A 4K phone and 1gb data that's not a marriage made in heaven shall we say :wink:

They never made a Z4 though, no wonder you're angry.

Same deal on Amazon, bought yesterday. You can choose you airtime and all of them are way cheapre than in O2 shop or website.

Im stuck with this predicament too, they would not even get close to the prices on mobile.co.uk, pretty upset really considering I have had 3 phone contracts with them for 6+ years. Don't know if their policy changed, because they matched mobiles.co.uk sony z1 price for me when I upgraded 2 years ago...

I am an existing O2 customer and can upgrade and the tariffs on mobiles.co.uk are much better.

Do O2 price match them if you phone them up?

No this is HotUKDeals, there isn't a UK Xperia Z4, it was only ever released in Japan. It's called Z3+ in all other countries which is what it effectively is.

Lol,,aren't you arguing against yourself there?

One of the reviews I read recently - can't recall which one - said that 4K vids on Youtube are downscaled to 1080

Which by definition means they did make it, just branded it as Z3+ over here as it was such an incremental update from Z3 :wink:

I use a 50 inch 4k TV as a phone. Wouldn't want my eyes to explode from too much squinting. I don't get any odd looks whatsoever, although it is tricky to find a phone case that fits well.

Nope they made a Z3+ they didn't make a Z4, it may have been called Z4 in other countries.

They did, it's called the Z4 in japan, Z3+ in europe.

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3+-6878.php

(not saying I believe he has one, but who cares :smile:)

After Z4 I will not be buying Sony mobile again. Shocking build quality. Read reviews and just see.

Good on them if they have finally come to their senses!


Looks like they have managed to tame the Snapdragon 810 in the Z5 for most part, still can't record for too long (over 10 minutes) in 4K but that's an issue that most phones suffer due to processing power required.

Wouldn't downscale any true 4k content, unless of course you ask it to. As mentioned 4k only works when you're watching videos or browsing photographs but we will see what happens when Marshmallow hits it as that meant to have full support for 4k screens.

Seems like that strategy has come to an end, Z6 isn't due till late next year apparently (unless they are planning on a Z5+ in between...).

Doesn't this downscale to 1080P to show videos?

Is there a problem with this phone where it overheats and then shuts down?

How much for a part time 4k phone? Ouch

Which is an awful strategy seeing how SOCs operate on an annual cycle as does most other tech not to mention majority of phone contracts are on even longer 24 months terms. I simply cannot fathom the reason behind pushing a flagship every 6 months with near identical specs, for those wanting latest tech this is probably more off putting knowing there's a near identical phone with different name that's "newer". It really does boggle the mind as it must tie up so many resources in a division that is losing money hand over fist and only exists because the rest of Sony can support it.

The Z5 and Premium at least does offer a new OIS in video that is miles ahead of the competition, bigger screen with 4k and larger battery along with the usual waterproofing that originally made the series popular which probably makes it the least incremental update for the Z line. Ultimately as always it's up to the consumer to vote with their wallet but I want to see the product line do well which is why it's frustrating watching Sony sabotage themselves.

£735 for a phone, yet the same people that buy these phones every year complain about spending £400 on a graphics card that will last them 3 years !

Lack of 4k content is the biggest problem but that's the case with most cutting edge technologies while the rest of the industry catches up. Technically speaking the best application for that resolution is going to be with the VR gear where it will make a huge difference.

Again though problem is that I don't think Sony will catch up themselves, by the time they release a VR headset new generation of phones will be hitting us in Q2 2016. Sony will be missing the opportunity to get on the market early making this a rather superfluous feature in this phone, particularly with their baffling 6 month release schedule on flagships. Still nice to see manufacturers pushing the boat with new technology but wish they would concentrate on other more groundbreaking features.

this phone will do 4K for media content only. The screen will run in 1080p mode the rest of the time. Which is fine - saves on the battery. So would you see any material difference between this screen with more pixels but running 1080p pixels over a native 1080p scree?

The content matters because without any 4K content - difficult to justify the need for the screen and price. I'd probably try to do a comparison of Youtube 4K on this compared to 1080p Youtube on another phone to see if you can tell the difference at these sizes.

nice

I've been using a 9" Pipo T9S tablet as my phone (it takes a SIM and reports it's self as a phone) since I broke my z2 screen. Also rarely make calls and will either use it on speaker phone or with a headset.

Will wait until the new Ultra comes out before even thinking about a new phone. My 15" laptop's 4k screen is 'nice' though not massively useful over 1080p (for instance, avatars on social media often look noticeably more 'defined'). Makes a decent difference having 4k on a 28" monitor. Less sure about a screen at this size, though could be good for those 'vr goggle' cardboard kits!

Who says I use it against my ear? For the 10 minutes of calls I make every month I have the headset and watch if need be.

The phone is probably the most used device by every person nowadays. I would hate to squint reading stuff on a small screen 5+ hours every day.

are there any actual apps, like netflix 4K enabled for this phone?

How would you get ANY 4K content on these devices?

As your statement was still a generalisation (instead of stating "it's too big for me), their response was suitably generalising.

So you're both wrong, now pack it in before I send you both to bed without pudding.

Well I expressed an opinion (IMO = in my opinion). As such it can't really be wrong, but thanks for your input. I'm sure you don't attract any strange looks at all with an 8 inch tablet pressed to your ear, Mr Jolly. No more than when you tell people their opinion's wrong, anyway.

Wrong, its actually still too small.

I use the 8inch Z3 tablet as my phone since there is no sign of a Z Ultra replacement. The Z5 premium would be the minimum size I would go for.

I'm not sure if I should get this or wait til April when apparently z5 ultra gets released. ultra model has got 6.44" 4k screen, 4gb ram, snapdragon 820 chip, 23mp camera with the 0.03 sec hybrid autofocus

Another Ultra would be great!

Tempted by this but does it still have the overheating issues ?

Yea it was through mobiles.co.uk go on the z5 premium n just keep scrolling down the deals quite far down think the code was PAYOCT don't know if it will work still did mine last Friday

freezing cold

Iv just got the same deal but £31 for 3gb I got the £10 off code and £10 quidco back

A 4K phone and 1gb data that's not a marriage made in heaven shall we say :wink: