Perfect for that special chavvy little **** in your life to terrorise the local roads and footpaths.

Cheap and rubbish yes, but no need to throw Chinese in there, they make a lot of what we buy.

Noise pollution on housing estates, recreation grounds and large back gardens in 5..4..3..2...1..WWWWWWWWAAAAAARRRRRR....

Why spend 130 quid when they can just Nick a bike, thrash, crash and burn it for free.
Of course not forgetting the odd Angel that terrorises the neighbourhood with no helmet on a stolen bike and the crashes into a bus or car. They were always kind, sharing and could do no wrong.

If you want to live in a world where people redefine sexism/racism just so they can victimise anyone who disagrees with their vision of the future, or if they wish to express their own form of sexism/racism towards all "cis white men", then good luck with that utopian dream. I think we differ in our views, where I would not define a decent person as someone who spends their time spewing random childish insults at strangers who don't agree with them.

LOL. 'Mob rule'. Perhaps you mean 'democracy'. I can understand why you're upset; nothing you do or say can ever bring back 'the old days' when you could (if you were a certain type of person) say and do whatever you liked, with impunity. I feel sorry for you, you belong in the Stone Age yet here you are spouting inane bluster, desperately trying to find ways to be offended just so that you can justify your antediluvian brain farts. A keyboard anti-SJW, yet you don't see the irony.

I am not an SJW btw, just a decent person. Something you obviously cannot even aspire to be.

Sorry if facts give you a headache, but please, carry on with the aimless impassioned insults. That's far more productive.

How about justice that is actual justice? Rather than some persons amoral justification for mob rule. Perhaps where someones reward/punishment is a reflection of their personal actions. Not related to how convenient a target they are to be made an example of in typical SJW witch hunts where the ends justify the means, in their desperate attempt to be relevant.
It's pretty obvious you are one of the angry SJW keyboard warriors which I am referring to so I am not holding out on any kind of productive or civil discussion on the matter. Classic pattern of when someone says something they don't like, just spew vitriol against the person without any attempt at forming a logical, rational counter argument.

"Oh I don't like bread, I must be a racist". Sort of drivel an ESN teen would spout at school and yet you actually go online and type stuff like this, as an adult?! Wow, just wow. Please tell us who 'some people' are? Be braver and state your actual agenda, instead of hiding behind juvenile, incoherent ramblings.

As I said you're a fool. One who spends his time quoting from Wikipedia. The very definition of an idiot and yet you still carry on as if it's something commendable. Asinine & pointless.

BTW Please elucidate on what form of 'Justice' YOU prefer, since you don't like 'Social Justice'.

Words change in meaning over time, as they get appropriated and warped for various reasons.
Such as this definition among the long list on that definition you linked to:
" a class or kind of people unified by shared interests, habits, or characteristics"
So, if I don't like people who like bread, I'm a racist? They're a group of people with a shared interest. Or people who like football. I don't like them, so I'm a racist. Or people that chew with their mouth open, I hate people with those habits. Again, I'm a racist. The definition has been wedged so wide and open it quite ltierally can apply to anyone and everyone, so you can't dislike anything, at all, without the potential threat of being labelled racist. And that's exactly how some people want it.

I'm fine with ad hominem attacks on fools. You're a fool.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/race[3]
"a group of individuals who share a common culture or history "

I think Chinese would fit under that description, and it's far from wikipedia
Wonder if they would have objected to the term bigotry?

Thank you for displaying your ignorance, cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias. Now please take yourself and your pal 'Thoughtless' to an appropriate UKIP, Britain First or Daily Mail FB page. There you can bask in the similar neanderthal & bilious ravings of fellow believers.

This if for 'Deals' of some sort. I presume you comprehend a little bit of English, at least?

Can you keep your retarded opinions off HUKD. There are many sites for your kind of reactionary BS which I'm sure you're more comfortable with, lots of like-minded KKK types there (though not sure why they'd join such an organization as of course 'racism doesn't exist').

Oh thank you for telling everyone what to think, I guess you must be one of the Master Race. You know, the one that never practises racism.

Strange name you've chosen, perhaps 'Thoughtless' or just 'Idiot' would've been much more appropriate.

If you like those wackey redefinitions. You'll love the attempts to reclassify "rape" as any expressed negative opinion about women (see youtube). Classifying a rape joke as "violence", and thus justified to be met with violence. The classification of all sex as rape. Or the "diversity" officer of Goldsmith University who tweets "#killallwhitemen", bans white men from her talks, then says it's impossible for her to be sexist/racist because she's a minority woman. You'd think these were jokes, but sadly they're not. The Amazing Atheist on youtube has a whole load of these black comedies.

The SJW movement is all about control and power so they can force their personal ideologies on everyone else. Control of language is their first step. This was known as far back as 1949 by George Orwell in his book 1984.

My interpretation (partly based on experiences of a buyer for a marketing company that produced custom items via a Chinese company) of the quality of mass produced Chinese products that are good/bad is the quality control. Say a UK company orders 1000 from a Chinese factory, when they arrive, they inspect and test and scrap/return 100 of them that don't meet the standards. When buying direct, you seem to get them all, without that QC pass.

Echoing some peoples other thoughts. I would stay away from this. I bought an A2B Hybrid electric bike. Designed in Germany, manufactured in far east. I figured if it was allowed to be imported/sold in the UK it would conform to all sorts of stringent standards. I was wrong. It was a death trap. There didn't seem to be any QC as there were faults (such as safety) from day one.

Cheap? Definitely
Rubbish? Your opinion

But if it's not Chinese, who does make it? Not the Japanese, surely?

And no insurance to pay for all the damage they cause...
If you valued you childs life you would purchase a known quality brand along with protective wear i.e. leathers,gloves and helmet,get them properly trained and fully insured.Keeping their riding skills and trick cycling on private land until they are of an eligable age and insured to drive on the roads.

Why would you include negative views of culture and nationality with racism? Why not prejudice? Since those things have literally nothing to do with race.
The racism card is being abused to silence anyone who has any individual opinions about ideas that contradict the SJW manifesto. Culture and religion are ideas. Racism is based on what people are born with, and the idea they are inherently inferior, no matter their actions. That's the difference. One is something the person has nothing to do with, the other they have made a personal choice. If you can't hold people accountable for the choices they make, then we might as well give up on the idea of a justice system.
"Don't like me beating women? That's my culture, you racist!"
"Don't like me murdering people for leaving their faith? That's my religion, you racist!"

The definition expressed in the Wikipedia entry is disputed. It is disputed, and always will be because there is no definition to this meaningless bully word. That's the point of it! If it ever does have a universally agreed definition people will be able to avoid falling into the traps laid by it.

Your definition is easily proved wrong as 'racism' has nothing to do with race! Take the case of Kaily Amess who attacked a woman of the same race born not 20 miles from where she was born, convicted of a 'race hate' crime on the grounds the victim had a Scottish accent ! It is mind bending how this can be shoehorned into the race agenda, but it was. Or take the case of Liam Edwards an animal rights activist who stuck stickers on halal meat which said it was cruel - which it is, prosecuted for racially aggravated criminal damage. Exactly which race is Islam ? I thought it was an ideology?

As I said before 'racism' is as real as witch craft was, and we should all ignore those who falsely cry it.

It's not even a question of disliking. If you espouse a view about a person based on nationality, race, culture, ethnicity or skin colour then it is racist. *All French women have hairy armpits (not that it should matter), Americans are stupid; Nigerians are scam artists; white men can't jump - or dance; you get my drift. Making judgements about millions of people based on the scantest of information/experience is prejudice and therefore not ideal. Of course, we're all socialised to prefer those people most like us so it's fair to say that everyone is a bit racist in the broadest sense of the word. And we have brains that want to discriminate in order to categorise - our language is developed around determining what things are and what things are not. That requires discrimination. Of course, when you begin to trust particularly negative or positive assessments of people based on their gender, race, colour, sexuality, etc and then apply those judgements to people you don't know - well then you have a problem.

*I do not hold any of these opinions, nor am I encouraging anyone else to nor giving any validity to them. Apologies if they cause any offence - they are meant for the purposes of demonstration only.

Anyone who dislikes any race, culture, nation, ethnicity, caste, or religion.... soooo, basically everyone?
When everyone is racist, no one is.

racism covers prejudice based on nationality too.

Where did you get that from? Because I can't see it anywhere on the Wikipedia page.

​from wikipedia: Some definitions of racism also include discriminatory behaviors and beliefs based on cultural, national, ethnic, caste, or religious stereotypes.

Yes Chinese is a nationality. It is not a race.

No it doesn't... that's prejudice. Some modern day SJW like to include anything they don't like (prejudice against nationality/culture/religion) in the definition so they can play that card to terrorise anyone who disagrees with them.

Anyone who is struggling to tell the difference can check your local dictionary or Wikipedia.

are Chinese a race? I thought Chinese was a nationality.

These are perfect for those , annoying morons who drive on the road with no license, no helmets, no leathers. Purposing endangering everyone around, upsetting every one. Voting Hot on Price and Product, I believe it should come with free bow and arrow for your neighbours to use on those annoying idiots who have no feeling for others!!!

Designed for Tw @'s who have bad parents!

Not an adult bike... Only a short ass malnourished one... If you buy this you're a chav... Full stop.

we have a local lad who drives his in our village every few days... Hope the **** falls off one day to be honest.

Thank god there are decent people. Always hate having racism thrown in.

Ideal for the local chav family more than likely with a name similar to Kyle, Conner, or Leighton to terrorise the neighbourhood.

Requires assembly by a qualified mechanic... Means I'm out.

Yay! I'm 5'10" and 10st 5lb, so just about OK. Take up cycling and you too can be light enough to ride one of these :smile:

you couldn't afford it

:sunglasses:

lol cheap junk, the people crying about chavs probably can't afford this though

A yank, dear. Not a Yank.

I was just making a rubbish joke about the misspelling... angle/degree etc.

I'll get my coat...

lol yes the chell specker didn't pick that one up

S'ok, I got the joke :-)

So is it Chinese or American. I'm sure one average yank would break it.

The sale of these should be banned! People buying them and then riding on land they don't own, or pavements, and getting very aggressive when anyone objects. Police aren't allowed to chase them, and when they kill themselves, as one did near me this last week, the family are all telling the press what a little angle he was !

Doesn't seem so from the newspaper reports, Political correctness won't let them do that, and he was (just about) an adult when he died riding it.

any better alternatives for this price range?

I hope the deceased youth's friends got the third degree from the police.

To be fair, new parts for these are all over flea bay for next to nothing. The first to break will be the pull start rope or mechanism, then the carb will leak petrol. I've had a few of these (second hand) Even though the bikes are tiny, I wouldn't put a younger kid on it - but they will happily pull a teen or adult. Make sure you check and tighten bolts every so often but very easy to work on :smiley:

Unbranded crap like this will be a nightmare to maintain with little resale value... good luck getting parts etc..

No, no, no.

The point about the 'Chinese' is that it's a Chinese brand and not one of the 'good' ones - one that'll probably have disappeared before the bike falls apart as you're riding towards a tree.

Despite their claim, this type of bike is made for young kids to get an idea of motorcycling.
If you're happy that it may well only last a few rides and don't feel like getting a second hand one for £50, sure, I suppose.

For most, there are much better choices out there.

(Amongst the various motorcycles I own, I have 4 pit bikes, though they're all setup in 'supermoto trim'. Although leant to a friend, also a minimoto, as can be seen in my avatar.)

Adults with a maximum weight of 65kg? that's most male adults then

Deigned for midgets

IE comes in bits

Is it not Chinese then?

With regards to any vehicle, the Chinese make utter rubbish. I guarantee the starter cord will fray and snap within two or three yanks

Why spend 130 quid when they can just Nick a bike, thrash, crash and burn it for free.
Of course not forgetting the odd Angel that terrorises the neighbourhood with no helmet on a stolen bike and the crashes into a bus or car. They were always kind, sharing and could do no wrong.

Noise pollution on housing estates, recreation grounds and large back gardens in 5..4..3..2...1..WWWWWWWWAAAAAARRRRRR....

Cheap Chinese rubbish

more chavy teens with broken arms... lovely

sarcasm.

Perfect for that special chavvy little **** in your life to terrorise the local roads and footpaths.

well the average weight of a male adult in the UK is just over 13st or 83kg

Do you charge it or does it use petrol

I must admit, I may be a couple of pounds over 10.24 stone! But not bad for our slimmer friends or older kids.

Looks very cheap breakable Chinese made too me. Not sure I'd let my son out on that.
Good deal for anyone who wants to risk it. I'll stick to Yamaha & Honda personally.