you can get a LG G4 for the same price which is 2 years ahead on spec???

Do the schools go back on Monday or have you got another inset day before then?

Love how if an iPhone deal doesn't go hot, it's automatically assumed because android users are voting cold lol. Grow up.

+1 - Droid comment is a cop out for a poor deal - simples

I bought one of these after the HUKD tip off. Must say that migration from 4s was butter smooth and am very pleased with the way it actually works, as opposed to the spec. Needed it to pair with an iWatch I'd received as a present.

Is this deal hot? Yes
Is this phone worth £319? If you're into spending a lot on old specs, sure why not.
iPhones are more of a fashion item. Most people who buy them have no idea about phones or specs.

Yes!!! I love that there were so many people knocking this deal and now it's sitting pretty at over 1000 degrees! Cannot stand Apple, much better hardware out there however this site is about deals and you're not going to find a better deal FOR THIS PHONE atm. Sent from my also overpriced galaxy s6 :-p

Yes any sim will work straight out of the box - only suggested using the GIFFGAFF SIM to ensure that the phone was registered to GIFFGAFF correctly to make sure cashback worked. If your not interested in cashback then thats fine.

and the £5 is a goodybag that give you 100 mins, 200 Txts and 100Mb Data - no further purchase necessary...

Prices gone up 16GB £329, 32GB (was £349) is £399. Should this deal be expired now?

I just put a 3 SIM in, worked and that's that.
Now left with a £5 GiffGaff 'Hokey Cockey' SIM pack, I understand that the £5 credit on it only gets 'released' if I top up with another £10. Is that correct? Or does it need activating with a credit card number, and recurring subscription will be enabled whether I ask for it or not?

You don't need to send a text to activate
You can activate it online

Thanks, appreciated

Now priced at £329 and currently out of stock

Just had my phone stolen, if I buy this phone from giffgaff (looks like you have to buy a 5 quid sim also) can I just use the replacement sim from BT (my provider) instead? Ta.

Just had my phone stolen, if I buy this phone from giffgaff (looks like you have to buy a 5 quid sim also) can I just use the replacement sim from BT (my provider) instead? Ta.

Cracking deal - bought and delivered in 10 hours! Thanks OP.

Incredible price..... To join the ranks of the iSheep at entry level. Watch them smirk at you with your outdated "cheap" device. If only you had worked harder and been more successful then you could have got the iPhone 6s.

"As new" is not new. You won't have any warranty with Apple for starters!

wasnt complainnig about the post, just that its not comparing like with like - brand new from a recognised seller Vs second hand from a relatively unknown site.

Direct-from-Apple Refurbs are "grade a" - anything else usually not so much ...

Nah they've been posted on here. AFAIK... they're allowed to be posted on here? Seen a few myself. Never seem to be people complaining either. Grade A is as new.

having been here a long time you would have realised how the site works :disappointed: that's a second hand phone, unknown condition and with a 60 days warranty compared with a brand new unused full apple warranty. The company is one who buys old phones off people, normally those who have upgraded or know there is something wrong with their phone and have changed it.

And Second hand from a relatively unknown supplier.

Right - all you sad-acts need to stop arguing about iPhones vs Androids.... it doesn't matter.

The fact is, you will not find this phone cheaper anywhere else.... so it's a hot deal.
Nuff said!

No-one cares if there is a more powerful android phone available for cheaper, we all know what Apple do.
If you aren't in the market for an iPhone - don't bother commenting.

But this is still a good deal.... might not be a good "phone solution" to some.... but the deal is solid.


(btw... these will lock to the network of the first SIM card you install)

As I often say when this same old same old argument comes up on Facebook or at work. All smart phones are good phones. Some people just prefer one OS over another.

phone received and SIM. ll good. On quidco it says to get the £20 you need to activate the SIM.
Can I do this simply online thru Giffgaff ? Do I need to insert the SIM?
I have an EE SIM only deal so the Giffgaff one will be going in the bin. But I want the £20!

yeah typically I found this out after I bought it for my daughter :disappointed:

Also if you go via Quidco you can get £20 cashback :smirk:

Now priced at £329

Ordered cheers

Ordered thank you

up to 2013 or around then giffgaff wasn't a real operator in Apple terms, if you used an iPhone before then you had o2 and not giffgaff shown on the network and had to add other information to get the internet to work and couldn't use the voicemail via the voicemail button. In 2013 Giffgaff became a full operator and shortly after that started selling Iphones as part of the deal started selling totally unlocked iphones.

more details
https://community.giffgaff.com/t5/Help-Support/unlocked-iPhone-6plus/td-p/15935251

however, check post 20 here, shows that on occasion they have locked incorrectly but once a message is sent to GG they fix it for you. Just to be sure, I would get a free sim from quidco or somewhere and check :disappointed:

https://community.giffgaff.com/t5/Help-Support/Iphone-6-SIMFREE-from-Giffgaff-LOCKED-or-UNLOCKED/td-p/16155268

do you have to buy a goodybag with this? When I go to checkout I have to select at least one. Can I not just buy the phone?

Silver and Gold 32GB models now OOS, as I suspected would happen quite soon.
Anyone in the market should grab the grey 32GB one soon.

you can get a LG G4 for the same price which is 2 years ahead on spec???

you need to download it with the amazon download manager to a laptop, if you don't do that then you have to use the amazon app I believe.

Can you tell me how on your iPhone you would download an MP3 e.g. from Amazon then move it into your music folder in your iPhone so it can be played on the stock Apple Music app?

I assume you either have a different interpretation of 'nouse' to me or you are again being insulting where there is no need? For the record my intellect and common sense tells me it is pointless paying a fortune for a phone that does things I don't need or want from it. I upgrade to a model 2 below the current one cheaply each year simply because after a year or so my phone is pretty worn out being as it was second hand in the first place, and without starting to invest a lot in repairs I may as well replace with a 2 year old phone again.

To be honest my 3GS did all I wanted from it but it basically wore out. Now after a year my 4 has a cracked back and the home button is sticky (electrical contact cleaner drizzled into the top of the button helps for a while though)

As I've said previously, I have an Android (Samsung) work phone and dislike it. Quite possibly it's down to my lack of patience to resolve issues but, for example, I forward emails with attachments to my own email on my iPhone as I find it far easier to view them on there.

I'm not sure why I bother to keep trying to explain to you why I have, and like, an iPhone. It costs me very little as I previously explained (sell my 4 for £40-50 notes next year and but a second hand 5 for under £100 - my wife's was £80 this year.

I wouldn't say other phones are better/worse/****/used by morons etc as some Android users insist. It's all about free choice. Those same people who say new iPhone users are wasting their money are doubtless 'wasting' money elsewhere in their choice of utility company, car, insurance company, food choices, etc etc. Ultimately we live in a country where if nobody wants to pay this for this deal they don't have to. The fact it is nearly sold out indicates it must have been deemed a good deal by enough people. Just because you don't think it is doesn't make you right.

I'm confused. I normally download all my music on my laptop or desktop then connect it to my phone then drag and drop it to my music folder. If i was on the go i can easily download straight to my phone without my desktop or laptop then move the mp3/FLAC to my preferred folder. The reason i download mainly everything from home and not on the go is because it's more comfortable sitting down in front of a desk or laptop on my lap.

Exactly, you need a laptop so you can't do it on-the-go, eg when travelling without laptop.

Just a thought it may be worth trying john lewis for a price match i have no idea if its possible but seeing as the 32gb 5s is selling for £419.00 with JL and if it was possible you would get the 2 year warranty without any additional issue down the line if something goes wrong after the year.

I use my iphone for day to day as a phone, as I just find the music management and podcast management easier. But I use my Galaxy Tab for games, and watching movies (especially as it can connect to hotel TVs via HDMI) and has a bigger screen for the train.

Its horses for courses - I just dont get the arrogance of some of the Android community in trying to dictate to people what they would be "better to buy" - vive la difference !

I hate to interrupt mid rant but I could have sworn this was a deal thread for an iPhone 5s.

As an aside, just drag and drop your free/Amazon MP3s into the 'Automatically add to iTunes folder' and everything will be taken care of, well, automatically. You can probably set up the Amazon downloader to automatically pop the files in that location too.

​that is one of the reasons I dislike in apple products, restrictions! You can basically have, what you can buy on iTunes. No thanks I want to change at least my theme every now and then, when I get bored. I'm still waiting to see when apple is going to offer qhd screen in they products I guess when it's dirt cheap so they still make loads of money on the cheap hardware they sell. Now ppl will say - " but it's the feel that gives you when you hold it" . Well the only feeling I get is, wanting to bash it, on the floor. I'd like to see how an iPhone compares to other top end phone like nexus 6p buy simulating 1440p not 1080p

I don't find iTunes simple. If I want to download some songs from Amazon (because only this way do I get straightforward MP3 files and a free CD) on the go, and add them to my music collection on the iPhone, it's a no-go.

If I want to add some songs from a CD at home to my wife's iPhone - but using the nearest handy laptop to do it - it's not authorised - a no-go.

Or if I want to buy songs via iTunes and later export them to play on my car player - because I use a cheap MP3 player that I can leave permanently connected in the car - again, a no-go.

So many restrictions. I can and do work around them but will never be happy with iTunes.

Youve nailed it for me there - its the ecosystem that seals it for me : the very restrictive environment that will annoy techies is the whole selling point - my 75 year old dad can work his iphone and itunes, as can my wife and (obviously) my kids. You get a lot more choice in your media management with Android - but you cant beat the simplicity of itunes combined with an iphone : although if anything thats gone backwards of late ...

This phone is possibly overprices based on the technology : a moto G for £100 will probably produce a better benchmark score = but that misses the whole point. Your paying a premium to join an ecosystem. If your not happy to do that, fine, but dont take the ranting moral high ground that we see to often on HUKD.

Too many people dont realise that their opinion is not fact.

the problem with that is most of the young generation don't really care about the spec, its the status that comes with Apple products. Like it or not Apple has such a strong brand that they don't need to bring out the next big thing, they did that and caught the customers way back when. Who would have thought people would camp out over night to buy a phone, my generation simply don't get it but the younger ones will camp out and pay over the odds on launch day just to say they got the new phone.

From the sales figures it also suggests that Android users are switching to Apple in large numbers which could be because of the whole end to end product range, as has been said before once you are on iTunes its very difficult to have different ways of managing content across different devices. Look at what Google had to do with the chromecast make it work with Apple devices who would have though that.

Problem I see with all of this is the rivalry, its worse than football rivalry, will never understand why buying a Apple phone will cause some people so much anger :disappointed:

I get where your coming from, your not very techie and you don't mind using old technology (if it ain't broke, don't fix it). For the younger generation with a bit more nouse i wouldn't recommend this phone at this price.

added to the discription

I don't think any deal should assume someone has something already. If you need something that costs £5 then it should be mentioned, and if you have it already then that's a bonus.

Many people will already HAVE a GiffGaff SIM for a second/spare/car handset. In this case you do NOT have to buy another!

Ordered the 32GB model Sunday afternoon, it arrived Monday midday. You're obliged to buy a GiffGaff SIM, minimum spend £5, that should be mentioned in the deal. My logic is, as an Apple cult member (attempts to leave the cult have failed), and finding the iPhone 6 too big for belt clip/pocket use, the iPhone 5s is the only viable replacement for my old 16GB 4s. The 4s is still working beautifully and is fast enough on IOS 9, but will now go on EBay and raise about £80.

I'm purely going on what you get for your money.

The form factor of the 5s makes it the best phone. If only android had a phone as well designed and built at the 5s I'd come back... Sony has made a good effort but every manufacturer (including Apple now) have decided bigger is better which simply isn't true!! Make small phones again please!

Not if Microsoft forces everybody to Windows 10 first! :wink:

Seriously? Your going with "damp squid"?

I have an iPhone. I like apple products. I just don't think this is a good deal. Isn't that what the comments section is for? How sensitive are you people if a bit of criticism of a deal is "moaning".

People can have different opinions to you y'know.

Don't worry about it soon everyone will be on iOS :smiley:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3293254/The-decline-Android-Record-number-users-abandoning-mobile-software-favour-Apple.html

If I was you, I'd take stock of the points in DominicPTS' post above (which he's put far more eloquently than I could be bothered with), calm down, and find something actually worth getting worked up about.

I'm trying to educate you because you seem really naive. For this price for this phone is a big no no. If this was an Iphone 6 then i would vote this hot, if this phone was sub £180 then i would vote this hot. £300 for this phone???

What about people who don't want an Android-based phone?

Far be it from me to suggest you're slightly blinded by a loyalty that possibly isn't reciprocated, but who exactly are you setting out to save from the mortal perils of free choice?

When it comes to technology IT'S ALL ABOUT SPEC'S. Year in year out phone makers are trying to out do each other, this phone at this price with these spec's is unbelievable. If you ever owned a flagship Android phone 2013 onwards we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Can't disagree there, I have a Sony Z3 Compact which is great, and work give me an Iphone 6. I just don't like the OS, the phone whilst more premium than the Sony, feels cheaper than old Iphones, I guess because it is just so light.

The only thing I like about Iphones is the camera, my girlfriend is always astonished when I chuck the Iphone in my laptop bag and carry on using my Sony! Each to their own.

Seems like alot for a 2 generations old phone, I know it's time machine time but when the Iphone 6 dropped to £460 odd, I put it through bespoke offers and paid the equiv of £355 for my girlfriend (and cashback actually paid on that)...but surely not long until the 6 is openly available at that price from resellers?

Another spurious site?? http://selfhelp.carphonewarehouse.com/SelfHelp/request.do?view%28%29=c{ede583e0-1fa9-11df-4872-f20203001e3d}

It's because people are prepared to pay it. I'd suggest, far from it just being what people like you think, that it is because it is not all to do with spec and numbers, it's about feel, familiarity and the way it feels to use. It's like cars - just because one is better on paper doesn't mean the other one is totally inferior and that not one person should buy it. What many geeks don't realise is that if a phone does everything we want of it and more, telling us that one with a different OS that does even more than more than we want from it is not really of interest if all we want to do is send texts, make calls, surf the web and listen to music. Most phones do this admirably, and a split second faster but an OS that is alien to us isn't going to convince us to change. I for example have an Android phone for work that's supposed to be technically better than my iPhone4, but my iPhone4 feels like comfy slippers whereas I the work phone just doesn't feel right and I don't like it at all.

A 5s for 300 and you vote hot? Wake up apple fan buys and girls it's y years old phone, and it's slow, technology worth about a 100£ without the apple logo. Please do prove me wrong!

This phone or the LG G4? (3rd best phone on this planet right now) or the Moto X 2nd gen (Best phone of the year 2014) for £200-220.
If you want to make a comparison for like for like phones that came out in the same year then it's the Iphone 5s vs LG G2 (Best phone of the year 2013). The LG G2 is twice the phone for 3rd of the money.
If this deal was for the Iphone 6 i wouldn't hesitate to vote this hot but £300 for old spec like this??? Unbelievable!!!

Bit of a damp squid.

It is says all iPhones from Giffgaff are unlocked and never will be locked. Whats your problem boy? Stop confusing people.

Don't worry about it android users can't buy it :smiley:

​Not sure what you've been smoking but is there a deal on here for it?

Interesting to see Giff Gaff supplies them unlocked. A while back, any iPhone not bought directly from Apple would lock to first network used. When did this Apple policy change? It's an important detail for me as the value difference to me happens to be in the £80 ballpark.

Also, the 32GB version is £349. i'd be migrating from a 4s with 16GB and trust me, there's never enough memory. I have 5GB music, a few photos, say 150MB BBC iPlayer, 600MB satnav and then a long string of apps which are the point of owning an iPhone in the first place. What with updates roosting in my iPhone seemingly almost as soon as the previous one's installed, 16GB is forever full - do not buy the 16GB version!

Paid £229 for an LG G4. I do prefer iOS, but prices are crazy.

Hi - What is the difference between the UK and US version? Should i not buy a US version? Thx

Fully unlocked iPhones are only available from Apple direct. From anywhere else they lock onto the first sim stuck in them.

Its a good saving over launch RRP but when compared to other technology items 2 generations behind, it's considerably more expensive. Cold from me on the basis newer and better tech can be obtained same price.

Wtf are you talking about. It's a comments section for discussion. Don't read the bloody comments if you're so precious that you get all prissy seeing comments that discuss the deal, whether they be positive or negative.

Your wrong, I'm afraid. Thats two years old and no longer applies - Giff Gaff mobiles are completely unlocked. Mine never saw a giff gaff sim, they were bought and an existing EE sim inserted ... (but I did put another sim in later to check it was indeed unlocked)

I am a bit of a phone freak, I tend to change mine every 6 months... I have owned most Galaxy SX since the S2, a whole host of other Android, Windows and Apple based phones.

Currently on a Iphone 6S having recently swapped from my Galaxy S6. My main point here is I not really in any camp either Apple or Android...

I had the 5S for a short spurt, my opinion is the screen is an odd shape, the battery is extremely poor and the phone is what I would class as "average". This was my experience 2 years ago when it was brand new, now we are 2 years on and technology has obviously advanced...

Even at a reduced price your money would be better spent on a current gen Android handset, there are a range of different sizes from around 4" to the larger 5" handsets. The LG G4 has been mentioned multiple times in this post, also Oneplus have just released the Onyx. If you are intent on sticking with Apple put the money towards the *much* better 6 or 6S you will simply not regret it.

Hope this at least helps a few people :smiley:

So long as it's not payg.

You sure about that ?

I'd buy from GiffGaff but then again you may have issues going into an Apple store for a replacement? Not sure.

That's an old article written before giffgaff had a relationship with Apple until they started selling iPhones in 2014 iPhones wouldn't show giffgaff as the network, that all changed with the sale of true unlocked iPhones.

My son has a G4 and his intended has an iPhone 5s and it looks like a toy compared to the G4 lol. Both same price at time of buying. Pointedly, when she's watching her favourite shows on netflix she borrows the G4 lol. BUT this IS 80 quid less than the frankly ridiculous RRP so is a deal in the strict sense of the word.

Hot! I'm looking for a 5c personally, anyone seen any good deals for one?

Go to applestore show them this they will price match :-)

Yes, it's wrong, bad information. Like a lot of rubbish on the web.

Like a machine or some poor kid taking a GCSE English exam.

Did you read the link?

Lol, you do realise it's damp "squib"?!

Deal will go hot, simply because it is hot.

Just my opinion but it seems some people have moved away from the way HUKD used to be, where the voting was deterministic, basically the best price to get a certain product is hot. It seems to be changing now to a subjective personal preference system where people vote cold because they feel something is too expensive. It's become far less useful now because of this, but thankfully those messing it up are still in the minority and the best price usually wins through in the end. As is the case here.

Oh, and those dog-in-the-manger voters, don't get me started about them.

Tim Cook : "Revenue of 234 billion, an increase of 28 percent, and 58 billion dollars over 2014. To put that into some context, our growth in one year was greater than the full-year revenue of almost 90 percent of the companies in the Fortune 500"
Amazing company? Or rip-off merchants duping the young, unwise masses. I think Apple are incredible (I wont say at WHAT), but I don`t have an Iphone..... I`m too old.

You mean "Damp Squib"

Congratulations... you got number 1! :smiley:

£299 is still waaaay over priced for a very crappy phone.

1570 mAh battery yum yum, 1 GB Ram yummy... £299 yummier!!! I'm rubbing myself into a frenzy thinking wow what a great deal this is.... I WANT ONE soooo bad.

Some people confuse the hot/cold system with a box that asks them to review the products on offer :P

Got to love the moaners, no point in having a hot deal section if moaners like you just log on to post a complaint. Click through to moan about an apple deal do you do the same if you don't like Heinz beans, bet you don't. Glad to see something keeping you happy.

More money than sense..

Ah yes, the old "you've never posted deals so you can't have an opinion" rubbish.

I've never driven a formula one car, so can't I have the opinion Lewis Hamilton is a good driver.

I've never cooked a beef Wellington, so I can't have an opinion if it tastes nice.

I've never programmed a video game, so I can't have an opinion if Fallout 4 is a good game...and so on.

I don't have to post deals to know what a good deal is you spanner. And the rrp isn't always indicative of a good deal on this site, evidenced by the fact that he community very rarely give heat to Apple deals.

Don't worry about it the droids are finally losing the battle, recent research shows that while Apple devices are selling in high numbers android is suffering. You will be on the dark side soon I am sure :smiley:

There is an old saying on the site don't moan until you have posted deals, you can't moan about how the site works if in 3 years and one deal and a cold one at that :disappointed: The logic of site has always been vote on the deal, not the product, not the rrp is to high and if you look at the bottom of the page in the help section it shows that a deal is something cheaper than rrp. Been working like that since the site started and will never change. Post a couple of deals my friend and people might take you seriously.

Because, judging from the heat, the sheeple still buy them.

Never really understood the apple/android fan bases, I've got both on different devices, only thing I would say is Apple prices are absurd but quality is great.

cold its not a moto g with a higher spec for £80

come on guys. I don't like Apple either, but if this is a genuine saving against RRP then this is a good deal. Hot.

Might be an older model but at least it has ios9. Can't see many 3 gen old android phones getting timely new updates. For me that is the main benefit of an iPhone (and I flip between the two regularly).

They have a point. There is nothing in there that justifies the price.

That long screen is revolutionary.

its a good deal if you need a new iPhone and dont fancy the big new screen sizes. Iphones were never cheap so this is a good price for a new decive

Same here, though back in the days of e-tones, DCT 3 Nokias and when you had to know your F-BUS from your M-BUS.

Just got to the point where I spent more time modifying things than actually using the device.

YouTube has spawned a generation of phone 'experts' who can follow a video tutorial.

The 5s still runs well on the latest games, good price.

At around £600, the new model is double the price and not everyone can afford the latest models.

This is a decent price as far as it goes, but I'm not fond of apple. I own an Ipad, but to be honest, I much prefer my Android device, and it has the added benefit of removable SD storage. I have also found that as Apple update their operating system, it gets more confusing to use, unlike it used to be.

This is hot for the price though

I considered this before my s6. The 5s might be slightly underpowered now but it is a smaller screen size and it is one of the sexiest phones ever. For this price I would have bought it. Hot :smiley: also 32gb is £349 but gold is oos.

I'm not a fan of apple, however this is a good price for one of these, so you have heat from me.

I personally can't wait to change my phone and even possibly move off Android! My last iPhone was a 3GS and I wanted something with a larger screen so moved to an Xperia. The phone started getting too slow so I moved to the flagship phone of the time - the S4. Had enough of it throwing errors up when I plug my headphones in (recommended apps has crashed) and the becoming possessed when I receive a message and the keyboard becomes non responsive. I've also got an S4 mini for work so won't be leaving Android completely, but that is just too small.

Yes I could flash it, install a custom firmware and purchase 5 batteries (that's what all the other Android commentators ever go on about right?) but I want a phone that works. I did all of those things years ago in the XDA \ Smartphone days (when XDA developers was pre Android!)

I couldn't care less that I can buy an Android phone that has much better specs (every phone that is ever released is already years out of date due to R&D).....if the OS and bloatware is still buggy then it doesn't matter. Coincidently a workmate has the Sony Z1 and said his phone does the same with messages, so it must be an Android OS thing.

If you have a personal preference, good for you, but don't vote down a deal as it is something that you don't like? That applies for the LG fan boys voting down Samsung deals and vice versa.

Love what you have? Found a great deal on it? Post it. Don't like something else then move along. The comments on these posts are equivalent to someone walking into a shop and shouting at the staff that they aren't going to buy the item on offer as they have a better one at home.

Sellers refurbished, means they wipe it with a cloth, 1 year warranty from the seller, let us know how that works out when it stops working, pay the extra rather than having a phone you know nothing about :disappointed:

Always amuses me how supposedly grown adult Android users feel the need to name call those who prefer Apple users, calling them idiots etc, yet the supposed idiots just live and let live. It's the same with virtually every such thread and discussion. I'm not sure whether those who spend their time comparing specs, feeling the need for the latest gadgetry and getting angry about Apple users are of a type of character and many Apple users are more relaxed about it all?

Just to add per my previous post, there are different types of Apple user. I confess to finding those who must have the latest phone when it comes out like lemmings, but that goes for all such people.

I do feel as someone who gets all the benefits of a smart phone that I need, without the cost and without the inner desire to compare specs or get the latest phone all the time, quite content.

Chill out and let people spend their money how they want and have the phones they like. As I said, it's not all about spec.

wow 299 for a 2 year old phone you must be off your head. :sunglasses: Don't know why apple don't just retire these old phones that are guaranteed to get slower with every pending software update l.

Now, I can understand why people buy apple products, they have a very premium feel and iOS is iDiot proof but, this phone is two generations old, it shouldn't be more that £199 new, hell, I purchased a brand new Samsung Galaxy S6 for £10 more than this deal!

Wouldn't purchase the iphone 5 at this stage.

Because of idiots who buy Apple hardware with their eyes closed

In any of these considerations you need to include the initial cost which would be 600£ for the iphone vs 300£ for the LG G4 (we are talking about deal prices rather than rrp's)

So an iPhone lost almost 75% of its value while the LG lost about 50% (admittedly iPhone had a longer period but it is unlikely either of the phone will lose a lot of value further.

You can also consider that you lost 440£ on an iPhone and lost 140£ on the value of an LG G4.

All that besides the G4 is a massively better phone, it is 2 years newer flagship and as would be expected beats this iphone in virtually every spec there is. Apart from being a completely different form factor (4.2" screen vs 5.5").

All in all if you are tied up in the Apple ecosystem and want a smaller phone, go for it but I would wholeheartedly recommend moving to Android, (I went from iPhone 4s to Nexus 5 and it was one of the best tech moves I ever did in my life).

All this results in my cold vote.

To recycle iPhone 5s 16GB (2013, September)
max you get £160
http://www.sellmymobile.com/phone/apple-iphone-5s-16gb/

To recycle LG G4 (2015, April)
max you get £160
http://www.sellmymobile.com/phone/lg-g4/

With iPhone your money go further

from US, who cares? We are in UK.

And Fleabay phones get blocked after a while!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Apple-iPhone-5s-32GB-Factory-Unlocked-Smartphone-Gold-/291410634708?hash=item43d96d67d4:g:~nwAAOSwDNdVgiYd

^ one year warranty + 32gb

Yeah I believe you...


Impressive enough for you to comment on.

£300 for a 2+ year old phone and people consider it a deal?

Wow. Apple really is able to milk their products. It is really quite impressive.

LOL, I love my LG G4, to think that 300 quid for this last years model is considered good value is shocking!

It's a good deal! Thanks OP, tempted to go back to ios myself - just whether the 6s is worth the cost increase over the 5s!

I'm confused if people are against the iphone why are they even opening this thread? I'm not into gaming so don't open them and I certainly don't vote them cold

Love how if an iPhone deal doesn't go hot, it's automatically assumed because android users are voting cold lol. Grow up.

Hot

Good find

​Oh is it like an auction site?..... So still 100 quid cheaper? Of course i know how it works and I still appreciate that your Deal is a cracker

A lot for a phone that will prob be crippled by the next software update with not all the new features.

At that price worth paying a a bit extra for the iPhone 6.

Look at the size of those bezels!

Cold.

Good deal for brand new. Voted hot. But some quick digging can get fairly new condition for much less if that's your thing ​http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=252147852650

I'm a huge Android fan and this is a good deal imo have some heat op.

Wish it was still possible to pick up the 64GB version. Looks like I'm stuck with my knackered 5 unless they bring out a new model 4" phone

Some prefer iOS, granted I'd go for the G4 over this but android doesn't suit everyone

hot from me nice find.

I just bought a certified refurb from Amazon for 265, sold by Amazon, I suspect they're direct from Apple.

Can get for 260 new on ebay so cold from me

how much for a2 generation old phone?

why so cold? heat from me

Is there a link you could send me?

Thanks my sister is wanting one of these so she will be pleased about this