NOT made by Vestel, a decent 4K TV with good colours/contrast/blacks and one of the few that has FreeviewPlay (Freeview on demand) as only Panasonic TVs (680b and above) have FreeviewPlay.
£749 elsewhere without 6 year guarantee for RS VIP members.
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brooky to gadger007
17 Oct 155#7
It 'nearly' has more stuff on it? So that means it doesn't have more stuff on it? And it's 10" smaller. Not really comparative.
Latest comments (48)
Kendo100
25 Nov 15#48
Hoping to see this come down on Black Friday!
lance_m45
30 Oct 15#47
if only it had freesat built in
neel88984003
25 Oct 15#46
50inch is what I bought 680B JL £699
neel88984003
25 Oct 15#45
Bought this TV and when you update firmware and get the settings sorted it is a cracking TV! Id say better than my mates Cx700 as viewing angle far better. Dont be fooled by 200hz vs 800hz. Hardly any difference. 680B is the one you want!
craigyhay
21 Oct 15#44
thats great you think that.
gadger007
21 Oct 15#43
my mind is great thanks. And yes, it does..
gg1pl
20 Oct 15#42
When buying a 4K TV, it's important to check if it has HEVC and VP9 decoder built-in, if it doesn't then the TV won't be able to stream 4K content from Netflix, Amazon or Youtube without a separate decoder.
It would be like having a Red Bull F1 car capable of going fast but with an underpowered engine.
craigyhay
20 Oct 15#41
Yes im sure in your mind it does.
gadger007
20 Oct 15#40
mine has both.
craigyhay
19 Oct 15#39
from the perspective of some people a Bush or vestel made tv would be better value.
some people want build quality and picture quality not marketing features, and if u want picture quality its this tv as reviews prove out.
gadger007
18 Oct 15#38
for what I paid and for the price of this I would say mine is much better value for money, so there
danielshirvell
17 Oct 15#37
39ms
danielshirvell
17 Oct 15#36
Currys have got the 50cx700b for an extra 50 quid
danielshirvell
17 Oct 15#35
That's for the info. I would put myself in the casual gamer category. I'm not sure if the 5 ms would help me on cod online, I'm awful lol
danielshirvell
17 Oct 15#34
Thanks for the info. I would put my self in he casual gamer category so should be fine . And I don't think 5ms is gonna help me on cod online as I'm awful :-)
55 ms input lag should be low enough for most users but discerning gamers will likely prefer a slightly faster TV i.e under 50 ms for competitive gamers. Over 75 ms will bother regular gamers who are playing fast games, and over 100 ms will be noticeable by just about anyone. Over 125 ms makes it pretty much impossible to play fast-paced games.
Detailed reviews of TVs covering all aspects including input lag Your text here
danielshirvell
17 Oct 15#32
Not too fussy? What's the downside of picking this to for gaming ?
danielshirvell
17 Oct 15#29
Will gaming work ok with this TV?
mivanpy to danielshirvell
17 Oct 15#31
It will work yes. If your not too fussy.
mivanpy
17 Oct 15#30
Unless watching sport as that's why it's there. Fast moving action. Motion can be very useful. But anything else i agree, switch it off.
marc5701
17 Oct 15#28
AV Forums best buy, these guys calibrate their TV's and then give their review. Need to sit close to a 50 4k to see the difference.
montana78
17 Oct 15#5
I spoke to a chap in the panasonic store yesterday. He said panasonic stopped making their own panels as they're now working on oled. So they use lg and samsung panels these days. He said to look forward to their oled tvs coming soon.
ashmac to montana78
17 Oct 15#14
Yes they are and there about 8 grand also
DaveRay to montana78
17 Oct 15#27
Panasonic is also using LG panels in their new OLED sets. They're just doing the driver electronics. However, saying that, AVForums mentions that the picture quality is significantly improved. Review units aren't out just yet though and they're really expensive - 8K for the 65 inch:
Good deal but quite a slow panel at 200HZ which because it is 4K makes poor motion handling more visible relative to 1080p at ideal viewing distances.
Going to buy the 65cx700 model today (which gets slated for poor motion handling with an 800HZ panel) using the £300 trade in at Currys with 5 years warranty and cashback through work.
Good TV as long as people understand what they are getting, with the inevitable argument that money may well be better spent on a good 1080p set given lack of content ...
martyn_3000 to john184
17 Oct 152#26
Don't be taken in by the big faux refresh numbers. Most TV's have a native refresh rate of 60hz, anything quoted higher than that is created by the TV adding additional frames or by a blinking backlight. You are never getting a true 200hz refresh rate, let alone 800hz.
It's all for marketing really. Putting the intelligent frame creation on makes things look awful, a real soap opera effect. Leave these setting switched off for the best viewing.
gg1pl
17 Oct 15#25
If people want to spend as little as possible say £300 for a 40" or £500 for a 50" rebadged Vestel than that's ok if they know they are getting a low end set.
I welcome the day Vestel produces higher end TVs, any competition is good and push for cheaper or better from all manufacturers.
simont_space
17 Oct 151#24
Vestel are beginning to produce OLED,curved screens, 4K TV's. Did anyone buy a Samsung TV 20 yrs ago?
Making for others is hitting a price point, they will move upwards.
FAMILYGUY
17 Oct 15#23
Unfortunately Sony TV's with android os are crap. Great sets with the os being their achilles heel. They did a firmware update to improve performance on October 13, now its broken the chromecast function. Check out Sony uk support.
Also those wanting to invest in a new 4K set should seriously consider checking if the panel is a 10bit colour.
ollie87
17 Oct 152#22
Vestel is a Turkish home and professional appliances manufacturing company. Sometimes they offer to build cheaper versions for other manufacturers like Panasonic, which aren't as good.
From Wikipedia:
Related brands
AKAI For some countries, Vestel sets are branded AKAI.
Daewoo Some TV sets made by Vestel are marketed under the DAEWOO brand in some countries.
Ferguson LCD TV sets branded Ferguson and marketed by a Polish company, are made by Vestel.
Hitachi Vestel is rebranding some of its TV sets as HITACHI, in some countries.
Horizon Low cost brand, usually led TV's, marketed in Romania by NOD distribution , previous ASEsoft.
HYUNDAI. Hyundai TV Sets, both TFT and CRT TV sets were manufactured by Vestel, for some countries
JVC Some JVC TV sets, both TFT and CRT, were manufactured by Vestel. Also, today, Vestel sells in some countries, LCD TV sets branded JVC.
LINSAR Independent British company that was established in 2006 are made by Vestel
MEDION German brand of consumer electronics. Many MEDION TV sets were and are manufactured by Vestel. Also, Tevion, Microstar, Lifetec brands are found on Vestel TV sets.
Nordmende Some Vestel TV sets are marketed under Nordmende brand.
Orion Some TV sets made by Vestel are branded Orion Electric, for some countries. Orion TV sets with Vestel chassis, were usually belonging to ORION Hungary, a Hungarian electronics manufacturer.
Philips Some LED TV from PHILIPS ( like 32PFL3008 ) are made by Vestel, mainly entry level models.
Polaroid LCD TV sets from Polaroid, in Europe, are made by Vestel.
Selecline. Brand belonging to Auchan, France, used for tv sets and other electrical consumer products sold by Auchan.
Saba Some Vestel Sets are marketed under the name SABA.
SANYO Some TV sets made by Vestel were sold under the brand SANYO in some countries.
Qilive. Brand belonging to Auchan, France, used for tv sets and other electrical consumer products sold by Auchan.
Sharp Some entry level TV sets from Sharp are manufactured by Vestel.
Technika. Brand owned by Tesco. Some older models used Vestel chassis.
TELETECH. Low cost electronics brand, belonging to ALTEX Romania. TELETECH televisions are made by Vestel
Tesla A brand from Czechoslovakia. In countries that once formed Czechoslovakia, LCD TV sets made by Vestel were marketed under the name TESLA , but also ORAVA in some cases.
Toshiba Many sets named Toshiba are manufactured by Vestel , for European market.
Universum (electronics) German brand belonging to Quelle. Some Universum sets were manufactured by Vestel, both TFT and CRT.
Videoton A Hungarian electronics company. In Hungary, there were available Videoton LCD TV sets. There TV sets were made by Vestel, and usually sold in Hungary.
Watson Brand belonging to METRO GROUP. Many Watson TV sets were made by Vestel.
WESTWOOD. Low cost electronics brand belonging to DOMO Romania. WESTWOOD televisions are made by Vestel.
To be fair HTC started this way!
Noddydog
17 Oct 151#21
It's a type of virgin.
darrenpbond
17 Oct 15#4
hot. 100% not vestel
Melbury to darrenpbond
17 Oct 15#20
What is vestel?
gg1pl
17 Oct 15#19
Very true so I did put a word of warning that Sony are slow updating their software, good sets though their support is lacking at the moment, constant pushing back of Android updates. Not a bad price though if they can sort out their software issues and add HDR support
Same model but with wireless bundle and 5 year guarantee - £1398.99
Update releases are never guaranteed though so it's a bit like counting your chickens if your're basing a purchase based on a feature available via a software update. You could be in for a long wait.
gg1pl
17 Oct 15#16
Maybe not too long as HDR is coming via a network update to some Sony sets, just hope they are faster updating their other system issues
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The Vestrel/Turkey thing has put me off Panasonic - for good.
gg1pl to PhilK
17 Oct 151#9
This is not a low end model and it's not a Vestel.
It's not made in Turkey and you would not see a Vestel anywhere near the contrast, colours, black levels and overall picture quality of this TV.
ashmac to PhilK
17 Oct 15#15
i got the one of there best plasma's they ever made the st60 award winning TV few years back pictures is stunning. I'm only trading that in for a 4k old TV with hdr and I'm not paying more than 1500.im in for a long wait :disappointed:
PhilK
17 Oct 15#13
Not much going anywhere on the 4K area. One or two demonstrations on YouTube - a channel or so on TV where you have to PAY for it, and...thats it, really. 4K are quite literally, throttling their own appeal
Appreciate that, but to go so low in cost saving makes me think they'll do it in other ways too. I've put Panasonic into "not to be trusted" catagory - I'll be buying at least one TV shortly and wondering whether to wait until "Black Friday" and go for Samsung LG or Sony.
One I WON'T be considering is Panasonic due to the Vestrel/Made in Turkey slumming it.
gadger007
17 Oct 15#6
No USB recording... I must say my 40" samsung 4k TV has more stuff on it than this... Nearly.. And it only cost £340 from Prague.
brooky to gadger007
17 Oct 155#7
It 'nearly' has more stuff on it? So that means it doesn't have more stuff on it? And it's 10" smaller. Not really comparative.
hotfrost
16 Oct 15#2
Looks like a pretty good deal, thanks! Now just to convince the wife...
"In its own right, it's a good value set that flies the flag for 4K, offering a fine picture and good stack of features with it." '
What Hi-Fi? Sound & Vision magazine'. 5-star review.
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It would be like having a Red Bull F1 car capable of going fast but with an underpowered engine.
some people want build quality and picture quality not marketing features, and if u want picture quality its this tv as reviews prove out.
Your text here
55 ms input lag should be low enough for most users but discerning gamers will likely prefer a slightly faster TV i.e under 50 ms for competitive gamers. Over 75 ms will bother regular gamers who are playing fast games, and over 100 ms will be noticeable by just about anyone. Over 125 ms makes it pretty much impossible to play fast-paced games.
Detailed reviews of TVs covering all aspects including input lag
Your text here
https://www.avforums.com/review/panasonic-tx-65cz950-4k-uhd-oled-review.11860
Going to buy the 65cx700 model today (which gets slated for poor motion handling with an 800HZ panel) using the £300 trade in at Currys with 5 years warranty and cashback through work.
Good TV as long as people understand what they are getting, with the inevitable argument that money may well be better spent on a good 1080p set given lack of content ...
It's all for marketing really. Putting the intelligent frame creation on makes things look awful, a real soap opera effect. Leave these setting switched off for the best viewing.
I welcome the day Vestel produces higher end TVs, any competition is good and push for cheaper or better from all manufacturers.
Making for others is hitting a price point, they will move upwards.
Also those wanting to invest in a new 4K set should seriously consider checking if the panel is a 10bit colour.
From Wikipedia:
Related brands
AKAI For some countries, Vestel sets are branded AKAI.
Daewoo Some TV sets made by Vestel are marketed under the DAEWOO brand in some countries.
Ferguson LCD TV sets branded Ferguson and marketed by a Polish company, are made by Vestel.
Hitachi Vestel is rebranding some of its TV sets as HITACHI, in some countries.
Horizon Low cost brand, usually led TV's, marketed in Romania by NOD distribution , previous ASEsoft.
HYUNDAI. Hyundai TV Sets, both TFT and CRT TV sets were manufactured by Vestel, for some countries
JVC Some JVC TV sets, both TFT and CRT, were manufactured by Vestel. Also, today, Vestel sells in some countries, LCD TV sets branded JVC.
LINSAR Independent British company that was established in 2006 are made by Vestel
MEDION German brand of consumer electronics. Many MEDION TV sets were and are manufactured by Vestel. Also, Tevion, Microstar, Lifetec brands are found on Vestel TV sets.
Nordmende Some Vestel TV sets are marketed under Nordmende brand.
Orion Some TV sets made by Vestel are branded Orion Electric, for some countries. Orion TV sets with Vestel chassis, were usually belonging to ORION Hungary, a Hungarian electronics manufacturer.
Philips Some LED TV from PHILIPS ( like 32PFL3008 ) are made by Vestel, mainly entry level models.
Polaroid LCD TV sets from Polaroid, in Europe, are made by Vestel.
Selecline. Brand belonging to Auchan, France, used for tv sets and other electrical consumer products sold by Auchan.
Saba Some Vestel Sets are marketed under the name SABA.
SANYO Some TV sets made by Vestel were sold under the brand SANYO in some countries.
Qilive. Brand belonging to Auchan, France, used for tv sets and other electrical consumer products sold by Auchan.
Sharp Some entry level TV sets from Sharp are manufactured by Vestel.
Technika. Brand owned by Tesco. Some older models used Vestel chassis.
TELETECH. Low cost electronics brand, belonging to ALTEX Romania. TELETECH televisions are made by Vestel
Tesla A brand from Czechoslovakia. In countries that once formed Czechoslovakia, LCD TV sets made by Vestel were marketed under the name TESLA , but also ORAVA in some cases.
Toshiba Many sets named Toshiba are manufactured by Vestel , for European market.
Universum (electronics) German brand belonging to Quelle. Some Universum sets were manufactured by Vestel, both TFT and CRT.
Videoton A Hungarian electronics company. In Hungary, there were available Videoton LCD TV sets. There TV sets were made by Vestel, and usually sold in Hungary.
Watson Brand belonging to METRO GROUP. Many Watson TV sets were made by Vestel.
WESTWOOD. Low cost electronics brand belonging to DOMO Romania. WESTWOOD televisions are made by Vestel.
To be fair HTC started this way!
Same model but with wireless bundle and 5 year guarantee - £1398.99
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SONY BRAVIA KD55X8509C 55" TV & free HT-CT80 2.1 Sound Bar Bundle
- 5 year guarantee - £1249
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It's not made in Turkey and you would not see a Vestel anywhere near the contrast, colours, black levels and overall picture quality of this TV.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/10/16/no_4king_way_dolby_lands_its_hdr_on_mstar_socs/
http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/hdr-for-tvs-explained/
food for thought.
One I WON'T be considering is Panasonic due to the Vestrel/Made in Turkey slumming it.
Reviews for 40" version
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"In its own right, it's a good value set that flies the flag for 4K, offering a fine picture and good stack of features with it." '
What Hi-Fi? Sound & Vision magazine'. 5-star review.