2560 x 1600

yes and it supports punch cards :smiley:

Cold. Not a Chinese android phone. /s

Some people prefer higher specification and some prefer higher quality. Some have a budget to stick to and some don't. Get the machine that does what you want, with the OS that you want and quality that you want and pay the appropriate price. No need to boast or show off or slate each other. Some people drive a Ford Fiesta and some drive a BMW. Neither cars are wrong or **** and I wouldn't go around slating drivers of either. They are different machines. Accept it people

If you could easily swap the SSD i would be all over it. Out

Bargain if you can live with 128Gb.
Some 3rd party SSD makers may release compatible replacements soon, but expect them to be relatively expensive.

2560 x 1600

How easy is the 16gb ram upgrade? Anyone know?

Good deal

It says you can in the description. It says it's extendable to 16gb

That's wrong if it is a 2015 model...

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7230282?start=0&tstart=0

Can get these too...

PNY 128GB StorEDGE Flash Memory Expansion Module for 13 inch MacBook Air/MacBook Pro with Retina Display/Macbook Pro https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00DC9U2Q8/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_SBciwbZAERGSE

I think they are faster and more reliable, but might be wrong about this...

Tempting price...

It is - who knows what they mean - that there is a 16GB version? Or that the CPU supports up to 16GB?

http://ark.intel.com/products/84985/Intel-Core-i5-5257U-Processor-3M-Cache-up-to-3_10-GHz

you are correct :-)

even with student discount this is still cheaper.

But i think i would pay the extra £859 from apple as trust them more than Zavvi

Does it have a parallel port for a printer?

Not a bad price, but note it could be a used customer return -(open box) which may affect the warranty.

That's not the right education discount, it's £859.20 when I go through NUS Extra.

Cold. Not a Chinese android phone. /s

​the ram is soldered to the board, you cannot upgrade it

That's not correct, the 2015 MacBooks use custom PCI-e SSD cards:
https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Mac/MacBook-Air-13-Inch-and-MacBook-Pro-Retina-13-Inch-Early-2015-SSD/IF188-108-3

There are no third party compatible SSDs for it at this time. Likewise, RAM is soldered to the motherboard.

What are the differences between a usa and a uk keyboard ?

Just to note, that price is for the Macbook AIR not the PRO. I'm still interested though... Ditto with wanting to know the difference between UK and USA keyboard? Also does it affect warranty? and if I wanted to get hold of applecare?

Guess you didn't read this http://www.hotukdeals.com/misc/simply-electronics-a-warning-391698?page=41#comments :S Hopefully you have no problems though :smiley:.





The main difference you'll notice is the enter key. It's a different shape. Also obviously no £ on it but, as long as the keyboard layout is set to UK on the software it'll work with the shift and 3 key. Because of the difference with the enter key the | key is in a different place as well.
However, most people say the US keyboard layout is better than UK and European layout. I have used a US keyboard layout and you get used to it easily then when using a UK one I was pressing enter in the wrong place (but again have got used to it).
This pic shows the differences :smiley:
http://static.paulboxley.com/images/2010/mac_keyboard_differences.jpg

Ah okay. Well it's still a standard connector (PCI-e), won't be only before there are 3rd Party ones that will work.

How unlike Apple....

@ symbol is in the wrong place too...do they put a # on Mac keyboards now?

no still alt and 3 button

I found that strange and you'd think with the dominance of Twitter, they'd have sorted it out by now.

It's Apple Arrogance in my opinion.

Yes true i dont mind as use twitter on my phone.

Always buy from Apple directly even if it's refurbished item, that's when Apple is liable to repair your item since is bound with SOGA agreement

I hAve a 2013/2014 13" macbook pro with 4gb ram and 128 ssd
The ram is soldered to the motherboard just like macbook airs and lenovo x1. And the ssd are Apple ones which are very expensive to upgrade. If you are thinking g of upgrading later you may aswell get one now with 16gb and bigger ssd.

Windows machines are very poor since buying a mac it just works no updates daily from crappy windows best laptop i have bought as it works well well worth 1k.

I have had dell,toshiba,etc all dont last and fail.

The apple mac pro is a very good quality build not like dell,toshiba etc you get what you pay for...

Its all up to the person but i was a anti apple person before...

You aren't comparing similar machines though if you're seeing a £500 difference, there's more to the specs than the CPU clock speed and amount of storage, watch the price gap close up when comparing an Apple laptop to an Asus Zenbook, Dell XPS, HP Spectre etc..

what else should i be looking at

He's right. you can get a PC World special for £300, but if you actually compare a high end windows machine spec for spec the price difference is negligible.

And how does it work carrying that desktop around with you?
As others have said something like dell xps, lenovo x1, surface pro is similar money. Plus how much is that worth after 3 years or so when you upgrade?

From where?
I am not a Mac fan but please do let me know where I can get a similar speced(CPU, RAM, storage, screen, size, weight, ect) laptop for £317.45 ??

Rubbish

This is ridiculous - the link is for a very old second-hand laptop with first generation i5 processor, HDD instead of SDD and a very poor display. Probably very heavy as well.

My point was that comparing a low end Dell/Toshiba/HP/Asus/Acer with the same speed CPU, amount of RAM and storage to a MacBook isn't really comparing like for like, to be a true comparison the machines your comparing to need to be of a similar grade, IE battery life, quality of materials and construction, which means looking at Zenbook, Ativ, XPS etc. and that the prices of those machines are much closer to that of a MacBook, not the £500 chasm you claim there to be.

In addition to a MacBook I've also got a Sony Vaio and an HP ProBook, the Sony is plastic and it shows, the ProBook is partly made from an alloy of some sort but these alloy parts are just covers, it's also double the thickness of my MacBook and has at best half the battery life when in use. If left for more than a week it needs charging to even turn on whereas the MacBook will go for weeks without needing a charge.

As with most things in life, there is more to things than just 'the numbers' whether it's engine capacity (cars), the amount of watts it outputs (stereo's) or the number of KG's of washing you stuff in it (washing machines) and all this is before you get started with levels of service and aftercare.

Yep that's the main thing, their lifespan is fantastic. I recently sold a 2008 MacBook for £300 that only cost myself £550 in 2009 (I bought it 2nd hand at the time).

What that means is they offer two options at the time of purchase both of which are soldered and neither are upgradeable.

Worthless after a few months thats the problem with them...

No, the @ symbol is in the same place on both US and UK keyboard Macbook layouts. It's in the "wrong" place if you're used to UK Windows keyboards but, you soon get used to it anyway, I have :smiley:

With regards to the # no, not on UK layouts but, that's probably only the second time I've done a hashtag this year I rarely use Twitter so not an issue for me and even if I did, it's not exactly that much harder to press alt along with the 3 key. I use it so little I'd forgot it existed :stuck_out_tongue:.

Anyway, to add to the discussion, I've owned various Windows laptops/computers - the best Windows device I've ever used, was the Surface Pro 2. So clearly things work better if made by the OS manufacturer as same can be said for stock Android/Google devices and why iPhones are by many (except Hukkers) popular. Same for Macbooks. I've had a Macbook probably about 3 months now and I absolutely love it. Can't believe all the hate I threw at them before. While brand new may be overpriced to some, as it stands now, I'd rather buy a brand new Macbook, than a brand new Surface Pro 4. Both are expensive but, I've found Mac OS works better. Only thing I miss from Windows is IrfanView but, now I know how to get around that, it's not a problem :smiley:.
Oh and in regards to prices......12 month old top of range Sony Vaio, £700 when new in 2014, struggle to get £250 for it. Same with Surface Pro 2, £600 odd pound, still 2 months warranty left, £250 despite being in perfect condition.
2010 Macbook Pro, sold one for £380 easily o.O - despite being a bit battered.

I've just seen a 20 year old Citroen for £300 on eBay, not sure I'll post it on all the car lease deals though as it's not really the same thing is it.

i fail to see your point

Remind me to not to give you to compare anything!
Is that your laptop?

Yes, I can see that value retention is a big differentiator - a bit like buying a Porsche I suppose...

As someone has already pointed out.. Pretty much everything is different. Lol for a start it's not even hd, never mind the far superior resolution (and superior screen) of retina. These antimac people are so dumb sometimes. Well worth the investment. I've had countless laptops and all slowed down and got rid of within two years (with a big fall in price) I picked up a two year old macbook pro 3 years ago water damaged. Fixed it up a bit and it's still faster than a newer windows i5. And more reliable. And sturdy. With a superior os (unless you want it for games). You get what you pay for.

Mine's been going since January 2008. I upgraded the Ram from 2 to 4gb when I got it, and that's it. I'm in the market for a new computer because I want the features of the newer OS's. Otherwise it's working fine. It's a Macbook BTW.

One thing you said didn't flow as well as the rest. Top of the range PC for £800?

Bought 5, keeping one and selling the rest. Oh wait. I'm poor.

That doesn't surprise me.

Top of the range means the very very top.

4K gaming requires a monitor or TV as well.
Up that budget :smile:

For balance, I think iOS is junk, would never have an iPhone (I always go for the top spec HTC) and although I bought an iPad Air 2 to try it, I found it dull and boring and sold it again quite quickly. However, Macs and OS X are epic. Due to my dislike of iPhones, I was pretty much an Apple hater for a number of years, but then I dipped my toe into OS X and I'm now fully hooked. I have a MacBook Pro Retina (same as this deal but 512gb - to be fair though, I don't use anywhere near it's storage capacity, so don't think a 128gb would be a major problem), I have a 27" slim iMac, a top spec Mac mini (which is my 'main' PC) and I have just bought, for no other reason than I couldn't resist, the latest MacBook 12" Retina in gold. The iMac is pretty much an ornament in my lounge, and the gold MacBook is a bit of a toy, but I honestly couldn't live without my MacBook Pro and Mac mini, they are both amazing. The other issue is, once you have used a MBP, EVERY Windows laptop just feels like plastic junk, regardless of it's specs.

Yes same here was a Windows user since 1994 and totally anti apple then I bought anMBP two years ago and the support and quality product has made it worth every penny. The price of a computer is more than just the purchase price.

And a return t base warranty too hahahaha

Sounds good are they that cheap i thought they were in the 1k + range..

im tempted to get one but dont think i would use it that's why i bought a ipad mini as its small i can take it anywhere.

800 quid for a laptop? wtf

You're absolutely right mate, they retail at £1,049. I found mine on eBay just a few weeks ago, it was on at £869, but for some reason I was offered a 15% (with a max of £100) voucher for using eBay/Paypal, so obviously the time was right to hit the button! It was a strange offer, I haven't found it mentioned anywhere, and it only showed up on my phone and tablet apps, not on my main 'PC'.

That was my point, when I get bored of it, I should get my money back, or maybe even a touch more...

Yes a good investment and yes like most of apple products your always get decent moneyback.

You can get one for £900 odd with a student discount which is not bad.

You will see my £100 discount in the top left corner, I still don't understand what it was about...

Whilst I'm at it, here's the rest of my Mac obsession :smiley: I got very good deals on all of them, online shopping isn't all about getting beans for 19p! Haha

Nice i had a few Windows machines before sold them all now but got next to nothing for them..

Yes that's right better deal with apple.

Two ways:
- buy a 16gb board and replace
- find a company with a surface solder machine to either remove the 8gb and solder 16gb or if there are surface mounts for 8gb more on the other side in which case just solder there. Need a pic of board.

128Gb = 16GB. Luckily this MacBook Pro has a 128GB SSD otherwise it wouldn't be as good a deal. :smiley:

just got my Asus n550jk core i7-4710hq, 12gb ddrl-12800s ram, nvidia geforce 850m 4gb vram 1tb 7200 rpm hard drive 1080p IPS display, DVD read write, £650, feeling good...

ddr3l

Some people prefer higher specification and some prefer higher quality. Some have a budget to stick to and some don't. Get the machine that does what you want, with the OS that you want and quality that you want and pay the appropriate price. No need to boast or show off or slate each other. Some people drive a Ford Fiesta and some drive a BMW. Neither cars are wrong or **** and I wouldn't go around slating drivers of either. They are different machines. Accept it people

I can't same deal on Apple website. Can you please provide link to it?

It's not a better deal for me - i'm not a student.

lol. okay, so impossible then.

Bits, bytes.
What about the 16gb above then? :wink:

Anyone know how I can get the student discount? I want to get a higher spec one

Kool.. I have a kid at school so how do I go about it?

Check your ebay account ... just got a 10% off voucher!

£735 = cracking deal!

It is their usual electronic 10% off voucher for selected customers.

Click on 'my ebay' and then scroll down to a 'vouchers' section, sits beween purchases and sold on my account.

I may be being thick but I can't for the life of me find a voucher section anywhere.

Its not on mine

How much is this from the education store?

if you can access the apple store via student portal (myunidays.com) you pick this up for £859 delivered with 3 years automatic inclusive apple care (but only 12 months phone support). For a little extra you get a load more.

now at £899 cheeky sods !

Price has shot up to £899 now

Yeah thats right i would order direct via apple dont give your money to them mugs

Silly really only one person fell for the price change...

On Monday zavvi put the price up to £999 and back down to £817 on the same day so it fluctuates a fair amount.