I know of one farmer that's so poor, he's thinking of selling one of his Range Rovers!
Besford to SunTzu
19 Oct 153#24
You are assuming wholesale and retail prices are directly linked. Supermarket can charge what they wish, regardless of what they've paid (eg make it a loss leader).
The issue is that it's a global market and too much milk is being produced globally. I didn't spot anyone saying 'poor oil companies' when the price of fuel dropped!
snowflake75 to SunTzu
19 Oct 15#57
doesnt the milk come from the cows
eset12345 to SunTzu
19 Oct 15#78
yes poor farmers with their tens of thousands in subsidies, how will they ever survive.
jcvanshazam to SunTzu
20 Oct 15#80
**** the farmers, it's the cows that are deserving of our pity.
ian18 to SunTzu
20 Oct 15#100
never yet seen a poor farmer!
bilbob
19 Oct 152#14
And that bottle actually costs less than the milk linked here, so it's not hand-in-hand that this is screwing the farmers...
P_K
19 Oct 1512#15
wow those poor farmers will be pleased ;-)
btw: has anyone ever met a poor farmer, nah didn't think so
johndavidtanner to P_K
19 Oct 15#46
Yes, quite a lot actually. Sadly your response is rather typical of a townie without a clue.
Gamer_U to P_K
20 Oct 15#87
It's possible if you want. There's loads around Europe who just don't make much money anymore since the fruit and vegetables lost their value.
Good thing about some of them is that they're retired so they have an income.
Cheap_n_Nicety
19 Oct 15#16
This is definitely screwing farmers. The Morrisons bottle is 28p per pint compared to 25p and will have pretty much the same fixed costs but for four times as much milk.
bilbob
19 Oct 15#18
No, it's not.
Go and read the advert for the Morrison's milk again. Carefully.
Oops... My error. Got my pints and Litres mixed...:{:confused:
EveshamLad
19 Oct 152#25
It's 49p at Waitrose, but the big 4 sell it at 45p. It's only 44p at Aldi (and probably Lidl)
But yes, 25p a pint a a really good price. Nice find. Heat added :smiley:
nn1964
19 Oct 15#26
the farmers will be protesting in Iceland next
sashahook
19 Oct 153#27
What a price for the life of a calf!!
joanne10
19 Oct 15#28
4 pints at asda for 89p and 25p cashback on shopitize :smiley:
joanne10
19 Oct 151#29
One of my friends is a farmer and hes just bought 2 more houses cash and another wind turbine. He always saying he's no money. Every farmers different I guess :smiley:
Iamthebargainhunter008
19 Oct 15#30
This cheapest is Farmfoods. If you use their vouchers you can milk as low as nearly 19 pence a pint.
EveshamLad to Iamthebargainhunter008
19 Oct 15#32
Where can I find this voucher you speak of that would allow me to buy a pint of milk at farmfoods for just 19p?
How can it be nearly 19p? It's either 19p or it's not 19p.
18p is nearly 19p, but then if it were 18p, surely you would have said it was 18p rather than nearly 19p.
It doesn't make sense ... and I'm with Judge Judy on things that don't make sense.
aau1
19 Oct 15#31
lf you buy in Asda for 89p and your shopping compares against Morrisons who also have it for 89p you get it for 89p less 10% less 25p from Shopitize = 4 pints for 55.1p
muddassarsardar
19 Oct 152#33
i would guess the 10 percent off vouchers over 25 pounds so minus 10 percent off there standard Price and it Maybe 18.6p etc that's probably the reason for the nearly for the smart Alex types asking about why nearly and then not knowing we don't have deicmal currency these days so he can say nearly if he likes
muddassarsardar
19 Oct 15#34
all this nonsense about paying less to farmers for the milk is Just that the companies who buy the milk for say 40p a litre can sell it for 30p and still make profit they are making the rest of us dump and the farmers should speak out about this.You maybe thinking how can they still make profit its quite simply ripping us off and tricking us as the milk when coming from the Farm is around 15 to 20 percent fat content and by the time it gets to the supermarket its its between 0.2 and 3.9 percent fat so they keep the rest of the profits from all the cream butter and cheese they make and then the stupid reporters etc say the people are wanting milk cheaper and that's why the farmers arent being payed good Price for it cream at the moment is around 3 pounds a litre so why not pay the profits from that to the farmers instead of trying to link Price of milk to watered down milk they sell us in what they essentially are doing
minicale
19 Oct 15#35
In before angry farmer mob attack
d84rk_knight
19 Oct 15#36
Even better!
GO_Ann
19 Oct 15#38
I think you will find that the 89p milk is actually 2 litres which is equivalent to just over 3.5 pints. Still good value though.
alexander198021
19 Oct 153#39
doesnt say its cows milk...dont forget the horse meat scandal! ...do rats produce milk :/
Dragon32
19 Oct 151#40
I know it's cheap, but I've heard Iceland milk rats and not cows (is this true)?
......only joking - Hot. :wink:
lianne21
19 Oct 15#41
I love it in tea, wish it had less calories so I could have it in every cup .
aau1
19 Oct 15#42
I think YOU'LL find that it's 2.27litres .... or 4 pints
djames108
19 Oct 15#43
its 4 pint which is 2.27 litres in asda, aldi. both are 89p. :smiley:
the farmfoods stuff they sell 2 for £1.80 or whatever it is now is 2 litres which I'm guessing they assume no one will notice :smiley:
GO_Ann
19 Oct 15#44
I stand corrected. Last time I bought 89p milk from them it was a branded one which was 2 Litres exactly. No need to get all shouty about it though!
muddassarsardar
19 Oct 15#45
yes was about to say The same thing
Kingstuart
19 Oct 153#47
There are a few farmers that are well off and as in life quite a few that are skint...the point is if you supply what you make to a near monopoly and they push the price down too far for too long...you go out of business....now that's life in most cases and it would be for me...however then you ask what happens next...the farm becomes an overgrown mess or someone puts a few horses on it and lives there...maybe your ok with that....next you start buying your milk which is imported as too few people farmers are making milk in the uk....then after a period of time the imported milk goes up and everyone complains...then the government asks how did this happen...by this time the skills and land is gone or being used for other purposes...the government subsidies the price of milk and it costs you and I....everything in life comes back to paying a reasonable price for a product....its not quite as simple as it first seems...life isn't!
If Iceland are paying a fair price and doing a promotion then great on them...if not shame on them.
Sorry long reply but if you buy an extra pint and drink it everyone will be the better for it!
Likely2
19 Oct 15#48
And a rather rude typical response from someone who 'ass'umes' they are a townie, LOL a 'townie' ffs grow up.....no poor farmers around here....
Kingstuart
19 Oct 15#49
I know no rich person thinking of buying a farm, to become a farmer....rather that when the opportunity arises they build something on it.
Be sensible and drink an extra pint of milk a day, we'll all be better for it.
pantaiema
19 Oct 15#50
89p for 4 pints in Iceland, ASDA, Lidl on regular Price. So it is available all the time ....
Work out 22p per pints
steviet03
19 Oct 154#51
Every time you buy supermarket milk a farmer will die!!
cburns
19 Oct 15#52
Your Watching Capitalist Market Forces in action......It's will be Survival of the leanest :wink:
kamaziks
19 Oct 152#53
I am wondering how much real milk contains this liquid for 25p?
xela333
19 Oct 15#54
What??
You cannot compare oil to milk.
thecresta
19 Oct 15#55
Nothing wrong with dog's milk. Full of goodness, full of vitamins, full of marrowbone jelly. Lasts longer than any other type of milk, dog's milk.
thecresta
19 Oct 151#56
True. It's considerably cheaper, and will do irreparable damage to your engine.
gbharatkumar
19 Oct 15#58
They used to do it for £0.89 for 4 pints now they increased the price
thecresta
19 Oct 15#59
I hope that was a rhetorical question.
bobmorley
19 Oct 15#60
The farmers are going to be annoyed at the free market again
amour3k
19 Oct 15#62
Thats at Icelands too right?, or .....
amour3k
19 Oct 15#63
Amen to that!, that's cos' its 'Triple-Filtered' or something? (& its 'cost' reflects such?!), I buy this too sometimes when its on offer somewhere? (2 x 4 Pints for £2.50, 2 x 4 Pints for £2.50, etc?), at Sainsbury's, Tesco's, Iceland, etc?.
amour3k
19 Oct 15#64
True, that what I saw too? (not quite the same as that of OP's Deal?), its a shame really, as having more than /1-source' of some of these Deals is always kinda handy still?, so ..... ) lol
Youngy
19 Oct 151#65
You can get 4 pints for 75p if you use Shopitize
EveshamLad to Youngy
21 Oct 15#113
HUKD member Doug_ has advised that Shopitize does not work with Iceland.
zombrex
19 Oct 15#66
wonder if the antibiotics are free?
Besford
19 Oct 15#67
Both commodities subject to the supply and demand pressures of the global economy - very comparable indeed (but don't try to run your car on milk!:wink:).
norwichjase
19 Oct 15#68
Cold from me. We need to change this way of thinking that milk should be cheap, farmers are loosing a huge amount for their milk and if we can just pay xx more we'll keep them in business. Yes I know they have a lot of property, yes I know they possibly make money elsewhere (meat etc) but surely farmers shouldn't lose money for every pint they produce?!
Mumushka to norwichjase
19 Oct 151#70
But if the nations farmers are producing more milk than the nation wishes to consume, at the price the nations supermarkets wish to charge, then shouldn't some of the dairy farmers switch their farms to producing alternative produce, that the nation does want? (thus reducing the supply of milk and increasing the price, thus finding the proper equilibrium again...)
lexah to norwichjase
20 Oct 151#103
Its not about the farmers..... This is hukd where consumers find good deals. This is a good deal especially if your only buying 1 pint. You mark the deal cold if you dont thinknits a good price not if you dont agree with how much supermarkets pay farmers
vinniesmob
19 Oct 15#71
i get 4 pints at morrisons for 89p
**** the farmers - i want cheap milk
vinniesmob
19 Oct 15#72
hello mr farmer ! thats a nice shotgun - oh ok yes i will pay more money for milk ( will i **** ) " BANG "
themachman
19 Oct 151#73
cheers op
great for me as i live alone and dont drink much milk.are they this price all the time?
mfactor to themachman
20 Oct 151#93
Tip for you guys and gals who don't use much milk ....I started using long life milk in the days when I had no fridge/lived alone, and still use it now 20 years later, always around 50p a litre (49p last week) which is around 26/27p a pint, keeps for months in the cupboard and keeps longer than normal after opening....
Tastes different when you first try it but that soon wears off................:smiley:
lexah to themachman
20 Oct 151#101
Think its just an offer not 100% though.... But i do hope it is all the time as i buy the little ones for wrk and its a big save
onex
19 Oct 151#74
Why is it that guilt is always levied on the customer? If the supermarket wants to sell milk to us at a competitive price, why don't they ring-fence some of the ridiculous mark-up on other fresh produce to pay the farmers? That way, the only losers are...wait...the shareholders. Carry on.
Youngy to onex
20 Oct 15#106
So are you happy if your clothes are made in child sweatshops? We vote with our wallets.
Neobrown
19 Oct 15#75
You're a tw**, and everyone who liked your comment even more so.
Cookey
19 Oct 15#76
ah cmon..everyone knows theyre getting shafted but that was pretty funny to be fair
pantaiema
19 Oct 15#77
Yes. In addition ASDA, LIDL, ALDI.
It is available at regular price so it is available all the time at this price ....
johndavidtanner
19 Oct 15#79
What a ridiculous comment.
seaniboy
20 Oct 15#81
Cue the scenes of protesters pouring milk out down the iceland isles lol
Im dairy intolerant...its cold for me, cold as ice cold milk lol but I'll add heat anyway:)
ECUwise
20 Oct 152#82
A close friend of mine is a dairy farmer, he is running at a £200 a day loss because of the milk price at the moment. 17p a litre he gets. He needs to be at 25p to break even.
ukfix to ECUwise
20 Oct 151#83
I don't want to come across close minded, but surely if that's the case, assuming the £200 is every day of the week, that's a £5600 loss every four weeks, how can a farmer even consider carrying on producing it? Milk prices have been really low for years!
Gamer_U to ECUwise
20 Oct 15#89
I know of a farmer that has loads of quinces in Portugal but since the value per kilo is of like 8 cents it's not really worth it at all. Might as well just give to the homeless but even those could complain about how it makes their mouth soury.
It's pretty good even in its natural state just as long as you get used to it.
EveshamLad to ECUwise
20 Oct 151#109
Well I too was speaking to a local dairy farmer today, and he reckons they must have saw your farmer friend coming!
Iceland gets it's milk from Arla & Muller Wiseman, 2 of the big milk processors.
Asda does as well.
But some supermarkets will buy direct direct such as Tesco, M&S, Co-op & Waitrose (and I think Morrisons are just about to, if not already)
But you need to be a big producer for these supermarkets. So the farmer I was speaking to has to sell to the milk processors. He told me he gets about 24p a litre (the processor collects the milk, treats it, bottles it, distributes it, etc)
He said he would love to supply to the supermarkets direct as they would pay up to about 30p a litre, but he just isn't big enough for them to be interested.
He says it's tough at the moment (although I think he probably has used that line since before I was born) but says he isn't losing any money on his milk production. He said the day he couldn't make money producing milk, he would send his cattle for slaughter and move onto something he could farm for a profit.
I know some townies may find that difficult to stomach, but that is the reality of farming and business. And btw, you can't have a Big Mac or a spag bol without first having killed a cow!
Dodge62
20 Oct 153#84
If the farmer's getting 17p a litre for his milk, what difference does it make if we pay Waitrose or Iceland prices for it? Do Waitrose pay the farmer more? I suspect not.
A pint of full-fat milk is 300 calories. Drink an extra pint a day and that's 110,000 calories a year, which is roughly 12kg in fat. I don't think I'd be better for that.
Why is 4 pints for £1 in Iceland getting voted hot? They've been charging 89p for 4 pints for months and nobody cared, but they put the price up 12% and it's a hot deal?
lexah to ArthurDent1
20 Oct 152#102
Because its 25p for a pint bottle which alot of us buy.... It might work out the same for a big bottle but you cant buy a small one for 25p anywhere else as far as im aware thats why i posted it☺️
amour3k to ArthurDent1
20 Oct 151#112
Exactly!, thats kinda what I was thinking too ...
I do recall Iceland selling this at 89p for a while too?, hmmmmm, makes u think, huh?, ahhh well?.
Awaken
20 Oct 151#90
Cos no b**ger'll drink it!
miles136
20 Oct 15#91
so from this you can get
4feet of milk for 25p and 45p gets you 3grames, but on saturday its 97p but it used to be 45p a fathem, in sctoland the famers go to iceland for their hols, and cows eat dog milk but they still do not bark, and one cow bought a car or a house ?
have it got all the clifs?
BobIzYaUncle
20 Oct 15#92
what happend to supporting the bristish farmers! cold from me
themachman
20 Oct 15#94
Oh ive got 2 cartons of emergency long life milk in my nuclear bunker.love the taste of it sort of creamy sterilized milk :smiley: cheers for the tip though :wink:
rapid85
20 Oct 15#95
is it frozen?
danieldraper96
20 Oct 15#96
The narrative of low milk prices of 'poor farmers', gets on my nerves. How about that when there's greater supply than demand, prices come crashing down.
Demand will continue to decrease once people start realising that a cows milk is for calves and not humans, so they just get out the game now
ladyjulietuk
20 Oct 152#97
Everyone knows the more you buy generally the cheaper something gets yeah you get get 4 pints for 89p but what if you only want one pint? This is great to take to work for example for those of us who don't want to pay for the expensive machines. Hot from me!
Maggy_A
20 Oct 151#98
Farmers have screamed for years they were making no money....now when things really must be tight no one listens...it really is a classic case of *Crying Wolf*....
solidamber
20 Oct 15#99
I hate the taste of UHT milk, though I keep half a litre in the cupboard for emergency use if I run out of fresh
seb
20 Oct 15#104
what is milk?
the 64,000 bottles-of-gold-top question answered by bbc's the food programme.
another milky food programme - broadast a couple of days ago.
When was the last time you drank a simple glass of milk? Perhaps you view it more as an ingredient for cooking or to splash in your tea rather than a product of beauty with its own strengths and qualities? When the retailers slashed milk prices to lure in customers, treating it as a loss leader may have made the consumer also view it as a commodity and devalue it too. Is it simply the 'white stuff'?
Dairy UK figures show an 18% decline in the average consumption of milk and milk products over the last 20 years. In the last year while volumes of milk sold on the market have increased slightly the value has declined. This Summer saw many dairy farmers protesting at supermarket depots, taking cows into stores and buying up all the supplies on the shelves in some branches.
Meanwhile sales of many milk alternatives are rising despite costing more. Sheila Dillon explores how these milks are made and can be used, what they give us compared to cow's milk and why they've become so popular.
Dutch 'milk addict and sommelier' Bas de Groot invites her for a tasting of milks, along with public health nutritionist Dr Helen Crawley and Professor Peter Atkins who's written about the history of milk. They discuss what could make us value the product more highly, what makes a variety distinctive and if it's possible to taste the 'terroir' of your pinta.
Could easily drink a few pints a day , love the stuff, but now a odd treat (diabetic)...
alexander198021
20 Oct 15#111
think this forums been milked now... :/
ArthurDent1
21 Oct 15#114
It's been 89p for about 12 months. It just shows the importance of price-pointing; I suspect more people would have noticed what a bargain it was if they'd made it 99p, 89p is just an odd price.
Youngy
21 Oct 15#115
I didn't say with Iceland.
Get it from Tesco etc instead
jco83
21 Oct 15#116
4 PINTS IS NOW £1 INSTEAD OF 89P DX DX oh well good for the farmers :smirk:
onex
16 Nov 15#117
I can hold my original opinion *and* not want my clothes made in child sweatshops; they're not mutually exclusive. The sub-text to my comment was, wouldn't it be better if we paid farmers what the milk was worth and stay competitive by keeping the point-of-consumption price down, leveraging the shortfall with the existing mark-up on other fresh produce. Not sure what point you were trying to make.
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I know of one farmer that's so poor, he's thinking of selling one of his Range Rovers!
btw: has anyone ever met a poor farmer, nah didn't think so
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https://groceries.morrisons.com/webshop/product/Morrisons-Milk-For-Farmers-Semi-Skimmed-4-Pints/300078011
I know of one farmer that's so poor, he's thinking of selling one of his Range Rovers!
The issue is that it's a global market and too much milk is being produced globally. I didn't spot anyone saying 'poor oil companies' when the price of fuel dropped!
btw: has anyone ever met a poor farmer, nah didn't think so
Good thing about some of them is that they're retired so they have an income.
Go and read the advert for the Morrison's milk again. Carefully.
£1.12/4 = £0.28
£0.28 = 28p
28p>25p
But yes, 25p a pint a a really good price. Nice find. Heat added :smiley:
How can it be nearly 19p? It's either 19p or it's not 19p.
18p is nearly 19p, but then if it were 18p, surely you would have said it was 18p rather than nearly 19p.
It doesn't make sense ... and I'm with Judge Judy on things that don't make sense.
......only joking - Hot. :wink:
the farmfoods stuff they sell 2 for £1.80 or whatever it is now is 2 litres which I'm guessing they assume no one will notice :smiley:
If Iceland are paying a fair price and doing a promotion then great on them...if not shame on them.
Sorry long reply but if you buy an extra pint and drink it everyone will be the better for it!
Be sensible and drink an extra pint of milk a day, we'll all be better for it.
Work out 22p per pints
You cannot compare oil to milk.
**** the farmers - i want cheap milk
great for me as i live alone and dont drink much milk.are they this price all the time?
Tastes different when you first try it but that soon wears off................:smiley:
It is available at regular price so it is available all the time at this price ....
Im dairy intolerant...its cold for me, cold as ice cold milk lol but I'll add heat anyway:)
It's pretty good even in its natural state just as long as you get used to it.
Iceland gets it's milk from Arla & Muller Wiseman, 2 of the big milk processors.
Asda does as well.
But some supermarkets will buy direct direct such as Tesco, M&S, Co-op & Waitrose (and I think Morrisons are just about to, if not already)
But you need to be a big producer for these supermarkets. So the farmer I was speaking to has to sell to the milk processors. He told me he gets about 24p a litre (the processor collects the milk, treats it, bottles it, distributes it, etc)
He said he would love to supply to the supermarkets direct as they would pay up to about 30p a litre, but he just isn't big enough for them to be interested.
He says it's tough at the moment (although I think he probably has used that line since before I was born) but says he isn't losing any money on his milk production. He said the day he couldn't make money producing milk, he would send his cattle for slaughter and move onto something he could farm for a profit.
I know some townies may find that difficult to stomach, but that is the reality of farming and business. And btw, you can't have a Big Mac or a spag bol without first having killed a cow!
A pint of full-fat milk is 300 calories. Drink an extra pint a day and that's 110,000 calories a year, which is roughly 12kg in fat. I don't think I'd be better for that.
http://m.scotsman.com/lifestyle/saving-scotland-s-dying-traditional-dairy-industry-1-3859883#axzz3p3rAMZix
I do recall Iceland selling this at 89p for a while too?, hmmmmm, makes u think, huh?, ahhh well?.
4feet of milk for 25p and 45p gets you 3grames, but on saturday its 97p but it used to be 45p a fathem, in sctoland the famers go to iceland for their hols, and cows eat dog milk but they still do not bark, and one cow bought a car or a house ?
have it got all the clifs?
Demand will continue to decrease once people start realising that a cows milk is for calves and not humans, so they just get out the game now
the 64,000 bottles-of-gold-top question answered by bbc's the food programme.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00yhv32
When was the last time you drank a simple glass of milk? Perhaps you view it more as an ingredient for cooking or to splash in your tea rather than a product of beauty with its own strengths and qualities? When the retailers slashed milk prices to lure in customers, treating it as a loss leader may have made the consumer also view it as a commodity and devalue it too. Is it simply the 'white stuff'?
Dairy UK figures show an 18% decline in the average consumption of milk and milk products over the last 20 years. In the last year while volumes of milk sold on the market have increased slightly the value has declined. This Summer saw many dairy farmers protesting at supermarket depots, taking cows into stores and buying up all the supplies on the shelves in some branches.
Meanwhile sales of many milk alternatives are rising despite costing more. Sheila Dillon explores how these milks are made and can be used, what they give us compared to cow's milk and why they've become so popular.
Dutch 'milk addict and sommelier' Bas de Groot invites her for a tasting of milks, along with public health nutritionist Dr Helen Crawley and Professor Peter Atkins who's written about the history of milk. They discuss what could make us value the product more highly, what makes a variety distinctive and if it's possible to taste the 'terroir' of your pinta.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06j0wf5
Get it from Tesco etc instead