This product is a TFR and degreaser. For those unfamiliar TFR stands for ‘Traffic Film Remover’; it’s a highly concentrate solution which helps with removing tough and difficult dirt and grime on your vehicle. You would generally use this with a pressure washer, or you could mix this at a dilution rate of 15:1 and spray this on your vehicle. This should be enough to make around 80 litres, and if using a spray bottle 1-2 litres should be enough per wash.
It creates a sort of snow foam which you leave for a few minutes (don’t allow to dry), then wash it off. It should remove a lot of the stubborn dirt and grime from your car, and then you would normally wash it after as usual.
The problem is a lot of people wash their car using the single bucket method. The issue here is when you pass the sponge or mitt over the dirt and grime, you loosen the particles and then pass it over your vehicle which can often cause scratches. A TFR should help with this problem by removing a lot of the dirt and grime before you do a normal wash, reducing the chances of scratching your car. For £3.67 it’s a small investment which could help maintain the value of your car.
This is the link to the manufacturers own product page which briefly explains it and lists their price at £11.52 including VAT but excluding £6.95 delivery: http://www.espumadirect.co.uk/traffic-film-remover-vehicle-cleaning-detergent-tfr-vehicle-wash-detergent-car-wash-/espuma-tfr-traffic-film-remover-vehicle-detergent-car-wash
This product is also available on Amazon for the same price but is an add-on item which requires a minimum £20 spend: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Espuma-0115-05-Fleet-Clean-Degreaser/dp/B0058GW112/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8
Regards,
JP
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Jefft
18 Oct 153#10
Just the job for removing the nasty stuff from the exhaust of the VW in front.
Latest comments (33)
ph1l2261
5 Nov 15#33
Still not received mine :disappointed:
masai
1 Nov 15#32
Got mine yesterday via hermes.
I reckon they lost money but didn't want a load of negative feedback.
elbrownos
20 Oct 15#30
Got a message about my order today, apparently it was a pricing error but they will be honouring it. Is there an eBay rule that pricing errors have to be honoured?
Grumpy1 to elbrownos
27 Oct 15#31
I got the same message that said they were expecting delivery Friday but have heard nothing since?
dorito
19 Oct 15#29
OOS :disappointed:
hotman
18 Oct 15#28
Says mild alkaline on the label so I guess this is mildly corrosive.
I use Fenwicks products because they are advertised as non corrosive and paint safe etc.
5ilver
18 Oct 15#25
thanks OP, heat added
all gone from the seller, there are 3 available from another seller at linky
jp297 to 5ilver
18 Oct 15#27
Many thanks for the heads up. The link to the other seller is actually the same company, they seem to have a few names setup on eBay.
I can't see how they make a profit on this; maybe they're trying to get customers into their online eBay stores.
Thanks for the heat.
Regards,
JP
shaneoleeds
18 Oct 15#26
What I want to know is how are they sending this to be able to make a profit at all?
jp297
18 Oct 15#24
That's great to hear, really appreciate your time and input. Hopefully this will put others people's concerns at ease.
Regards,
JP
jp297
17 Oct 15#4
There are a few reviews on Amazon, and it's probably safe to say it's in a different league to the high end brands. I use the Autoglym trade bottles and if diluted correctly it should not strip any wax, which should be the same for any TFR. If you use something stronger like the Tar and Adhesive Remover it will strip any wax protection.
Regards,
JP
ianrobgill to jp297
18 Oct 15#20
Espuma do sell Glass Cleaners and they are very good I've got the crystal green and blue
Been using them since 2008 and all that I've tried has been very good.
Activo Hi-Foam TFR is very good and so is the Revolution acid free wheel cleaner. One stand out product is the RD50 tyre shine which is long lasting and very economical given the relatively high price
elbrownos
18 Oct 15#22
This is basically Muc-Off for 1/100th the cost
jp297
18 Oct 15#21
Sorry, I stand corrected. Completely missed that.
There doesn't seem to be a lot of people that use Espuma products apart from yourself. I'm guessing you're happy with their products?
Many thanks.
JP
scoobytawazara
18 Oct 15#18
need to correct title OP
jp297 to scoobytawazara
18 Oct 151#19
Hello and thanks for your comments.
The RRP is based on the manufactures RRP on their own website. Also, in regards to being a glass cleaner, I've bought from these people on eBay before and often they make errors in the description, but I've always received the correct product (i.e. bought an Autoglym titled product but in description only said Meguiars, but did receive the correct Autoglym product). I've looked at the Espuma website and they don't sell a stand alone glass cleaner, and also if you take a look at the product on Amazon they have the correct title listing there, so I believe this listing is for the correct product. Failing that, if they send the wrong product I can't see them paying the postage to return it as it would probably cost them more in the long run.
In regards to the other comments, everyone will have their own method and recommendations on cleaning a car. I personally like to spray the car with a diluted concentration of TFR with a pressurised hand pump, leave for a few minutes then use a pressure washer to wash off. I then wash the car normally with a combined shampoo and conditioner, and use the two bucket method to reduce the chances of scratching my car.
If you use the correct concentration of TFR this should have very little or no effect to your cars paintwork or wax. If you are using it to clean the wheels often a stronger proportion of TFR may be advisable. A TFR should aid with removing the stubborn dirt and grime, but for the more tough stuff like tar you may need something stronger. I'm very biased with what products I use on my car and tend to only use Autoglym products, so for removing Tar I would use the 'Intensive Tar Remover', or 'Tar and Adhesive Remover' (only available in 5 litres). However, using this will often strip any wax protection, so I generally only use it when I'm machine polishing and reapply wax every 6 months.
Hope this helps, and thanks everyone for the comments and votes.
Kind Regards,
JP
scoobytawazara
18 Oct 15#17
rrp 4.99 think this is glass cleaner so be not TFR and degreaser so this is misleading
djames108
18 Oct 15#16
I find a clay bar does the job for tar and stubborn grime.
also wd40 or similar is also good for tar removal :smiley:
shab606
18 Oct 15#15
is this harmful at all to paint?
Mikiex
18 Oct 15#14
Might get some... also need some Wax, need some that lasts a long time!
masai
18 Oct 15#13
Ive been using white spirit to get rid of tar spots on my white car. Will give this a go.
Any deals on wax?
Jefft
18 Oct 153#10
Just the job for removing the nasty stuff from the exhaust of the VW in front.
couragenh to Jefft
18 Oct 15#11
too soon, bruh
FAMILYGUY to Jefft
18 Oct 15#12
Volvo S60, Renault espace Jeep models and some Hyundai take that title. VW problems are mainly related to using s/w to cheat readings. Load of other manufacturers are also guilty of pumping out crap from diesels.
scaryprowler
18 Oct 15#9
TFR can do terrible things if left on paint for too long! Be careful
col11
18 Oct 15#8
pic is correct but listing says glass cleaner?
cococlown
17 Oct 15#7
Good to see... Share the knowledge..
cococlown
17 Oct 15#5
Very very very good price for the volume... A fellow member of Detailing Addicts on Facebook?
jp297 to cococlown
17 Oct 15#6
I am now! :-)
packard
17 Oct 15#3
No ph rating.. This could be worrying
kitchpoo
17 Oct 15#2
Cannot find any reviews which makes it hard to compare to other TFRs. Taken a punt but cannot see it matching my normal Citrus TFR. Maybe also making a point that TFR is quite abrasive over time and will strip wax layers on repeated use. A re-application of protection is advised on a regular basis.
titch04
17 Oct 15#1
thanks just ordered had this i my amazon basket for month waiting to buy as add on
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Opening post
It creates a sort of snow foam which you leave for a few minutes (don’t allow to dry), then wash it off. It should remove a lot of the stubborn dirt and grime from your car, and then you would normally wash it after as usual.
The problem is a lot of people wash their car using the single bucket method. The issue here is when you pass the sponge or mitt over the dirt and grime, you loosen the particles and then pass it over your vehicle which can often cause scratches. A TFR should help with this problem by removing a lot of the dirt and grime before you do a normal wash, reducing the chances of scratching your car. For £3.67 it’s a small investment which could help maintain the value of your car.
This is the link to the manufacturers own product page which briefly explains it and lists their price at £11.52 including VAT but excluding £6.95 delivery: http://www.espumadirect.co.uk/traffic-film-remover-vehicle-cleaning-detergent-tfr-vehicle-wash-detergent-car-wash-/espuma-tfr-traffic-film-remover-vehicle-detergent-car-wash
This product is also available on Amazon for the same price but is an add-on item which requires a minimum £20 spend: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Espuma-0115-05-Fleet-Clean-Degreaser/dp/B0058GW112/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8
Regards,
JP
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Latest comments (33)
I reckon they lost money but didn't want a load of negative feedback.
I use Fenwicks products because they are advertised as non corrosive and paint safe etc.
all gone from the seller, there are 3 available from another seller at linky
I can't see how they make a profit on this; maybe they're trying to get customers into their online eBay stores.
Thanks for the heat.
Regards,
JP
Regards,
JP
Regards,
JP
http://www.espumadirect.co.uk/espuma-glass-cleaner-liquid-cream-polish-
Activo Hi-Foam TFR is very good and so is the Revolution acid free wheel cleaner. One stand out product is the RD50 tyre shine which is long lasting and very economical given the relatively high price
There doesn't seem to be a lot of people that use Espuma products apart from yourself. I'm guessing you're happy with their products?
Many thanks.
JP
The RRP is based on the manufactures RRP on their own website. Also, in regards to being a glass cleaner, I've bought from these people on eBay before and often they make errors in the description, but I've always received the correct product (i.e. bought an Autoglym titled product but in description only said Meguiars, but did receive the correct Autoglym product). I've looked at the Espuma website and they don't sell a stand alone glass cleaner, and also if you take a look at the product on Amazon they have the correct title listing there, so I believe this listing is for the correct product. Failing that, if they send the wrong product I can't see them paying the postage to return it as it would probably cost them more in the long run.
In regards to the other comments, everyone will have their own method and recommendations on cleaning a car. I personally like to spray the car with a diluted concentration of TFR with a pressurised hand pump, leave for a few minutes then use a pressure washer to wash off. I then wash the car normally with a combined shampoo and conditioner, and use the two bucket method to reduce the chances of scratching my car.
If you use the correct concentration of TFR this should have very little or no effect to your cars paintwork or wax. If you are using it to clean the wheels often a stronger proportion of TFR may be advisable. A TFR should aid with removing the stubborn dirt and grime, but for the more tough stuff like tar you may need something stronger. I'm very biased with what products I use on my car and tend to only use Autoglym products, so for removing Tar I would use the 'Intensive Tar Remover', or 'Tar and Adhesive Remover' (only available in 5 litres). However, using this will often strip any wax protection, so I generally only use it when I'm machine polishing and reapply wax every 6 months.
Hope this helps, and thanks everyone for the comments and votes.
Kind Regards,
JP
also wd40 or similar is also good for tar removal :smiley:
Any deals on wax?