Toshiba Chromebook CB30-B-104,
Intel Celeron Processor N2840,
4GB RAM,
16GB eMMc SSD
100GB Google Drive space for 2 years.
*stingebag: 7% quidco
8.08% TCB
Please note that this is the very well reviewed full HD 1080p version and not the cheaper (cca £200) HD version which got bad reviews, mostly for its screen. I believe at the moment this is the best way to get a decent screen on this form factor.
Please note that Chromebooks are not Windows laptops and while you can still do almost anything you can on windows they don't work in the same way so do some reading before you decide to buy.
Most people consider this the best Chromebook (apart from the £800 pixel).
I know it has been offered for £220 but this is the best sub £270 (its RRP) in a while so thought I will post if someone wants one.
JL price matched this no fuss.
Also might be worth considering that the new version has been released in the US (which is virtually the same with a couple of fixes and improvements (such as faster processor)) so these might drop in price for clearance soon.
Also Dell released its (£400) Chromebook 13 which at least on paper beats this Toshiba but it is also more expensive.
I want one to complement my workhorse laptop which is massive and heavy and I don't really need that power most of the time so a smaller much more portable device for writing/reading/browsing might be useful.
Hope it helps someone.
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ossie77
12 Sep 16#47
Can't decide whether or not to pick up one of these. My local Staples has ex-display for £199. However, new machines are undoubtedly just round the corner such as the Acer R13 which is 1080p, IPS, touchscreen. But that will probably cost £300-£350. And then I might as well get an HP x360 i3...Alternative is Acer R11 with 4GB and 32GB for £229. Chrome OS + Android = touchscreen...right?!
jamdog30
10 Jul 16#46
just phoned they have them in stock for 250 quid
jamdog30
10 Jul 16#45
looking on site but no mention of this?
brownjamesa
17 May 16#44
Just picked one of these up with an extra 10% off as its was a demo model, to came to £225.00..
Very happy
elusivejim
10 Nov 15#43
Anyone interested in the Toshiba Chromebook CB35-C3300 in the UK will be very disappointed. After contacting Toshiba UK I was told that there are no plans to release the CB35-C3300 in the UK. Toshiba UK are trying to obtain a list of people who are interested so that they can have this sent to the main office so to review their decision. If you want your name on this list phone Toshiba UK on 0333 222 7444 or perhaps buy a US model. :-(
qwerta369
17 Oct 15#37
£207.50 now.
Nexusfifth to qwerta369
17 Oct 15#38
No, unfortunately that is the price excluding VAT, still 249£ inc VAT, I got confused once before as well.
praevalens to qwerta369
21 Oct 15#42
I saw it at this price too and it said including vat. Just clicked in again and it says 249
Nexusfifth
21 Oct 15#41
It is a decent chip for most uses, yet playing skyrim at low on 768p cca 20fps is not the best experience you can have and for gaming I would advise to pay a little bit more.
But a Chromebook is not intended to play games and as such this chip is pretty decent.
Just a small correction, the N2840 is not the what you call a "defective" chip it was actually top of the line Atom based chip (I might be wrong on this but until m5 and m7 ones I haven't heard of better one which is atom based).
Also I wouldn't call the non-atom celeron's defective, it stings a bit when you hear what they are selling but they are pretty capable and it would be a greater shame and would increase prices overall to throw them away. I would rather compare it to digging out diamonds, you never know what you will get but depending on what you get the price varies.
At this scale it is simply impossible to get a perfect chip every time, (the picture I have in mind is billions of transistors of about 22nm size being arranged in a functional arrangement) and considering this it is frankly mind boggling that they can get a working chip at all, let alone a perfectly working one.
Mind you, a top of the line i7 also fails short of its utmost potential and has errors it is simply the fact there are less of them than in these chips (okay I believe they do have different designs) but I am not sure if the i75500U has a different basic hardware than say an i35010U.
cabbage10
21 Oct 15#40
lol because the buying public that's you and me aren't told that were really getting a chip that hasn't passed all the tests in the manufacturing stage and effectively been sold a defective chip although it does actually seem to perform quite well and has got a fair bit going for it am pleased to hear cant be too bad if it can run skyrim pretty impressive actually
cabbage10
21 Oct 151#39
well am pleased for you you found some use for it it sounds a decent chip by the looks of it and the notebook looks quite nice maybe theres a future for it the chromebook os and this N2840 and am pleased it gives a good performance
cushty1
17 Oct 15#36
Picked mine up from Staples today. Truly amazing bit of kit. The screen is top quality, it boots in seconds....and does everything I need ......get one.
chuchu7
16 Oct 15#35
i have this one - recommend - big plus for me is - u can put ubuntu on it as a second OS, i use xfce4 then u will have Skype and other stuff.
You mixed up a couple of things, the process you are talking about is how they determine between i3 rebrand Celeron's (2905U is the one in the same series as this one) and they are basically i3's which didn't clock high enough while keeping the temperature down (or heated to much with hyperthreading), hence why you need fans for those chips. I would like to see you build transistors of size 22nm without having manufacturing faults...
This one is deliberately built to be weaker (it is a completely different architecture, so based on atom chips) which is intended to run cool and quiet (even fanless in this case) rather than giving you a super powerful chip.
And for your information an intel NUC with this very chip runs "the super complex" windows 10 without hiccup or any lag whatsoever. Can you game with it? No (although for example it runs skyrim just fine at low...).
And guess what when I am doing some kind of "work" I prefer using that quiet nuc than an i7 QM3610 and there is no noticeable difference in performance for 95% of the stuff I do with it...
There is nothing complex about windows btw, it is just written badly so uses too much resources as they built upon many things rather than started from scratch to write some things properly for the time it is used in... Windows is popular because it is simple and most people are used to it and because so many people use it there are by far the most applications available. Still people who know what they are doing often prefer Linux (or even Mac) because they can get more performance out of it.
delboyd
15 Oct 15#33
So why is it lol?
Yeah Chromebook Celeron is okay, prefer my 4790k when at home though.
cabbage10
15 Oct 15#32
What is a Celeron? It started life as Pentium or multi core processor that failed the manufacturing process ie a core or more as many as three failed but didn't get disposed of as at least a core was working so it didn't need to be thrown away so it could be still be sold as a lesser processor.Chrome Os would work reasonably well with it as it is a relatively undemanding and much less sophisticated OS as compared to the likes of windows 8 or 10 .Am pleased that your chromebook works well for you so please don't take it personally as an insult just be more mature and mentally developed about that
hd1080ts
15 Oct 15#31
Got one of these back in August my previous laptops include 15inch MacBook Pro Retina, XPS 17inch, MacBook Pro 17s etc.
If you spend most of your time in Chrome then the 4GB 1080p Toshiba is great and quarter of the price of a MacBook air or similar. Browser speeds feels similar/faster than my XPS.
The only day to day change I made was switching from Skype to hangouts. I still go back to my XPS17 and desktop PC for games, heavy photo work (DXO, Lightroom, Photoshop) video editing (Resolve, Premiere).
For less demanding photos Pixlr (web based photo editor from Autodesk) works well on the Chromebook.
Web based Word, Excel are available via Microsoft One Drive and you have Google drive/docs.
Music/video can be played off an SD card and the Chromebook works with my Fiio E18 USB DAC/headphone amp.
Google give 2 years of 100GB Google Drive space for free with a Chromebook, at the end of the 2 years if you don't subscribe you can still read your files but can't add more files if you use more than the standard free allocation. https://www.google.co.uk/chrome/devices/goodies.html
What bizarre system that would be, prices would be changing on a day to day basis
cabbage10
14 Oct 15#19
Celeron Ha ha lol
Nexusfifth to cabbage10
14 Oct 151#22
Please try to understand what you are talking about, Celeron in a windows machine equals crap, Celeron in a chromebook is perfectly fine, there is far less wasting of resources than in a windows machine and as a result this machine will be faster then many i3's...
In my opinion a great 1080p screen means much more than i3 over Celeron...
Besides The point, I have setup windows 10 on a decent ssd with this same processor in a nuc unit (in total it cost about 120£) to be used as a desktop pc and it is perfectly snappy and fast...
Unless you have a specific purpose for a faster processor (such as gaming, video editing, etc) there is nothing wrong with a Celeron. The problem with Celeron machines is that they are mostly coupled with slow 500GB hard drives which are the actual culprit for those machines being slow...
falfredo to cabbage10
14 Oct 15#25
WTF do you expect at this price with a full HD IPS screen, seriously!
I'm waiting for the new one (with a core-based celeron -ie actually very good, rather than the atom-based one here).. but this is great for someone who just uses facebook and the likes, which is a hell of a lot of people.
delboyd to cabbage10
14 Oct 152#28
This 'Celeron Ha ha lol' will quite happily push Chrome OS along faster than most PCs out there can run Windows.
Mine boots faster than my PC, opens and runs Chrome just about as fast as my PC and also runs much quieter than my PC due to its fanless nature.
Another clueless plum casting their shortsighted, clueless knowledge across HUKD...
Nexusfifth
14 Oct 15#27
Chrome is a memory hog but this is besides the point, I was talking about processors and what I had in mind is:
The full machine setup comparison rather than a fair processor to processor comparison, basically compare this machine to the recent Lenovo G50-70 (with haswell i3 4005u) deal for the same price which came with an i3 and a slow 1TB drive, I stand behind the claim that 6 months down the line this machine will be faster for most of the stuff a person buying such a machine will do.
I am sorry if it sounded wrong, but clearly I do agree that if you put an i3 in the same machine instead of N2840 it would be way faster. My whole argument was simply, for what you would use a chromebook N2840 is perfectly sufficient.
(These observations are based on a lenovo z50-70 I set up for a friend with Haswell i3 and 6 months down the line upgraded to an ssd because it slowed to a crawl, (back to snappy after ssd upgrade) and intel nuc with N2840...)
Also the N2840 in this Chromebook has the benefit of being fanless which might appeal to some people (including me).
falfredo
14 Oct 15#26
I've just been defending the celeron too but that is going too far. It is an atom processor with celeron branding, there is no circumstance it is faster than an i3, and chrome is a memory hog whether on windows or chromeOS. The SSD does make it snappy but that's not down to the processor. If it were a core processor with celeron branding (as the new CB2 will be) then yes, it's close to an i3.
Nexusfifth
14 Oct 15#24
Well in 2 years who knows what will happen with storage prices...
But you can always use an SD card or a USB such as SanDisk Ultra fit, 128GB versions of both were sub 25£ via bespoke recently...
Gollywood
14 Oct 15#2
I've bought something similar for my son but there is only 1GB of usable space on there from new!!. Is it possible to remove stuff off it?
Ergates to Gollywood
14 Oct 15#4
I thought chromebooks came with 100GB of storage?
Nexusfifth to Gollywood
14 Oct 15#23
What do you mean by something similar? It matters very much what you buy and I find it very hard to believe this machine comes with only 1GB space.
Besides that it has an SD card slot for expansion if you need it.
leelukehope
14 Oct 15#17
More than £200 for a Chromebook...
Nexusfifth to leelukehope
14 Oct 151#21
Not just a chromebook, the best (reasonably priced) chromebook,
I would say it mops the floor with any tablet you might throw at it and tablets often cost more than this. I would say that for what it does it easily beats any windows laptop in the same price range and if I had to choose between a 300£ wi down laptop and the I would choose this every time
Also most of my friends who got these machines have somehow within 6 months turned to using the chromebook 90% of the time and are very vocal as of how great they are. I have never heard someone saying how great a 300£ windows laptop is...
Besides you can easily install Linux on it (and much harder windows).
Simply said show me anything under 300£ with remotely the same specs running Windows?
(I mean a well reviewed 1080p ips screen, ssd, fanless and <1.5kg in weight?)
The screen is really nice. For her it has been really good - quick boot up, no hassles with updates, a long battery life. It isn't powerful, but it is perfectly quick enough for the stuff that she wants to do with it (WWW browsing, homework, facebook, Youtube etc). One downside is that you can't just plug in a USB printer - but you can access printers using Google's cloudprint.
Eez1
14 Oct 15#18
im waiting for the newer model aswell
but was really tempted by this
xride09
14 Oct 15#13
If i order the new model from Amazon US, it works out to £281.06 including shipping and import fees
Nexusfifth to xride09
14 Oct 15#16
Most likely the UK price will be 269£, they didn't increase the price in US compared to the old one, as far as I can tell this one didn't really drop much (to 300$ compared to 330$ it was before the new one came out) taken all that into account, I would say there is a good chance of there being a slightly better deal on this within 3-6 months but the question is whether to wait for it or not...
Nexusfifth
14 Oct 15#15
That is all well and fine but even if you take the tax in account 1:1 is not a fair dollar to pound conversion... And depending on the state in the US you can get it at advertised prices... Fact is, we do pay more...
xride09
14 Oct 15#11
Anyone know when or if the new 2015 model will come to the UK?
cushty1 to xride09
14 Oct 15#14
See my earlier post (#7) Toshiba UK told me yesterday that 'they had no plans' to launch the new model in the UK....then today "We may be releasing a new Chromebook in the 1st quarter of 2016. Keep an eye on: http://t.co/wRkEWbXIbb for news". So its anyone's guess...
Out of interest I've just popped in to my local Staples to see if any of the current Toshiba Chromebook models were in stock. The assistant had a look , told me that there weren't any .....but he could order one in for me. Apparently (he said) this would be the best thing to do as he "could install anti-virus and MS Office on it for me at the time of purchase"......I resisted pointing out his mistakes!! Clearly some staff training required on Chromebooks!
PaddyZee
14 Oct 15#12
US prices are typically advertised pre-tax, whereas we have it built into the price advertised to include VAT which usually explains much of difference when people rant about exchange rates.
Bomster
14 Oct 151#10
FYI there is a newer model that has just been released, not yet available in the UK.
GREAT SPEC, right size screen, etc but really need windows
100Gb of online storage .. the first hit is always free..
Nexusfifth
14 Oct 151#8
As far as I can tell, the new one is faster but has a fan so produces some noise compared to this one which is fanless.
Other difference is that the new one has a backlit keyboard which is allegedly very very good.
I do hate the fact we are almost always 3-6 months behind US releases of non smartphone stuff and the fact that on average UK branch companies are awful for CS compared to the US ones, also somehow a 400$ dell chromebook 13 costs 400£ in UK, some exchange rate that is...
for example Motorola US is offering one time free broken screen replacement, upgrade to a new phone rather than a repair and are just plain sensible, compared to UK Motorola which are good damn awful...
Sorry about the rant...
cushty1
14 Oct 151#7
The power of HUKD?.... Update just now from Toshiba.... 'We may be releasing a new Chromebook in the 1st quarter of 2016. Keep an eye on: http://t.co/wRkEWbXIbb for news' .
cushty1
14 Oct 15#6
I checked with Toshiba UK yesterday. They currently have 'no plans' to launch the new revamped version in the UK..... So I just might push the button on this deal. Thanks for posting!
Siddas
14 Oct 15#5
Got JL to pricematch this two weeks ago. Got the refund the same day from JL that I submitted it. First time I had done a pricematch and will do it again as it was really easy. Love the Chromebook - wish I had gone down this road before. Mine has 10Gb left after downloading quite a few bits and bobs.
richardbrazell
14 Oct 15#3
This is a great chromebook, has replaced my Ipad as my favorite gadget. Best screen on a chromebook, other than the ridiculously priced Pixel.
Only issue I have with mine is when I pair up my Bluetooth headphones seems to be a slight delay/syncing issue when watching videos but that might be me/the headphones.
Recommended :smile:
Opening post
Intel Celeron Processor N2840,
4GB RAM,
16GB eMMc SSD
100GB Google Drive space for 2 years.
*stingebag: 7% quidco
8.08% TCB
Please note that this is the very well reviewed full HD 1080p version and not the cheaper (cca £200) HD version which got bad reviews, mostly for its screen. I believe at the moment this is the best way to get a decent screen on this form factor.
Please note that Chromebooks are not Windows laptops and while you can still do almost anything you can on windows they don't work in the same way so do some reading before you decide to buy.
Most people consider this the best Chromebook (apart from the £800 pixel).
I know it has been offered for £220 but this is the best sub £270 (its RRP) in a while so thought I will post if someone wants one.
JL price matched this no fuss.
Also might be worth considering that the new version has been released in the US (which is virtually the same with a couple of fixes and improvements (such as faster processor)) so these might drop in price for clearance soon.
Also Dell released its (£400) Chromebook 13 which at least on paper beats this Toshiba but it is also more expensive.
I want one to complement my workhorse laptop which is massive and heavy and I don't really need that power most of the time so a smaller much more portable device for writing/reading/browsing might be useful.
Hope it helps someone.
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But a Chromebook is not intended to play games and as such this chip is pretty decent.
Just a small correction, the N2840 is not the what you call a "defective" chip it was actually top of the line Atom based chip (I might be wrong on this but until m5 and m7 ones I haven't heard of better one which is atom based).
Also I wouldn't call the non-atom celeron's defective, it stings a bit when you hear what they are selling but they are pretty capable and it would be a greater shame and would increase prices overall to throw them away. I would rather compare it to digging out diamonds, you never know what you will get but depending on what you get the price varies.
At this scale it is simply impossible to get a perfect chip every time, (the picture I have in mind is billions of transistors of about 22nm size being arranged in a functional arrangement) and considering this it is frankly mind boggling that they can get a working chip at all, let alone a perfectly working one.
Mind you, a top of the line i7 also fails short of its utmost potential and has errors it is simply the fact there are less of them than in these chips (okay I believe they do have different designs) but I am not sure if the i75500U has a different basic hardware than say an i35010U.
http://ark.intel.com/products/82103/Intel-Celeron-Processor-N2840-1M-Cache-up-to-2_58-GHz
This is a dual core chip to start with...
You mixed up a couple of things, the process you are talking about is how they determine between i3 rebrand Celeron's (2905U is the one in the same series as this one) and they are basically i3's which didn't clock high enough while keeping the temperature down (or heated to much with hyperthreading), hence why you need fans for those chips. I would like to see you build transistors of size 22nm without having manufacturing faults...
This one is deliberately built to be weaker (it is a completely different architecture, so based on atom chips) which is intended to run cool and quiet (even fanless in this case) rather than giving you a super powerful chip.
And for your information an intel NUC with this very chip runs "the super complex" windows 10 without hiccup or any lag whatsoever. Can you game with it? No (although for example it runs skyrim just fine at low...).
And guess what when I am doing some kind of "work" I prefer using that quiet nuc than an i7 QM3610 and there is no noticeable difference in performance for 95% of the stuff I do with it...
There is nothing complex about windows btw, it is just written badly so uses too much resources as they built upon many things rather than started from scratch to write some things properly for the time it is used in... Windows is popular because it is simple and most people are used to it and because so many people use it there are by far the most applications available. Still people who know what they are doing often prefer Linux (or even Mac) because they can get more performance out of it.
Yeah Chromebook Celeron is okay, prefer my 4790k when at home though.
If you spend most of your time in Chrome then the 4GB 1080p Toshiba is great and quarter of the price of a MacBook air or similar. Browser speeds feels similar/faster than my XPS.
The only day to day change I made was switching from Skype to hangouts. I still go back to my XPS17 and desktop PC for games, heavy photo work (DXO, Lightroom, Photoshop) video editing (Resolve, Premiere).
For less demanding photos Pixlr (web based photo editor from Autodesk) works well on the Chromebook.
Web based Word, Excel are available via Microsoft One Drive and you have Google drive/docs.
Music/video can be played off an SD card and the Chromebook works with my Fiio E18 USB DAC/headphone amp.
Google give 2 years of 100GB Google Drive space for free with a Chromebook, at the end of the 2 years if you don't subscribe you can still read your files but can't add more files if you use more than the standard free allocation.
https://www.google.co.uk/chrome/devices/goodies.html
They are, but combined State and Local Sales Tax is under 10% http://taxfoundation.org/article/state-and-local-sales-tax-rates-2014 - they still pay considerably less for most products.
In my opinion a great 1080p screen means much more than i3 over Celeron...
Besides The point, I have setup windows 10 on a decent ssd with this same processor in a nuc unit (in total it cost about 120£) to be used as a desktop pc and it is perfectly snappy and fast...
Unless you have a specific purpose for a faster processor (such as gaming, video editing, etc) there is nothing wrong with a Celeron. The problem with Celeron machines is that they are mostly coupled with slow 500GB hard drives which are the actual culprit for those machines being slow...
I'm waiting for the new one (with a core-based celeron -ie actually very good, rather than the atom-based one here).. but this is great for someone who just uses facebook and the likes, which is a hell of a lot of people.
Mine boots faster than my PC, opens and runs Chrome just about as fast as my PC and also runs much quieter than my PC due to its fanless nature.
Another clueless plum casting their shortsighted, clueless knowledge across HUKD...
The full machine setup comparison rather than a fair processor to processor comparison, basically compare this machine to the recent Lenovo G50-70 (with haswell i3 4005u) deal for the same price which came with an i3 and a slow 1TB drive, I stand behind the claim that 6 months down the line this machine will be faster for most of the stuff a person buying such a machine will do.
I am sorry if it sounded wrong, but clearly I do agree that if you put an i3 in the same machine instead of N2840 it would be way faster. My whole argument was simply, for what you would use a chromebook N2840 is perfectly sufficient.
(These observations are based on a lenovo z50-70 I set up for a friend with Haswell i3 and 6 months down the line upgraded to an ssd because it slowed to a crawl, (back to snappy after ssd upgrade) and intel nuc with N2840...)
Also the N2840 in this Chromebook has the benefit of being fanless which might appeal to some people (including me).
But you can always use an SD card or a USB such as SanDisk Ultra fit, 128GB versions of both were sub 25£ via bespoke recently...
Besides that it has an SD card slot for expansion if you need it.
I would say it mops the floor with any tablet you might throw at it and tablets often cost more than this. I would say that for what it does it easily beats any windows laptop in the same price range and if I had to choose between a 300£ wi down laptop and the I would choose this every time
Also most of my friends who got these machines have somehow within 6 months turned to using the chromebook 90% of the time and are very vocal as of how great they are. I have never heard someone saying how great a 300£ windows laptop is...
Besides you can easily install Linux on it (and much harder windows).
Simply said show me anything under 300£ with remotely the same specs running Windows?
(I mean a well reviewed 1080p ips screen, ssd, fanless and <1.5kg in weight?)
The screen is really nice. For her it has been really good - quick boot up, no hassles with updates, a long battery life. It isn't powerful, but it is perfectly quick enough for the stuff that she wants to do with it (WWW browsing, homework, facebook, Youtube etc). One downside is that you can't just plug in a USB printer - but you can access printers using Google's cloudprint.
but was really tempted by this
Out of interest I've just popped in to my local Staples to see if any of the current Toshiba Chromebook models were in stock. The assistant had a look , told me that there weren't any .....but he could order one in for me. Apparently (he said) this would be the best thing to do as he "could install anti-virus and MS Office on it for me at the time of purchase"......I resisted pointing out his mistakes!! Clearly some staff training required on Chromebooks!
Model: CB35-C3300
More info: http://uk.engadget.com/2015/09/22/toshiba-new-chromebook-2/
100Gb of online storage .. the first hit is always free..
Other difference is that the new one has a backlit keyboard which is allegedly very very good.
I do hate the fact we are almost always 3-6 months behind US releases of non smartphone stuff and the fact that on average UK branch companies are awful for CS compared to the US ones, also somehow a 400$ dell chromebook 13 costs 400£ in UK, some exchange rate that is...
for example Motorola US is offering one time free broken screen replacement, upgrade to a new phone rather than a repair and are just plain sensible, compared to UK Motorola which are good damn awful...
Sorry about the rant...
Only issue I have with mine is when I pair up my Bluetooth headphones seems to be a slight delay/syncing issue when watching videos but that might be me/the headphones.
Recommended :smile: