Is Greenpeace using the most reliable and accurate ways to measure and present something like this? Lidl is near the bottom but also sells pole and line. Aldi is near the top but also sells regular cheap tuna for example.
In fact do people still trust and take Greenpeace seriously? :stuck_out_tongue:
sb123 to KongDonkey
14 Nov 15#65
Thank you for these links. Personally, I've always bought either John West or Princes (actually bought 3 lots of this actual deal today). Now that I've read these links, I'll be buying sustainable from now on.
yrreb88
13 Nov 15#64
It was just a google search, I'm not a shill for the "U.S." tuna industry or part of the global conspiracy to supress activists. If I had made my own gif or linked direct to the youtube video, I don't think you could dismiss all my other points too just with a simple strawman.
It seems to me if anyone disagrees or questions Greenpeaces' views, they must be wrong or ignorant or simply working for the industry. Essentially calling someone a shill is enough to dismiss whatever point they make regardless of whether or not it has any validity.
The French government undeniably commited a horrific act of violence against a legal non-violent protest that had no justification. There was no apology and no justice whatsoever.
They don't seem to be having much affect in Spain with their bulging shelves of tuna groaning under the strain of thousands of cans in every supermarket you walk through. Perhaps they could stage a demo in Spain and find out how long they can stay out of jail to put up their point if they are so committed.
99rb
13 Nov 15#61
You lost me there with that GIF hosted by "The “U.S.” (Thailand and Korea) canned tuna industry mouthpiece ". I doubt the veracity of anything you post.
It's thirty years since the French government bombed a Greenpeace ship in New Zealand, I guess there will always be dirty tricks by big business and government trying to stop publicly funded organisations from protesting and educating the world on the precarious situation of our ecology and environment. Nowadays, we probably see fewer government planted bombs and murder and more funding for websites like the one hosting your GIF.
Your scepticism seems to toe the line trotted out by big business and vested interests. You're hardly a free thinking sceptic, more a digester of propaganda and mouthpiece and apologist for the profit makers and establishment.
Smiley face? Not!
yrreb88
13 Nov 15#60
I see here that they're using their multi-million pound yachts gained from the large numbers of donations a year to take direct naval action. :stuck_out_tongue:
I would hope that after all that money and time spent on the sea, they'd have come up with a better solution than asking people to buy more expensive pole and line tuna and for retailers to only stock said products. At the same time they seem to be somewhat against aquaculture. Plus you'd think they'd at least try and work with the industry to an extent in order to find the best solutions like the WWF does.
Greenpeace is also against potentially life saving developments for poor countries like golden rice despite the scientific consensus supporting GMO crops. In my opinion they appear to be against evidence-based policy as shown by them playing a part in helping to scrap the post of the EU's Chief Scientific Adviser.
I, and I suspect most of the public, didn't think it was acceptable that damaged disturbed a sacred and world heritage site just to send a message.
I guess their views and cause can justify anything they do though.
I appreciate I'm just someone on a forum compared to a global NGO but I encourage skepticism of everything. :smiley:
99rb
12 Nov 15#59
Thanks but .... I'll take Greenpeace's views over your views.
They are sailing the sea taking direct naval action, not surfing on their sofa contemplating their navel.
prewar
12 Nov 15#58
Ignore this chap he's Jase99 posting under another name, renowned anti Aldi and Lidl drivel poster.
yrreb88
12 Nov 15#57
I try to get my research from slightly less biased sources than Greenpeace as they have a radical agenda and support vandalism (UNESCO heritage sites is a bit far) and junk science to justify their donation campaigns. I question whether pole and line is sustainable in terms of fuel consumption, live bait and being sufficient to supply demand without significantly increasing prices. I'm not saying we shouldn't buy unsustainable tuna of course, pole and line is a start and part of the solution but I'm just questioning whether or not Greenpeace is a reliable source of information.
Bikerdanny
12 Nov 152#52
Out of all the tins of tuna available, Aldi's line caught sustainability sourced tuna steak is the best - around 90p a can, the can is alot bigger than this chep stuff, and the tuna inside is proper tuna steak not the dreggs like this cheaper stuff. Like alot of people have said buy sustainable / dolphin friendly if your budget allows.
soldierboy001 to Bikerdanny
12 Nov 15#56
Yes 25% more at 200 gr per tin.
yrreb88
12 Nov 151#55
I "totally fabricated my statement"? Wow. The link is right there to the table showing my "fabricated" statement. There are 2 links which you obviously didn't notice. :wink:
"drivel", "nonsense"? You state "Aldi only have 5% market share" because they sell lots of low quality products yet they win supermarket of the year. I assume Waitrose must sell even lower quality stuff if it has a smaller market share then. :stuck_out_tongue:
carolemac64
12 Nov 15#54
£3 in my local morrisons !
nicblaney
12 Nov 15#46
Who knew people were so passionate about Tuna?!
Prefer a crisp sandwich myself!
Great price though! Heat!
tibby to nicblaney
12 Nov 15#53
I really fancy a crisp and tuna sandwich now.
99rb
12 Nov 15#51
well it's a good starting point. what's your expertise in the area and how do you gather your primary research? how do you verify what the brands and retailers tell you? and do you get out much on your research ship to go and check?
edinburgher
12 Nov 15#50
Tuna seems to have gone up a lot in price over the last year or so. I try to buy the sustainable ones but I bought the one in spring water for my cat who wolfs it down..he can't read labels!
anigan
12 Nov 15#49
Wow! Can't believe how hot this deal has gone
asiot
12 Nov 151#48
it is, most of these bargain type places like home bargains, bnm bargains etc it's often 4 for £2 or if not individual tins are 50p.. Havent voted on this deal as i consider 50p per tin the standard price like 25p per can for tinned pop anything over i wouldnt buy... Oh and yes its chunks and not flakes
eset12345
12 Nov 151#47
'tuna chunks' hmmmm more like factory floor sweepings :man:
bazclack
12 Nov 15#45
Wouldn't buy anything from Morrisons and definitely not this rubbish.
dealerxxx
12 Nov 15#44
Princes tuna are nasty! I guess some may like it! John west has much better taste. Not voted
petermcgregor14
12 Nov 15#43
It's all about the Brine, bout the Brine, no Oil.
soldierboy001
12 Nov 15#42
Not an Aldi fan then?
oUkTuRkEyIII
11 Nov 152#3
Heat, that's like 50p a tin :smiley:
Dyslexic_Dog to oUkTuRkEyIII
11 Nov 153#21
Carol Vordermans got nothing on you has she! :-)
soldierboy001 to oUkTuRkEyIII
12 Nov 15#41
I get 4 X 120grm tins in Spain for 50p and you think this is a bargain?
RedXIII
12 Nov 155#40
If you'd like your children and grandchildren to eat tuna in less than 50 years time please don't buy this stuff, it's cheap for a reason. Keep an eye out instead for tins with either, "Sustainable", or "Pole and Line Caught" on the sides. Waitrose's own tuna for example tastes fantastic and is sustainable enough for tuna to still be around for many centuries to come.
vod
12 Nov 15#39
Recommend trying Asda and Tesco own brand, bigger tins and tastes better - usually cheaper too.
But if you have to stick to your brands decent price
rubberbullets
12 Nov 15#38
Which one?
NONE in the Stamford Hill branch in London!
Mind you they almost never have any of the really cheap deals!
rubberbullets
12 Nov 15#36
All varieties OUT OF STOCK
norfolkbroadslim to rubberbullets
12 Nov 15#37
Still available in store.
benny92
12 Nov 15#35
No, luckily not this one. They tend to have a lot of beans and pasta as that's what most people bring.
benny92
12 Nov 15#32
Cheers. Just asked local food bank and they're really short of tinned fish :smiley:
holeymoley18 to benny92
12 Nov 15#34
Guessing they're always really short of everything with the queues of people needing to get in there.
lehappymerchant
12 Nov 15#33
Good deal if it wasn't tuna
BenderRodriguez
12 Nov 15#31
Exactly. Just accept the fact that some people are smelly gluttons scavenging Home Bargains for cheapest piece of crap they can find while exposing poorly tattooed butterfly on their stretch mark covered lower backs. Move on with your life, you won't change their minds or expectations and end up frustrated about something that isn't worth it.
Please consider a brand which has been sustainably sourced, like Sainsburys own brand or Waitrose own brand.
wattsey
12 Nov 156#29
It's much better value to everyone to buy sustainable fish rather then trawler eco system destroying byproduct. Cold.
adamcb
12 Nov 15#28
There is no league table from what I can see following the link all it is is an article about john west using unsustainable fishing methods.
Aldi is the worst tuna I have tried and god know why you have totally fabricated your statement?. Morrisons, Tesco, Sainsburys and Waitrose all sell better products than the overpriced mouldy products that Aldi put on their shelves, if you work you backside off for them that's fine but leave your drivel off of this site please, Aldi only have 5% market share the reason for this is that they mostly sell a load of low quality products. If you are happy eating it then fine but keep the nonesense to yourself.
adamcb
12 Nov 15#27
It's never £2 for 4 tins in home bargains, cheapest I've seen it is at £2.99. There seems to be people with biased views on here trying to hamper a really good deal
icecube93
12 Nov 15#26
Good deal, bought quite a lot of John West tuna, gonna buy some if this try it and if it's good fill the house.. XD
vodka_hound
11 Nov 15#16
How do they get a whole tuna into such a small tin?
qbs to vodka_hound
12 Nov 152#25
They use a big magnifying glass to make the tin bigger. Once they've got the tuna in, they take away the magnifying glass.
Ed Winchester
12 Nov 151#24
Here come the tuna nerds.
Joemobro
12 Nov 15#23
Chunks now = shreds
gazdoubleu
11 Nov 151#1
Wouldn't feed that stuff to next doors cat!
norfolkbroadslim to gazdoubleu
11 Nov 1525#2
Fussy, is it?
qbs to gazdoubleu
12 Nov 15#22
Mix in some antifreeze. It's just to die for.
gazdoubleu
11 Nov 151#20
You obviously eat a lot of it as the mercury has gone to your brain!
lawnraker
11 Nov 15#19
Great thank you
ELVIS_THE_PELVIS
11 Nov 151#18
Chanchi32
11 Nov 15#17
picked up the tuna in sunflower oil earlier on instore
joanne10
11 Nov 15#15
For tuna chunks this is great! Thanks OP :smile:
liamwill83
11 Nov 15#13
Haha
haiderinho
11 Nov 15#12
Was 2 packs for £5 yesterday. heat
gazdoubleu
11 Nov 15#11
Its always cheap at home bargain
I don't think my comment is irrelevant, you can see when you open the tin its from poor quality cuts which in my opinion is why it tastes so bad. Always about this price in Home Bargains & B&M's because it really is poor quality
poshaffi
11 Nov 151#10
3 for £1 in farmfoods last week i got some
rnr81
11 Nov 15#9
taste is individual, thus rendering your comment irrelevant, I'm happy buying this at £2 for a 4 pack, hot from me
ando
11 Nov 15#7
Twice the price?
Most places locally to me anyway sell John west 4 tins for £2.50-£3
Agree though Princes is crap IMO, not voted though as it's still a cheap deal
gazdoubleu
11 Nov 151#6
No just doesn't like tuna that tastes disgusting. John West better value at twice the price
Opening post
Online & in store. I Picked up 2 packs of the spring water ones in store tonight.
**Spring water and sunflower oil varieties are currently out of stock online.
*Ends 17/11/2015. Maximum of 4 promotional items per customer.
**UPDATE - 12/11/2015 - All varieties currently out of stock online. Still available in store.
Top comments
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11913625/John-West-breaks-promise-to-use-sustainable-fishing-methods.html
https://secure.greenpeace.org.uk/page/s/not-just-tuna
http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/tuna
Please consider a brand which has been sustainably sourced, like Sainsburys own brand or Waitrose own brand.
Latest comments (69)
And never buy the ones with sunflower oil - the oil is badly processed - better get your EFA's elsewhere.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11913625/John-West-breaks-promise-to-use-sustainable-fishing-methods.html
https://secure.greenpeace.org.uk/page/s/not-just-tuna
In fact do people still trust and take Greenpeace seriously? :stuck_out_tongue:
It seems to me if anyone disagrees or questions Greenpeaces' views, they must be wrong or ignorant or simply working for the industry. Essentially calling someone a shill is enough to dismiss whatever point they make regardless of whether or not it has any validity.
The French government undeniably commited a horrific act of violence against a legal non-violent protest that had no justification. There was no apology and no justice whatsoever.
It's thirty years since the French government bombed a Greenpeace ship in New Zealand, I guess there will always be dirty tricks by big business and government trying to stop publicly funded organisations from protesting and educating the world on the precarious situation of our ecology and environment. Nowadays, we probably see fewer government planted bombs and murder and more funding for websites like the one hosting your GIF.
Your scepticism seems to toe the line trotted out by big business and vested interests. You're hardly a free thinking sceptic, more a digester of propaganda and mouthpiece and apologist for the profit makers and establishment.
Smiley face? Not!
I see here that they're using their multi-million pound yachts gained from the large numbers of donations a year to take direct naval action. :stuck_out_tongue:
I would hope that after all that money and time spent on the sea, they'd have come up with a better solution than asking people to buy more expensive pole and line tuna and for retailers to only stock said products. At the same time they seem to be somewhat against aquaculture. Plus you'd think they'd at least try and work with the industry to an extent in order to find the best solutions like the WWF does.
Greenpeace is also against potentially life saving developments for poor countries like golden rice despite the scientific consensus supporting GMO crops. In my opinion they appear to be against evidence-based policy as shown by them playing a part in helping to scrap the post of the EU's Chief Scientific Adviser.
I, and I suspect most of the public, didn't think it was acceptable that damaged disturbed a sacred and world heritage site just to send a message.
I guess their views and cause can justify anything they do though.
I appreciate I'm just someone on a forum compared to a global NGO but I encourage skepticism of everything. :smiley:
They are sailing the sea taking direct naval action, not surfing on their sofa contemplating their navel.
"drivel", "nonsense"? You state "Aldi only have 5% market share" because they sell lots of low quality products yet they win supermarket of the year. I assume Waitrose must sell even lower quality stuff if it has a smaller market share then. :stuck_out_tongue:
Prefer a crisp sandwich myself!
Great price though! Heat!
But if you have to stick to your brands decent price
NONE in the Stamford Hill branch in London!
Mind you they almost never have any of the really cheap deals!
http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/tuna
Please consider a brand which has been sustainably sourced, like Sainsburys own brand or Waitrose own brand.
Aldi is the worst tuna I have tried and god know why you have totally fabricated your statement?. Morrisons, Tesco, Sainsburys and Waitrose all sell better products than the overpriced mouldy products that Aldi put on their shelves, if you work you backside off for them that's fine but leave your drivel off of this site please, Aldi only have 5% market share the reason for this is that they mostly sell a load of low quality products. If you are happy eating it then fine but keep the nonesense to yourself.
I don't think my comment is irrelevant, you can see when you open the tin its from poor quality cuts which in my opinion is why it tastes so bad. Always about this price in Home Bargains & B&M's because it really is poor quality
Most places locally to me anyway sell John west 4 tins for £2.50-£3
Agree though Princes is crap IMO, not voted though as it's still a cheap deal