Saw these in the states a few days ago. Over priced, under specced and the revolutionary idea of a pen is now a 'pencil' and clearly nothing new from Apple.

The bezels are too thick also. Really, after so many years of intelligence you would expect Apple to come out with something amazing. Instead they drip feed their sheep bit by bit.

Waste of money.

Buy at your own risk, there are reports of these freezing when plugged into chargers.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/11/19/apple_frozen_ipad_confirmation/

Cold for over priced broken kit

I really don't want to start any Apple/MS debates, but having being given a Surface Pro 4 for work (i5 256GB) I am totally blown away by the SP4 (in a good way).

Firstly... The screen is AMAZING. The pen is almost perfect and everyone who sees my SP at work wants it.

I like Apple, I have an iPad (typing this on my iPad now).. But seriously.. SP is great.

The not so good... Having issues with the dock and monitor support, but think it might be either a bad dock or software update required. So only able to connect to one external monitor at the moment. Not worried as that will be fixed eventually.

Back to the SP.. In meetings... I open my folio case and start writing.. Literally blows away everything else I have every used. All my engineering software is Windows eco system, so iPad pro didn't stand a chance.

Also, for the pretenders here trying to act "rich", it's quite shameful and embarassing you'd even have to call others working class. This is what I detest about apple fanboys, they can be so classless. I mean for a supposedly rich person why act so bankrupt of manners?

Buy at your own risk, there are reports of these freezing when plugged into chargers.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/11/19/apple_frozen_ipad_confirmation/

Cold for over priced broken kit

The deal is good but your opinion of Apple kit is clouding that. There are always bugs with new tech and Apple warranty is good so doesn't bother me but thanks for posting.

Hot from me OP. Freezing issues will be sorted in no time if it effects an individuals device...

Its standard for Apple kit to be overpriced as everyone knows. They even lock you into having to pay more by going non standard, ie no usb then lightning now the watch charger non QI standard so you have to pay a lot more and not be able to use the same as everyone else http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/11/19/apples_watch_charging_pad_qi/

The price of these in this deal are lower yes but too much for broken kit that is overpriced anyway.

iOS 9.1 beta 3 fixes the freeze problem

Good deal, but I'd rather wait for the freezing issues to be resolved, or at least, explained. Could be an easy to fix software bug, but could also be a hardware problem.

See comment re iOS update fixes freezing...

anyone have any idea if there will be a 25x points or voucher available soon for tech or games?

ordered 128gb a few days ago via an amazon seller for £709...

cracking deal still. heat

Good deal!

Wait until Apple fix the problems. Steve Jobs must be turning in his grave!
Black Screen of Death

£100 for a pen.

:confused:

128gb for £695 after cash back and £36 worth of points to use, effectively making this plus a Pencil (when available), £738!

Saw these in the states a few days ago. Over priced, under specced and the revolutionary idea of a pen is now a 'pencil' and clearly nothing new from Apple.

The bezels are too thick also. Really, after so many years of intelligence you would expect Apple to come out with something amazing. Instead they drip feed their sheep bit by bit.

Waste of money.

It says.. 'Imported units supplied with UK 3-pin plug adapter as required' does this mean it's not a UK model? Cheers

It's a nice deal but I can't see the appeal for this product.. It can't replace macbook or laptop using ios... Not having proper file management system is just a no go to use this as business related product like you would with laptops.

For other tasks Ipad air does the job equally good, sure media is improved but what's the fun watching films on such tint screen anyway.

its a good price but my god that thing is a monster.

Bought it from the house of Fraser deal a few weeks ago. 3 year warranty and fir an extra £49 you get 3 year accidental damage cover also.

Cracking deal. My Apple Store one is on the way back for a free return and £64 cash back. Possible £35 TC as well. Heat from me.

Good price . must buy it or tim will be angry

Its a good price - of course android devices never have problems when they come out - oh wait multiple OS's on multiple platforms ! (yes I have both so can compare - and neither are without flaws) :smiley:

and there it is. The original 'apple are overpriced blah blah blah' comment.

Apple will replace or update for free/soon.

Don't worry nobody will rip you off.
Nobody is forcing you to pay mate...same with cars, does anyone force you to buy a Ferrari? You can stick with your own little ford.

He was expressing an opinion which he can , only an idiot will believe one is forced (at gun point,e.g.) against one's will to buy any thing as a result of Hotukdeal.

Would love to get one of those. Would liked to try it out in store first before deciding what to do. Part of me would rather have the iPad Pro but Surface Pro suits my needs better for doing work on and for the fact it runs a full OS. Wish I could just buy both. :disappointed:

It's "you're" and most people were.

I really don't want to start any Apple/MS debates, but having being given a Surface Pro 4 for work (i5 256GB) I am totally blown away by the SP4 (in a good way).

Firstly... The screen is AMAZING. The pen is almost perfect and everyone who sees my SP at work wants it.

I like Apple, I have an iPad (typing this on my iPad now).. But seriously.. SP is great.

The not so good... Having issues with the dock and monitor support, but think it might be either a bad dock or software update required. So only able to connect to one external monitor at the moment. Not worried as that will be fixed eventually.

Back to the SP.. In meetings... I open my folio case and start writing.. Literally blows away everything else I have every used. All my engineering software is Windows eco system, so iPad pro didn't stand a chance.

savings are great, but over £600 for a tablet.. No Thanks

Amazing price...NOT

Good question... It's early days and I am still getting used to the SP. My iPad is smaller (I have the standard iPad, not the mini). So size wise, iPad it's easier to carry about. It's cheaper and I won't have a heart attack if it breaks.

If the SP wasn't a work computer, I would switch to it fully. (Everything is logged and our company policy restricts eBay, Facebook etc.) So the iPad is going to stay for now.

So my circumstances aside, yes, SP can fully displace iPad in my opinion. I have used the SP on the sofa, kitchen table etc.. the larger screen size is nice but that isn't a fair comparison to the smaller standard iPad. I also like the rear memory card slot on the SP. I am so stick and tired of locked in memory on phones etc. Mine is full of my music, one sneaky concession to our company policy.

One thing... The SP naked (not in a case) is very light, but it needs a folio or similar case to keep the pen secure (I can't understate how AWSOME the pen is). The SP needs the pen. So the case adds a little weight, but you forget it after a while, it also protects the SP. anyone using expensive chuck about electronics needs to case it, otherwise it will break.

Shame these don't run OSX or I'd have replaced the laptop.

Surface Pro 4 leaves the IPad pro somewhere in the dark ages when comparing spec and performance. Having tried both there is NO comparison. Be smart folks and buy the Surface Pro 4 then run your Apple Software on it instead. You do NOT need to buy overpriced underspecified Apple hardware to run their software on it.

Every other tablet has warranty and most don't cost that much.

Not according to this:
http://www.macworld.com/article/3007372/ipad/ipad-pro-problems-apple-acknowledges-mysterious-shutdowns-but-no-fix-yet.html

I did have a link yesterday to macforum, but cant find it now.

This link is to apples forum

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7336081?start=225&tstart=0

Many people at the end of the page say the update fixes the ipad Pro. But the update is only a Beta version at the minute

​i like my old little ford.

Decent deal. If you're in Hong Kong or going I'd hold off as they start from £599 direct from their store.

I'd still rather buy a surface pro though simply because you don't get a mobile OS

I'm glad I don't come to your house for Christmas

Okay cheers

Had a play with one, the stylus/pencil thingy is the best I have used so far, and that's when comparing it to the Samsung Note's and Surface Pro's. But apart from that, it is just a massive iPad. I guess if you're looking for a big iPad, this is perfect. Heat added for the price. If there was no market for this or if it is overpriced, I guess we will find out soon with the sales figures, but I could bet my mortgage that these will sell, and sell very well!

I have an iPad and use it regularly but for the extra cost and size I honestly think I would rather have the new Surface Pro 4 - just much more practical and better hardware

Awseome deal for this, heated!

Does anyone know of a code I could use to buy an iPad Air from Pixel Electronics/Rakuten? I have some points but really waiting for a 10% or 15% off code? Couldn't find any valid ones online. Thanks in advance.

Can't argue as I do feel like Apple take the pish with their pricing just because they can (iPad pro cases being a prime example) but no matter how many times I use an android device I just don't like the software and it's just the little things. My nexus 7 2013 gets love as my showbox device but I always go back to iPhone and iPad. Apple get somethings right, hardwear is most defiantly one (and customer service) so hence the loyal following.

Still can't believe people are having the X is better than Y debate here! Are you looking to buy an iPad Pro? Yes. Then this is a good deal. If you can find a better deal please share it. If you love other products please go and buy it.

Having owned an iPad Pro, that I returned today I can say that, for me anyway, it's just a big iPad and hideously overpriced at that. I've gone back to my Surface Pro 3 now.

The iPad Pro isn't a bad device it's just hard to find a place for it; the pencil is out of stock, very few apps are properly optimised for the Pro, the keyboard is expensive and US format. I found my Air 2 much better all round.

As to Pixel Electronics, I'm fairly sure they're on a tax/import duty dodge and won't supply proper invoices. If you're a consumer that's kind of ok - but as a business user it probably won't be.

cold over priced better buy surface pro 4

​Im sorry buy why oh why would I ever want to run IOS with all its limitations when I could run OSX instead. I can not recall saying that. Please refrain from your bleeps.

Has TCB tracked for anyone here?

​Well you're posting on a thread about ipads and said not to buy one, get a surface. If you want to run iOS apps (of which there's some really good educational stuff in particular) that's completely useless advice. I'd agree at this price one should expect more of a proper computer, but people make their own decisions. Seems you're just trolling, which helps no one.

I've had to raise a claim with quidco.

Has anyone had their order status change yet? Just received a 10% electronics code through eBay so tempted to cancel but there's no easy way to do it!

I am an electronics design engineer, so I run a couple electronic CAD packages and some embedded software environments. I don't do graphics or photo editing as such, but I do have a graphics program on it (Photoplus) along with Pageplus for panel artwork etc. I also have the full office suite and use it all apart from databases.

You really need some extras with this SP to get the most out it. For me, I need and use the following:
Two docks. One at work and one in my home office. These are not cheap.
Folio case, get one that holds the pen.
Type cover.
Large screen(s) at home and work. It should support two external monitors, with the SP screen giving you three, but I can only run one external monitor.
Large capacity microsd card.

So there.. You can easily double the cost of the SP with all the "extras". That's my setup.. Other people have different needs. Best of luck.

Thanks for the reply. That's quite a setup you have. I guess I would need more time to think about it and try it out for a while if possible. Was really looking something small and handy that would be great for doing the things I listed above on the go or to get some stuff done handy.

My order is now showing as delayed. Have emailed to ask for estimated delivery as its been 5 days now.

Can confirm its a UK one. Took a while to come but especially after the lack of iPad deals this weekend, by far the cheapest iPad Pro deal in the country.

Got iPhone, iPad and MacBook, love them all but even I have admit they've lost the plot with this.....

Have been using a surface pro 3 for a year now and that's coming the only device I need and makes this look stupid

If I bought this and it had a problem I'd contact Apple, and Apple would send another. If the next one and the one after that had the same problem I'd get a refund and Apple would do something to address the problem.

Overpriced is an opinion. Whereas it is a fact that this is a good deal, the definition of a good deal being a relatively low price. People looking to buy one will benefit from this deal. Nobody will benefit from your useless post, other than the sheep who bash Apple products.

- oh by the way, I'm a Surface > iPad guy.

Am I mistaken or is this over 600 notes for a tablet?

Please tell me I'm mistaken.

Yeah it does. OSX works fine with a mouse or the touchpad.

iOS simulator can, and you could have an SP 4 running as an iPad Pro if you wanted.

No disrespect to anyone and Im not an apple hater, but over 600 quid for a tablet?

good luck to those who buy it.

Why do the working class always hate on Apple products because they can't afford them?

I don't go around hijacking android posts stating that Google track everything you do so that they can use it against you.

Not sure if I am going to buy it but just tried to add the promotional 10% code at checkout and it takes £40 off a £720 order. It should be £72 shouldn't it? Or am I missing something?

Gives 10,800 points which is worth £108 overall this seems like a great deal. If you only consider the original price and not what people think an iPad Pro is worth. Heat added

Hello, it's 2015. Cloud storage exists.

Also I rarely see you comparing design or other non functional aspects.

Everyone copies Apple, deal with it.

I know this a very big tablet, but >£600 for a tablet is madness. You can get a very decent laptop or budget Macbook for similar money. Prices will drop massively after Christmas.

plus they got the size horribly wrong.

1) So you mean once you've paid your £600+ you should then continue to pay a subscription to counteract the lack of initial storage?
2) Design and functional wise it's hardly different to an iPad mini
3) Puhhlease, you've chosen the worst product in Apple history to make that point. The Surface Pro has been out for 3 years

I didn't goto one of the top universities so I could be talked down to by your type.

I'm a professional for gods sake, I know what I'm talking about.

iPad Pro needed to have a full OS. So OSX installed, instead it's just IOS9. The MS Surface Pro 4 is excellent so they've done MS a favour there.

Currently £587.75 at thebrilliantgiftshop using code uxrl6

They sell it for £779 but the code takes off £194.75, must have an account but can pay using debit card
That's for the 32gb model

£667.75 for the 128gb version, they sell for £899 but the code takes off £224.75

Pretentious so and so...

Rakuten n00b here - can't see anywhere to enter 'XMAS10' for the discount today. Any help appreciated.

Currently £587.75 at thebrilliantgiftshop using code uxrl6

They sell it for £779 but the code takes off £194.75, must have an account but can pay using debit card
That's for the 32gb model

£667.75 for the 128gb version, they sell for £899 but the code takes off £224.75

Currently £587.75 at thebrilliantgiftshop using code uxrl6

They sell it for £779 but the code takes off £194.75, must have an account but can pay using debit card
That's for the 32gb model

£667.75 for the 128gb version, they sell for £899 but the code takes off £224.75

Currently £587.75 at thebrilliantgiftshop using code uxrl6

They sell it for £779 but the code takes off £194.75, must have an account but can pay using debit card
That's for the 32gb model

£667.75 for the 128gb version, they sell for £899 but the code takes off £224.75

Currently £587.75 at thebrilliantgiftshop using code uxrl6

They sell it for £779 but the code takes off £194.75, must have an account but can pay using debit card
That's for the 32gb model

£667.75 for the 128gb version, they sell for £899 but the code takes off £224.75

No I hope you went there to gain an education not wave around your attendance like a status symbol. At the end of the day, you can get a 128 gb Macbook Air for a price close to that of a 128gb iPad pro, and it comes with a FREE keyboard!

Well, I'm not into iOS stuff as a rule (love Macs, so not anti-Apple, just think iPhone/iPad are poor...), but anyway.

Always out for a relative bargain, I have just ordered a 32GB one of these - with code it was down to £575, but it also tells me I will get 9,225 points, with 100 points being worth £1. That been the case, have I just kinda paid £480ish for the iPad Pro?

I'm new to Rakuten, so not 100% clear on the points thing.

Thanks in advance for any clarification.

I managed to bag one for £495 through an eBay shop using a 10% coupon code I got from PayPal. Should receive it tomorrow or Wednesday!

Not retina
Not a tablet
No pencil support
No touch screen


Plenty of people will buy this product so there is very little chance of Apple slashing prices. Across the internet people are flaming the ipad pro as pointless, it is not - its just not for you (and I have had one and returned it). Right now its version 1 so can only get better. Pencil support for Artists and designers is amazing and only just bested by Surface Pro 4 stylus. As a media consumption device it is the best ipad Apple have made (big screen, huge battey, awesome speakers) but for me it was just a bit too heavy and quite alot too expenisive - today. Version 3 will probably have everything I want.

Fantastic price/deal. However I have one, and I would rather have gone for the surface pro. For all my BS about criticising sheeple, I for an ipad air 2 in 2014 and then regretted it as I want a full OS device like the surface and then I went and got this. I love it though but I agree, a surface pro is better, even if its more expensive.

Also, for the pretenders here trying to act "rich", it's quite shameful and embarassing you'd even have to call others working class. This is what I detest about apple fanboys, they can be so classless. I mean for a supposedly rich person why act so bankrupt of manners?

Get back to work. Oik.

It's just a bigger, faster, slightly tweaked version of the iPad Mini 2, which can be had new for £169. I would also rather be seen carrying a mini around than this behemoth. Too big in both size and price.

Are there no gyms in your area? :smiley:

Yes, of the entire iPad range, the mini 2 is DEFINITELY it's closest relative.

Surely for this much money it should be able to replace a laptop like the surface? Does this iPad have full OS? 600

Does it apply to iPad Air 2?

It's a bargain.... Oh no wait it's not. 126 quid for a x98 3g 64gb and expandable with dual boot android / w10 from gearbest is a bargain. Phew that was close. :smiley:

Thanks for this, fancied one and just picked up the white 128gb Wifi. £680 with the code, less 6.5% Top Cash Back (the code is on TCB so fine to use) so would expect a good whack off the top of that as well through cashback. Massive saving over RRP.

It's okay, he's trolling. No-one could be that much of a t**l without being ironic.

Anyone who struggles to hold 1.5 lbs needs s doctor,not a iPad

Okay, lets compare the current range using Apple's suggested pricing (they can all be found cheaper elsewhere).
*Mini 2 £219 - cheapest 8" model - base price
*Mini 4 £319 - faster processor, minor upgrades (base +£100)
*Air £319 - 2" bigger, minor upgrades (base +£100)
*Air 2 £399 - 2" bigger, faster processor, minor upgrades (base +£180)
*Pro £679 - 5" bigger, much faster processor, 2x RAM, minor upgrades (base +£460)

Bearing in mind that functionality is virtually identical, which one looks stupidly over-priced?

Buying 3x Mini's will give you ~greater combined processing power, 50% more RAM, 19" screen estate, and plenty of redundancy.

IMO a 12.9" tablet loses it's key selling points - potability and practicality.

Been using iPad pro for a few weeks now I never had the 100% charge problem freezing etc great device use it all the time.

How is it less portable than an ipad air ? An ipad air won't fit in your pocket and so needs to be carried with one hand, you can carry the pro in one hand.the pro will also fit into a regular sized bag/backpack,no suitcase required.

You forgot to slur "I was very very drunk"

Had a play with a display model in Currys on the weekend.

It's literally a big iPad. A massive iPad. This thing is bigger than my head (I'm not joking) and makes the 12.3-inch Surface Pro 4 look diminutive.

The apps just look enormous and, frankly, ridiculous. You're going to hit the same brick walls productivity-wise with this as you would with an iPad Air in a keyboard case as iOS and the lack of a file system is simply too restrictive.

I mean...who is this for? Writers and bloggers? Nope, the keyboard case is sub-par (and the Logitech one is really heavy - you might as well buy a laptop). Artists? Not really as the full-fat software doesn't run and the Surface 3 is much cheaper just for sketching. Musicians, video editors? Not without Avid Pro Tools, Logic Pro, Final Cut Pro, Premiere etc.

The screen is stunning - really, really superb. But even just for consumption this thing is awkward. Without a kickstand, you always need some way of propping this up to watch stuff for any length of time.

Microsoft are the darlings right now but I'm old enough to remember when everyone - and I mean everyone - hated them as a company and despised Windows even more. It's now trendy to bash Apple but they make well-built, well-designed machines with a solid, reliable OS - for the most part.

This, though, is a lazy design and Tim Cook is really pushing his luck. It's ridiculously overpriced and all that power is for nothing without the software to back it up. I can see there being an awful lot of buyer remorse down the line.

Surface pro 4 is a tablet...... I can do way more with one of those than this

But one has to admit, this really does make such a jolly spiffing tea-tray.

An Air fits into my wife's handbag and within my glovebox. The mini will fit into a man's jacket pocket if needed, and I find it's size very convenient for commuting. The Pro will need either a large handbag, or a laptop bag to keep it tucked away when not in-use. For me, I would rather just carry a macbook than an equally bulky iPad Pro.

Saying all that, I also prefer phones to be 5.1" or less, but there are plenty of people happy with bigger. Perhaps big tablets will catch-on, but not my cup of tea.

Thanks, but no thanks - you could get a decent laptop for that price.

Your wife must have the smallest handbag known to man not to accommodate an iPad pro,everyone knows a woman's hand bag is like a tardis and can hold at least a 65 inch LCD TV

I disagree with the view on MS being darlings. Windows 10 is still a beta product and poorly designed. However at least they got their PRO tablet right which Apple certainly haven't in this product.

I don't believe this is a laptop replacement no matter what Apple or anyone else says,I also don't believe it is a pro device,but if you are after just a massive tablet with top quality build,stunning screen with plenty of power for the future then this is the device to go for.

It's the ideal tablet for those who want to do normal iPad things like watch videos and web browsing and so on,but not for what Apple would have people believe.

I'm more than happy with mine as I only use it for the above uses plus video editing and a laptop does not appeal to me anymore hence why this suits my personal needs.

Who said that an iPad was the only thing that women need to fit within their handbags? A 13" tablet is far more cumbersome and likely to bend/damage than 10" or 8" versions. In pure cm² terms the Pro covers 674cm², the Air2 407cm² and the Mini 4 274cm². That makes the Pro 65% larger than the (already large) Air and 146% bigger than the Mini. By comparison an A4 piece of paper is 624cm². Whilst the technology is great the size is silly.

I like most Apple products, but this one I will never buy. The screen size has outgrown the OS and they have lost the plot. I would rather lug a macbook around.

Oh, I agree with you. But I see an awful lot of Apple haters these days lining up to say how wonderful Windows (and PCs in general) are in comparison to anything Apple produces. I can recall when Windows was something you merely tolerated because you had no other real choice. It was marginally above syphilis on the list of things you loved having in your life.

In many ways, the ascendancy of Apple has forced every other manufacturer in producing better products for us all. We should be grateful to them. Smartphones before 2007 were diabolical, buggy junk. Tablets were underpowered garbage (I remember the shocking Windows XP things that weighed almost as much as a desktop tower and the Archos trash that couldn't get through a video or album without crashing). Laptops rarely lasted longer than 2 hours on a charge.

So thank you, Apple. You took existing technologies and made them infinitely better than what was out there. As a result, we now have terrific ultrabooks and hybrids like the Surface with all-day battery life; awesome tablets like the Xperia Z4 and even excellent budget slates like the Lenovo A10 Tab 2. And without iOS, Android wouldn't exist as we know it. Google tore up what they were doing and started again when Jobs demoed the first iPhone.

Apple deserve their success and stopped the peddling of so much utter crap by forcing others to compete. Sadly, the modern Apple seems more interested in gouging customers with 5400rpm hard drives in £1200 4K iMacs, producing outrageously-priced watch straps and blowing up the size of their iPads. As other manufacturers pull ahead, maybe they'll wow us all again someday.

Is it just me or has everyone forgotten (I couldn't read every comment, so I might have missed it), the Samsung TabPRO or NotePRO 12.2", these beasties: http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/mobile-devices/tablets/others/SM-T9000ZKABTU or http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/mobile-devices/tablets/others/SM-P9000ZKABTU

Samsung had this out at least a year ago and it's pretty much the Android competitor to the iPad Pro but without the stupid price tag and can be had for well under £300 now. It'll also take a microSD so you can pop a 128GB or 200GB card into it too.

Comparing it to an iPad Air 2 and calling it overpriced perhaps doesn't take into account that an iPad Air 2 128GB is 559 RRP so the difference isn't that huge.

Calling the Surface Pro better is a bit overly simplistic. Microsoft calls it "the tablet that can replace your laptop". Sure, it can do a laptops job but it's hopeless as a tablet due to the limited or poor quality app selection.

The iPad Pro is the same compromise the other way round, it is a great tablet (if the size doesn't bother you) but it can't replace your laptop yet. The question for me is will there be enough improvement in the software before the iPad Pro 2 comes out to justify buying it?

It's too early for a no-compromise single device. I would buy an iPad Air and either a surface pro or a MacBook Pro. That's got to be the best option for the next 2-3 years

But when the Note Pro 12.2 first came out it was £650. That was too much for my mate who wanted it but settled for the 10" Note Pro at £400. Now its so slow and apps crash all the time, not to mention that most of the apps were stretched mobile phone apps.

I got my iPad 3rd gen coming up to 4 years ago. Great product. I need to upgrade. Was waiting for the iPad Air 3 but this is a great deal so very tempted. With 10% and cashback can get 128gb gold or silver for £638. Great deal to be honest. £161 off RRP for a month old product is great.

I know a lot of people hate apple but how I see it is you pay the extra because you prefer the iOS or Mac OS X experience. If you like the Windows or android experience good for you. You'll be much better off financially in the long run than me.

Plus I forgot to mention you get 10,800 Rakuten points which is worth £108 (please correct me if I'm wrong) but that is crazy good. Basically paying £530 so a £269 saving

How well do the surface pros hold the value after 12 months ? I know Apple products are very good when it comes to holding their value when the next model comes along

Surface pro 3 not holding up that well used. One problem I've found is the £110 keyboard shows signs of wear very quickly, and it therefore worth very little second hand

The option of running osx rather than IOS seems perfectly valid and a useful point. Not for everyone but an option for the more technologically advanced. Your comment is not warranted.

It is strange that people will pay enough monies for a decent transformer laptop on just a tablet.

But people who want a telephone clearly don’t want a camera.

Couldn't agree with this more.

It's called offering my opinion - I didn't vote it cold so get off your soap box - geeeeez!

Eh?

When Apple launched the first iPod Touch (so, something actually worth watching video on - the original iPods could manage it but the miniscule screen rendered it pretty much pointless) I already had a Cowon A2 which played more formats than the Touch and had a battery life of 10+ hours for video. Where the Touch might just have got through a single film, if you were lucky.

In fact, about a decade later, I still have my A2 and it still works perfectly! (And the audio quality from it still awesome)

I have an iPad. But I'm not a fan of Apple's walled eco-system and continual use of proprietary tech like the Qi wireless changing on their watch (their latest example). Which will ONLY work with the charger they produce (which costs about 3x as much as a generic one .... of course).

If nothing else, they have (or had, I think they have slipped in recent years) a fantastic marketing department ....

I love these pointless arguments in every god damned Apple post. No one gives a hoot what obscure tech you've all used or purchased instead, what you prefer, if you dont like Apple, if you bum lick apple etc, yet people constantly insist on declaring their opinion when it has no relevance in the deal. 9 pages of comments and about a page worth are about the deal, the rest is knob heads e-posturing. Marvellous

You can add your post to that pile as it also has no relevance to the deal.

Welcome to knob head land. :smiley:

How long did it take the seller to ship after order, and how long for delivery? Expected it to be a few days so just trying to manage my expectations.

FWIW I am a photographer but have bought this mostly for personal use. I will make use of the pencil for notes, but enjoy my iPad but always wished it was available larger. Movies in bed or being able to do work around the office without carting a full laptop or using a desktop, and enough screen real estate and resolution to use Citrix / Remote Desktop properly.

Will probably wait for a better 3rd party keyboard though.

Can't find that Apple make the cases for the pro ? only the front flip case with no back protection ? Can anyone advise if it's made or recommend a good case to use please ?

But the software isn't there *yet* and unless you must be an early-adopter then I would wait. I just can't see it offering substantially more than a regular iPad. Do you have the pencil? By everyone loves it, do you 'love it, 700-ish pound love it', or love the novelty - because everyone I demoed it to (including my first impressions) were excitement and ohhs and ahhs until that wore off. At a more realistic price I think it would be more popular but I genuinely feel as though someone in Apple chose the pricing to see if people would actually bite, a start price of £499 scaling up would be better yet not out of the equation.

Why do you care how much someone enjoys or is willing to pay for a device? Everything you are describing is anecdotal or opinion, others will have the same experience others will have different experiences. If he didn't think it was worth it he wouldn't be posting...

What, so I'm not entitled to my opinion now? I was replying to him - and no, it isn't anecdotal. I asked if he had the pencil which does make it different to a normal iPad but you can't get the things as they are sold out, I wanted to understand his usage case better and see what people are doing with them; and as someone who owned one and returned it I think I'm in a good position to do so.

And I also had problems with Pixel Electronics, I could not exact a VAT number from them so I couldn't be sure they would provide a VAT receipt - that is not opinion, that is fact.

Smart Cover is £49

For anyone that ordered here's the response I got about shipping:

We are expecting to have your item dispatched early next week. I apologise for the slight delay as we have had a large amount of orders backlogged due to Black Friday/Cyber Monday Sales.
Please don't worry, the order will not be cancelled if not shipped by 12/12, it will just show up as delayed.
You will receive a notification email when your item has been dispatched and the item should arrive with you the next working day.

Happy with that tbh for the price I paid! Was just worried it worked like aliexpress and cancelled if it wasn't shipped in a certain period of time

I went for the white as I have the white iPhone, although agree that iPad pro looks better in black but not better enough for me to pay a premium for it. Unreal for the price though, I nearly bought one in Germany last weekend for a small discount; I'd have been gutted. I got it for £680 here, £29 topcashback credited and whatever the points are - think someone said its over £100. Sold my 3rd gen iPad for £160 so it's o oh really cost me £491, then the points on top. Boom!

Dispatched

Hoping mine gets dispatched also today. Went with the 32gb silver version. Not many cases for the Pro as yet so going for something cheap with the JETech Smart Case on Amazon. Only 99p using the £7 promotional voucher from a £30 gift card. I have a Paul Smith 13" MacBook Pro sleeve case which I'm sure will do a good job for travelling in. Apples official Case and cover combo just too steep at £114.

wow,seriously take a chill pill fella....its christmas!

Placed order last Tuesday AM, had confirmation through last Tuesday but nothing else. When I log onto Rakuten it says delayed, so rang them and they said take it up with Pixel electronics, aksed for Pixel's number but Rakuten said there is no number for Pixel and you can only email them... So not very good service.... Does anyone have a number for Pixel as Rakuten said Pixel. will respond within 3days and at this rate the Ipad Pro 2 will be out by the time I found out where my order is ... Cheers in advance for any response...

£600+ for a tablet. Wow.

UK model and plug for those wondering.

Messaged them earlier as funds have been taken today but item not showing as dispatched yet. If I go to oder the same model it says there are 7 left.

Ordered mine last Tuesday I think and got dispatched yesterday. Can't complain about waiting a week when it's so much cheaper than if I went straight to Apple. After dispatch how long does delivery take?

Thanks

Thanks :smiley: Hopefully somebody will be home to receive it

Have to say absolutely cracking piece of kit, everyone at work and my girlfriend are all green with envy. Not upgraded since iPad 3rd gen and had a 16gb, so having this is now amazing difference. Well worth the price paid, which was far far below RRP;

£720 in the store (£79 below RRP)
Less £40 discount code
Less £27 TopCashBack
Less £160 for selling my old iPad 16gb
Total paid: £498

Then you get about £100 of points to spend at Rakuten on top of that? Amazing.

Got mine yesterday. Had to go to the FedEx depot to get it as nobody was at home. Mine was also UK stock. How they are offering it so cheap I have no clue (cheap relative to RRP)

Been delivered today. Hoping it's also UK Stock. This is my first tablet as been waiting for the right one to come along to replace my 2011 MacBook Pro for trips away.

tj200 and Benni, how long from being marked as 'shipped' to attempted delivery?

Had mine Del yesterday, but just checked my rakuten account and there are no points showing for this purchase. Does it take a while for the points to show after delivery ? And how many should I get for the 32gb which worked out 575 ?