Argos is having a deal Seagate 5TB Desktop USB 3.0 + McAfee Internet Security 2016.
Just reserved one. Not sure whether is compatible with X-Box.
If everyone was wondering whether the product is the same as Amazon. Yes it is the same. The series number is STEB5000200 is written at the box that i just bought back from Argos.
Amazon link = http://www.amazon.co.uk/Seagate-Expansion-Desktop-External-Drive/dp/B00UNA1O0W?tag=hotukdeals03-21
10 Port USB 3.0 Hub (USB Attached SCSI)
Port 1 2TB Seagate Expansion Portable (Samsung M9T)
Port 2 2TB Seagate Expansion Portable (Samsung M9T)
Port 3 2TB Seagate Expansion Portable (Samsung M9T)
Port 4 320gb Seagate Backup+ Portable Samsung HM320JI (Spare drive fitted in the Casing after i shucked the 3 Internal M9T's)
Port 5 320gb Seagate Backup+ Portable Seagate Momentus Thin (Spare drive fitted in the Casing after i shucked the 3 Internal M9T's)
Port 6 320gb Seagate Backup+ Portable Toshiba MK3265GSX (Spare drive fitted in the Casing after i shucked the 3 Internal M9T's)
6 Gbps Esata Port Multiplier capable of 430 Megabytes a second actual traffic in each direction (Shared between the 4 3.5" Esata Drives)
5 Gbps USB Controller capable of 270 Megabytes a second actual traffic in each direction (Shared between the 6 USB Attached SCSI Drives)
All other drives on dedicated ports
BigYoSpeck
21 Nov 153#46
5 out of 6 people that play Russian Roulette have a personal experience that it's safe.
The huge failure rate for Seagate was predominately the 3TB drives, but their entire range has a higher failure rate than WD and HGST
BubaMan
21 Nov 153#29
Hot!
I see Amazon have matched so I've bought it from there as I had £50 in vouchers to spend.
Been waiting for this to drop - Thanks for the heads-up OP :smiley:
the__cat
21 Nov 153#16
Some people haven't got a Scooby.
Seagate had issues with their 2 and 3TB drives but the 4 and 5 are far more reliable.
It goes without saying; if you can't afford to lose the data stored on the drive back it up to something else too.
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andywedge
21 Nov 151#1
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janlim
21 Nov 151#2
Thank you - andywedge
sowotsdis
21 Nov 152#3
add summat to get over £100 & you get £10 GV
bargains496 to sowotsdis
21 Nov 15#56
The £10 VOUCHER offer has finished in the 19th Nov :disappointed:
carrotming
21 Nov 15#4
I think to use with xbox it has to be usb 3.0 so this should be ok :innocent:
BigYoSpeck
21 Nov 153#5
Great price for the capacity. I've reserved one while I consider the Seagate failure rate and make up my mind.
Flubit also gave an instant offer of £96.99
watson44 to BigYoSpeck
21 Nov 151#9
one of mine has recently had the click of death, no possible way of getting the stuff back without paying out a small fortune
janlim
21 Nov 151#6
£10 voucher for every £100 spent. Has it expired?
K1LLER HORNET
21 Nov 15#7
Should be fine with an xbox one.
I've got a 5TB Toshiba drive plugged into mine and it was detected just fine.
udhuk
21 Nov 151#8
good price (lost my faith in seagate though after couple of drive failures)
huangxq2 to udhuk
21 Nov 152#43
Me too.
I am now only buy WD Red or Black.
Although this price is good. I am not taking the chance.
Originally I was thinking of upgrading my storage to 8TB per drive, and the price is around 180-200 per drive.
But given I had bad experience with Seagate and their 8TB drive do not have good review, I give up on that as well.
BigYoSpeck
21 Nov 151#10
Yeah the failure rates for their drives in recent years is appalling, I don't think I can take a chance to be honest.
watson44
21 Nov 15#11
its the laser bit at he end of the arm that goes bad (it can't read the platters so just skims back and forth). to lose 5GB of stuff is not the end of the world, but 5TB could be
as I've recently re-installed Win7, (had issues with Win10) i used Hard Drive Inspector, it did correctly detect a Samsung drive was soon to fail, just wish it been running this time last week
AppStar
21 Nov 15#12
So if Seagate isn't that reliable then which manufacturers do you guys recommend?
huangxq2 to AppStar
21 Nov 151#45
WD red drive have good reliablity.
It is slightly more expensive than other HDD.
3TB for £85 on amazon.
WD Black is also good too, but the price is too high, at least twice compare to a normal HDD.
Monzer to AppStar
21 Nov 151#54
There really is only three main HDD manufacturers now: WD, Seagate and Toshiba.
WD and Seagate are the biggest and they own most of the others e.g. Seagate owns Samsung HDD manufacture.
Check out Backblaze and see what they are finding the most reliable atm. I understand post-Tsunami Seagate might be ok again...
cburns
21 Nov 152#13
Do this only if you know you can't get it back up......it's a bit drastic
Put it in a bag in the freezer for at least 6hrs...plug into laptop/pc... then trans data to another portable drive...
it does work as I've done this a few times....it's has to be repeated over (freezer then connect)
until you get most of your stuff off :wink:
jasee
21 Nov 151#14
Laser bit! You mean magnet head, I think (this isn't an optical disk :smiley: )
robjewitt
21 Nov 152#15
Toshiba and WD have better longevity than Seagate
the__cat
21 Nov 153#16
Some people haven't got a Scooby.
Seagate had issues with their 2 and 3TB drives but the 4 and 5 are far more reliable.
It goes without saying; if you can't afford to lose the data stored on the drive back it up to something else too.
merchant_ac
21 Nov 151#17
Perhaps he got an an advance production Heat-assisted magnetic recording drive (HAMR)?!
This seems a ridiculous technique, I don't see why they just don't use more real platters, the number seems to have decreased over the years.
And I don't like 'skim' actually they float.
trending1950
21 Nov 15#20
is the McAfee Internet Security 2016 license for 1 or 2 years thanks the q & a won't load for me
sradmad
21 Nov 151#21
good find op, heat
pablomalin
21 Nov 151#22
10% off if through nationwide
WaveMotionEngine
21 Nov 15#23
Severely tempted, but I just had a very lightly-used Seagate drive die on me (albeit a 3TB). If I can find a source that Seagate has fully resolved its prior reliability issues with this larger-capacity drive, I might take the risk.
118luke to WaveMotionEngine
21 Nov 151#26
No problems here (in a HP Microserver):
3miel
21 Nov 15#24
this is 2,5" or 3,5" ??
xela333 to 3miel
21 Nov 15#27
3.5" so has to be plugged into the mains. There are no portable or 2.5" tb drives yet.
huangxq2 to 3miel
21 Nov 15#44
Sure it is 3.5 inch. It is called desktop hard drive. If it is 2.5 inch, normally would say removable hard drive.
And also, I do not think as at today, 5TB 2.5 inch are available to the consumer market.
Painterz1
21 Nov 151#25
Cold I'm afraid. People should check the failure rates on these big seagate drives before buying. Way too much of a risk. One in five buyers will lose their data each year of use.
118luke to Painterz1
21 Nov 15#28
I tend to go off experience before i go off 3rd party reports. 100% no failure rate from me thus far - that includes a few 1TB/2TB drives i had before the 5TB drive shown above.
BubaMan
21 Nov 153#29
Hot!
I see Amazon have matched so I've bought it from there as I had £50 in vouchers to spend.
Been waiting for this to drop - Thanks for the heads-up OP :smiley:
S c 0 TT y
21 Nov 15#30
Whats the cheapest item i can add to get it over £100 for the £10 gift card?
Thanks
janlim to S c 0 TT y
21 Nov 15#32
I thought the give card has expired on 19/11/2015?
janlim
21 Nov 15#31
Argos comes with free McAfee Internet Security 2016
BubaMan
21 Nov 15#33
More reason to go with Amazon then :stuck_out_tongue:
Seriously though, the Argos deal is better as you get vouchers back, but for me, it was better to use up my Amazon credit.
Bully
21 Nov 15#34
The free voucher promotion has ended.
MORE4
21 Nov 15#35
My Seagate Expansion 3TB version failed. I sent it to Seagate and they sent me a replacement which also failed
My 2x Seagate 4TB BackUp PLus have however been fine
BubaMan
21 Nov 15#36
OK - comes down to whether you think McAfee is worth having then...
It's far too hard on system resources to let it touch any of my my devices but some people might think it's worth something.
Rich44
21 Nov 152#37
Shame about Samsung selling out to Seagate only ever had one hard drive fail out of hundreds back then and return depot was on surrey not Europe oh well.
Never trusted Seagate had too many bad experiences when I was a field engineer esp the ones that had a stupid bit of rubber around them that just trapped heat in.
Don't really pay much attention to brands these days they all have their good batches and bad batches if you want best possible integrity buy 2 different brand externals the same size and back up one to the other, hopefully that way you mitigate the risk by the fact two different brands are unlikely to fail simultaneously.
WaveMotionEngine
21 Nov 151#38
Thank you for that graphical evidence, Luke. My 3TB Seagate drive failed after approximately 54 days (equivalent) of being powered on. A quick search online showed that the model was renowned for failing (wish I'd known before!) - so my search for a replacement has led me to regard the Seagate brand with caution. Your experience has leveled the balance for me. :smiley:
r1gav
21 Nov 15#39
Cheers just bought one for £90 using the Amazon prime now app with £10 off code
merchant_ac
21 Nov 151#40
Most drives look like that until they fail! Unfortunately SMART data is not very good at predicting failure.
Teddox
21 Nov 151#41
Got four of these earlier in the year when they were £119.99 each then de-shelled and used them in my pc and now my microserver. Did have it running in a Raid5 for a while but moved to 2x mirrors now in case of issues. If you do decide to remove the drives remember that they use a crippled firmware designed for USB use. I would not put these in hardware raid setups, storage spaces works great though as it gets freaked out less.
Harryisme
21 Nov 15#42
Tempting, 5TB seems overkill for a external drive for the XBO but with game sizes nowadays it might be worth the purchase...specially with BC adding more titles to my library.
BigYoSpeck
21 Nov 153#46
5 out of 6 people that play Russian Roulette have a personal experience that it's safe.
The huge failure rate for Seagate was predominately the 3TB drives, but their entire range has a higher failure rate than WD and HGST
udhuk
21 Nov 151#47
WD or Tosh is my bag now, will take something real special to get me to buy another seaflake.
Click of death be-gone!
Shonk
21 Nov 151#48
You havnt reached the magic number yet 20k hours spinup
I had one drive go at 20k hours thats been binned
Another has just reached 20k hours and has reallocated sectors popping up daily since 20k
The other two drives have around 16k hours and are still ok so about 4k hours left in them
These are lightly used storage drives with spindown enabled and headparking disabled on every boot
Using it only as a seed drive atm will swap it out in the next few weeks for a 5TB Toshiba
krazyasif786
21 Nov 15#49
What's the name of the software you're using?
ramtec
21 Nov 152#50
hard disk sentinel pro at a guess :wink:
maradona
21 Nov 15#51
i purchased the 4tb one yesterday for 89.99 now its 79.99... is there a chance i can get the £10 difference back? i havent used it yet
also, i notice that the 4tb does not have the small triangles type shell like the 2/3/5tb drives... is this 4tb one the older model?
and is my 4tb drive only designed to sit horizontally? id prefer it to stand vertically
GDB2222 to maradona
21 Nov 15#53
Depends on the retailer whether they will give you £10 back. They have no obligation to. Some of them allow returns of unused goods, so return it and buy it back more cheaply?
Bubuka83
21 Nov 15#52
great find thank you!
alexfn
21 Nov 15#55
Sata controller on my mb went yday.. First one drive started acting up. A few hours later i hadn't even finished running disc diagnostics on that one when my other 3 + ssd all went at the same time. Ive lost about 1% of my data across the 5 drives due to corruption.. Not nearly as bad as i thought when the first one started playing up i thought i was going to lose the lot... Bought this in a panic to back up some data now everyone is saying they are crap haha cant win...
nigelhooper
21 Nov 15#57
Damn that looks like a decent rig, makes my setup look puny by comparison. Any chance you can can share the specs so I can drool a bit more?
10 Port USB 3.0 Hub (USB Attached SCSI)
Port 1 2TB Seagate Expansion Portable (Samsung M9T)
Port 2 2TB Seagate Expansion Portable (Samsung M9T)
Port 3 2TB Seagate Expansion Portable (Samsung M9T)
Port 4 320gb Seagate Backup+ Portable Samsung HM320JI (Spare drive fitted in the Casing after i shucked the 3 Internal M9T's)
Port 5 320gb Seagate Backup+ Portable Seagate Momentus Thin (Spare drive fitted in the Casing after i shucked the 3 Internal M9T's)
Port 6 320gb Seagate Backup+ Portable Toshiba MK3265GSX (Spare drive fitted in the Casing after i shucked the 3 Internal M9T's)
6 Gbps Esata Port Multiplier capable of 430 Megabytes a second actual traffic in each direction (Shared between the 4 3.5" Esata Drives)
5 Gbps USB Controller capable of 270 Megabytes a second actual traffic in each direction (Shared between the 6 USB Attached SCSI Drives)
All other drives on dedicated ports
Opening post
Just reserved one. Not sure whether is compatible with X-Box.
If everyone was wondering whether the product is the same as Amazon. Yes it is the same. The series number is STEB5000200 is written at the box that i just bought back from Argos.
Amazon link = http://www.amazon.co.uk/Seagate-Expansion-Desktop-External-Drive/dp/B00UNA1O0W?tag=hotukdeals03-21
Hopefully it helps.
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Microserver Gen8
Xeon 1265L V2 3.1ghz 8 Thread
16 GB Ram
Intel PCH Ports
Port 1 240GB SSD 2.5"
Port 2 6TB WD 3.5"
Port 3 6TB WD 3.5"
Port 4 5TB Toshiba 3.5"
Port 5 5TB Toshiba 3.5"
Marvell 9230 (PCIE 2.0 x2)
Internal 1 2TB Samsung M9T 2.5"
Internal 2 2TB Samsung M9T 2.5"
Internal 3 2TB Samsung M9T 2.5"
External 4 3TB Toshiba 3.5" (Esata 6gbps FIS PM) (Was Seagate 3TB Died Buffalo Replaced the drive with a Toshiba)
External 5 3TB Seagate 3.5" (Esata 6gbps FIS PM)
External 6 3TB Seagate 3.5" (Esata 6gbps FIS PM)
External 7 3TB Seagate 3.5" (Esata 6gbps FIS PM) (Dying being swapped out for Toshiba 5TB)
10 Port USB 3.0 Hub (USB Attached SCSI)
Port 1 2TB Seagate Expansion Portable (Samsung M9T)
Port 2 2TB Seagate Expansion Portable (Samsung M9T)
Port 3 2TB Seagate Expansion Portable (Samsung M9T)
Port 4 320gb Seagate Backup+ Portable Samsung HM320JI (Spare drive fitted in the Casing after i shucked the 3 Internal M9T's)
Port 5 320gb Seagate Backup+ Portable Seagate Momentus Thin (Spare drive fitted in the Casing after i shucked the 3 Internal M9T's)
Port 6 320gb Seagate Backup+ Portable Toshiba MK3265GSX (Spare drive fitted in the Casing after i shucked the 3 Internal M9T's)
Internal Headers
Samsung G2 Portable Deshelled 320GB (Samsung HM321HX) (Internal USB Header)
Samsung UHS-1 Micro SD 64GB (Onboard Micro SD Reader)
19 Drives
9 Internal
6 Gbps Esata Port Multiplier capable of 430 Megabytes a second actual traffic in each direction (Shared between the 4 3.5" Esata Drives)
5 Gbps USB Controller capable of 270 Megabytes a second actual traffic in each direction (Shared between the 6 USB Attached SCSI Drives)
All other drives on dedicated ports
The huge failure rate for Seagate was predominately the 3TB drives, but their entire range has a higher failure rate than WD and HGST
I see Amazon have matched so I've bought it from there as I had £50 in vouchers to spend.
Been waiting for this to drop - Thanks for the heads-up OP :smiley:
Seagate had issues with their 2 and 3TB drives but the 4 and 5 are far more reliable.
It goes without saying; if you can't afford to lose the data stored on the drive back it up to something else too.
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Flubit also gave an instant offer of £96.99
I've got a 5TB Toshiba drive plugged into mine and it was detected just fine.
I am now only buy WD Red or Black.
Although this price is good. I am not taking the chance.
Originally I was thinking of upgrading my storage to 8TB per drive, and the price is around 180-200 per drive.
But given I had bad experience with Seagate and their 8TB drive do not have good review, I give up on that as well.
as I've recently re-installed Win7, (had issues with Win10) i used Hard Drive Inspector, it did correctly detect a Samsung drive was soon to fail, just wish it been running this time last week
It is slightly more expensive than other HDD.
3TB for £85 on amazon.
WD Black is also good too, but the price is too high, at least twice compare to a normal HDD.
WD and Seagate are the biggest and they own most of the others e.g. Seagate owns Samsung HDD manufacture.
Check out Backblaze and see what they are finding the most reliable atm. I understand post-Tsunami Seagate might be ok again...
Put it in a bag in the freezer for at least 6hrs...plug into laptop/pc... then trans data to another portable drive...
it does work as I've done this a few times....it's has to be repeated over (freezer then connect)
until you get most of your stuff off :wink:
Seagate had issues with their 2 and 3TB drives but the 4 and 5 are far more reliable.
It goes without saying; if you can't afford to lose the data stored on the drive back it up to something else too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat-assisted_magnetic_recording
This Seagate drive does however use Shingled magnetic recording (SMR).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shingled_magnetic_recording
And I don't like 'skim' actually they float.
3.5" so has to be plugged into the mains. There are no portable or 2.5" tb drives yet.
And also, I do not think as at today, 5TB 2.5 inch are available to the consumer market.
I see Amazon have matched so I've bought it from there as I had £50 in vouchers to spend.
Been waiting for this to drop - Thanks for the heads-up OP :smiley:
Thanks
Seriously though, the Argos deal is better as you get vouchers back, but for me, it was better to use up my Amazon credit.
My 2x Seagate 4TB BackUp PLus have however been fine
It's far too hard on system resources to let it touch any of my my devices but some people might think it's worth something.
Never trusted Seagate had too many bad experiences when I was a field engineer esp the ones that had a stupid bit of rubber around them that just trapped heat in.
Don't really pay much attention to brands these days they all have their good batches and bad batches if you want best possible integrity buy 2 different brand externals the same size and back up one to the other, hopefully that way you mitigate the risk by the fact two different brands are unlikely to fail simultaneously.
The huge failure rate for Seagate was predominately the 3TB drives, but their entire range has a higher failure rate than WD and HGST
Click of death be-gone!
I had one drive go at 20k hours thats been binned
Another has just reached 20k hours and has reallocated sectors popping up daily since 20k
The other two drives have around 16k hours and are still ok so about 4k hours left in them
These are lightly used storage drives with spindown enabled and headparking disabled on every boot
Using it only as a seed drive atm will swap it out in the next few weeks for a 5TB Toshiba
also, i notice that the 4tb does not have the small triangles type shell like the 2/3/5tb drives... is this 4tb one the older model?
and is my 4tb drive only designed to sit horizontally? id prefer it to stand vertically
From the manufacturer on the Amazon link.
"Seagate Expansion 5TB USB 3.0 Desktop 3.5 inch External Hard Drive for PC & Xbox One"
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00UNA1O0W/?tag=ho01f-21
Microserver Gen8
Xeon 1265L V2 3.1ghz 8 Thread
16 GB Ram
Intel PCH Ports
Port 1 240GB SSD 2.5"
Port 2 6TB WD 3.5"
Port 3 6TB WD 3.5"
Port 4 5TB Toshiba 3.5"
Port 5 5TB Toshiba 3.5"
Marvell 9230 (PCIE 2.0 x2)
Internal 1 2TB Samsung M9T 2.5"
Internal 2 2TB Samsung M9T 2.5"
Internal 3 2TB Samsung M9T 2.5"
External 4 3TB Toshiba 3.5" (Esata 6gbps FIS PM) (Was Seagate 3TB Died Buffalo Replaced the drive with a Toshiba)
External 5 3TB Seagate 3.5" (Esata 6gbps FIS PM)
External 6 3TB Seagate 3.5" (Esata 6gbps FIS PM)
External 7 3TB Seagate 3.5" (Esata 6gbps FIS PM) (Dying being swapped out for Toshiba 5TB)
10 Port USB 3.0 Hub (USB Attached SCSI)
Port 1 2TB Seagate Expansion Portable (Samsung M9T)
Port 2 2TB Seagate Expansion Portable (Samsung M9T)
Port 3 2TB Seagate Expansion Portable (Samsung M9T)
Port 4 320gb Seagate Backup+ Portable Samsung HM320JI (Spare drive fitted in the Casing after i shucked the 3 Internal M9T's)
Port 5 320gb Seagate Backup+ Portable Seagate Momentus Thin (Spare drive fitted in the Casing after i shucked the 3 Internal M9T's)
Port 6 320gb Seagate Backup+ Portable Toshiba MK3265GSX (Spare drive fitted in the Casing after i shucked the 3 Internal M9T's)
Internal Headers
Samsung G2 Portable Deshelled 320GB (Samsung HM321HX) (Internal USB Header)
Samsung UHS-1 Micro SD 64GB (Onboard Micro SD Reader)
19 Drives
9 Internal
6 Gbps Esata Port Multiplier capable of 430 Megabytes a second actual traffic in each direction (Shared between the 4 3.5" Esata Drives)
5 Gbps USB Controller capable of 270 Megabytes a second actual traffic in each direction (Shared between the 6 USB Attached SCSI Drives)
All other drives on dedicated ports
Amazing setup!