Yeah cheers for the heads up didn't think to look on ebay. The lack of delivery was my only bug bear.
dsdans
23 Nov 15 #79
Was about to buy this, but can somebody please explain this whole green/red thing to me please? Thanks"
WaveMotionEngine to dsdans
23 Nov 15 2 #80
Sounds like a lmgtfy.com opportunity...
BigYoSpeck to dsdans
23 Nov 15 2 #85
Green - parks it's heads after a short time to save energy but negatively affects reliability and will screw up a RAID array. Can have the head park time lengthened using a downloadable program

Red - Also includes TLER and 3D Active Balance Plus both of which make it more suitable to run in RAID. Also has a longer warranty.
crofter
23 Nov 15 10 #84
Nice price - ordered a couple from the Currys Ebay site as I fancied paypal and 2 weeks to pay it ... :sunglasses:

Anybody not getting home delivery options on the Currys site get on the ebay deal ...:smirk:
Broadsands
23 Nov 15 #83
These are £141.00 on Amazon!
Matholwch
23 Nov 15 1 #82
Green is low energy consumption and I guess a slower rpm? Red are suitable for NAS - as these are pretty large drives the assumption is that most people want them for storage, so red is more useful.
DJW1
23 Nov 15 3 #78
nope, just thought typing "Just a Bunch Of Delicous-eggs" or JBOD would to obvious... obviously not.
Adam2050
23 Nov 15 #77
Can't see how you void the actual drives warranty, you haven't opened the actual drive. Warranty on the caddy will be void. Would be a strange one for them not to let you claim for a failed drive if it occurred.
Mecoconuts
23 Nov 15 #76
...somebody missed the point ....lol
DJW1
23 Nov 15 2 #75
nope, just a bunch of eggs!
Siilver
23 Nov 15 #74
Same here don't need a new drive, I have a 3tb with everything on it. Plex and all. But it's a few years old now and still is good. Wd for you. I have one tb still empty. So I don't need a new drive lol
EvilMatt
23 Nov 15 6 #71
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jamgin to EvilMatt
23 Nov 15 5 #73
Go on now, you know you want another hard drive.

https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/mrs-doyle.jpg
BigYoSpeck
23 Nov 15 1 #72
Time was 5gb wasn't a small amount of data. It's just an amount of data which is a pain to lose no matter how much. Hard drives fail, it happens. Sensible data management is your best defence. I'm not going to keep the only copy of baby pictures on this and cross my fingers. That stuff gets kept on my pc internal storage drive, a smaller than this external drive and in the cloud.

A film/tv library though it's just easier to plonk on one big drive. Having multiple drives means multiple chances of failure. If you have that much data to store you have that much data to store, no point in worrying about redundancy and backsups of stuff that you can always re-download and that you probably have a friend who's library you can leach again in the event of a failure.
Siilver
23 Nov 15 2 #70
some people just worry, life is too short lol. back up and twice and don't worry
waynepennington7
23 Nov 15 #69
Ty 2 reserved :-)
TheBiker
23 Nov 15 #68
I intend using it with my Xbox One so its not going to be irreplaceable.
Mecoconuts
23 Nov 15 1 #65
WTF ...i say it from experience......had too many new large drives fail over the years as the manufacturers haven't ironed out the bugs yet.

Once i see failure rate then i'll consider buying !
BigYoSpeck
23 Nov 15 3 #64
Between Google Drive/Photos/Music, Onedrive and Dropbox most people can keep everything irreplaceable in the cloud.

I suspect most people use for these will be massive libraries of downloaded linux iso's which push comes to shove you can always get again.

Anyone who has the potential of 5TB of data that is critical probably isn't going to use a consumer grade external hard drive.

Good price, good drive. Pain that delivery isn't available and my nearest store was already out of stock. Stuck a reservation in at the next nearest so I'll see if anything better pops up before tomorrow.
cat123
23 Nov 15 #63
Are the green and red drives not the same except for the firmware?
Mecoconuts
23 Nov 15 #62
EH ? What difference will that make ? ...it takes 9.5hrs to full format this drive !
bboy256
23 Nov 15 6 #61
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Paris_Tuileries_Garden_Facepalm_statue.jpg

​It was only a matter of time before some comes out with the old "this drive is too big (don't trust it), I might loose my entire cat video collection". You could say this for any storage product. It's like saying "you should stay clear of using large amounts of NON-ECC RAM, because there is a higher likelihood of cosmic rays causing a bit to flip and corrupting a file being written to the hard drive". I agree not all hard drives are equal in reliability but claiming size as the determining factor is a little bit silly.
jeczap
23 Nov 15 #60
9.5hrs? upgrade your machine
duckdodgersuk
23 Nov 15 #59
Green... :disappointed: WD Red's FTW! :sunglasses:
Rotmm
23 Nov 15 #58
Nice. Reserved one for the Xbox One. Can then download and store ALL my games as well as my Backward Compatible titles and have plenty of space to spare :smiley:
Broadsands
23 Nov 15 #57
Thanks. Reserved. Currys were OOS but the local PC World have one. At the moment I have a 1GB external drive and a 2GB external drive - both of which are full and neither of which are backed up :confused:
cabbage10
23 Nov 15 #56
Brill
Cretus Maximus
23 Nov 15 #26
Stunning value thanks OP. Reserved one and almost went for two but that's getting silly
Shard to Cretus Maximus
23 Nov 15 #55
I always buy two, but I'm well aware that I'm silly
ronbold
23 Nov 15 #54
nice price
bluenosebignelly
23 Nov 15 1 #53
isnt it refreshing, hdd's at good prices....long may these storage prices fall!
Mecoconuts
23 Nov 15 1 #52
......Looks like the grammar police are online tonight ...ROFL !! .... i think you'll find most intellectuals on here knew exactly what i was talking about....LOL
whiteside_90
23 Nov 15 1 #51
How would this rate for an Xbox One external drive?
TehJumpingJawa
23 Nov 15 3 #50
Correct, not the 4.5TB you said previously.
Mecoconuts
23 Nov 15 1 #49
No i'm not .........this drive formatted is 4.5TiB !
Biggunspaul
23 Nov 15 #48
Anybody had any dealings with the WD MY CLOUD,if so are they any good ?
TehJumpingJawa
23 Nov 15 3 #47
You're confusing TB & TiB.
It's precisely 5TB. 5 Trillion bytes.
Meathotukdeals
23 Nov 15 #45
OOS near me :disappointed:
jamgin
23 Nov 15 5 #44
Is that a RAID 5 OR RAID 10 egg basket?
Cstark
23 Nov 15 1 #42
I just collected a couple from store, got 2x Blue
Mecoconuts
23 Nov 15 #41
Not forgetting the 9.5hrs it'll take to format it ....lol....AND it's only really 4.5TB.
hesproic
23 Nov 15 3 #40
"Blessed is the Pessimist as he hath made the backup"

These big drives are fine as long as you are prepared to lose one with a catastrophic failure. I'd want a full local backup of everything on the drive plus a cloud/off-site copy of the most important data. A season of Breaking Bad is replaceable. Family photos aren't.
spaceinvader
23 Nov 15 2 #39
You'd have to be pretty naive to store all your important stuff on one external HDD.
udhuk
23 Nov 15 2 #38
You need more eggs, and maybe some where to backup your eggs. (oh, 5tb scarry!)
RockStyle
23 Nov 15 #37
Cheers for the heads-up OP. Ordered.

Will be well chuffed if it comes with a WD Red.
youcantbeserious
23 Nov 15 5 #36
Great for a back up of the back up
davem
23 Nov 15 7 #35
That's what backups are for.
Mecoconuts
23 Nov 15 3 #34
Really ?....... I don't own any drives over 1TB now .......lost too much data over the years.
Spark
23 Nov 15 10 #33
A couple of years ago, people said that about 2TB drives but nobody thinks twice about using those now.
Mecoconuts
23 Nov 15 10 #32
5TB is a shedload to lose when it fails !!

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/03/07/article-2289600-1880A0AD000005DC-189_634x452.jpg
davem
23 Nov 15 #31
Couldn't help myself, ordered another :smiley:
slipd
23 Nov 15 #30
Cracking price! Must be the best price currently on for a 5tb external drive?

And WD too! Just in time to replace my aging 1.5tb Samsung which is nearly full :smile:

Heat OP!
colthillary
23 Nov 15 #29
Thanks OP, ordered me one for collection.

Bargain of a drive
Hootwo
23 Nov 15 1 #28
A WD50EZRX green drive delivered for £90 - awesome!
And an ordering/delivery website that works properly and recognises addresses - bonus (yes, looking at you Tesco online)
Thanks gooner, Hot as ...
EastLondon
23 Nov 15 #25
pretty much :smiley:
revolver31
23 Nov 15 2 #24
So luck of the draw by the looks of it (some are red some green) which means ye we will get greens :smirk:
shikztheurbanlegend
23 Nov 15 #22
are these the mybooks ? they look exact but didnt see mybook in title. just checking incase they dropped the word mybook for it
EastLondon to shikztheurbanlegend
23 Nov 15 1 #23
afaik the mybooks are networked
Cstark
23 Nov 15 #19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5Epy5Ugj7k - This guy got a Green drive, I'm guessing they will all be the same?
revolver31
23 Nov 15 2 #17
U.S thread started in april guys opened them up here have a read https://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=39200.0
udhuk
23 Nov 15 #16
It's them voices again
udhuk
23 Nov 15 #13
TCB 1.05% I think.

1 orderd for home delivery cheers op! (restrained from buying 2...just lol
Frank30uk
23 Nov 15 1 #14
Super price and love WD drives. Have some more heat! :sunglasses:
davem
23 Nov 15 #10
Ordered - cheers OP :smiley:
coolhotcold
23 Nov 15 2 #8
Grab it now, if it drops in price within 7 days you can get the difference refunded.

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/price-promise-1023-theme.html
udhuk to coolhotcold
23 Nov 15 #9
True, and can alway return if cheaper elseware, with the free delivery/distance selling regs
udhuk
23 Nov 15 #7
Will there be cheaper black friday... no idea, at this price it may be worth just grabbing now I think.
floppydesk
23 Nov 15 1 #6
have some heat
revolver31
23 Nov 15 #2
Can this one be opened up and the drive taken out of is it soldered on.
udhuk to revolver31
23 Nov 15 2 #5
If it's the same as the 4TB... I removed np and fitted internally. warrantee voided though as it'll never go back together properly again, use a old credit card to open it up.

WD Green inside the 4TB btw
ando
23 Nov 15 4 #4
£18 a TB :confused:

Just not a fan of such a huge single drive, heat added though for the price


Previous models all have removable drives don't see this being any different
davem
23 Nov 15 #3
Can the HD be taken out or used as a sata drive or is the USB interface part of the drive ?
udhuk
23 Nov 15 #1
cool, good price.. heat
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3 stars +170

Pyrex square dish 21cm x 21cm

£0.50
Instore Morrisons10 Oct 17
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Whyte & Mackay Special Blended Scotch Whisky 70cl
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Whyte & Mackay Special Blended Scotch Whisky 70cl

£10 Sainsburys10 Oct 17
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Huawei Smart Watch with Link Band Silver
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Huawei Smart Watch with Link Band Silver

£149 Huawei Honor Store10 Oct 17
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ASUS G11CD Gaming PC
4 stars +361

ASUS G11CD Gaming PC

£499.97 Currys10 Oct 17
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iPhone lightning cable - super cheap (C&C)
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iPhone lightning cable - super cheap (C&C)

£1.97 Currys10 Oct 17
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Xbox One Elite controller PLUS either Middle-earth: Shadow of War or Forza Motorsport 7
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Lego Friends Calender
3 stars +168

Lego Friends Calender

£15.98
£3.99 P&P + options Amazon UK10 Oct 17
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Double LEGO VIP Points
3 stars +179

Double LEGO VIP Points

Lego10 Oct 17
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Graco Fast Action Fold Travel System in Bowtie Bear @ Tesco Direct (more in OP)
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Graco Fast Action Fold Travel System in Bowtie Bear @ Tesco Direct (more in OP)

£98 £200 Tesco Direct10 Oct 17
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Gears Of War 4 Steelbook Edition (Xbox One) (Open Box)
3 stars +129

Gears Of War 4 Steelbook Edition (Xbox One) (Open Box)

£12.99 Studentcomputers.co.uk10 Oct 17
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The Body Shop Sale Now On Plus 50% Code when you spend
3.5 stars +288

The Body Shop Sale Now On Plus 50% Code when you spend

£40
Free P&P 10 Oct 17
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