Someone should tweet this to Warwick Davis.

You wouldn't mount it on the dashboard though, would you? It should be well hidden.

this is about the normal price for these, look for TK103 on eBay or Amazon. eBay they are generally cheaper. I've used giffgaff in both mine for 2 years with no problems. If your master phone is also giffgaff you just need to top the tracker up by £10 every 90 days .

very handy device hope it *#!ks the thieves up.

Giff Gaff uses O2's network so its the same 'poor signal' OP!

You wouldn't mount it on the dashboard though, would you? It should be well hidden.

Not exactly easy to hide well on a bike tho is it, there's only a few places that it can go as it clearly isn't waterproof. The whole point of a tracking device is security and stealth, this fails on both levels.

I see your point, I should have mentioned it isn't a "Proper" bike, but it is 500CC



Mounted in a VERY hard to find point, not powered directly from the battery, waterproof location and it even (somehow) finds a signal indoors (Garaged).

It doesn't look that big to me... Mind you, I'd be VERY dubios of adding the fuel cut out to it... Some dodgy Chinese tech cutting the power while I'm mid corner...

No ta!

Think I'd rather have the device track them home anyway... more likely to get it back in one piece that way :smiley:
But heat for the device itself..

Any examples of the tracking software in action?

everyone knows GPS trackers are tiny, magnetic and come as standard in youre 00 kit.

I was looking at these type of trackers a few months ago, but could find GSM ones only which means your reliant on networks to still support GSM.
I would recommend finding one that supports at least 3G.

Sure, but 2G networks are here to stay (at least for the next few years), so I wouldn't worry too much about finding a 3G version especially as these devices are mostly SMS-based anyway.

Personally, I'd be very reticent of the fuel / ignition interference. Two reasons for this:
1) If it accidentally triggered, at best you'd be stranded, at worst you might be involved in an accident
2) If your vehicle is stolen and you cut the ignition, you're basically advertising that the vehicle is tracked and almost certainly the tracker will be disabled and you've lost your vehicle

Source: someone who has worked with tracking for a little while now :wink:

Someone should tweet this to Warwick Davis.

Any idea of the dimensions of the box? Can't immediately see it on the Amazon page.

Thanks

You should *not* attach this to the ignition switch, instead of the fuel pump.

If you switch off the ignition when driving, your car is likely to crash because you'll lose power steering and braking assist - Whether the person driving it has stolen it or not is irrelevant, your car will end up wrapped round a lamp post.

Some 'experts' here, the fuel and ignition cut outs only work below a certain speed, 12mph for my one.

If you cut the engine sharply (e.g. by isolating the ignition) you will very likely experience the following effects:

1) The power steering will almost certainly stop working (excluding some modern vehicles that have electric power steering which /may/ be maintained) and the steering will become very heavy and sluggish
2) The servo assistance for the braking will cease to function and substantially more force will be required to slow the vehicle
3) The car may decelerate sharply due to engine retardation (automatics will behave differently)

Obviously none of these will automatically cause an accident (unlike removing the ignition key, which would probably result in the steering lock being applied - this is a universally bad thing :smiley: ), but you have to assume that it might happen at the worst possible moment, when you are not expecting it. Even an experienced driver may be taken by surprise by this and might lose control of the vehicle, or fail to stop it quickly enough to avoid an accident (e.g. by applying insufficient braking force).

Please take care people and be sure that you know what you are doing if you intend to integrate these items into your vehicle's ignition or fuel circuits as you are putting a great deal of trust in a very cheap and probably non-type approved piece of kit!

Jesus, look at the amount of wires.
How can you possibly install this discretely?

it will not work if there is no signal for gsm .. Isnt there any model which sends it back to satellite or some other way other than gps

Warning: Do not take safety advice from anyone who is not an expert!

You are correct in not knowing much....

Modern cars brakes and steering are electronically assisted as it saves on weight and power used from the engine, cut the assistance and the end result is VERY heavy controls.

Yes, braking and sterring without servos is a pretty unpleasant experience and a good way to have an accident

Great idea, if I had a bike I'd buy one of these. :smiley:

all you need to have is a jammer for 20 quid and this baby is useless

The behaviour depends on the car, but there are plenty of cars out there which will have severely diminished brake capability when you kill the electrics. A good test of this (on older cars), is to pump your brake pedal when the car is off... after a few pumps, you'll notice that it starts to get harder. Eventually it'll top out, but it's a lot harder by this stage.
Suddenly changing the behaviour of the brakes and steering at high speed (joy riders aren't know for their careful driving) is usually enough to cause a crash.

Contrary to this, cutting the fuel pump will starve the engine slowly (like you were running out of petrol), gives the driver some warning before the engine cuts out, and they don't lose electrics.