Wileyfox, gorilla glass, what am I buying here a phone or a zoo? :wink:

£3.99 in WHSmiths mate

- Not everybody wants a 5.5" screen
- Comes unlocked out of the box to any network.
- Has Cyanogen pre-installed
- Has better build quality

Currently loving my Swift.

Rear camera is good, but not spectacular. Front-facing camera is neither here nor there.

GPS has been faultless for me, which contrasts with some of the worrying reports I'd read.

The primary SIM is 4G, the secondary SIM is not. I've got a Giffgaff SIM (O2 MVNO) in slot one, and will be putting a SIM from The People's Operator (EE MVNO) in slot two.

Battery life is fine. I generally get through a full day without recharging, unless I watch a few hours of Netflix as well and then it needs a topup. While it's not "fast charging", it charges pretty quickly on a decent charger or powerbank.

It's smooth and fast, and the only bug I've encountered so far was when restoring from SMSBackup+, the timestamp info was reset. It's a CM12 bug supposedly. Everything else has worked just fine.

I had cause to ring the customer services team when I first had it, because there was a tiny visual blemish on the screen. My call was answered in about ten minutes.

I thought might be a tiny fragment of hair beneath the factory-fitted screen protector. I didn't want to remove the screen protector without checking with them first, because if it was a scratch, it would have looked like I'd scratched it myself.

They offered an immediate RMA, and let me remove the screen protector. Sure enough, it was a tiny fragment of hair or something (width of a hair, an probably less than a millimeter in length) so I didn't have to RMA it (although they said I could if I wanted).

Very happy.

Hell of a phone for the money.

Wileyfox, gorilla glass, what am I buying here a phone or a zoo? :wink:

looks good, nice size but i hear the camera is not great, any other alternatives? similar size, ideally looking at 4.7-5" screen size.

Can someone explain the advantage or otherwise of Cyanogen over Android os, please?

£3.99 in WHSmiths mate

just to add it's a British company that makes this phone that makes a pleasant change :smile:

Have you had a look at the reviews on Amazon?

​ some of them looks ok.

Hard to see why you would go for this over a smart ultra 6?

I like the look their other phone, its not release till the end of the month but think spec/price combination of that is better.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wileyfox-SIM-Free-Smartphone-Cyanogen-MicroSD/dp/B014UUQM52

​ Same as every other mobile maker then.

Already posted

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/wileyfox-swift-4g-dual-sim-free-smartphone-cyanogen-12-1-5-hd-screen-micro-sd-slot-2294265

​From that description it sounds like it's rooted. May have issues running some apps particularly banking if that is the case. I had a rooted sgs2 and couldn't get barclays app to work even with a number of root hide attempts.

​ that's not too bad for me I don't do banking on my phone, but that just leaves a question mark on the other apps I use.

It isn't rooted.

A quick tip though for the Barclays banking app issue. My girlfriend has a similar issue with the Lloyd's banking app. I got around it by setting the web page as a bookmark, and creating a shortcut on the homescreen, so it acts like opening the app essentially.

....including Apple products...... :man:

2500mAh battery isnt attractive for me

Got the storm preordered should be better.

I've been looking at the Xiaomi redmi note 2 which is cheaper. This isn't better is it? I understand the redmi note 2 is bigger

Once the Barclays app has spotted that you're rooted they flag your account so the app will never work until you phone them and promise to be good. I had this and the root cloak module of Xposed Framework allowed me to run the app on a rooted phone, but only after I had phoned Barclays and go them to remove the flag from my account.

EDIT: Other users have reported different experiences below.

I voted hot as it's a good phone for the price. I wouldn't buy one personally though as it doesn't have 5GHZ wifi.

​I was unable to use it on my 3 rooted phones in the past 3 years. Last month bought a G4 and used it without root for a while. For me no flag and tha app worked just nice.

btw this phone for that price is a joke, imo, the only sellong point is CM

better price and better specs on the vodafone smart ultra 6 (bigger battery, bigger, higher rez screen, better processor) although removable battery on swift is a big plus for many.

Thanks for your reply,as usual HUKD fans are a great source of info

I think you'd be better off stumping up for the Storm - a lot more phone for not much more money.

I am not sure that is correct - I have a rooted S5 with CM12.1 and the Barclays app won't work. They invited me to do a beta trial (taking a photo of a cheque to have it credited to your account), so I just installed the app on my wife's vanilla Moto G and the app (and the cheque trial) worked perfectly - no need to call Barclays.
CM is just great - very configurable and uses way less power than the original TouchWiz ROM.

Reviewed here http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/review/budget-smartphones/wileyfox-swift-review-uk-phone-3625777/ seems a good phone for the money but the camera is lacking ..

I know that when I rooted my phone the Barclays app complained (amongst others) and then when I unrooted it again all the others worked apart from Barclays. I googled the issue and there were other people complaining of the same issue. Phoned Barclays and they confirmed that they needed to do something at their end before the app would work again, which they apparently did and the app worked again without me having to do anything further. Having said all that I do not know if that is still the case or what form this "flag" took. It may well be that Barclays kept a note of the android ID/SIM number or other identifying info in order to only block that phone.

This vs Elephone S2? Although s2 is only £91

My experience was with rooting and unrooting the same phone and was probably over a year ago now.
Perhaps it would be better to say that if unrooting your phone does not restore access to Barclays it may be worth calling them.

Lol just tried that for barclays on my rooted note 4 and wow it has an app like feel to it.

cold for me - my iPhone 6+ blows it out of the water

Currently loving my Swift.

Rear camera is good, but not spectacular. Front-facing camera is neither here nor there.

GPS has been faultless for me, which contrasts with some of the worrying reports I'd read.

The primary SIM is 4G, the secondary SIM is not. I've got a Giffgaff SIM (O2 MVNO) in slot one, and will be putting a SIM from The People's Operator (EE MVNO) in slot two.

Battery life is fine. I generally get through a full day without recharging, unless I watch a few hours of Netflix as well and then it needs a topup. While it's not "fast charging", it charges pretty quickly on a decent charger or powerbank.

It's smooth and fast, and the only bug I've encountered so far was when restoring from SMSBackup+, the timestamp info was reset. It's a CM12 bug supposedly. Everything else has worked just fine.

I had cause to ring the customer services team when I first had it, because there was a tiny visual blemish on the screen. My call was answered in about ten minutes.

I thought might be a tiny fragment of hair beneath the factory-fitted screen protector. I didn't want to remove the screen protector without checking with them first, because if it was a scratch, it would have looked like I'd scratched it myself.

They offered an immediate RMA, and let me remove the screen protector. Sure enough, it was a tiny fragment of hair or something (width of a hair, an probably less than a millimeter in length) so I didn't have to RMA it (although they said I could if I wanted).

Very happy.

Hell of a phone for the money.

Links?

it doesn't, but that's a fairly outlying use case.

The Swift is a rebrand of the Cherry Mobile One G1 and the Micromax E455 and the Turkish General Mobile 4G.

The Storm is also a rebrand of a chinese OEM handset, can't find the model right now.

This kind of thing is going to happen more often, people want the cheap Chinese handset prices and features, but with UK back up for warranty etc. It's not a bad thing per se as long as people realise what they're buying.

You could get a Shih Tzu.

rubbish deal you can get a 32GB Xiaomi redmi note 2 for £122 delivered, with Helio X10 SoC
I am about to order my 3rd for friends and family.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Xiaomi-Redmi-Note-2-Prime-Mobile-Phone-MTK-X10-Octa-Core-5-5-1920X1080P-2GB/32436849319.html

Lol Snapdragon 400! that's what my watch is running off!

​Wont be a problem then if it's not rooted, thanks. That process wouldn't work with Barclays though as the issue is you need pin sentry card reader or the mobile app to get in. With the app you just need a 5 digit pin. I fixed it by getting a new phone.

By the time you receive that from it will be outdated. Plus if anything goes wrong you'll be paying loads and waiting ages to get it fix.

just ordered mine yesterday so lets see how it goes when i get it and i will update you guys. but i do need a case for this phone anyone knows a good price full protective case from top to bottom and sides and back ?

Guys the most important thing here is that this device supports 4g on both slots:)

It's regular price for this phone, not a deal. Voted cold.

Mods, y u no spam?

Nobody going to mention the issue of the USB port being recessed and the supplied lead having slightly longer connector to compensate, or the delay in supply of accessories, or the inability to purchase extended warranty or screen insurance, or support only being available by phone, or the insecure website that enter all your personal contact details on?

Cold from me.

https://recombu.com/mobile/article/best-budget-value-phones

wont waste your time with the wiley its worst out of ultra and moto 3rd

Good review thanks, the Moto 3rd gen 16GB is significantly more expensive nearly £100, with a single SIM, and non removable battery, seems a great phone but a bit pricey.
The Ultra is 5.5 inch, I think it's just too big for a phone, I was looking for a 5" display which is still a bit big.
Unlocking the Ultra may/will invalidate warranty from Voda, single SIM, and non removable battery etc.
But if the Ultra suits your requirements then it's the cheapest phone with these such great specs on the UK market.

Just bought this [Wileyfox Swift] from Amazon and so far love it.

I chose this phone primarily since I know it supports CyanogenOS [non-rooted] and also Cyanogenmod [rooted version].

There are many other phones from China, but 95% do not have a polished ROM and even if they do, for how long do you expect to get updates? Also, many from china are based on the MediaTek SOCs and MediaTek has so far chosen to not release the sources code so custom ROMs for longer term support will not likely happen.

Regarding rooting and lack of banking app support, I do not trust any phone enough to put a banking app on it.

In any case, rooting is important to me so I can block adverts, configure the firewall [iptables] and several other useful tools like Titanium backup, autorun manager, ROM backup [nandroid backup via a custom recovery], etc.