No graphics card in the history of graphics cards has been "future proof".

If your only comment is "Don't buy this because it's not future proof" then that's pretty nonsensical.

Everyone who pays attention knows you only support AMD cards, no matter what the deal is.

I've checked before posting the deal.

I think the MSI 770 with stock cooler was posted (expired), the 780 non OC and the 780 Lightning. Now you can get the 780 OC version for 10 pound cheaper then last time. The 780Ti is not an amazing deal imo, the performance is little faster/on par with the GTX 970 for 10 pound cheaper. The 970 has more VRAM, needs less power, has DX 12 support, and comes with free games aswell. I would get the 970 instead of the 780Ti.

(Palit Jetstream 970 from Novatech with game and free delivery: £249 http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/nvidiageforcegraphicscards/nvidiagtx970series/ne5x970h16g2-2043j.html )

You can buy cheaper 970's with stock cooler.

I bought the 780 non OC and very happy with it. It's very quiet even under load and frame rate was smooth as butter in every game I tried. Now I can enable Nvidia DSR aswell in some games, which I could not do before with the GTX 960.

Would it be worth paying the £230 for the top range one of them or waiting to spend the £230 on a lower spec next gen card?

Async compute, right? It would be best to wait to see if Async compute makes a difference in games in the future as neither current AMD or NVIDIA GPU's support all DX12 feature levels and features, so neither are "future proofed" as you put it.

Nice comparing tool:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU14/815

In a market that is constantly changing nothing is "future proofed".

This.

I've read that new Nvidia gpu's won't be coming till at least Q4 next year.

The 780 under £200 is a good deal if you have a very weak gpu. If you have something to get you though till the next batch of cards that fully support DX12 then wait.

weren't both of these posted separately in the last couple of days?

ok, so OP has added the OC versions in each range, but is this really a different deal?

I've checked before posting the deal.

I think the MSI 770 with stock cooler was posted (expired), the 780 non OC and the 780 Lightning. Now you can get the 780 OC version for 10 pound cheaper then last time. The 780Ti is not an amazing deal imo, the performance is little faster/on par with the GTX 970 for 10 pound cheaper. The 970 has more VRAM, needs less power, has DX 12 support, and comes with free games aswell. I would get the 970 instead of the 780Ti.

(Palit Jetstream 970 from Novatech with game and free delivery: £249 http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/nvidiageforcegraphicscards/nvidiagtx970series/ne5x970h16g2-2043j.html )

You can buy cheaper 970's with stock cooler.

I bought the 780 non OC and very happy with it. It's very quiet even under load and frame rate was smooth as butter in every game I tried. Now I can enable Nvidia DSR aswell in some games, which I could not do before with the GTX 960.

All you mentioned supports DX12.

Hi all. Not often I post on here but thought this would be the perfect thread to ask a question.

My home pc runs as a media centre through my TV which I've just upgraded. I'm after a card not for gaming but able to run my pc in 4k. It's an LG 49" UHD. Which of these or other cards would suit me best please? Like I say, not for gaming but movies to run at 4k. Cheers.

​Hi Rev. I'm way out of touch with modern graphics cards...my current one is an AMD 6900 series.

The TV is HDMI 2.0 but not sure if the card would have to be or not? Can you explain or do you have a link explaining it more please?

You don't need HDMI 2.0 for UHD/4K but you need it for UHD/4K at 60Hz, if the GPU doesn't support HDMI 2.0 you'll be stuck with 30Hz which is poor for a PC.
NVIDIA's latest GPU's support HDMI 2.0 and I suggest getting one with it.

​Great advice Rev...cheers for that. I'll keep my eye out for a decent NVIDIA card.

Can this do 1080p 60fps

There is no question mark, so it's more a nonsensical statement :smiley:

Not bad, but as people have already stated and anyone who will be looking at these (esp the 780ti) should know, 970 and amd 390 are better by some margin for newer games for not much more money, and if your current GPU can last another 6-12months, wait. The pick of the bunch if you really need one is the 780

Oh there is no denying the 780ti was/is a beast. If i have one already, would i change it now with whats avaliable at a similar price point? not a chance, if i was in the market for a card i had to buy today at that kind of money give or take 20-30 quid would i buy a 780ti over a 970/390? no.

No graphics card in the history of graphics cards has been "future proof".

If your only comment is "Don't buy this because it's not future proof" then that's pretty nonsensical.

Everyone who pays attention knows you only support AMD cards, no matter what the deal is.

Personal taste, didn't like how they nerfed the last bit of vram on the 970 felt mega ripped off, lucky that scan gave in and let me refund.
But with how nvidia has been working with older cards and the massive complaints about not supporting them as well I'd agree you'd probably be better with the newer cards.
I just find the 970 yuck, for what they did.

Reports on nvidia driver comments and forums even suggest if in the 700 series going back to a 12 month old driver to gain.
It's not right that. .But tbh nothing these days suprised me with nvidia :/

This and their dodgy working practices with partnered titles *cough* witcher 3 hair works *cough*. Just because their newer cards had better tessellation engines they used it to nerf everyone, including their own customers with last gen cards, in the hope that they would buy their newer cards....very dodgy practices. Will be sticking with AMD thanks, well that and I got a deal on a freesync monitor from amazon :stuck_out_tongue:

A quick Google search confirms everything you just said. Including the "Everyone who pays attention knows you only support AMD cards, no matter what the deal is".

Well to put a finer point on it i really mean if i had to buy a card today at the £230-£260 price point, id buy an msi 390, but i think i can hold off for another 6-12months and see what Pascal/Zen brings

42 days until Black Friday, come on guys, we can do this.

Thanks for your input.

No problem.

I support open standards and non corrupt organizations.
The opposite to NVidia.

price on these is up and down, was just about to buy

MSI GTX780 Gaming OC 3GB: 169.99+9.99 delivery

but back up to 179.99 again

I agree, AMD support open standards, it's great. Ethics isn't going to keep them afloat though.

sadly true

So naive. Stick to a topic you might actually know something about kid. Coz GPUs ain't one of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqiBzmuqPNY

Graphics cards are like a car, if it gets you away from the traffic lights in 10 or 9 seconds to 60mph it matters not just aslong as it has a certain level of performance, then other factors are more important; like the sat nav.

Nvidia has always been about bringing the best technology to the table, even if that means fighting dirty. They went to every games company and said look you can use any of the 30 effects in the direct x 1.0 as long as you only use the 8 we support. We have the most beastly card you see that now trust us. Two years later 60 clone companies were out of business leaving only Nvidia.

Its through the support that Nvidia gets for being no.1 that keeps it there not because the designers come up with better chips. Take a look at bit-mining, AMD rules Nvidia cards were not designed to be as flexible, its like Nvidia is a console or APIC and AMD is the real general purpose chip more akin to a CPU.

Its true Nvidia has a history of bankrupting other manufacturers so I feel absolutely vindicated in only buying ATI/AMD since radeon 8500le.

If AMD can't survive because of the psychopathy of its competitors we all lose its basic ecomomics.

I did betray AMD when I went from Opteron 146 to Q9550 ( I believe I had a cheap dual core intel interim chip inbetween), because of the hype of intel being best for gaming.

So, is it fair to say your opinion on deals, future, performance, and anything that isn't related to their open standards and corruption should be viewed as biased?

I think you've just admitted you are anti-NVIDIA. Does that make you an AMD fanboy or an NVIDIA hater?

Either way, you are continuously providing biased commentary on NVIDIA products.

Feel free to hate NVIDIA, but everyone now knows you are biased against them. No question about it.

Did I ever say anything different kid?

Damn. You guys getting way too deep about this stuff. Like this card and think it meets your requirements... Buy one. Don't think it's quite for you? Pass on it. Whats next you will be refusing to have sex with your wife because the condom isn't fair trade?