That's not how the site works vote on the deal not your own preference and with the way 4K broadcasts are going you might as well wait for the next big thing to arrive. Way things are going 4K could end up being the Betamax of this generation :smiley:

Well if a TV show proved it then it must be true.

TV show proved curved TVs are just a gimmick so save your cash and get flat 4k TV instead.

​I think HD DVD was the betamax of this generation?

Nice price!

If this was 4k I would of gone into my overdraft for it. then again it probably be £200 more

not 4k. not a real deal for me. neither voting hot or cold

TV show proved curved TVs are just a gimmick so save your cash and get flat 4k TV instead.

Go for this one instead 4k and flat and price matched to 608 from crampton and Moore

http://m.johnlewis.com/mt/www.johnlewis.com/samsung-ue48ju6400-led-4k-ultra-hd-smart-tv-48-with-freeview-hd-and-built-in-wi-fi/p1929338?sku=234304447&kpid=234304447&s_kenid=12722f3b-3d6d-7089-ba27-000053c94772&s_kwcid=402x346578&tmad=c&tmcampid=73#page_loaded

Would this be a good monitor to play battlefield 4 on?

​I think HD DVD was the betamax of this generation?

Watched gadget show, showed curved is pretty pointless no wonder price has fallen from a year ago from being £1k+ for same size

I've gone for 4k 55 inch curved smart tv .1249 js6510 but price matched to 979 from crampon moore by JL personally love the curved tv even if no viewing benefit. I think Jl should live up to their slogan and monitor prices better rather than piggybacking everyone's best prices to get the sale but 5 years warranty a must on any high price tv

I followed his response just fine without the need for improved grammar :smiley:

Regardless, the deal is hot, I for one won't be going for it though, as others have said, waiting for proper 4k

4k is already available on youtube, netflix and amazon prime. bt have a uhd sports channel. sky will be next. you wait for the next big thing, you'll soon be left behind.

Agreed. 4K certainly isn't 3D/Betamax... those were new technologies that often struggle unless they immediately take off. 4K is just the natural progression from 1080p...

Not OLED, cold

I purchased this tv from Groupon. It is an excellent tv well worth £500

Correct. And as for the "gimmick" of curved screens - everythings a gimmick. Just whether it appeals or not. But 4k is already being priced out by the stupidity of not enough shows IN 4k, and you have to pay extra for those that are. And as the ordinary TV quality is more than good enough in 95% of TVs these days....

The five year guarantee is a bonus with john Lewis :smiley:

Hi..we get better deals on the boxin day!rite?pls suggest me guys

Thanks for your useful imput .Still jobsworths on this site.

​Sky's HD is still only 720p, you'll be waiting a while for then to give you 4k :confused:

it's a good deal because it's cheaper than most other shops and it's got JL guarantee. if you want 4k then dont buy it but really will it make much difference on a 48 inch tv

Is BT broadcasting in 4k or UHD?

TIA

Hotukdeals you've done it again. I have been debating upgrading my 7yo 32" 1080i Samsung lounge TV and you've pushed me over the edge.

Stop finding me deals on stuff I didn't know I wanted, good job I get my bonus this month :smile:

just subscribed to Netflix to try out some 4k viewing .... watch a quick 5 minute blast of some of the shows in 4k . Even on my 40" Samsung ue40ju6550 it blows everything else out of the water picture wise

​http://home.bt.com/tech-gadgets/ultra-hd-and-4k-television-explained-11363864705147

Thats what everyone said when I purchased my 3D tv

its a touch different. 3d was never going to be the normal way of watching tv. 4k, or uhd will be. like someone has already stated, its just the natural progression in picture quality.

Not curved but there is a 48" Samsung UHD (4K) at Argos for £599, personally I think the curved screens are a bit of a gimmick and can be awkward at wider viewing angles, though they do look nice on a larger screen.

Agreed. 4K also has the advantage of upscaling regular video content, so it's not like it's not like it's as exclusive as 3D was when it first came out. 4K will simply become the standard for picture quality, and as the manufacturing process comes down, they will become as widespread as full HD's.

Is Samsung better than Panasonic now? Everyone seems to be singing their praises.

Good deal especially with 5 year warranty

I've heard rumours samsung and lg might be using vestel panels in the smallest tvs but didn't find anything the last time i googled it.

4k will be replaced by 8k when they decide what to call it. they are already developing it in japan.

curved is a gimmick like 3d. it does look great on a massive screen, but only if you have the room large enough for it!

Quidco available?

Wow, killer deal.

Just signed up to ask a question as thinking of buying.

Someone mentioned vestal panels. What is a vestal panel and is that good or bad?

Just pay the extra 100 pound and get the UE48JU6400 which is 4k - also with John Lewis

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cold not 8k

Personally, I cannot tell the difference between 1080P & 4K from distances where I find a TV comfortable to watch. Sure, if I stand 4 or 5 feet away things look nicer (when there is no motion), but I wouldn't pay hundreds extra for it.

..and my eyesight is fine.

All the HD broadcasts are in 1080i

Can this do colour?

stonker of a bargain, hopefully all the people whining about the curve go back under their rock and allow proper bargain hunters to get these bought

I believe Sky HD broadcasts are in 1080i format.

Good deal this even if it isn't a 4k TV, I'm personally holding out and hoping my current 6 year old LCD will last until I can get a 50" OLED 4k TV for around £500 :b

​you generally have to pay extra for 1080p... so you not think HD is gonna catch on? oh wait..

I recently bought an LG 4k. for about 1k. nothing like rinsing a grand on a telly to come home and be forced to watch bulls eye on challenge TV from 1984 on my 4k TV :smile:
Daredevil & Narcos in 4k though

No thanks! My Panasonic plasma is still going strong. Heat added though, great reviews!

I don't think anyone can safely say that 4k is a gimmick. It's an obvious incremental upgrade from 1080p which has been standard for years now.

Having said that, if you honestly think that now is a good time to be buying a 4k TV you need your head looking at. Panels get cheaper when they're mass produced. They're mass produced when demand is high. Demand is high when the content is there to support the hardware. The content isn't there, and whatever sky, bt, Netflix etc are doing is very nice, but it doesn't mean all, or even a significant part of their programming will be in 4k. It also doesn't mean you'll be able to actually get those channels in 4k.

4k isn't relevant in 2015. It won't be relievant in 2016 either. Sure if you have the cash, it's a moot point. If you don't, you'd be better upgrading to a cheaper, better quality 1080p panel and waiting for the inevitable crash in prices in a few years time.

When shopping for a new TV last year in Curry’s, there was a Sony technical rep in the shop and I had a chat with him about 4K TV’s.
The shop ones have the picture sent from a HD under the display unit, they need a constant 36Mbit stream to show true 4K, Sony have had 4K media dating back to the second world war, so the recording technology has been around for a long time, when I spoke to him the PS4 was the only device capable (with new software) of playing 4K from a disc and all the internet media is a compressed format and not true 4K.
Sky can’t even transmit a true HD picture and even then they use Qam modulation, which means the full frame, is not updated continuously, hence while you see some fast moving objects breakup as they move across the screen, which you don’t get on Freeview HD.
So true 4K isn’t going to be transmitted any time soon, most people couldn’t tell from 8 feet away anyway between 4K and HD. The only way to get this would be to have fibre to the home and even then the amount of date needing to be sent would limit to the odd film.
Having said all that to see an uncompressed 4K picture close up really take things to a new level but don’t hold your breath for it being shown in general.
So curved screens and 4K are both gimmicks.

I've just had a cancellation email?

For those of us who care about the picture fidelity more than 4k or curved screens... Is this edge lit or backlit?

?!?! Outdated? How much 4k content is out there? The odd series on Netflix and BT doing a very occasional broadcast in 4k. That's about your lot. Next month the first of the 4k blu-ray players come out, albeit with a £2,000 price tag and severely limited content.

The experience of what happened when HD was released suggests that we're going to be waiting at least another couple of years before 4k becomes anywhere near normal. In that time TV technology will have moved along so fast that any 4k TV purchased now will be pitiful compared to buying one in a couple of years for the same money.

In summary, unless you're going to keep your TV for years, and plan to get 4k content immediately then buying a 4k TV really isn't the smart move. A cheap 1080p TV will be absolutely fine for quite some time yet, afterall, the HD footage fed to your TVs by the likes of BBC HD & Sky still isn't 1080p, it's 1080i.

Interesting that it'll support that. Sony have already confirmed that the PS4 won't be able to do 4k games. If it's true about the PS4 playing 4k blu-ray, then it'll be the cheapest 4k blu-ray player by some margin, as stand alone machines are going to cost a couple of grand when they're released in Japan next month.

Well as I said that was the information given to me but it’s possible Sony have seen an option to make more money by selling at a higher price.

Don't need technical experts to compare what their eyes saw or rather multiple public members along with the technical crap they did with the TVs.

The price now and the price just 6 months ago speaks for itself on all curved tvs.

Hi all.

I've previously looked at this TV and agree its a great TV at a great price. However, I opted for the 4K Flat model UE48JU6400 which I got price matched with JL for collection at £599 (see my post earlier this month) Your text here .

Like many, I was suspicious of both curved screens and 4K as the latest gimmicks. I did plenty of web research and talked with a couple of people in the industry - concluded that curved screen is not worth it, but that 4K definitely is worth it. Personally, I was looking for a screen that minimised glare as due to the shape of our lounge the TV has to be situated near a big window - not ideal. Curved screens are supposed to help in this, but the curved screens I looked at in stores actually did the opposite - e.g. the refection a store spotlight actually stretched across a bigger area (think of a fairground mirror effect).

However, the feedback re 4K is that even though broadcasts are minimal at the moment & services like BT are charging silly monthly subscriptions, they will become far more commonplace and much cheaper within the next 2-3 years - as is the case with all new technology eventually. The leap from HD to 4K is no way as much of a seismic shift as was SD to HD, but I decided that, as I'm buying a TV for the next 5 years+ I wanted to future-proof it as much as possible, whilst enjoying improved picture quality as 4K services expanded.

Having had the UE48JU6400 for a couple of weeks now, I'm confident I made the right choice. The 4K pictures are stunning and the full HD pictures are amazing too - I'm by nature a skeptic, but I would even say that the mystical/dubious "upscaling" makes a genuine difference. For a few months I owned a new LG 42 inch 4K TV (LG42UB820V) which upscaled diddly squat & I was always re-calibrating as it never got a great picture across all sources. Despite being entry level & a bigger screen, the Samsung UE48JU6400 is without doubt a class apart in all areas - picture quality, sound, OS, apps - better in every way. The only slight niggle is loss of contrast at very wide viewing angles, but none of us in the family sit at such an angle for it to be an issue, and such problems are fairly common in all entry level TVs too (inc the curved models I viewed in stores).

Happy deal hunting comrades!

Haven't the EU banned curved TVs yet?

​Does That F1 lass still present it?

nice review mate! :smiley:

ive just had the same TV as you had price matched and have been deciding whether to go for it, or the 6800 50 inch from Currys and whether the near 200 pound is worth spending on the 6800 or stick to my price match like you say above for the 6400 - your review had made me think that the 6400 is good enough and ill go for that from John Lewis :smiley:

nope, they've had some A grade clunge in the last few years, Polyanna Woodward and Rachel Riley etc., but now the female member (if you don't count Ortis) is Olympian Amy Williams... looks good in a bikini

Good deal - Especially with JL 5 year warranty. Unsure whether to get this sony instead:
http://www.johnlewis.com/sony-bravia-kdl48w705c-led-hd-1080p-smart-tv-48-with-freeview-hd-and-built-in-wi-fi/p1919503

You guys know any curved wall builders?

Anyone got the link for the wall bracket for this tv

who cares 4 k! nice tv

I agree, we have got a Panasonic plasma TV that is 8 years old and still got a really good picture. Why have they stopped making plasma TV's? We have an LED in the kitchen and if you look at it from the side the picture is very faint - you have to basically be viewing from exactly in front of it.

​Don't but any thing from Debenhams. there customer service is terrible. when my laptop broke they said I had to go back to Lenovo.

​They stopped making plasma because they were more expensive to produce and most people didn't understand that they had a better picture.

Some interesting points. I do this for a living, as such have first hand experience from many installs. As a rule, I advise based on what I clients need, so he're is my input (but still it's just my opinion)

Curved TV's exist because they can, this business is geared to churn sales, on the wall? I think they look ugly, around 30mm at the back and around 70mm (iirc) at the sides, they kinda look ok in corners. If you think curved TV's are for you, go for it, it's your money, personally I'd never buy one.

If clients need a new TV, I do now recommend 4k, but mostly because the average client will keep the TV for 4-5 years at least, and currently their are some good 4k deals, yes "content is king" there is content here now, but a lot more coming, but if your not likely change TV's you will be ready, provided you're willing to pay a premium, 4k is pay service for the foreseeable future.

If you think 4Ks a waste of money, great save your cash buy the best 1080P product you can afford, but only if you need a new set, if not, save even more cash and upgrade in a couple of years, when content and service costs are clearer. Personally I'd consider 4k when HDR is standard across many brands and clarity on content supporting HDR.

Don't get too wrapped infrastructure (bandwidth) right now, it will improve (ok it can be a broadband lottery in many parts)

Because I work in the industry I also so get invited to see what's going on in development, their's no doubt a massive surge in 4k from content providers coming, and to be blunt it's down to a belief that premium services will sell and make money. So it's not so much about content, but are you willing to pay for it. I have seen some truly stunning 4k conversions of classic material that will amaze you.

Oh OLED, LG's 65" models are impressive, however at 4k I'd prefer support for HDR before I'd drop £5,000 on the counter (flat version not curved of course)

As always it's your cash do as you see fit

bought thanks pal

Fat bloke down the pub told me exactly the same, so it must be true.

Yes I saw 9/11 on TV too so that has to be true yes?

£549 now :disappointed:

Just noticed this is £499 in Richer Sounds also, and they give a 6 year guarantee. The 4K version is £749. Might look good in my corner...

Thought about this for a week, pulled the trigger on ordering one from Richer Sounds with the 6 year guarantee.
The TV has 5 star reviews everywhere at £700, Richer Sounds cusstomer service is second to none based on my own previous experience. My current Samsung TV is from John Lewis their 5 year guarantee for TVs is also good, had to use it just the once, all sorted within a week.

Ok will do.
My thinking is for £500 this will do me for the next 6 years (length of warranty), so £83 a year.
We will then see where we are with 4k content or the next big thing, perhaps 4D with an implant in your head ;-)
I have just come back from Currys, they have the 4k version of this 48" Curved Samsung, (£750) plus a 'nano crystal' (got to laugh) 48" Curved Samsung (£1500). so I will try and compare the three.

Or Igloos

Lighthouse

4K isn't visible on TVs under 60" unless you are sitting with 3-4 feet; and there is next to nothing broadcast in it. Manufacturers push it because it's cheaper to make type of glass, and it's cheaper than faster motion updates, contrast etc.

It's a good deal. Richer sounds are doing it at the same price with a free 6 year warranty. Picked one up last week, more than happy.

I followed the settings in their set up video here:

https://www.avforums.com/review/samsung-ue48j6300-tv-review.11662

I purchased this TV but I believe it's faulty.

Was watching a Bluray yesterday and the screen went black periodically for 2 to 3 seconds. Happened about 6 times in total at random times.

549 its the actual price....

I bit the bullet and bought the 4K version. John Lewis are doing a bundle deal with the soundbar, essentially knocking an extra £300 off. The picture is stunning, just on Sky HD. It is also a thing of beauty. In a corner it looks superb, no nasty reflections for me. And, surprisingly, the TV sound is very good.