Since owning a Lexus, it’s amazing the number of Lexi you see around. Because that’s the plural.

They call Lexus "the Japanese Mercedes"

Same way the Q7 in your profile pic is a Skoda's with a "diff" badge :smiley:

Everyone, it's a standard comparison for comparing the acceleration rate of a car.

haha got there before me.

FACT.

They did in the 90's when noone knew what they were

That's an insult to Lexus nowadays though.

Not since the 90's.

You wont get smoother than a CVT

Really? That's amazing economy

If only it were plug in too

It's not a plug in hybrid , the motor works in conjunction with the 2.5 litre petrol engine which kicks in at circa 30mph . Recharges through engine overrun and braking etc .Granted it won't go far in EV mod in city traffic but if like most cities you struggle to average jogging pace it's not too bad . I agree most hybrids are still playing at it but in 5 to 10 years time with the new emission regs they will be as common as diesels are now

Lexus out sells Mercs and BMW's in the USA . I have a IS220d simply because I didn't want to follow the Herd. I've not driven the Hybrid IS but have done about 800 miles in a CT it's not for me its just a an Auris with more up market trim . Like a dirty Audi is over the dirty VW.
The IS however is a proper rear wheel drive car just a shame there is no estate version

...me too ! including those BMWs. ..every Tom dick and Harry owns one and they pollute the atmosphere with rigging of emissions

It's a nice motor and a great price so I'll give it heat.

However....as someone that wants their next car to be both reasonably nippy and environmentally friendly this car doesn't quite hit the mark.

To be fair though most hybrids don't, in my opinion. Many give you an electric range of about 25-30 miles and then you're onto the black stuff from hereon in. For the miles I'm doing that'd mean charging the battery twice a day. Not practical.

The other minor detail is its emissions rating is higher than ideal for a hybrid and means the BIK value isn't much more favourable than my Euro 6 engined Mazda 6. Roll on the day we can get an electric Tesla for sub £30k with a range of 300 miles :smiley:

Still a nice looking motor this Lexus and it's heading in the right direction.

I doubt it. I don't do mega miles and I'm considering a V10 for my next car. Demand will always exist for performance vehicles, if they get more efficient then all the better. BMWs are common to be fair because most of them are very good. The XE however is the car I would pick in this segment.

if they were then 0- 5mph would be relevant, plus crash protection from driving through shop windows

agree. Even managed to better 40mpg in my Audi s3 2014

people who like driving, are you boring

It's only a matter of time till we are all forced into "green" cars like this so better get used to it!

The main thing I dislike about BMW is they are as common as muck, I prefer to be a bit different seriously thinking of one of these to replace my XF

Yeah I was thinking that, the 335d is a rocket ship compared to this. This is more like a 320d. Except the 320d will actually manage 55mpg+ whereas this probably won't in the real world. This is a curio though I guess

Errrr no, it's rear wheel drive.

All electric

Buy a Tesla. 0 to 60 in 2.8 seconds

'They' being Alan Partridge.

Non est.

Is this a four wheel drive ?

You will need enough money.

Q7. Better get yourself to spec savers

I've got a Golf MK6 and a Mitsubishi FTO. I'm getting bored of the Golf, the GT86 or BRZ is tempting, but yeah just not practical I guess which is why I have the Golf, and the FTO for budget messing about.

I want the Lexus

It has one gear.

Needed rear seats basically. Would have another one in a heart beat. I've owned an S2000 which most petrolheads would consider to be one of the best drivers cars ever and the GT86 is truly better in every department in my opinion.

Except 0-60mph, of course.:laughing:

Would never buy another lexus after my experiences with the previous IS 220d

Hmmm, things are improving. Thread started well and was quite a few posts in before it generated into the usual rubbish pub talk you get on car deals.

The Top Trumps players going on about pointless 0-60 times need to be looking at in gear acceleration, which is actually useful for overtaking.

Why did you sack the GT86?

A layby.

Had a premier version one of these while my car was serviced and have to say I was quite impressed.

Very smooth ride, fairly spacious and certainly quick enough. Feels at home in busy London traffic, and even with my foot down whenever possible, fuel economy was really good. Might be tempted into one of these but just not sure its big enough for me.

Now available with 0% APR Representative across the IS range^^

The new IS 300h Sport delivers a number of sports-themed styling touches to the IS 300h in addition to a high level of standard specification, such as heated seats and Lexus Navigation.

Representative example IS 300h Sport
Term 24 months
23 Monthly Payments £299.00
Cash Price £30,605.00
Customer Deposit £6,110.50
Representative APR 0% APR^^
Amount of Credit £24,494.50
Guaranteed Future Value/Optional Final Payment £17,617.50
Total Amount Payable £30,605.00

My husband's does.

Wait till I get my hands on her.

Was thinking that myself. Like Insurance groups even make some differences at times. Just over a year ago doubled insurance groups, tripled car value and payed £10 more back then and no difference in renewal price either (£325,Fully Comp, 11 years NCB Protected) shook my head myself and I was expecting a quote of around 30-40% increase.

I really loved the look of this car. Took a test drive but wasn't really impressed with the handling nor the quality of the interior "plastics" (At the RRP price point at the time) but apart from some of the materials loved the layout and look. Now someone shoot me but listen first! I really liked the look of the Infiniti G35 from website pictures looked to be nicer interior quality price at the time was favouring the Infiniti now my big but. Never got to see nor drive one in the flesh as they pulled from franchised dealerships to own leaving N.Ireland with no dealers (took abit of reading to find out why none in N.Ireland when I knew before we did have one). So maybe this might help someone in having another consideration. Guess I've went off topic so back to topic at this price wonderful car voted hot!
Ok cue the guess poster drivers an Alfa and awaits the jokes! Anyhow I'll be waiting now on the Alfa Giulia!

£10,000 if your 17 £20 if your 60.....what a stupid question.

Really, what do YOU drive? Oh I forgot Trolls can't drive...

Pretty sure its not even a platform share - its a standalone model

Just like an Audi is a VW with a different badge.

The new ones are superb LCD.

Superb Car!

Class leading reliability combined with award wining customer service. Heat from me.

Terrible mpg, I really don't understand why we have to put up with such poor mpg it's 2015 :confused:

Insurance group 31, how much is it per month ?

Yes. That is the basics of a car, I think I would be sacked if I didn't know that :smile:

As for the design of the car, the engine type, the marketing or wheels :confused:. That's not my field so I'm afraid you will have to ask someone else. I do however have experience of driving this model and that experience is what I have based my opinions on.

Now go back to playing Need for Speed. :wink:

It's called badge snobbery, the only way to let the world know you have made it is to drive a base spec white diesel German brand on an expensive finance deal whilst you its in the dealership half the time getting fixed.

Oh sori m8, didnt kno me was writings an epic letter to da queen, plz do expect my apoligis.

Another person who can't read posts. I didn't say its based on the Mondeo, bloody hell, I said it feels like a Mondeo, its really cheap inside with an interior similar to a Mondeo, otherwise a fairly nice car, but the Lexus build and quality is vastly superior.

Thats what the German brand do though, there all the same models, conservative, diesel, white, black interior, driven by millions of sheep. At least the Lexus has some edging styling to it.

Can you show me where I have slated the Mondeo? The XE is supposed to be a premium exec saloon, but it feels like a Mondeo which is a class below, thats not slating the Mondeo, if anything its more of a compliment.

I'ts so entertaining to read some of your comments hahahahahahahahaha
How can you tell whats the car is like to drive and basically make an opinion until you haven't actually driven one?
I think the styling and the interior WAY NICER then any BMW/Mercedes/Audi and its a great drive too! I had the previous IS before I got the 300h F sport and we never had to take it to a garage and it was the most reliable car i ever had! Once you own a Lexus you never have any other car!
This is a truly amazing car! And if you can afford it it's well worth to pay the extra for the Mark Lewison system as its just mind blowingly good!

Mesa red is nice

The price has increased on the IS 300

The problem with diesels for me is the noise and roughness. Yes they have improved over the years, but still no match to the smoothness of a petrol engine.

any one got pcp numbers?

Despite your dreadful grammar (Audi's what?; VW's what?; 'epically' spelling, and check definition - nothing to do with your rant) I largely agree with you up to the point where you seem to be confusing the XE (great car) with the completely different and long extinct X-Type (Mondeo based OK car).

no they dont its just a fancy toyota.. mercs are just taxis

They don't really believe this otherwise they wouldn't have picked out the GT86 sports car or top of the line F Sport variant that they did, even if they do pay roughly 50% less than Joe Bloggs. They've made a handful of daft statements and are just shouting anything that can now rather than sitting down.

I can see an employee of the month award coming here! Simply inform senior management that "The point of it is to transport you and up to 4 other people from point A to point B" and they can do away with the design department. All cars the same colour, same wheels, same engine, no options. Forget aesthetics and human psychology: the point of a car is to transport you from A to B.
I can see this idea catching on! Glad to hear Toyota/Lexus is staffed by such sharp minds as yourself

I guess you are not a night street racer...

My 10 year old mini is faster...... than this 2.5l "sport" lexus

Poor mpg for a hybrid. Higher depreciation than the prestige German brands. I have a 320d 3 Series Business Edition 163 bhp and get 65.5 mpg (actual)

5yr warranty on the Hybrid components

review http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/lexus/is/64062/lexus-300h

No leather seats?

CVT gearbox would put me off. They're fine in smaller cars like a Mini but these should really be automatic dual clutch boxes for performance and smoothness.

I hate Mercs

People who drive them are just saa saa sad

I work for Toyota/Lexus so get a new car every year on the work scheme which works out at roughly 50% less than what Joe Bloggs would pay for each month.

I have had just about every car Toyota/Lexus make.

The point of it is to transport you and up to 4 other people from point A to point B.

.....
Odd behaviour for somebody not bothered by sports performance...
Odd choice of car for somebody who doesn't pick a car on sports performance.....
I get it, you're all show and no go......
But it's MPG is distinctly average, if not a little below, especially for it's (lack of) performance. So, again, what is the point of it?

I got the Executive version of this car on a lease deal a few months ago. I'm not a car nut and couldn't care less what badge is on it, but I do love mine. It's so quiet - not just when the electric motor is powering it

I knew it was quick on a standing start but never knew why until now. I drive exclusively on Eco mode - apart from when I need to get past something at traffic lights, just drop into into Sport, pedal down and away you go...

Good saving on new, heat added, but it's always funny seeing 5 figure "deals" on the same page as "1kg potatoes, was £2.50 no £1.50!!!" :smile:

My point exactly, this isn't a sports car. It's exactly the same engine as the basic SE model. The F Sport tag is just badging for people who are bothered about looks. The 0-60 time or BHP isn't the selling point, Its MPG and Hybrid engine is. The reason I didn't achieve the claimed mileage is because I have a heavy right foot, my car before the IS was a GT86 and going into a CVT requires a change of driving style. As someone else said up to about 35mph in Sport mode, this will beat anything at the lights, maybe they should put the 0-35 time in the specs :wink:

And yes, it has a little switch in which plays fake engine noise into the cabin for people who are confused when they find they are driving a silent car.

Love it!!!

You sure that shouldn't be Lexii?
Though to be honest, there's a much more commonly used collective noun for this same bunch.

lovely colour ,shyte car

So by that theory, there are lots of Mercedi and on the road and an Audi owner actually owns more that one Audus.

:smirk:

You talk about badge snobbery and then slate the Mondeo. Yes there are millions on the roads and they have a rep mobile reputation. They are still very competent cars.

Meh. Might have to get it remapped to get it back :laughing:

One things for sure mate, it won't go any faster!

I'm just trying to get my head around how the adjustment will actually alter the performance? And will it improve or reduce performance? I assume it will reduce the MPG.

0-60 in 10 minutes :laughing:

Funnily enough I got the letter just yesterday :laughing:

Sport?



My Skoda Superb Diesel



Maybe they should have called mine 'sport'?

They call Lexus "the Japanese Mercedes"

Nice car but it doesn't compare to the 335d!

I'd rather have the 3 series GT

Everyone, it's a standard comparison for comparing the acceleration rate of a car.

Lexus: Toyota with bling. Designed primarily for the US market where they value different characteristics to those us Europeans appreciate. Not 'bad' cars but hardly something to aspire to.

This or a 2.0 jag xe?

Yeah, maybe, for all of 3 seconds IF you pick your challenger carefully.

Seriously, any of the other luxury saloons in even their most basic diesel outing will beat it...and probably while getting better mpg.

I suppose they look different, makes a change to the boring BMW 3 series, even though that is a better car than this one.

You don't see many angry faces in Nissan Micras.

I quite like these. Is this the model where it makes fake engine sounds or varies the revs to make it seem more like a 'normal' car?

8.3 seconds to 60mph seems shockingly slow for a 2.5 litre petrol engine with a 141 BHP electric motor.

Actually, a lot of people. If they didn't then why would any slightly performance car exist?

But I wasn't judging the car, I was expressing my surprise at a car with a 2.5l petrol engine coupled to a 143bhp electric engine only doing 60mph in 8.3 seconds. The new Audi A4 with a 1.4l petrol engine does 60mph in 8.7 seconds and gets similar fuel economy, the 2.0l petrol does 60mph in 7.3 seconds and claims a combined 59mpg.

So what is the point of this configuration? It is neither sporty or frugal (by your own admission you only averaged 40mpg, which any modern petrol car matches or betters).

It's an important metric to most people. Are you 73?

I drove am older IS220D around 5 years ago and the interior was great, as were the gadgets in the car, but the drive was pretty awful. Has the new one improved much? The sub 100 g/km versions of this car are great company car buys. As someone else mentioned, getting around the 50mpg mark is typical if you have a mixed commute based on some of the reviews I've seen. Voted hot as second hand prices don't seem significantly better than this.

Edit: I feel I should point out that this is comparable in speed to a new 318d BMW, no where near a 335d as mentioned in the OP.

It's a Toyota with a diff badge !

The only reliable luxury/executive car brand that beats average reliability and is in the top ten plus includes many options elsewhere as standard. However generally driving dynamics etc not as good as BMW, Jaguar etc. Personally I've never been a fan of Lexus styling myself though. This one doesn't seem too bad but much prefer the styling of Jags and Mercedes.

http://www.reliabilityindex.com/manufacturer

​ OK. So the cabin.

My current car its the worse ever for this. I'm not a giant though and I don't live in there.

Or should I say, Brilliant! A-haaaaa

Brilliant

Beautiful looking car!

Most Lexus have a beautiful woman in the passenger seat

Yep my 220d was awful too. The engine and gearbox were beyond bad. I'd probably still be tempted by this as the rest of the car was good. Oh except for the clock.. if you ever owned one you'll probably know what I mean!

I thought 'cost comparison site' when I first read it :/

so the engine only puts out 82 bhp?

Did you mean sport seats that prevent your body from moving all over the place when cornering?

what a terrible website to navigate.

good website

I had the F Sport last year through work scheme and it's a lovely car, I agreed not worth buying new as I was offered a lower spec 1 year old one for £19,000. The car itself has all the gadget you would expect and full electric seats. It even move back when you turn the engine off to make it easier for you to get out. Being a hybrid it will take getting used to even if you already have an auto. The gearbox is CVT so needs to been driven smoothly (half throttle) to get the best mpg. Slightly odd for it to have paddle shift however this is useful as "engine braking" if you don't want to lose too much momentum. The rear space and boot is huge and the sound proofing is very good. The only downside was mpg of which I averaged 40, the CT200H I changed to gives me 50, although it feels much more average.

The driving space probably is considered small if you are an elephant, however no less small than any other saloon in its class.

A car park?

The seat, and controls, and space around you is a bit like being in an Economy seat on BA, being sandwiched between two fat people who keep resting their fat arms, and shoulders on you.

Now a big driving area is when you lay on the sand and nobody else exists...

​ What's small driving space?

worth paying £580 for white colour?

Very good car for an ever better price.

Company car scheme I'm guessing

This car in gorgeous, always been put off by the rate of depreciation. Tempted to look into this one though!

good deal, a colleague has just got one on the ccs, small driving space though, mpg is is only 48 mind

these look epic in person, heat!

Good price this heated